Critiquing Eddie Hall's Strongman Diet

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  • @mitchellhooperstrongman
    @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +13

    Get a program written by me!
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    • @lexolus1308
      @lexolus1308 5 місяців тому

      if im not wrong eddie trains 2-3 times a day(not every day, but we've seen his rutine), doing like 1 h of swiming around 2 h gym x2 times I dont think it would be crazy that he burns around 3k -4k extra calories counting his bodyweight making him burn more and exercise more exausting, id say he needs 6.5k to 7k to just maintain, even with that he still overeating for clickbait haha

    • @thereddog223
      @thereddog223 5 місяців тому

      Adding olive oil might help

  • @tylermulek
    @tylermulek 5 місяців тому +1214

    Great, now you're going to have to box him.

    • @alxonpc9388
      @alxonpc9388 5 місяців тому +156

      He needs to deadlift 502 and then he can box Eddie and Thor at the same time

    • @criscristofferson7381
      @criscristofferson7381 5 місяців тому +5

      😂

    • @violationnation2551
      @violationnation2551 5 місяців тому +15

      he was going to fight him mma anyway

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +96

      😂

    • @BrockGrimes
      @BrockGrimes 5 місяців тому +12

      @@mitchellhooperstrongman Makes me wonder how much I was eating while int he military. At my most I was having 3 meals, breakfast, lunch, dinner and eating 3 MRE's. Plus anything extra I could grab and go with. Mind you I was deployed to the desert and working my ass off. I know supposedly a typical MRE has 1,250 calories. but can be as high at 1,500. So 3,750 in MRE, and if each meal was 1,000 I was hitting 6-7k total maybe more. I couldn't imagine eating 12k everyday oof.

  • @GODOFHELLFIRE3
    @GODOFHELLFIRE3 5 місяців тому +325

    I'm glad such a major player in strongman is calling out the whole 'EPIC ten-BAZILLION-calorie full-day-of-eating' trend. As it happens, Eddie himself has gone on record saying he didn't actually eat this much *every single day*. He tried it for one day as a test during his time competing, then went to bed feeling extremely ill and decided never to do it ever again. Like with a lot of strongman content: it's all marketing.

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 5 місяців тому +11

      You know a lot of the "mukbangers" on UA-cam who would eat close to 10,000 calories per day on camera would also intentionally throw up off camera right after eating. Rarely are thing what they appear to be.

    • @danielbrown001
      @danielbrown001 5 місяців тому +2

      @@jd9119If they’re posting every single day, then I agree, they’re 100% purging if they’re not gaining weight quickly. But if they’re only posting once a week or so, it’s entirely possible they’re eating 10k+ calories in that sitting and keeping it down, while remaining active and maintaining a calorie deficit the other 6 days of the week to balance it out.

    • @eponaalbion
      @eponaalbion 5 місяців тому +2

      Actually Eddie did eat like this every day at his peak, youre thinking of the time he tried adding a litre of ice cream and full fat cream ;)

    • @GODOFHELLFIRE3
      @GODOFHELLFIRE3 5 місяців тому +1

      @@eponaalbion The infamous 'straw that broke the camel's back' - or in this case, 'the litre of ice-cream that broke the camel's stomach' lol

    • @markuschampos5750
      @markuschampos5750 4 місяці тому

      This is for children and teenagers that don't know much of anything yet, the people that thinks Eddie Hall is "cool".
      As soon as anyone learns a thing or two about training and eating it's easy to see thru Eddie Hall and his bullshit. It's all about clicks and views, it's not real.

  • @HarleyVassMusic
    @HarleyVassMusic 5 місяців тому +8

    Love seeing these kinds of videos, I don’t think I’ve ever seen another strongman focus so much on science and evidence based training, most people just seem to bully weights around and eat whatever they want. I’m never going to be a strongman but you’re helping me become the strongest man I can be, keep it up!

  • @alexhill-knight9540
    @alexhill-knight9540 5 місяців тому +41

    Really thrilled to have an eloquent and civilised bloke like Mitchell at the top of the sport. Just shows that it’s far better to take a more scientific and educated approach to becoming the world’s strongest man, rather than pointlessly eating far too much.

    • @gymrat1524
      @gymrat1524 5 місяців тому +2

      Certainly better than shitting out a good third of what you ate. But lets be honest, we've all been there and done a dirty bulk with 2-3 toilet times at least

  • @4EverAwesomness92
    @4EverAwesomness92 5 місяців тому +168

    most people do lie about it, just putting up high numbers to get the clicks. Remember the days where people video constantly where 10K calorie diet, then 13K calorie diet, then 20K calorie diet!
    but an actually 12K calorie diet is insane. it is hard for me to imagin how much food that is, A video does not do it justice

    • @iielysiumx5811
      @iielysiumx5811 5 місяців тому +25

      Yeah I’m surprised Eddie is not more famous for how much shit he talks, also how much he exaggerates and misleads to build into his brand and “mystique” as Mitch put it

    • @anyexpat
      @anyexpat 5 місяців тому +14

      @@iielysiumx5811 I watched him doing his 10k calories a day and worked them out at 8k. We all have google, it is easy to check. BTW he claimed to punch 8 times harder than a heavyweight boxer, as a boxing fan this put me of his vids for many months as I could not listen to him basically shitting on others ability in total ignorance. He threw a javelin and in that video his claimed distance was way longer than actual. Unless the pitch he was throwing on was a lot bigger than any other pitch in the country.

    • @jerppazz4525
      @jerppazz4525 5 місяців тому +4

      @@anyexpat the full body with a sprinting start haymakers are beyond stupid to compare with an actual punch, even for fun.

    • @him050
      @him050 5 місяців тому +8

      @@iielysiumx5811 yeah, I mean I clocked it as soon as he started going on about how he “only spent an hour and a half tops” with his family every week. Like how is that possible? He ate all of his meals at home, he had his own recovery equipment at home, he at maximum was out of the house no longer than any other person who works (ie 8-10 hours). And he didn’t train every single day. The only way he wouldn’t have seen his kids was if he chose to do all of the out the house stuff like the gym and physio after school hours instead of during the day. And if he did, that’s his own stupid decision. What was he doing between 17:00 & 21:00 every day?
      And don’t get me started on the 500kg deadlift nearly killing him and how he “bled out of his ears” 🙄.

    • @Squatch34
      @Squatch34 5 місяців тому +1

      @@him050kinda sound like a Eddie hater? Thor is that u?

  • @darrylbrown7833
    @darrylbrown7833 5 місяців тому +62

    From memory,whenever he was interviewed he said he ate 10-12,000 calories a day

    • @corbinnevlingray1724
      @corbinnevlingray1724 5 місяців тому +7

      Yes, 16,000 was his most. He said he was feeling rough that one day he did that.

    • @thomasrosendahl2783
      @thomasrosendahl2783 5 місяців тому

      That is way too much for a 100 kg man like Eddie, muscle mass that is

  • @mike_y1
    @mike_y1 5 місяців тому +5

    Normally I don’t watch the videos where Mitch just talks but I watched this one from beginning to end without interruption. Super interesting video 🔥

  • @eoghanmyers2330
    @eoghanmyers2330 5 місяців тому +53

    Just a comment about BMR calculation for anyone looking into it. The Harris-Benedict equation is most accurate in general population and was also based primarily in north america. If you have a low bf% and high muscle mass the Cunningham or Katch-McArdle equations are probably going to be more accurate but they do require your lean body mass. Oxford is also the standard equation used for general population in Europe (only one I've ever used for GP as a sports scientist in Ireland), the sample size was 100 times as large and more diverse than Harris-Benedict.
    But with all BMR calculations, your milage may vary. Ideally either have it lab tested or use your daily/weekly body weight and calorie tracking to determine maintenance and adjust from there.

    • @Kampbell300
      @Kampbell300 5 місяців тому +3

      eddie had allot of testing done, hooper is using very out dated science or missing major things out here

    • @siddharthravishankar7243
      @siddharthravishankar7243 5 місяців тому +5

      @@Kampbell300 Such as?

    • @priestfan81
      @priestfan81 4 місяці тому

      ​​@siddharthravishankar7243 400lb weightlifters taking liters of anabolics annually

    • @SausageFPS
      @SausageFPS 3 дні тому

      @@Kampbell300 He is not. Hes using modern science for Eddies 2017 Strongman. Everything Moose is saying is true when it comes to fat, carb and protein intake. It was blatant overkill for no reason. Id say Moose is more decorated as a strongman than Eddie, and seems more practical when it comes to nutrition for strongman.

    • @Kampbell300
      @Kampbell300 3 дні тому

      @@SausageFPS I’d agree somewhat, I don’t care to get into the particulars but eddies xtreemes seemed to get the results

  • @caivonnspencer8591
    @caivonnspencer8591 5 місяців тому +58

    Great vid mitch. Can you do a vid for Brian Shaw's peak diet too

  • @calebgodard4554
    @calebgodard4554 5 місяців тому +70

    "I can't think of a less true statement" 😂 great video. Thank you!

  • @dominictrombley3583
    @dominictrombley3583 Місяць тому

    Mitch, this is my favorite video of yours. I’ve watched it a couple times now. You should critique a lot of different athletes diets. You seem to have a good grasp on this knowledge and it’s entertaining.

  • @austinshea4508
    @austinshea4508 5 місяців тому +113

    Can you please organize a strong man eating competition

    • @DVW1983
      @DVW1983 5 місяців тому +5

      What, from this video, makes you think he would want to do something like that?

    • @DavidVirtanen
      @DavidVirtanen 5 місяців тому +3

      Fat Mitchell Approves 👍🏻

    • @JeffO-
      @JeffO- 5 місяців тому +3

      Please no. This fascination with overeating is just weird and not healthy. Mitch would be the last person who would want to do it based on what he's said in the past.

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 5 місяців тому +1

      @@JeffO- Most of what they eat just goes in the toilet anyways. It would be kind of interesting to see how they'd fare. But I'd also want them to compete against professional eaters too just for comparison.

    • @mitchellhooperstrongman
      @mitchellhooperstrongman  5 місяців тому +41

      Not even a video I would want to participate in. lol

  • @harima6678
    @harima6678 5 місяців тому +78

    I'm curious about how many times he shitted per day. Bulking up is so damn hard on the digestive system

    • @iielysiumx5811
      @iielysiumx5811 5 місяців тому +19

      A lot, I feel sorry for his toilet

    • @michaellawlor5625
      @michaellawlor5625 5 місяців тому

      ​@@iielysiumx5811that would of took a pasting.

    • @scottessery100
      @scottessery100 5 місяців тому +6

      @@iielysiumx5811was it frequency or quantity 😳

    • @iandavidson99
      @iandavidson99 5 місяців тому +22

      High reps, or high volume? 😅😂

    • @patrick5645
      @patrick5645 5 місяців тому +4

      Asking the important questions 😁

  • @Gndlf_TheOrange
    @Gndlf_TheOrange 5 місяців тому +14

    I'm glad someone called this out. I'm not here to sh*t on Eddie, he was an amazing strongman but the one thing he does do it massively exaggerate things. He's one of those strongmen that made the eating side of it ridiculous and probably put off a lot of people from wanting to train strongman.

    • @boxingvanilla5960
      @boxingvanilla5960 5 місяців тому +5

      Called out what? He is still eating at least 12,500 calories 🤣 That is a shit ton either way

    • @Gndlf_TheOrange
      @Gndlf_TheOrange 5 місяців тому +5

      @boxingvanilla5960 I know he is, but as I said Eddie used to suggest that it was necessary to eat like that to be a strongman and the amount he ate in estimated calories would climb every time it was mentioned, as was his max weight. 30st...30.5st...31st... etc.

    • @Heizzer47
      @Heizzer47 4 місяці тому +4

      @@boxingvanilla5960 Eddie would've weighed more than 550lbs if he actually was in this level of surplus for as long as he says he was in. Its logically and physically not possible

    • @maxa8838
      @maxa8838 4 місяці тому +3

      I have always thinked that all these giants exaggerate amount of calories.
      And these day of eating videos, just added something more and had a heavy eating day for video 😂
      Then back to "basics".
      But still they all do eat huge amount of food 😂 no doubt

    • @Gndlf_TheOrange
      @Gndlf_TheOrange 4 місяці тому +1

      @maxa8838 yeah definitely, all gets clicks doesn't it. They definitely eat a load just maybe 60% of what they advertise 😅

  • @hedjuk
    @hedjuk 5 місяців тому +41

    The massive amount of Gear probably ups the calorie burn in building and maintaining that level of muscle mass.

    • @ahmadarafat8836
      @ahmadarafat8836 5 місяців тому +4

      wsm is natty

    • @NikBorton
      @NikBorton 5 місяців тому +47

      @@ahmadarafat8836 Aw, bless.

    • @KeyserSoze23
      @KeyserSoze23 5 місяців тому

      World Strongest Man has high level PED testing. If you test clean you can't compete.

    • @champnotchicken4318
      @champnotchicken4318 5 місяців тому

      @@ahmadarafat8836 Bruh

    • @ExecutiveRocket
      @ExecutiveRocket 5 місяців тому

      @@ahmadarafat8836 lol

  • @Romo69
    @Romo69 5 місяців тому +11

    Every time I hear about Eddie’s diet another 1000 calories are added. In his 2017 interview he is quoted saying he ate 10,000-12,000 calories a day. 16,000 sounds ridiculous

    • @antz_life
      @antz_life Місяць тому

      And i think he was at 10k while trying to get to 440lbs not the rest of his stringman career

  • @arturovisoso8597
    @arturovisoso8597 5 місяців тому +1

    One thing I really love about my good friend Mitch is that his videos ALWAYS show some kind of support , studies, books, experts' opinions and of course his judgement as an athlete and likely his professional background. He has also a degree. I think his perspectives on his videos give a fair balance between health and fitness, which not necessarily align these days. Eg. being fit/strong don't necessarily mean being healthy
    How many of the fitness and internet names you know provide such support in their "expert views" of whatever topic they speak bout. I can probably count them with fingers. Most of them probably don't even like to read, except news of their respective sport. I thin this is of such tremendous value for us because it is education to improve and awareness of our health. Most of these guys speak I think speak and recommend based on their personal experience and pretend to know when they are not.
    Personally I find hard to believe and even question sometimes the information these guys, fitness guys give and show...so we have to be careful to what he hear and see on the Internet and for those who have kids, make sure to supervise what they do

  • @MaxRamsden-d6y
    @MaxRamsden-d6y 5 місяців тому +6

    Correction Flap Jacks are not pancakes for British People.

  • @romanchristov9486
    @romanchristov9486 5 місяців тому

    Great video Mitch, very educational and entertaining at the same time. Thanks. Greetings from Czech Republic!

  • @MonMonKack
    @MonMonKack 4 місяці тому

    This video was so needed in my life. thank you mitch for explaining things so clearly. Congrats on being the strongest man on earth.

  • @radthibideaux9978
    @radthibideaux9978 5 місяців тому +33

    Eddie as a strongman was the definition of the stupid end of bro science working because basically anything would have worked for him. He could easily have eaten like 6 or 7k of better food and would still have been as good as he was without potentially ruining his long term health

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 5 місяців тому +3

      I'm sure Eddie didn't wake up one day and just decide he was going to eat 10k of calories per day. I'm sure his diet only grew, because he was plateauing on the amount of calories he was consuming, so he increased it. And you don't know if he could've accomplished what he did without eating what he ate. How many people you think have ever deadlifted 500kg, let alone in competition?
      He might very well have shortened his life by eating the foods he ate to the excesses that he ate, but that's part of the game. Even if he ate "better fats," that is still like putting a band aid on a gunshot wound.

    • @radthibideaux9978
      @radthibideaux9978 5 місяців тому +8

      @jd9119 there's no such thing as a plateau for food when you're at 10k calories even at 450lbs. Eddie drank a litre of cranberry juice every day because of some study he saw once about antioxidants. There is plenty of ways he could have improved his diet vastly to have probably the same or better performance and not take 20 years off his life

    • @akalion213
      @akalion213 4 місяці тому

      Say it with me - the only things that matter are genetics and effort.

    • @TsregoR
      @TsregoR 4 місяці тому +5

      @@akalion213 no?

    • @akalion213
      @akalion213 4 місяці тому

      @@TsregoR bro you ok?

  • @marcosolivares3278
    @marcosolivares3278 4 місяці тому

    I love this video because a lot of people would say this is roasting Eddie, but it’s not. Mitchell Hooper’s reason for videos are to educate the audience and strive for Strongman as a sport to be healthy. I love Eddie Hall and Mitchell Hooper both, and I guarantee you Eddie now would say it isn’t necessary for you to do what he did, but it is what he did and it worked for him and he more than likely do it over again. Mitch has respect for Eddie and vis versa. This was an educational video and very informative.
    Don’t forget to lift heavy be kind!
    Big love the Beast 🦾

  • @philippecourtemanche7190
    @philippecourtemanche7190 5 місяців тому

    very entertaining video
    As a strongman fan, I've watched so many Eddie Hall eating videos and it's nice to have you critique it

  • @ysteinnilsen699
    @ysteinnilsen699 5 місяців тому +16

    Curious where you source your statements on amino acid absorption for the purpose of muscle protein synthesis, like the bolus size and variables that affect the rate of absorption. I'm just a layman but it doesn't seem very clear cut to me. One relevant journal article I read being "How much protein can the body use in a single meal for muscle-building? Implications for daily protein distribution" 2018, by Schoenfield and Aragon.

    • @mcfarvo
      @mcfarvo 5 місяців тому +2

      Mitch isn't nearly as knowledgeable as Brad Schoenfeld or Alan Aragon. I'd look to Layne Norton or Mike Israetel over Mitch Hooper on communicating about these topics with more nuance and accuracy. That said, Mitch knows enough to get by for himself and win world-level championships in the sport of Strongman.

    • @taiiiz3969
      @taiiiz3969 4 місяці тому +2

      Not being able to absorb that protein in one meal is just not a real fact of the world, in the next sentence he talks about good fats from vegetable oils, he just keeps perpetuating the shit about red meat and saturated fat. I sustain 230lbs with one meal a day, and every 2 weeks I fast for 2 days, according to mitch this is impossible because you just wouldn't digest the food, he doesn't know wtf he's talking about when he's talking about food

  • @tomk1304
    @tomk1304 5 місяців тому +18

    I know this may be irrelevant but just incase you weren't aware a flapjack is oats, butter and honey/sugar. its almost equal parts. Not totally sure what an oat bar is made of but hopefully a healthier balance !

    • @dyelbodybuild5601
      @dyelbodybuild5601 5 місяців тому +6

      Depends where you’re from
      Flapjack in USA is a pancake

  • @bobz4968
    @bobz4968 5 місяців тому +2

    Eddie only had 1 WSM, as he said, was too hard on his body. I never believed he needed to weigh 440 lbs. Yet, it worked for him. Static monster, but still moved well. Amazing.

  • @makeithappen109
    @makeithappen109 5 місяців тому +17

    You missed out a lot of the food he eats, for example, what about the sausages, black pudding & beans from his breakfast?

    • @Costa_del_Artlepool
      @Costa_del_Artlepool 4 місяці тому

      English breakfast might be the only good thing we've come up with.

  • @spunhead
    @spunhead 5 місяців тому +9

    Something is not adding up. You said his Cranberry juice and nuts meal was 144g of carbs. He is drinking Ocean Spray Cranberry Classic 1 Litre which is 43g of carbs per liter and he had 2 60 g Tesco Cashew Nuts Snack Pack 60G which would be 14.8g carbs for each one. That meal had 57.8 grams of carbs in total.

    • @6thsense464
      @6thsense464 5 місяців тому

      He thinks that in Europe we get all those NA sugar loaded bullshit food.

    • @joshuafeirreira4233
      @joshuafeirreira4233 5 місяців тому +2

      Online it says per 250ml is 31g of carbs

    • @ryansmith7987
      @ryansmith7987 2 місяці тому +1

      A litre of any cranberry juice is way more than 43g of carbs. Its YOUR math that doesn't add up 😂

  • @markmoon9024
    @markmoon9024 5 місяців тому +12

    Can you please review Ross Edgeley’s diet bulk for a swim. I never seen anyone eat so much cheese cake

    • @Costa_del_Artlepool
      @Costa_del_Artlepool 4 місяці тому

      Bet I could eat more cheese cake, but tbf I save time by not swimming or exercising in any way, shape or form.

  • @paulvetrone6570
    @paulvetrone6570 3 місяці тому

    This is such a good explanation. It really sounds like he was trying to bulk but could have done it much more efficiently. Thanks Mitch!

  • @losvatos6714
    @losvatos6714 5 місяців тому +1

    Mitch it will be cool to see you dissect and analyze his training regime/program + deadlift peaking for the 500kg during his strongman years .

  • @IceArrow-dr8yd
    @IceArrow-dr8yd 29 днів тому

    Great video mitchell.
    Well done eddie in point of static power:
    - 216kg axle STRIIIIICT press
    - 500kg deadlift
    - 317.5kg squat x15
    ... and so on

  • @owenbell307
    @owenbell307 5 місяців тому +4

    You never really considered how much oil there is on a British fry up. Everything else seems on point. I fully doubt he ate like that everyday but don't doubt he probably did it

  • @keithhuckfield7783
    @keithhuckfield7783 5 місяців тому +6

    I’m glad someone finally did this video, he does so many videos where he gets other athletes to eat his diet and calls it a “strongman diet” but it just a cartoonish amount of food and so unhealthy. I’ve been waiting for a break down of it for a while.

    • @Adiarby13
      @Adiarby13 5 місяців тому

      i think Hooper is just one of a few who actually eat “little” or “less”. Eddie got tested at a university and his resting metabolic rate is at 5000cal so he need “cartoonish” amount to get big when he was competing

    • @ph1shstyx
      @ph1shstyx 5 місяців тому

      @@Adiarby13 It was really the only way he could keep up with the competition, having both Thor and Brian as his direct competition and beating them both in their primes for a WSM title. Thor and Brian are both genetic monsters when it comes to strongman, so I could see Eddie using everything he could to try to keep up with them.

    • @keithhuckfield7783
      @keithhuckfield7783 5 місяців тому

      @@Adiarby13 *sighs inwardly. He does not require 13000 calories and, as stated in the video, the food he is eating is not fuelling his training in any meaningful way. He will require extra protein for muscle growth and perhaps additional carbs before a workout, in a simple, easy to metabolise form. But the food he eats and the quantities he eats it in, are cartoonish. He will not burn anywhere near the amount of calories he is taking in. He would need to burn an additional 8000 calories PER DAY to warrant the amount of calories he eats, putting aside the unhealthy nature of a lot of the food. His excess mass is a sign of that. Strength work taxes the muscles but doesn’t burn masses of calories. I completed an hour interval running workout this morning and burnt around 800 calories. I did an hour of strength training, antagonist supersets with 4 sets of 10 strength exercises, grouped in 2s. 40 second rest in between set, 90 seconds between exercise. I burnt around 400 calories. But what do I know, I’m just an endurance athlete.

    • @Adiarby13
      @Adiarby13 5 місяців тому

      @@keithhuckfield7783 you dont understand what “need” means in Eddie’s context. for most people eating 500-1000cal above maintenance is probably enough just to slowly increase body weight and strengt , that guy goal however was to be as big as he could to be as strong as he could to compete with arguably the best of all times strongest men athletes. He wasnt trying to burn calories. he wasnt tryin to look good in front of the mirror. Eddie isnt small but compare to Thor and Shaw he’s far from big. he need all that extra size. i mean look at the podium picture from wsm2017. there’s no way for him to win that if he was any smaller.

  • @MeowterKnightsOfSantiago2024
    @MeowterKnightsOfSantiago2024 4 місяці тому

    Amazing video very enlightening thank you. And congratulations on winning Strongest man on earth!

  • @kristideeley
    @kristideeley 12 днів тому

    This video came out during my semester of Nutritional Assessment for my Nutrition and Health degree. My brain is currently fried from exams and I'm buried in Christmas prep, but I would love to come back here to the comments when I get a chance and break down Eddie's 24-hour recall there and run all the equations regarding the amount of total calories, protein, carbs, fats, and water an athlete his size with his physical activity levels would be like and hopefully show some of y'all how to figure out what your body needs for your size and weight and activity levels and goals would be. So here's me sticking a pin in this thread for later. 😉📌

  • @John2r1
    @John2r1 5 місяців тому

    Fun fact most people don't know with regards to calorie intact. The soldier or military personnel in garrison needs to consume about 3,250 calories a day for sustenance.
    This is due to the active lifestyle and training. Because military personnel train like cross fit athletes.
    This is also why soldiers have a expected career of 20 years.
    So given the training for strongman or any sport that requires strength around 6,000 to 7,000 calories would make sense if you're working out to build mass. Eating over 12,000 calories is absolutely insane even for someone Eddies size

  • @mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926
    @mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 5 місяців тому +46

    Remember digestibility is also a huge factor. The protein from eggs is about 99% oatmeal is 85%. So the Protein total is almost always lower then what it say in the food declaration.

    • @picantejaguar5994
      @picantejaguar5994 5 місяців тому +6

      Protein recommendations ie 1g/lb of bodyweight don’t account for protein quality. 1g/lb is also a pretty large overestimation according to the current literature. If you are worried about protein quality, the general rule is get at least half of your protein from high quality sources like eggs, whey, lean meats, and dairy.

    • @KalkuehlGym
      @KalkuehlGym 5 місяців тому +1

      yea but if you also consume whey, you can actually support the other proteins you consumed. Whey protein is 104% "digestibal" which means there are more amino acids than you need which could be utilized for your other meals.

    • @scottessery100
      @scottessery100 5 місяців тому +1

      @@KalkuehlGymthen add 2 g of peds a week to the mix and your body can utilise far more protein. But eddy was in a huge kcal excess so most was stored for fun

    • @jaskaransethy
      @jaskaransethy 5 місяців тому

      @@picantejaguar5994 This honestly seems like bs "dr" mike israetelisms. World class coaches and athletes (who actually have accomplishments in lifting related fields, instead of conducting studies with 15 untrained men and calling the meta analysis of these studies statistically significant) will often recommend even up to 2g/lb.

    • @jaskaransethy
      @jaskaransethy 5 місяців тому +6

      @mathiaskjeldgaardpetersen5926 Digestibility and quality are also factors that only play if you are not eating a varied diet. You might look at the protein quality of rice, say it's 50%, and the protein quality of lentils, and say oh it's 60%, and a cup of rice has maybe 3g of protein and cup of lentils has maybe 6g of protein, and you do the math and you say oh I only got 0.5 * 3 + 0.6 * 6 = 1.5 + 3.6 = 5.1g of protein out of 9g. But reality is, the amino acid profile of the lentil might complete the amino acid profile of the rice, and you end up with the entire meal having a 100% digestibility even though the individual sources don't -- ending up with the entire 9g of protein absorbed.

  • @Tubby_brewster82
    @Tubby_brewster82 3 місяці тому

    I saw the original filming he did for a TV documentary before his UA-cam fame when he was still an active strongman. He was in training for his world strongest man win in 2017 so filmed around 2016, he was way bigger then also the milk he used was different he found out he was lactose intolerant later on. In the original filming he drank jersey creamed milk a higher fat content than regular whole milk, that's why he's using lactose free whole milk in that video

  • @TheoDare-z7n
    @TheoDare-z7n 5 місяців тому

    There are studies disproving the idea that you can only take in so much protein at any one time. If you eat your daily protein goal in 1 meal it has the same effect as over 3 meals.

  • @wizard4238
    @wizard4238 4 місяці тому

    i love this content hooper- u are a very intelligent strongman - 👍👍

  • @mikecar52
    @mikecar52 Місяць тому

    good stuff Mitchell.

  • @NFT_Leano
    @NFT_Leano 4 місяці тому

    dr mike isratel of the strongman world, great quality content!

  • @ladsbois7302
    @ladsbois7302 5 місяців тому +2

    Hi Mitch! I'm a third of the way in this video at the moment. Seeing Eddy's macros compared to his activity brought up an intriguing question. How do competitive eaters maintain a leaner body mass compared to strong men? Would like to hear your thoughts on this. Much love

    • @scottlightfoot9765
      @scottlightfoot9765 5 місяців тому +1

      A lot of competitive eaters will drink water in access to keep their stomachs stretched out. Since water has no calories, it’s a good trade off to keep their stomachs in shape for competitive eating while maintaining a reasonable figure.

    • @brettrunyon6698
      @brettrunyon6698 5 місяців тому +1

      They don’t eat like that every day. Outside of practice/competition they’re often in a calorie deficit throughout the weeks. Some of them also purposefully throw up their food after training/comp

  • @antoniocelan3379
    @antoniocelan3379 5 місяців тому +2

    But you also have to look at his prime years at strongman. Thats the biggest that strongman is gonna be. Look at brian,Thor that year rhey were massive. Its really different now

  • @michaeloxlong5697
    @michaeloxlong5697 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey Mitch at 6:16 you say the cranberry juice has 144g of carbs. Is Eddie saying whether it's 100% cranberry or not? If it is cranberry cocktail, I believe it, but I'm looking at my bottle of 100% cranberry juice and it has 946mL total but only 72g of carbs (36g of which are sugar) in the entire bottle. Just checking I'm sure not all juices are alike but cranberry tends to be really astringent and low on sugar.

    • @alfies98
      @alfies98 29 днів тому

      Also, a lot of english foods are significantly different to what he could find in america/canada. Brand to brand for the same product can be wildly different

  • @Topsiekku
    @Topsiekku Місяць тому

    The calculation method of Mifflin-St Jeor (1990) is considered more accurate today.

  • @Absolutebadman747
    @Absolutebadman747 5 місяців тому +2

    In Eddie's original video he doesn't eat the cheesecake. He scoops it into his lap.

  • @sammorrissey9094
    @sammorrissey9094 5 місяців тому

    Metabolic rates can also affect the amount of calories burnt, but not by 10k of course, most likely +/-500 calories per day in any reasonable case, otherwise you would likely see additional issues that would be requiring medical attention

  • @cgrcooke
    @cgrcooke 5 місяців тому

    There is a way to account for muscle mass in BMR - use the Cunningham formula. Very common use in combat sports

  • @budda222003
    @budda222003 5 місяців тому +1

    Love the content. This is great, I hope Eddie makes a rebuttal.

  • @thecarnivorestrongman
    @thecarnivorestrongman 5 місяців тому

    do a video on strongmen getting leaner. how to eat to maintain/build muscle and get leaner.

  • @Cygnus__X1
    @Cygnus__X1 5 місяців тому +9

    How did you account for butter or oils used in cooking? Could easily bump this 12k number to 14k. Even closer to 16k.

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 5 місяців тому

      unless he is doing the oiliest shit ever, not feasible

    • @Cygnus__X1
      @Cygnus__X1 5 місяців тому

      @@98danielray 800 calories in 1 stick of butter. All that pasta, steak, eggs, and bread? 2 sticks easily.

  • @phoenixmichaels
    @phoenixmichaels 3 місяці тому

    I was an ectomorph waif when I started training, 5'10" and 140 pounds. I had 5 full meals a day, and drank a dozen raw eggs daily as well to slide in more calories. It was a struggle which required discipline over the years. Unless you're eating junk, that many full meals of real clean food is a LOT of volume. I was eating around 5500 calories daily. Training as a bodybuilder (but a lot of focus too on powerlifting) I went to a lean 205 in about 8 years, no gear utilized. I cannot imagine eating 16K calories daily, or why it would be beneficial to try. Maybe taking steroids would help with absorption/utilization of those calories... I don't know very much about them. 5500 calories was a tremendous amount of food to maintain over that period, when you are eating rice, chicken, fish, broccoli, and cabbage. It's a daily mountain of food. 16K seems impossible to maintain.

  • @david2049
    @david2049 5 місяців тому +5

    I know he was strong, but Eddie was so ridiculously unhealthy when he was competing. I remember him talking about issues with his heart, numbness etc. He is lucky he didn't pass away.

    • @thomasrosendahl2783
      @thomasrosendahl2783 5 місяців тому +2

      And still he decides to weigh 170 kg, he is only 6 foot 1, not 6 foot 8 like Shaw, Thor or Stoltman

  • @DavidVirtanen
    @DavidVirtanen 5 місяців тому

    Great Video Mitch Tysm 🤗❤️❤️❤️❤️💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @ZachDidDat
    @ZachDidDat 5 місяців тому

    Id be really interested to see a breakdown like this for Brian Shaws strangman diet. From what ive seen, his diet was quite a bit cleaner so id like to see your thoughts on it.

  • @Dr_Coe
    @Dr_Coe 5 місяців тому

    I think we've come a long way in strongman in terms of nutrition and eating. As newer competitors come into the system they bring far better understanding of what's actually needed. There's been a growing cross discussion and learning from bodybuilders and just more overall education. hopefully, more content like this will make more strength athletes healthier.

  • @Hovis_Enjoyer
    @Hovis_Enjoyer 4 місяці тому

    OK just to point out in that first breakfast you can see there is also beans there as well, plus that isn't toast, that is fried bread. not to mention there is also black pudding. I expect that is easily 2000cals there

  • @rf3903
    @rf3903 5 місяців тому +2

    Could you give us your opinion on the carnivore diet please would be interesting to get your point of view as a strong man

  • @jamesjohnson7905
    @jamesjohnson7905 5 місяців тому

    That's why Eddie's midsection was huge even by strongman standards his digestive system was one huge fermentation tank

  • @Tree-beard
    @Tree-beard 4 місяці тому +1

    I get my 4.2k calories per day, to maintain a 300lbs strongman. But looking at this, and listening to you Mitch, going to look at more healthy fats and fibre.

  • @TowhomdoIoweexcess
    @TowhomdoIoweexcess 5 місяців тому

    MITCHELL YOUR INCREDIBLE MORE PEOPLE NEED TO LIFT HEAVY BE KIND JOIN THE MOVEMENT

  • @thomasemil4851
    @thomasemil4851 5 місяців тому +2

    When you eat so much food you don't need to fuel up for a workout, you are fueled up all the time.

    • @BulletESV
      @BulletESV 5 місяців тому +2

      Yeah exactly, he was basically just trying to gain as much weight as he possibly could lol

  • @hedhell
    @hedhell 5 місяців тому +1

    The bigger question is why you chase some visual abs when you should prep for shaw

  • @him050
    @him050 5 місяців тому +2

    It’s where they tot up the calories of the meal and say shit like, "so that's a 2300 calories meal on its own. With the mayo that's an extra 150 ish calories, the OJ an extra what? 300 calories? So with the extras let's call it 3000 calories for lunch" Umm no, let's not, because it isn’t.
    They do this for every meal and by the end of the video all the widely overestimated calories, or just outright wrong, bullshitted ones (like when he said 4 slices of fried bread, when really it's two cut in half), has added an extra 3000 calories. 500 extra for all 6 meals. Like how much did he say the cream on the cheesecake was? It’s was like one tablespoon and he claimed it was like 500 calories 😂.

  • @JordanFayter
    @JordanFayter 4 місяці тому

    A video that I think would be a good one would be a diet and exercise breakdown of Dr Shawn Baker. He's in his 50's almost 60, is a carnivore and is still breaking world records.

  • @Fast-Alex
    @Fast-Alex 5 місяців тому +1

    Dr Mike stated in a video a while back that some “gear” protocols require 1.25-1.5g/lb of body weight per day. And I think we can safely say that Eddie was certainly on gear at this point. Being enhanced changes the standard considerations, no? Not saying this isn’t insanely excessive haha, just thinking that special consideration should be taken into account with someone on gear.

  • @dillionedmonds5736
    @dillionedmonds5736 5 місяців тому +5

    When i was doing a very physically intensive job (loading trailers by hand with 200lb+ boxes 5-7 hours a day) i was eating.
    Breakfast- 2 footlong subs from subway, 64oz energy drink/electrolyte drink mix
    Then on the way to work 4-5 burgers or burritos off the dollar menu from taco bell or McDonald's
    Lunch- 4-8 big cheeseburgers from jack in the box
    Dinner- 1lb of chow mein and 1lb of chicken from this amazing chinese restaurant on the way home
    Various snacks at home.
    I dropped 60lbs the first month i worked there and only managed to stop losing weight once i added a large protein shake sometime during the day. I was at around 220lbs after the weight stabilized. Nobody i knew believed how much i was eating until i took them with me to my meals...
    Bad part is once i stopped that job, i did put on about 50lbs in 3 months.

    • @MaddenManniacs
      @MaddenManniacs 5 місяців тому +1

      I worked for UPS loading feeder trucks which was very similar to what you describe. I was in my mid 20s and was eating like a horse and gained zero weight. LOL. It was very difficult to keep up with the calories burned at work.

    • @dillionedmonds5736
      @dillionedmonds5736 5 місяців тому +2

      @@MaddenManniacs I was at a main FedEx hub loading Trampolines, bed in a box, and 5-15 foot blinds. Some of those packages were up to about 300lbs... if I has paid attention to the fact I was walking with 1 of those in each hand I might have gone into strongman stuff as I wasn't very far off from being able to world's strongest man level weights without pushing myself. After all, doing basically a 500lb farmers walk a couple dozen times a day would have put me at least within the range of what they were doing at the time. Mix that with the other stuff I was doing like our little strongman contest we had internally when we had a bunch of trampolines that we had to get into a trailer with a chute in the way and took turns picking the things up overhead and pressing them over the thing and the biggest box I did was about 240lbs which nobody else there could get above shoulder height. Shocked the hell out of my coworkers when I threw that one in the chute.
      And yes, I know we broke OSHA safe lifting measures all the time. I'm pretty sure that overhead pressing team lift boxes was not supposed to be allowed lol

  • @ahnilatedahnilated7703
    @ahnilatedahnilated7703 5 місяців тому

    Thanks Mitchell for the great advice!

  • @Just_trades-v1q
    @Just_trades-v1q 5 місяців тому +3

    I believe when he eats 500g of pasta that is the uncooked weight. His dinner would have 375g of carbs just from that.

    • @him050
      @him050 5 місяців тому +1

      In the UK pasta tends to come in 500g packets. Knowing Eddie, he would have mentioned that he was eating a whole packet if it was the uncooked weight.

  • @mgrimble3975
    @mgrimble3975 5 місяців тому +9

    It should be pointed out that both bmr and bmi can give wildly inaccurate calorific needs for people at both extremes of the margin.

    • @mrsensei8878
      @mrsensei8878 5 місяців тому +4

      Ofcourse it is inaccurate at extremes, but it will not be off with 10000 kcal as he explains in this video.

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 5 місяців тому

      ​@@mrsensei8878yep. they think this is black or white.

  • @jessenorris84
    @jessenorris84 5 місяців тому +1

    You're not accounting for all the butter at breakfast and other cooking oils and or butter used in the rest of his meals. That alone is a ton of calories all coming from fat at 9 calories per gram.

  • @rpandrews8633
    @rpandrews8633 3 місяці тому

    Pancakes are pancakes... And flapjacks are flapjacks 😂 can't let that one slide!

  • @Bootman899
    @Bootman899 5 місяців тому +1

    It's also important to remember Ed is all about supplements and recovery. Growth Hormone and peptides will stimulate the hell out of your hunger and increase absorpsion. He was absolutely slamming fish oil too. Sleeping in hyperbaric chamber. Etc. The man is a maniac.

  • @neilshoddy01
    @neilshoddy01 5 місяців тому +1

    It’s great to see this being broke down
    Eddie didn’t have a dietitian but still was one of the strongest men to live
    It’s a Pitty he’s not still in the game
    Good work Mitch
    But wonder will Eddie take this ok?
    Hope it wasn’t intentional to mock Eddie, but I’m sure it wasn’t xxoo

  • @briere89
    @briere89 5 місяців тому

    My understanding is that the most recent literature suggest that the protein absorption threshold is bro science.

    • @user-xg9wb9zs7j
      @user-xg9wb9zs7j 5 місяців тому

      facts, protein threshold is pencil neck science, DGGL

  • @paulandrade7588
    @paulandrade7588 3 місяці тому

    I want to see Mitch review one of Eric the Electric's daily meals

  • @discounttyres8744
    @discounttyres8744 5 місяців тому +31

    why do i feel like
    eddy is going to have a problem with this video 🤣

    • @him050
      @him050 5 місяців тому +5

      Would have been a business deal most likely. It works for both of them. Mitch gets clicks by using Eddie’s name. Eddie’s video gets more traffic from people watching this video. It’s a win win.

  • @Bayer04lev
    @Bayer04lev 5 місяців тому

    I am confused about some assumptions.
    Maybe I misunderstand something, tell me please.
    The full English Breakfast and you assume like 23 grams of fat? the eggs have this amount, let alone sausage, oil etc.
    500 grams of pasta are 90 grams of carbs and you get 500 calories of these carbs? isn't it like 400 grams of carbs and therefore at least 1600 calories from pasta?

  • @thedarkgate817
    @thedarkgate817 5 місяців тому

    how about a video series of trying other strongman diets?

  • @yukkuri_lifter
    @yukkuri_lifter 5 місяців тому +4

    Eddie Hall (and even Brian Shaw) are what I see to be kind of athlete that uses "eating for sport" as a excuse for just being massive gluttons and possibly have some undiagnosed eating disorder derived from the dominance of vanity in their pursuits. Doesn't matter how healthy their food is when the quantities exceed necessity for what they do. It also doesn't help them that the people around them may not give them that reality check and their ego's are tied to their trophies with zealous fans and expedient sponsors quick to dismiss any concern for their well being.

    • @boxingvanilla5960
      @boxingvanilla5960 5 місяців тому +2

      This is mega assumption and projecting icl

    • @mariusastier8138
      @mariusastier8138 5 місяців тому +1

      I 100% agree, they need to get a diagnosis for their disorder

    • @98danielray
      @98danielray 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@boxingvanilla5960do you really doubt half of strongman are coping about how much food they actually need?

    • @yukkuri_lifter
      @yukkuri_lifter 5 місяців тому

      ​@@boxingvanilla5960 Found the zealot.

  • @sammathews2460
    @sammathews2460 5 місяців тому

    Silly thing really, but I'm a brit and just wanted to let you know that flapjack is nothing like pancakes. They are probably like your oat bars but a bit more crumbly - a bit like cold apple pie really but with varied flavours. Would ignore it, but the Scots (Stoltmans included ) might give you hell else :D

  • @ABD5667
    @ABD5667 5 місяців тому

    As a skinny person i found eating before bed really helped me gain weight and doesnt make me feel full throughout the dayalso i wouldnt eat so much that i fell full or made sleeping difficult.

  • @DadGetsFit
    @DadGetsFit 5 місяців тому

    I would like for you to look into vegetable oils as healthy. The data I've seen says otherwise and we kind of have been mislead. Animal fat is something we process much better. Would love to see what you think after looking into it.

  • @jakedragon8753
    @jakedragon8753 4 місяці тому

    I'm just guessing but figure he was on a bulk or high volume for his normal and possibly had issues holding weight, he was kinda known as the "smaller/shorter" strongman so guessing at some point his body just didn't want to hold onto the mass he had

  • @themightyhercules708
    @themightyhercules708 4 місяці тому

    wow, hooper is growing on me

  • @wa2k360
    @wa2k360 5 місяців тому +2

    Interested how much anabolics would effect his metabolism

    • @jd9119
      @jd9119 5 місяців тому

      I'm pretty sure most people would still be morbidly obese regardless of how much gear or insulin they use if they ate this on a regular basis. By the way, Eddie himself said he's only eaten this much a few times. He said he felt like garbage eating that much and didn't do it again. UA-cam is the new television. Don't believe what you see on TV.

    • @TangoKilo-fp8uu
      @TangoKilo-fp8uu 5 місяців тому +1

      It increases it drastically. Depending on what you run, you may find yourself needing to eat and extra 1200
      Calories a day to keep up. Plus, as a natural you will only experienced enhanced MPS for 24 hours after a training stimulus. When you run test, you are always in that enhanced state and you can utilize much more protein as a result. You need to eat every 2-3 hours just because the amount of calories isn’t manageable otherwise.

  • @Sarge75
    @Sarge75 5 місяців тому +4

    What is this click bait society will it never end

  • @markparkin5372
    @markparkin5372 5 місяців тому

    Am I right in thinking Eddie said he did this once as a trial but never did it again because he was extremely ill after? I'm sure I've seen an interview where e said this

  • @nissimlevy5476
    @nissimlevy5476 4 місяці тому

    holy mother of sweet mercy

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro 5 місяців тому +1

    170g of protein, that's pretty much my daily need on paper. Sheesh.
    I've had 120g of protein in a meal when I ate a whole rotisserie chicken, I just had to take a nap after that. Was full for 8 hours. 😮‍💨 Pretty cool cheat meal when dieting, actually.

  • @kodytaylorFITNESS
    @kodytaylorFITNESS 5 місяців тому

    Thats without factoring calories from sodium sugar etc.

  • @jesperburns
    @jesperburns 5 місяців тому

    Pretty sure the juice in red meat is mostly water, and a quarter myoglobin, which is a protein.

  • @glennjanot8128
    @glennjanot8128 5 місяців тому

    Eddie had said that he did in fact eat 12,000 calories every day.
    One day, he also drank a whole bottle of coffee creamer during the day, taking sips here and there. The whole bottle is somewhere around 5,000 calories.
    He also spend the night on the toilet, shitting and puking because as he had learned later, he as some trouble with lactose intolerance

    • @DollaritaSteve
      @DollaritaSteve 5 місяців тому

      “Lactose intolerance” is almost disrespectful to his digestive tract like who among us could possibly consume that much lactose

    • @glennjanot8128
      @glennjanot8128 5 місяців тому

      @@DollaritaSteve Well, intolerance is maybe the wrong word. His body could digest lactose but as you said, he consumed such stupendous amounts that he had some serious issues. Especially with the smell of his farts.

  • @Anonymous-sb9rr
    @Anonymous-sb9rr 5 місяців тому

    "He would've been absolutely exploding in size."
    That sounds like an accurate description of Eddie in his prime.

    • @grottphd9090
      @grottphd9090 5 місяців тому

      16,000 calories a day would be the diet of a person literally over a thousand pounds

    • @Heizzer47
      @Heizzer47 4 місяці тому

      the surplus is so large eddie wouldve weighed more than 500 if he actually did this

  • @TALCOHOME
    @TALCOHOME 5 місяців тому

    Really nice video!!!!

  • @N1120A
    @N1120A 4 місяці тому

    Eddie mentions in some of his videos that he's having each of his meals cooked in butter or olive oil. Obviously olive oil is as healthy a fat source as it gets, and butter is reasonable- especially if it comes from cows getting high quality feed. This likely adds a several hundred calories. I do agree that the animal fat sources could be better - why not have salmon or trout? They digest well and are calorie dense, and fish oils assist in cognitive function and repair.

  • @danielostman5805
    @danielostman5805 5 місяців тому

    I tried that calculator, i was pretty much on point. I eat between 3500-4000 calories per day just to maintain my size.