Double hilarious when you consider that Spock caught a lot of flack when first introduced back in the 1960s because he looked like "The Devil", with those pointed ears, and the eyebrows.
Diabolical marketing. My dad says they waiting like 6 months before announcing 'In Search Of Spok' knowing full well that everyone would _have_ to see it.
Small fact. As the fractal mountains were growing more or less randomly in front of the tracking camera point of view, one came up right in front of the camera. The programmers had to manually pull it down, so the camera flies through a sort of gorge or canyon instead.
The history of CGI goes back to the 1950s when mechanical computers were used to create patterns onto animation cels which were then included in a feature film. The first film which used CGI was Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo (1958).
Of course this was during the time when Ricardo Montoblan was doing the TV show Fantasy Island, funny how the characters of Khan and Mr. Roarke were so different. "Smiles everyone, smiles!"
It's crazy to realize that in canon, Khan and his crew are from the 1990s! In the alternate history the showwriters made in the 60s, there was a period where people tried to create genetically engineered superhumans in the 70s-80s. This led to something called the "Eugenics Wars." Khan ended up becoming the dictator of India, basically, but got defeated. He hijacked a spaceship to escape judgement, but this was before warp drive was invented, so he and his crew put themselves into cryofreeze to wait out the conflict.
Star Trek II, III and IV are considered the "Star Trek Trilogy" as they're one big story, so it'd be great to see your reaction to the next 2 movies - if you liked this one, you'll also enjoy those (especially part IV)
And if she likes these three, maybe go back to react to TOS, TAS and TMP, then forward to Final Frontier and Undiscovered Country, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, the TNG movies, the Kelvin movies, Discovery, Short Treks, Lower Decks, Prodigy, Picard, Strange New Worlds...it would give her a decade or two of content...
Definitely don't watch anything produced after 2005. That was when proper Star Trek ended. Everything after that is at best dumb fun schlock (the Kelvin Timeline trilogy) or at worst some of the most awful shows ever conceived of by human kind (Star Trek Discovery, Picard etc.).
In the original TV episode with Khan, Kirk and the crew picked up Khan and his people but instead of being grateful, Khan tried to forcefully take over Kirk's ship.
Extra backstory : Khan's wife was actually a member of the Enterprise's crew who joined his attempt to take over the ship. When offered the choice to go into exile or face court martial for mutiny she chooses to join Khan and the survivors of the Botany Bay on Ceti Alpha 5.
Khan's description of his previous interaction with Kirk is very self-serving and slanted. Kirk was entirely justified in depositing Khan's crew on that world. He gave Khan the choice between a trial and being taken there and it was Khan's decision.
@Intergalactic Dust Bunny They might have been slightly less enthusiastic about checking up on a group of criminals who had terrorized the whole world in the 1990s and the Enterprise in the 23rd century than they would have for ordinary colonists.
@@carm3d IIRC canonically he was on the ship at the time, just not among the bridge crew. A humorous take is that he and Khan bumped into each other at the loo:)
“Two Hundred years ago, I was a Prince” this line has two meanings. Yes following the Eugenic Wars and prelude to WW3 Kahn and his followers escaped into space a massive disgrace since he ruled the largest Empire on earth. The line also is from the Book Paradise Lost (which you can see is on the bookshelf next to King Lear, and Moby Dick) Satan after his defeat. Kahn references the book in the Episode Space Seed. To which Kirk quotes, “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven”.
This was a great reaction. It's interesting to see a reaction from someone completely unfamiliar with Star Trek. Not knowing the backstories of the characters makes you a neutral observer sort of. Spock was many peoples' favorite character and when he died back in 1982 lots of people cried. To this day Kirk's speech gets me a little misty-eyed. Spock's species, Vulcans don't show emotions generally so when Saavik cried, it showed how much Spock meant to her (although it was explained slightly differently in a deleted scene).
You have to realize 15 years earlier Khan tried to kill Kirk in a decompression chamber. I don’t find it unusual that Kirk himself didn’t check on Khan. However, Kirk would have reported marooning them there to Star fleet. He may have assumed someone else would follow up.
I've no basis for assuming this, but I don't know if Kirk told Starfleet about Khan. I think the concern was; a) Starfleet would definitely go get him for trial, destroying the agreement that Kirk had made with Khan, and; b) Khan was inherently immensely dangerous. He was bred as a soldier and conqueror, and reveled in the role. If Khan met another being, his response was to dominate it or destroy it. He was a creature that lived only in war, and would create war where-ever he went. I'm not sure Kirk trusted that Starfleet, unaccustomed to such pre-"the end of scarcity" selfish savagery, would have the ability to understand and handle the danger Khan represented. In a way, Khan was basically the Alien. No way to live with such a creature peacefully; if you're in contact, it kills you or you kill it. No middle ground.
@@michaelccozens Kirk convenes a courtroom session aboard the Enterprise and is making log entries during the episode. Starfleet knew what he did. He made a command judgement which you get a sense Starfleet authorizes their remotely operating Captain's to do. However, I don't feel he tries to actively hide things from Starfleet.
@@michaelccozens Also, with sincere respect (I know your comment is well thought out), I think it would have been a dereliction of duty for Kirk to not properly report what had occurred. Kirk may act like a cowboy sometimes, but he follows a strong code.
This movie is a sequel to the tv episode Space Seed in which Kirk and crew rescues Kahn and his genetically enhanced compatriots after being in suspended animation after escaping from a war on earth over a hundred years ago. Kahn tried to take over the ship and was defeated. Kirk left them all on a planet that has yet to be colonized but with good chances as it had all the needs a colonist would want. Kahn is played by a veteran tv actor: Ricardo Montebahn. His most famous role is host of ''Fantasy Island'. He would invite guests who would have fantasies fulfilled. The show is totally fictional but has good stories.
Spocks death was heart wrenching to people who grew up watching theTV series in the 1960s and 1970s. The the 80s hits and they get their own Trek Movies and After 20 years Spock is killed off. Part 3 and 4 are part of the story arch. Part 3 having even more death and part 4 being one of the greatest comedies of all time (yes you read that right). ;)
Like someone said, "You've taken the first steps in a larger world." Some would say, and I agree, that seeing the first and origjnal Star Trek shows from 1966 will give you a very comprehensive overview of this universe. Some may even recommend particular episodes and sequence that puts you in the know, as Spock would say, most efficiently.
So how about it? Which TOS episodes, and in what order to get our charming hostess up to speed? I admit to being a little biased toward episodes written by recognized science fiction authors, such as David Gerrold or Norman Spinrad (Trouble With Tribbles and Doomsday Machine, respectively). How about Balance Of Terror? Anything with super-powered aliens fall off my list.
I hope you enjoyed. There wasn't much exposition because Star Trek (the original series/TOS) was a long running classic TV series so they assumed viewers had some prior knowledge about vulcans, star fleet, beaming technology, the relationships of the characters etc.
"long running" More like long RErunning. The series itself was just three seasons (1966-1969, 79 episodes). But it became so popular, it continued in syndication ever since it was cancelled.
Yup the original Star Trek show and movies are in the 23rd century. Star Trek the Next Generation (7 seasons on TV and their movies) take place around 80 or so years further in the future, in the 24th centrury.
Spock was a cultural phenomenon. His repressing of emotions and focusing on logic became a tool for many therapists to help people overcome trauma, especially when the emotions hurt too much to face.
Not sure where you're getting that. You may be confusing Spock with Dr. Spock. In any case, what you're referring to is "intellectualization", and it is a coping mechanism that can often become pathological. Emotions can't be treated via logic, because they are a social/behavioural system that predates logic. Trying to deal with emotions solely with reason is more or less literally like trying to calm a frightened dog by explaining that the fireworks scaring the animal aren't really a threat. Their brains don't work like that. Trauma is the result of high stress that overwhelms the ability of the experiencer to process it at the time, causing the mind to sorta "encyst" the experience away from mundane thought. This is not without unexpected ramification on behavioural patterns, though, so treating trauma is usually a process of re-experiencing it in a gradual manner while bringing to bear the more competent coping abilities of an enlightened adult. But intellectualization is not that; it is, specifically, a way to *avoid* doing that, and, sooner or later, it always fails.
This past Sunday night will be a night I will never forget. William Shatner was here in Jacksonville. We got to see this amazing movie, had an intermission, and then the man himself spoke for an hour and a half. Even got my picture taken with him, too.
Spock's death was leaked before the movie was released. The scene where Spock "died" during the training simulation lulled people into thinking that was what was leaked so the actual death at the end really hit everyone hard.
Nicely done...especially as you came into the Star Trek "verse" cold. Spock was/is THE most iconic character of the show. This movie is a "sequel" of sorts not to the first Star Trek movie (i.e., Star Trek the Motion Picture), but to an episode of the original series from the 1960s.
When this movie was first shown some people accused Ricardo of wearing a fake chest to make himself look more buff but it was his actual physique! Mr.Montalban always tried to stay in shape and was a classy gentleman who could easily play a hero or villain!
"We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honored dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world; a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel this sacrifice a vain or empty one, and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human." (sets up a "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Is Poorly Paced" Change My Mind Table meme) This movie and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991) are better paced and intellectually deeper than the first movie, in my opinion. I've always maintained that tight writing and editing, makes for a better movie. Fun Fact: It is a Star Trek running gag that there is a Federation embargo against Romulan ale, but this still doesn't prevent resourceful people like Dr. McCoy (using "medicinal" privileges as a loophole) from procuring some for Admiral Kirk as a birthday present, and many Star Trek captains and flag officers have, over the years in Star Trek canon, viewed it as something of a status symbol. Very Real Fact: It has been widely debated that Ricardo Montalban's chest was actually a prosthetic piece that he wore during the film. In the director's commentary on the Blu-ray, Nicholas Meyer is quoted as saying that this was, in fact, Montalban's actual chest and that he was a very muscular man who worked out. During publicity for the film, during an appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (1982), Montalban explained that he was able to achieve the look seen in this film by doing "a lot of push-ups" in his words. Trek Continuity Fact: Producer Harve Bennett viewed all the episodes of Star Trek: The Original Series (1966) and chose Space Seed (1967) as the best candidate for a sequel. Spock even remarks in the script that this would be interesting to return in a hundred years or so to see what type of civilization had grown there. This is the first time a feature film was made as a sequel to a specific television series episode.
Mr. Montalban alluded to keeping very physically fit due to a horse riding accident. He did a lot of westerns back in the day and the accident left him with a permanent limp for the remainder of his life.
The story of this movie is a continuation of an episode of the original 1960s Star Trek television show. The original episode is titled "Space Seed." The story of this film continues directly in Star Trek 3.
This is my favorite star trek movie and was filmed in the year I was born 1982. The most creepiest scene when khan released the creatures into chekov and captain Tyrrell's ears
So happy to see one of my favorite reactors watching Star Trek! While my personal preferences are for The Next Generation TV cast and newer, Wrath is for sure one of the best of the movies. As a general rule, for some unknown reason, the even numbered movies in the franchise really are the best. It's really great that you took the leap, as finding a good entry point into Trek can be daunting. With something like 600 television episodes across 11 series and 13 movies thats no easy task. It's a huge universe of incredible stories and characters you'll love, hate, and love to hate. More then anything though, Star Trek is an intelligent, optimistic look at the future humanity could have if it ever gets out of it's own way. I genuinely hope you continue with the franchise.
I don’t understand y more people don’t review Star Trek films….kudos 🎉 (Khan is pronounced correctly). Btw: Botany Bay is in Australia. Ps: much of this story comes directly from Herman Melville’s masterpiece Moby Dick…several lines comes directly from the novel. For example:”to the last I stab at thee. For hates sake, I spit my last breath at thee”
Not exactly a stand-alone movie. There's history in this movie that goes all the way back to the original series from the 1960's. The Botany Bay was the name of Khan's ship. Khan was a result of genetic manipulation that resulted in a group of supermen of sorts. They were enhanced humans. They started a eugenics war. Khan and his people were some of those that escaped before being stopped. Upon being revived, they set out to conquer again. They were not victims. Kirk took it upon himself to imprison them on seti alpha 5. Spock and Savik are Vulcans, so definitely from a different world.
As others have already suggested, you probably should have watched the Space Seed from the Original series before watching this. It would have given you a better appreciation of these characters including Khan. Since you like Spock so much, you might as well check out the Original Series anyway. He is a fan favorite there. I even know some reactors who were able to grow their channel simply from watching the original show.
My father says that Ricardo Montoblan was type cast as a good guy for the most part, and when he played a villain, *and* did it so well, people were completely shocked. Nobody expected him to be so perfect in such a role. I mean, how awesome was he as Khan? Oh, and the writers and producers went silent after dropping this bomb on the Treki fandom. My dad says they waited around 6 months before announcing the sequel and freaking naming it 'In Search Of Spok' knowing full well what they were doing, all but guaranteeing that every single treki would see that movie the second it came out. It was diabolical marketing.
I saw this on VHS when I was 8 or 9. Spock dying even made me cry. The actors, director, writers and everyone knew what they were doing. When JJ Abrams "Kirk" dies in Star Trek Into Dorkiness, I felt NOTHING.
Your page popped up on my feed with one of my favorite shows so I had to watch. I am so happy you did not watch the First movie and started with this one. You have a new subscriber and I hope you will continue with this series then move on to the newer releases. Looking forward to watching more videos with you. ❤
It is really refreshing to see someone coming into this film as a "first time" experience. I was too young to see the film in theaters when it came out originally but I managed to see the third film (it was my first theater experience--well worth it). You've definitely captured the appeal of Kahn. He was a master manipulator and was able to get people to follow him even when they should have seen how ruthless he was. When he was exiled by Kirk, he felt he would be able to reign over a new master race on his own planet but instead he was forced to use every ounce of energy just to keep his people alive. You can see his resentment when he hears that Kirk was promoted to Admiral.
I saw this and the 3rd film in the movies. I guess I'm weird because I didn't cry at Spock's death (I guess I figured that he would come back (some friends told me they were making a trilogy like Star Wars was-I don't know where they got that from since the producers actually were planning on leaving it here)), but in Star Trek III (Spoilers ahead, but I know Olavity already watched it by this time), I sobbed when the Enterprise blew up. To this day, the part where the NCC # is melting on the hull gets me
I found the perspective about opening credits amusing. I have never once considered reading a few names at the beginning of a film to be any kind of burden. The concept feels quite alien to me. Another reason they used to do that was that it allowed the musical score to set the mood for the opening of the production. A fairly common practice for a very long time.
J ust so you know, Chekov who got the bug in his ear, was a regular character in the series (even though ironically he wasn't in the episode with Khan).
Hi Ola! Enjoyed your reaction. Here's a liitle history so you understand Khan. (Khan was introduced on the TV series, "Star Trek," in the episode, "Space Seed.") The Enterprise, with Kirk in command, encountered the Botany Bay, a ship from 200 years earlier, floating in space. It contained cryogenic compartments containing 72 genetically engineered people. Kirk revived them and brought them onto the Enterprise as guests. Khan, being one of the tyrannical strongmen on the earth of 200 years earlier, continued with his desire to dominate by trying to take over the Enterprise. He ultimately failed, but Kirk, in a magnanimous gesture, gave him the choice of being dropped off on a world he could conquer, instead of being imprisoned. Khan accepted and took one of the crew as his wife. At the time, the planet was hospitable. So Kirk did not impart a harsh punishment on Khan as much as a chance to mold a world to Khan's will. And Khan would be free there. Please watch the next movie because it continues the story. Enjoyed!!! :)
…”I like Spock, he has some charming charisma”… Yeah Ola, I have been IN LOVE with Mr. Spock (and the actor Leonard Nimoy) ever since I first saw him on the original Star Trek show when I was 5 years old!! 😳😄😍
It's interesting that you'd pick what is considered by many to be the best movie in the entire franchise to start your Star Trek journey. And don't worry about crying at Spock's death, I cried like a baby as well when I saw this movie in the theatre.
Spock is half human, half Vulcan. Vulcans adhere to the virtues of logic and suppress their emotions. They have some telepathic ability and can meld with another beings mind to share thoughts.
This film is based on a show from TOS 1960s “the Space Seed;” too bad u wasn’t advised to watch that first (this story is mainly based on Moby Dick; several of the lines are taken from that novel)
In the original series (made in the 1960s), Khan was a genetic "super man", and became the dictator of a good portion of the world, along with his followers (in the far future of the 1990s! lol). There was a big war and he was overthrown, but he and his followers escaped on a "sleeper ship". Kirk awakened him in the future (the 23rd century), and Khan tried to take over his ship but Kirk outwitted him, and set them down on a planet they could make their home. Spock (and that young lieutenant, Saavik) are Vulcans, an alien race that has renounced emotions and embraced logic (although Spock is half human on his mother's side, but he aspired to be as Vulcan as he could).
The character Khan (and the actor Ricardo Montalban) first appeared in the very original Star Trek show in 1967 or so. Specifically in the episode titled Space Seed. If you want to look at this extremely rich science fiction universe you cannot do better than to see the original show.
You wondered what year this is set. While it’s set “in the 23rd Century”, the year is somewhere in the 2280’s…(sometime after 2283 which was the year on the Romulan Ale that McCoy gave Kirk for his 50th birthday). This was a great reaction; not many people have done reactions to the Trek movies. To understand more about Star Trek, I hope you’ll look into episodes of the original Star Trek series from the 1960’s; as well as the next movies that feature the cast of the original series.
Kristy Alley who plays Lieutenant Saavick was indeed the mother in “Look Who”s Talking” and its 2 sequels. Not sure if you were aware or not Olavity of the sequels to “Look Who’s Talking” which if your not are “Look Who’s Talking 2” and “Look Who’s Talking Now”. Kristy Alley is well known for her role in, what i think was a fairly long running and certainly to my knowledge very popular, comedy series “Cheers”. I don’t know if your familiar with the comedy series Cheers or not either. In any event I just want to share some info about actress Kristy Alley that I thought you might find interesting assuming you weren’t already aware. Im glad your checking out the original Star Trek cast in one of their 6 feature films based on their original series. Once again I love and enjoy you UA-cam reaction channel and movie reactions.
There should be a prompt at the start of this movie directing people to watch season 1episode 22 {space Seed) of the original series before watching this movie.
Gene Roddenberry "invented" the Transporter Room. He could not figure out a way to land the USS Enterprise. The Wrath of Khan picks up where "Space Seed" left off. TV viewers did not see Chekov until Cat's Paw.
In the lore of Star Trek, Khan Noonien-Singh is responsible for somewhere around a billion deaths, most of the population of Asia at the time and was exiled from Earth for good reason.
So for context in case you either can't or don't want to watch The Original Series episode Space Seed: Khan Noonien Singh was the leader of a group of genetically enhanced humans made some time in the 1990's to lead humanity to peace in a world at war, but instead he led a revolution which erupted into what is now known in the Star Trek Lore as the Eugenics Wars. The result of this was Khan having control of roughly all of Asia and parts of Europe, until eventually humanity was able to push forward, leading Khan and his followers to commandeer the Botany Bay in the hopes of finding a new world. The Botany Bay was the first of its kind in space exploration, but had no warp core (as warp technology wasn't invented on Earth until the 2060's) so the crew would be put into cryo sleep to wait out the long journey through space. Eventually the ship would be found by Kirk and the Enterprise and Khan was revived. Soon after, Khan revived the rest of his crew with the help of a member of the Enterprise who fell in love with him, and they took over the ship. Eventually Kirk was able to take back control and exiled Khan, his crew, and the crew member who helped in the mutiny on Ceti Alpha 5, which at the time was a habitable planet with the hopes of building their own civilization, but sadly, they never had the chance as we see in Wrath of Khan. The impact of Khan was so great in the Lore that it not only shook the crew of The Enterprise, especially Spock, but would affect the future events of the timeline from the Next Generation to Deep Space Nine (highly recommend those two shows btw if you haven't seen them yet).
I got one of those random recommendations for your channel, and wondered: How you'd get on watching House of the Dragon without seeing Game of Thrones How you'd get on with Star Trek 2 without ever seeing any of the TV show. I think you did brilliantly on both counts. 'Charming charisma' - the whole character of Spock summed up in a single phrase! Hope you carry on with the whole series. From Star Trek 7 onwards it transfers to the new crew, but I don't think you'll have any trouble picking it up! Great stuff.
To understand the film well, I think you need to know a couple of things. The first is that this film derives from episode 24 of the first season of Star Trek TOS, Space Seeds... that will show you how they get to know Khan and a little more about the character and what really happens. The second is about Lieutenant Saavick. In the beginning thousands of years ago, the Vulcans were very emotional and violent people and had a war that almost annihilated them, in the end a faction was exiled from their world with the old traditions and the one that remained in Vulcan, under the teachings of their greatest sage, began to rebuild in peace, to control their passions and emotions becoming the people they are now. Spock, in fact, is the son of an of many prince of Vulcan who serves as ambassador to the Federation (the conglomerate of worlds that encompass many dozens of species with a common goal), whose capital is on Earth and a human. And that other faction that left Vulcan thousands of years ago, settled on another planet called Romulus, and now they are enemies to the death of the federation and especially of their former Vulcan brothers who rejected their own passions to embrace logic. The Vulcans through their training and severe self-control, developed certain psychic abilities, although quite limited, for what other species in the galaxy can do. But the Romulans did not develop those capacities from the moment they continued to embrace their passions and emotions sometimes in wild ways. So at some point, they drew up a plan to try to kidnap Vulcans and hybridize them with themselves to see if they could get those capabilities on the fast track and in any case, even if that failed, with the right indoctrination they could get perfect spies to enter the Federation. And on a Spock mission, he thwarted those plans and found among the survivors a girl who was part of the results of that experimental hybridization. And like Spock, although he often tries to reject that part of himself, he found that little girl more akin to himself than one might imagine, so he took her and sponsored her. And over time, the little girl wanted to follow in the footsteps of her "adoptive father" and also tried to follow the race that was not very common among Vulcans to join Starfleet. That little girl was the one who would end up being Lieutenant Saavick and that's why, apart from the fact that her connection with Spock is much more intense. Saavick is also much more emotional and even passionate than any Vulcan would be, because after all, although much of her training is Vulcan, she is still half Vulcan half Romulan. That's why she's so direct with Kirk, to some extent a bit rebellious and more conditioned to show her grief over Spock's death. There's another part of her you need to know, but I'll talk about that if you someday watch Star Trek III.
"revenge is a dish best served cold" is an old proverb going back, in some form, further than Don Quixote, but it's a bit of a running joke in Star Trek that they attribute the saying to the alien race Klingons
"He makes a choice that would only be made by a fool, a hero, or a Vulcan." Roger Ebert said that in his original review of the movie, and it fits. Vulcans are all about pure logic and mastery of their emotions, and it's coldly logical: Spock can survive long enough in the chamber to save everyone else, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
As someone else pointed out, Khan falsely blames Kirk for stranding him there. He was given the choice of a trial or staying on that planet. The wife that Khan mentions helped him take over the ship in Space Seed. Her actor was unable to reprise the role due to failing health and as such was written out of the story.
Rhue was paid a wage despite not appearing, Montalban was the one who decided on Marla dying from the Ceti eels, turning it into a revenge story, then insisted the actress be paid.
Here's the thing.... Khan is from the original Star Trek series, in an episode of which played out the series of events that he told early in the movie. The parts that Khan did not mention is how 200 years earlier(the 1990's) he and his followers were the project of genetic enigneering to make better, stronger, more inteligent people....those people then tried to take over the planet, and Khan was a ruthless dictator of about one quarter of the earth until he was finally defeated in a long war. Hence the flight from earth in the Botany Bay ship in suspended animation. He also failed to mention that once Kirk and his crew found Kahn, and revived him from this suspended animation, that he tried to kill Kirk and take over the Enterprise in order to build his empire again. So, his being marooned on that planet for 15 years was actually a VERY light sentence. So no....Khan was NO victim. Siding with him would be like siding with any other mass murderer.
I would recommend posting the first one because there will be others like me looking for it. I though I was losing my mind searching for it. It was disappointing to hear that the first one hasn't been watched yet. I hope to see it soon.
Star Trek is in an alternate timeline. In The Original Series, the Enterprise found a human sleeper ship, the SS Botany Bay, containing Khan and his companions. Khan had escaped Earth in 1996 after the Eugenics Wars in 1992 and his overthrow. Khan was a genetically engineered superhuman. Him and his companions all. Superior abilities breed superior ambition. Real life timeline simply caught up and instead of being a global conflict, it was a 3rd World shadow war and Khan was simply one of the more powerful warlords. He did escape Earth, though.
Spock and Savik are a humanoid race called Vulcans. They suppress their emotions and live their lives according to logic. They also have green blood and are stronger than humans. Spock is half-human though, as his mother was human. In the original Star Trek episode, Space Seed, that this movie is a sequel to, the Enterprise finds Khan's ship with him and all of his people in suspended animation. They wake them up, not knowing that they're genetically engineered superhumans who basically tried to conquer the Earth. They were defeated and escaped into space. Khan tries to take over the ship and threatens to kill the crew one by one, unless they help him. Kirk is freed by a female member of his crew who had originally sided with Khan, and kirk manages to defeat him and regain control. Kirk then gives Khan a choice between being taken back as a prisoner to stand trial, or being left on a habitable planet with his people. He chooses the planet, and the female crewmember goes with him. It's depicted as an amicable agreement to both sides. Contrary to this movie, Chekov doesn't actually appear in that episode and he and Khan are never shown to meet. It could be assumed to have happened off-camera though.
Excellent choice for your first voyage upon the USS Enterprise! The show was about the hope that we as human beings can overcome society's problems and prejudices, and explore together. In that way it differs fundamentally from Star Wars. The Star Trek universe is a gauntlet thrown down by Gene Roddenberry, daring us all as a spacefaring species to be better than we are. It's about us, and our promise.
Sees Vulcan for first time: "is this an elf?" lolololol
space elf
Double hilarious when you consider that Spock caught a lot of flack when first introduced back in the 1960s because he looked like "The Devil", with those pointed ears, and the eyebrows.
@@IggyStardust1967 That and he originally had red skin.
She's not an alien, she's a Vulcan-Romulan hybrid.
Spock would actually be a space half-elf
40 years old and still the best Star Trek movie ever.
@@Knight_Who_Says_Neespot on.
One of the best Sci/fi movies in general.
Diabolical marketing. My dad says they waiting like 6 months before announcing 'In Search Of Spok' knowing full well that everyone would _have_ to see it.
My top 3 has been: Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home (the one with the whales of course!), and First Contact.
The "Genesis Device" video is the first FULLY CGI rendered sequence in movie history!
Small fact. As the fractal mountains were growing more or less randomly in front of the tracking camera point of view, one came up right in front of the camera. The programmers had to manually pull it down, so the camera flies through a sort of gorge or canyon instead.
The division of ILM that did the Genesis video eventually became a separate company called PIXAR.
I did not know that. That is awesome.
The history of CGI goes back to the 1950s when mechanical computers were used to create patterns onto animation cels which were then included in a feature film. The first film which used CGI was Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo (1958).
Ricardo Montoblan was an amazing actor. He is sourly missed.
And, as the lady notes, quite the debonair swain in his time.
@@jean-paulaudette9246 Do you remember him advertising Chrysler Córdoba’s with: “Corinthian Leather?”
Of course this was during the time when Ricardo Montoblan was doing the TV show Fantasy Island, funny how the characters of Khan and Mr. Roarke were so different. "Smiles everyone, smiles!"
@@solvingpolitics3172 Deadpool does!
Sourly?
It's crazy to realize that in canon, Khan and his crew are from the 1990s!
In the alternate history the showwriters made in the 60s, there was a period where people tried to create genetically engineered superhumans in the 70s-80s. This led to something called the "Eugenics Wars." Khan ended up becoming the dictator of India, basically, but got defeated. He hijacked a spaceship to escape judgement, but this was before warp drive was invented, so he and his crew put themselves into cryofreeze to wait out the conflict.
Star Trek II, III and IV are considered the "Star Trek Trilogy" as they're one big story, so it'd be great to see your reaction to the next 2 movies - if you liked this one, you'll also enjoy those (especially part IV)
_Star Trek VI_ is also a wonderful coda to the trilogy (though you have to slog through _Star Trek V_ ) to get there.
And if she likes these three, maybe go back to react to TOS, TAS and TMP, then forward to Final Frontier and Undiscovered Country, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise, the TNG movies, the Kelvin movies, Discovery, Short Treks, Lower Decks, Prodigy, Picard, Strange New Worlds...it would give her a decade or two of content...
IV is indeed my favorite. It was my first introduction to Star Trek, it captured my soul and never let go
Definitely don't watch anything produced after 2005. That was when proper Star Trek ended. Everything after that is at best dumb fun schlock (the Kelvin Timeline trilogy) or at worst some of the most awful shows ever conceived of by human kind (Star Trek Discovery, Picard etc.).
@@BunBun299 Discovery and Picard have been a mess, but Strange New Worlds, Prodigy and Lower Decks are awesome, and Short Treks was fun.
In the original TV episode with Khan, Kirk and the crew picked up Khan and his people but instead of being grateful, Khan tried to forcefully take over Kirk's ship.
The episode was called "space seed"
Extra backstory : Khan's wife was actually a member of the Enterprise's crew who joined his attempt to take over the ship. When offered the choice to go into exile or face court martial for mutiny she chooses to join Khan and the survivors of the Botany Bay on Ceti Alpha 5.
@@Dystopia1111 yes I believe her name was Marla mcgivers
She was the enterprise's historian and from the movie the wrath of khan, khan expands that she was killed by a creature on ceti alpha 6
Khan's introduction,
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Khan's description of his previous interaction with Kirk is very self-serving and slanted. Kirk was entirely justified in depositing Khan's crew on that world. He gave Khan the choice between a trial and being taken there and it was Khan's decision.
Chekhov's depiction was very much on point. "He was your host, and you tried to take his ship and murder him".
@Intergalactic Dust Bunny They might have been slightly less enthusiastic about checking up on a group of criminals who had terrorized the whole world in the 1990s and the Enterprise in the 23rd century than they would have for ordinary colonists.
@@boristurovskiy351 Impressive considering Chekhov wasn't even in that original episode.
@@carm3d IIRC canonically he was on the ship at the time, just not among the bridge crew. A humorous take is that he and Khan bumped into each other at the loo:)
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Khan never forgets a persons face, or the smell of their poop.
“Two Hundred years ago, I was a Prince” this line has two meanings. Yes following the Eugenic Wars and prelude to WW3 Kahn and his followers escaped into space a massive disgrace since he ruled the largest Empire on earth. The line also is from the Book Paradise Lost (which you can see is on the bookshelf next to King Lear, and Moby Dick) Satan after his defeat. Kahn references the book in the Episode Space Seed. To which Kirk quotes, “Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven”.
actually it was Kirk who delivers that line in TOS episode after Khan asks if he is familiar with Milton.
@@Nexusofgeek That is true, but Khan did quote Paradise Lost and Moby Dick in this movie as well
It makes me very happy as a Trekkie to see a reactor watch Star Trek before Star Wars for the first time lol
hell yes.
That's why I requested it
@@chrisby30 Awesome job!
Me watching this movie a billion times over 30 years: "I have been and always shall be your friend" instant tears
The people with pointed ears are aliens known as Vulcans. They are one of several alien races who, along with humans, inhabit the Federation.
This was a great reaction. It's interesting to see a reaction from someone completely unfamiliar with Star Trek. Not knowing the backstories of the characters makes you a neutral observer sort of.
Spock was many peoples' favorite character and when he died back in 1982 lots of people cried. To this day Kirk's speech gets me a little misty-eyed. Spock's species, Vulcans don't show emotions generally so when Saavik cried, it showed how much Spock meant to her (although it was explained slightly differently in a deleted scene).
You have to realize 15 years earlier Khan tried to kill Kirk in a decompression chamber. I don’t find it unusual that Kirk himself didn’t check on Khan. However, Kirk would have reported marooning them there to Star fleet. He may have assumed someone else would follow up.
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@@GGGritzer Whoops. I fixed it.
I've no basis for assuming this, but I don't know if Kirk told Starfleet about Khan. I think the concern was; a) Starfleet would definitely go get him for trial, destroying the agreement that Kirk had made with Khan, and; b) Khan was inherently immensely dangerous. He was bred as a soldier and conqueror, and reveled in the role. If Khan met another being, his response was to dominate it or destroy it. He was a creature that lived only in war, and would create war where-ever he went. I'm not sure Kirk trusted that Starfleet, unaccustomed to such pre-"the end of scarcity" selfish savagery, would have the ability to understand and handle the danger Khan represented.
In a way, Khan was basically the Alien. No way to live with such a creature peacefully; if you're in contact, it kills you or you kill it. No middle ground.
@@michaelccozens Kirk convenes a courtroom session aboard the Enterprise and is making log entries during the episode. Starfleet knew what he did. He made a command judgement which you get a sense Starfleet authorizes their remotely operating Captain's to do. However, I don't feel he tries to actively hide things from Starfleet.
@@michaelccozens Also, with sincere respect (I know your comment is well thought out), I think it would have been a dereliction of duty for Kirk to not properly report what had occurred. Kirk may act like a cowboy sometimes, but he follows a strong code.
This movie is a sequel to the tv episode Space Seed in which Kirk and crew rescues Kahn and his genetically enhanced compatriots after being in suspended animation after escaping from a war on earth over a hundred years ago. Kahn tried to take over the ship and was defeated. Kirk left them all on a planet that has yet to be colonized but with good chances as it had all the needs a colonist would want. Kahn is played by a veteran tv actor: Ricardo Montebahn. His most famous role is host of ''Fantasy Island'. He would invite guests who would have fantasies fulfilled. The show is totally fictional but has good stories.
Spocks death was heart wrenching to people who grew up watching theTV series in the 1960s and 1970s. The the 80s hits and they get their own Trek Movies and After 20 years Spock is killed off. Part 3 and 4 are part of the story arch. Part 3 having even more death and part 4 being one of the greatest comedies of all time (yes you read that right). ;)
That ending is one of the best.
Like someone said, "You've taken the first steps in a larger world." Some would say, and I agree, that seeing the first and origjnal Star Trek shows from 1966 will give you a very comprehensive overview of this universe. Some may even recommend particular episodes and sequence that puts you in the know, as Spock would say, most efficiently.
So how about it? Which TOS episodes, and in what order to get our charming hostess up to speed? I admit to being a little biased toward episodes written by recognized science fiction authors, such as David Gerrold or Norman Spinrad (Trouble With Tribbles and Doomsday Machine, respectively). How about Balance Of Terror? Anything with super-powered aliens fall off my list.
Pretty much all of season 1 and 2. But season 3 ehhhhhhh Enterprise Incident is good.
@@mrwidget42 The Menagerie.
It’s easer to list the episodes to avoid than the ones to watch.
@@mrwidget42 "The City on the Edge of Forever"
I hope you enjoyed. There wasn't much exposition because Star Trek (the original series/TOS) was a long running classic TV series so they assumed viewers had some prior knowledge about vulcans, star fleet, beaming technology, the relationships of the characters etc.
"long running"
More like long RErunning. The series itself was just three seasons (1966-1969, 79 episodes). But it became so popular, it continued in syndication ever since it was cancelled.
Great reaction! Your emotions and feelings reflected all of ours when we first saw this in 1982.
Absolutely! Spock's death was a heartbreaker for 10 year old me
It's taking place in the late 2280s.
Spock and Saavik are Vulcans.
Yup the original Star Trek show and movies are in the 23rd century. Star Trek the Next Generation (7 seasons on TV and their movies) take place around 80 or so years further in the future, in the 24th centrury.
Spock was a cultural phenomenon. His repressing of emotions and focusing on logic became a tool for many therapists to help people overcome trauma, especially when the emotions hurt too much to face.
Not sure where you're getting that. You may be confusing Spock with Dr. Spock. In any case, what you're referring to is "intellectualization", and it is a coping mechanism that can often become pathological. Emotions can't be treated via logic, because they are a social/behavioural system that predates logic. Trying to deal with emotions solely with reason is more or less literally like trying to calm a frightened dog by explaining that the fireworks scaring the animal aren't really a threat. Their brains don't work like that.
Trauma is the result of high stress that overwhelms the ability of the experiencer to process it at the time, causing the mind to sorta "encyst" the experience away from mundane thought. This is not without unexpected ramification on behavioural patterns, though, so treating trauma is usually a process of re-experiencing it in a gradual manner while bringing to bear the more competent coping abilities of an enlightened adult. But intellectualization is not that; it is, specifically, a way to *avoid* doing that, and, sooner or later, it always fails.
Remember 'In the 23rd Century'
This past Sunday night will be a night I will never forget. William Shatner was here in Jacksonville. We got to see this amazing movie, had an intermission, and then the man himself spoke for an hour and a half. Even got my picture taken with him, too.
Spock's death was leaked before the movie was released.
The scene where Spock "died" during the training simulation lulled people into thinking that was what was leaked so the actual death at the end really hit everyone hard.
So many questions! Several species of people have pointy ears, most notably Vulcan and Romulan. Welcome to the Treky Universe! 😁
The people with the pointy ears are called Vulcans
I see you watching the director's cut
Nicely done...especially as you came into the Star Trek "verse" cold. Spock was/is THE most iconic character of the show. This movie is a "sequel" of sorts not to the first Star Trek movie (i.e., Star Trek the Motion Picture), but to an episode of the original series from the 1960s.
When this movie was first shown some people accused Ricardo of wearing a fake chest to make himself look more buff but it was his actual physique! Mr.Montalban always tried to stay in shape and was a classy gentleman who could easily play a hero or villain!
"We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honored dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world; a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel this sacrifice a vain or empty one, and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human."
(sets up a "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) Is Poorly Paced" Change My Mind Table meme)
This movie and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country (1991) are better paced and intellectually deeper than the first movie, in my opinion. I've always maintained that tight writing and editing, makes for a better movie.
Fun Fact: It is a Star Trek running gag that there is a Federation embargo against Romulan ale, but this still doesn't prevent resourceful people like Dr. McCoy (using "medicinal" privileges as a loophole) from procuring some for Admiral Kirk as a birthday present, and many Star Trek captains and flag officers have, over the years in Star Trek canon, viewed it as something of a status symbol.
Very Real Fact: It has been widely debated that Ricardo Montalban's chest was actually a prosthetic piece that he wore during the film. In the director's commentary on the Blu-ray, Nicholas Meyer is quoted as saying that this was, in fact, Montalban's actual chest and that he was a very muscular man who worked out. During publicity for the film, during an appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson (1982), Montalban explained that he was able to achieve the look seen in this film by doing "a lot of push-ups" in his words.
Trek Continuity Fact: Producer Harve Bennett viewed all the episodes of Star Trek: The Original Series (1966) and chose Space Seed (1967) as the best candidate for a sequel. Spock even remarks in the script that this would be interesting to return in a hundred years or so to see what type of civilization had grown there. This is the first time a feature film was made as a sequel to a specific television series episode.
You do know, don't you, that the first Star Trek movie is often called, Star Trek: The Motionless Picture?
@@Mitheledh, Director's Edition is better. But it's the worst of the original 6.
Mr. Montalban alluded to keeping very physically fit due to a horse riding accident. He did a lot of westerns back in the day and the accident left him with a permanent limp for the remainder of his life.
The first 50 yrs of films the credits were in the beginning & at the end it simply said “the end”
One of my favorites. 'his was the most... human' still gets me all these years later.
The story of this movie is a continuation of an episode of the original 1960s Star Trek television show. The original episode is titled "Space Seed."
The story of this film continues directly in Star Trek 3.
This is my favorite star trek movie and was filmed in the year I was born 1982. The most creepiest scene when khan released the creatures into chekov and captain Tyrrell's ears
That's just like me and the first Star Wars. I was born in March of 1977 and Star Wars came out just two months later.
Filming was completed in November 1981
I saw this in the movies. My mom almost took me out of the theatre at that scene (I was 7)
Her reactions are making me want to watch this movie right now, regardless of how many times I've seen this movie
I watch it at least twice a year. It is my favorite with First Contact being my second favorite
So happy to see one of my favorite reactors watching Star Trek! While my personal preferences are for The Next Generation TV cast and newer, Wrath is for sure one of the best of the movies. As a general rule, for some unknown reason, the even numbered movies in the franchise really are the best. It's really great that you took the leap, as finding a good entry point into Trek can be daunting. With something like 600 television episodes across 11 series and 13 movies thats no easy task. It's a huge universe of incredible stories and characters you'll love, hate, and love to hate. More then anything though, Star Trek is an intelligent, optimistic look at the future humanity could have if it ever gets out of it's own way. I genuinely hope you continue with the franchise.
I think ST3 gets a bit underrated. Debut for the Klingon Bird of Prey, that will forever be one of the sweetest ship designs in sci-fi history.
@@Dystopia1111, also Christopher Lloyd's narcissistic Kruge was awesome!
There is no CGI in this movie. EXCEPT the Genesis Device presentation was the first use of CGI in a movie ever!
I don’t understand y more people don’t review Star Trek films….kudos 🎉 (Khan is pronounced correctly). Btw: Botany Bay is in Australia. Ps: much of this story comes directly from Herman Melville’s masterpiece Moby Dick…several lines comes directly from the novel. For example:”to the last I stab at thee. For hates sake, I spit my last breath at thee”
I grew up 10ks from Botany Bay in Sydney haha. Used to go fishing there!
Moby Dick’s a fantastic book. Powerful…
Not exactly a stand-alone movie. There's history in this movie that goes all the way back to the original series from the 1960's. The Botany Bay was the name of Khan's ship. Khan was a result of genetic manipulation that resulted in a group of supermen of sorts. They were enhanced humans. They started a eugenics war. Khan and his people were some of those that escaped before being stopped. Upon being revived, they set out to conquer again. They were not victims. Kirk took it upon himself to imprison them on seti alpha 5. Spock and Savik are Vulcans, so definitely from a different world.
Considered to be the best Star Trek movie in the series.
Agreed!
Unless you count "First Contact" as part of the series.
@@brandonflorida1092 Valid point, my second favorite!
I truly believe The Motion Picture is the best. But this one is second.
Agreed, although I admit I have a soft spot of sorts for Star Trek: Insurrection as I view it as the most morally complex of all the films to date.
I love how quickly you "got" Spock. Some of us have idolized Spock for more than fifty years.
You don't "get" Spock... You "grok" Spock.
"Khaaaaaaaaan!" That pretty much sums up this movie.
You now REALLY need to see the rest of this trilogy of III & IV !
As others have already suggested, you probably should have watched the Space Seed from the Original series before watching this. It would have given you a better appreciation of these characters including Khan. Since you like Spock so much, you might as well check out the Original Series anyway. He is a fan favorite there. I even know some reactors who were able to grow their channel simply from watching the original show.
1:41 Correct! I think a lot of people sometimes dismiss how important a score is for a film. It's so important!
Great reaction by the way!
what a great reaction, great film!! i still get tears at the end
The actor playing Khan (Ricardo Montalban) was about 60 to 61 years old. His muscles are all nature
I really enjoyed watching this movie with you, thank you Olavity.
My father says that Ricardo Montoblan was type cast as a good guy for the most part, and when he played a villain, *and* did it so well, people were completely shocked. Nobody expected him to be so perfect in such a role. I mean, how awesome was he as Khan? Oh, and the writers and producers went silent after dropping this bomb on the Treki fandom. My dad says they waited around 6 months before announcing the sequel and freaking naming it 'In Search Of Spok' knowing full well what they were doing, all but guaranteeing that every single treki would see that movie the second it came out. It was diabolical marketing.
I just love the way you come to the conclusion that Kirk Frakked up!
I saw this on VHS when I was 8 or 9. Spock dying even made me cry. The actors, director, writers and everyone knew what they were doing. When JJ Abrams "Kirk" dies in Star Trek Into Dorkiness, I felt NOTHING.
Your page popped up on my feed with one of my favorite shows so I had to watch. I am so happy you did not watch the First movie and started with this one. You have a new subscriber and I hope you will continue with this series then move on to the newer releases. Looking forward to watching more videos with you. ❤
It is really refreshing to see someone coming into this film as a "first time" experience. I was too young to see the film in theaters when it came out originally but I managed to see the third film (it was my first theater experience--well worth it). You've definitely captured the appeal of Kahn. He was a master manipulator and was able to get people to follow him even when they should have seen how ruthless he was. When he was exiled by Kirk, he felt he would be able to reign over a new master race on his own planet but instead he was forced to use every ounce of energy just to keep his people alive. You can see his resentment when he hears that Kirk was promoted to Admiral.
I saw this and the 3rd film in the movies. I guess I'm weird because I didn't cry at Spock's death (I guess I figured that he would come back (some friends told me they were making a trilogy like Star Wars was-I don't know where they got that from since the producers actually were planning on leaving it here)), but in Star Trek III (Spoilers ahead, but I know Olavity already watched it by this time), I sobbed when the Enterprise blew up. To this day, the part where the NCC # is melting on the hull gets me
The Kobayashi Maru is a training exercise of a "no-win scenario" to test a cadet.
I found the perspective about opening credits amusing. I have never once considered reading a few names at the beginning of a film to be any kind of burden. The concept feels quite alien to me. Another reason they used to do that was that it allowed the musical score to set the mood for the opening of the production. A fairly common practice for a very long time.
J ust so you know, Chekov who got the bug in his ear, was a regular character in the series (even though ironically he wasn't in the episode with Khan).
Hi Ola! Enjoyed your reaction. Here's a liitle history so you understand Khan. (Khan was introduced on the TV series, "Star Trek," in the episode, "Space Seed.")
The Enterprise, with Kirk in command, encountered the Botany Bay, a ship from 200 years earlier, floating in space. It contained cryogenic compartments containing 72 genetically engineered people. Kirk revived them and brought them onto the Enterprise as guests. Khan, being one of the tyrannical strongmen on the earth of 200 years earlier, continued with his desire to dominate by trying to take over the Enterprise.
He ultimately failed, but Kirk, in a magnanimous gesture, gave him the choice of being dropped off on a world he could conquer, instead of being imprisoned. Khan accepted and took one of the crew as his wife. At the time, the planet was hospitable. So Kirk did not impart a harsh punishment on Khan as much as a chance to mold a world to Khan's will. And Khan would be free there.
Please watch the next movie because it continues the story. Enjoyed!!! :)
In Trek earth history Khan was a brutal dictator. Kirk had good reason for stranding him and his augments.
Late Leonard Nimoy (Spock) and Kristie Alley (Savik) are from planet Vulcan: Vulcans. Vulcans' species are advanced aliens that help Earth in space.
"You better tell them. They need snacks with storytime." 🤣
…”I like Spock, he has some charming charisma”…
Yeah Ola,
I have been IN LOVE with Mr. Spock (and the actor Leonard Nimoy) ever since I first saw him on the original Star Trek show when I was 5 years old!!
😳😄😍
It's interesting that you'd pick what is considered by many to be the best movie in the entire franchise to start your Star Trek journey. And don't worry about crying at Spock's death, I cried like a baby as well when I saw this movie in the theatre.
Spock is half human, half Vulcan. Vulcans adhere to the virtues of logic and suppress their emotions. They have some telepathic ability and can meld with another beings mind to share thoughts.
This film is based on a show from TOS 1960s “the Space Seed;” too bad u wasn’t advised to watch that first (this story is mainly based on Moby Dick; several of the lines are taken from that novel)
In the original series (made in the 1960s), Khan was a genetic "super man", and became the dictator of a good portion of the world, along with his followers (in the far future of the 1990s! lol). There was a big war and he was overthrown, but he and his followers escaped on a "sleeper ship". Kirk awakened him in the future (the 23rd century), and Khan tried to take over his ship but Kirk outwitted him, and set them down on a planet they could make their home.
Spock (and that young lieutenant, Saavik) are Vulcans, an alien race that has renounced emotions and embraced logic (although Spock is half human on his mother's side, but he aspired to be as Vulcan as he could).
The character Khan (and the actor Ricardo Montalban) first appeared in the very original Star Trek show in 1967 or so. Specifically in the episode titled Space Seed. If you want to look at this extremely rich science fiction universe you cannot do better than to see the original show.
You wondered what year this is set. While it’s set “in the 23rd Century”, the year is somewhere in the 2280’s…(sometime after 2283 which was the year on the Romulan Ale that McCoy gave Kirk for his 50th birthday).
This was a great reaction; not many people have done reactions to the Trek movies. To understand more about Star Trek, I hope you’ll look into episodes of the original Star Trek series from the 1960’s; as well as the next movies that feature the cast of the original series.
Kristy Alley who plays Lieutenant Saavick was indeed the mother in “Look Who”s Talking” and its 2 sequels. Not sure if you were aware or not Olavity of the sequels to “Look Who’s Talking” which if your not are “Look Who’s Talking 2” and “Look Who’s Talking Now”. Kristy Alley is well known for her role in, what i think was a fairly long running and certainly to my knowledge very popular, comedy series “Cheers”. I don’t know if your familiar with the comedy series Cheers or not either. In any event I just want to share some info about actress Kristy Alley that I thought you might find interesting assuming you weren’t already aware. Im glad your checking out the original Star Trek cast in one of their 6 feature films based on their original series. Once again I love and enjoy you UA-cam reaction channel and movie reactions.
There should be a prompt at the start of this movie directing people to watch season 1episode 22 {space Seed) of the original series before watching this movie.
Gene Roddenberry "invented" the Transporter Room. He could not figure out a way to land the USS Enterprise. The Wrath of Khan picks up where "Space Seed" left off. TV viewers did not see Chekov until Cat's Paw.
I love her innocent perspective on this movie
The "Project Genesis" summary contains the first CGI ( Computer Graphics Interface ) in a movie.
Adorable, accurate and awesome review.
"Really, show him what?" You had a naughty thought. lol
In the lore of Star Trek, Khan Noonien-Singh is responsible for somewhere around a billion deaths, most of the population of Asia at the time and was exiled from Earth for good reason.
So for context in case you either can't or don't want to watch The Original Series episode Space Seed:
Khan Noonien Singh was the leader of a group of genetically enhanced humans made some time in the 1990's to lead humanity to peace in a world at war, but instead he led a revolution which erupted into what is now known in the Star Trek Lore as the Eugenics Wars. The result of this was Khan having control of roughly all of Asia and parts of Europe, until eventually humanity was able to push forward, leading Khan and his followers to commandeer the Botany Bay in the hopes of finding a new world. The Botany Bay was the first of its kind in space exploration, but had no warp core (as warp technology wasn't invented on Earth until the 2060's) so the crew would be put into cryo sleep to wait out the long journey through space. Eventually the ship would be found by Kirk and the Enterprise and Khan was revived. Soon after, Khan revived the rest of his crew with the help of a member of the Enterprise who fell in love with him, and they took over the ship. Eventually Kirk was able to take back control and exiled Khan, his crew, and the crew member who helped in the mutiny on Ceti Alpha 5, which at the time was a habitable planet with the hopes of building their own civilization, but sadly, they never had the chance as we see in Wrath of Khan.
The impact of Khan was so great in the Lore that it not only shook the crew of The Enterprise, especially Spock, but would affect the future events of the timeline from the Next Generation to Deep Space Nine (highly recommend those two shows btw if you haven't seen them yet).
I got one of those random recommendations for your channel, and wondered:
How you'd get on watching House of the Dragon without seeing Game of Thrones
How you'd get on with Star Trek 2 without ever seeing any of the TV show.
I think you did brilliantly on both counts. 'Charming charisma' - the whole character of Spock summed up in a single phrase! Hope you carry on with the whole series. From Star Trek 7 onwards it transfers to the new crew, but I don't think you'll have any trouble picking it up!
Great stuff.
The creature is called a ceti eel, in which the mother carries the larvae in her plates on her back
To understand the film well, I think you need to know a couple of things. The first is that this film derives from episode 24 of the first season of Star Trek TOS, Space Seeds... that will show you how they get to know Khan and a little more about the character and what really happens.
The second is about Lieutenant Saavick.
In the beginning thousands of years ago, the Vulcans were very emotional and violent people and had a war that almost annihilated them, in the end a faction was exiled from their world with the old traditions and the one that remained in Vulcan, under the teachings of their greatest sage, began to rebuild in peace, to control their passions and emotions becoming the people they are now.
Spock, in fact, is the son of an of many prince of Vulcan who serves as ambassador to the Federation (the conglomerate of worlds that encompass many dozens of species with a common goal), whose capital is on Earth and a human.
And that other faction that left Vulcan thousands of years ago, settled on another planet called Romulus, and now they are enemies to the death of the federation and especially of their former Vulcan brothers who rejected their own passions to embrace logic.
The Vulcans through their training and severe self-control, developed certain psychic abilities, although quite limited, for what other species in the galaxy can do. But the Romulans did not develop those capacities from the moment they continued to embrace their passions and emotions sometimes in wild ways.
So at some point, they drew up a plan to try to kidnap Vulcans and hybridize them with themselves to see if they could get those capabilities on the fast track and in any case, even if that failed, with the right indoctrination they could get perfect spies to enter the Federation. And on a Spock mission, he thwarted those plans and found among the survivors a girl who was part of the results of that experimental hybridization. And like Spock, although he often tries to reject that part of himself, he found that little girl more akin to himself than one might imagine, so he took her and sponsored her. And over time, the little girl wanted to follow in the footsteps of her "adoptive father" and also tried to follow the race that was not very common among Vulcans to join Starfleet.
That little girl was the one who would end up being Lieutenant Saavick and that's why, apart from the fact that her connection with Spock is much more intense. Saavick is also much more emotional and even passionate than any Vulcan would be, because after all, although much of her training is Vulcan, she is still half Vulcan half Romulan. That's why she's so direct with Kirk, to some extent a bit rebellious and more conditioned to show her grief over Spock's death.
There's another part of her you need to know, but I'll talk about that if you someday watch Star Trek III.
The episode is called "Space Seed" of the original Star Trek TV series. You should be able to find it if you have an already done so.
"revenge is a dish best served cold" is an old proverb going back, in some form, further than Don Quixote, but it's a bit of a running joke in Star Trek that they attribute the saying to the alien race Klingons
I have always loved this movie. I watched reruns of the the original series when I was very young, and this is a great extension of those shows.
You did Star Trek II, you now have to do III and IV. You are going to really enjoy Star Trek IV.
This movie is a continuing from the original series episode back in 1967 called "Space Seed"
"He makes a choice that would only be made by a fool, a hero, or a Vulcan." Roger Ebert said that in his original review of the movie, and it fits. Vulcans are all about pure logic and mastery of their emotions, and it's coldly logical: Spock can survive long enough in the chamber to save everyone else, and the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
OMG I love your Snoopy shirt!
As someone else pointed out, Khan falsely blames Kirk for stranding him there. He was given the choice of a trial or staying on that planet. The wife that Khan mentions helped him take over the ship in Space Seed. Her actor was unable to reprise the role due to failing health and as such was written out of the story.
Rhue was paid a wage despite not appearing, Montalban was the one who decided on Marla dying from the Ceti eels, turning it into a revenge story, then insisted the actress be paid.
@@GGGritzer Ricardo seems like a real one.
Here's the thing.... Khan is from the original Star Trek series, in an episode of which played out the series of events that he told early in the movie. The parts that Khan did not mention is how 200 years earlier(the 1990's) he and his followers were the project of genetic enigneering to make better, stronger, more inteligent people....those people then tried to take over the planet, and Khan was a ruthless dictator of about one quarter of the earth until he was finally defeated in a long war. Hence the flight from earth in the Botany Bay ship in suspended animation. He also failed to mention that once Kirk and his crew found Kahn, and revived him from this suspended animation, that he tried to kill Kirk and take over the Enterprise in order to build his empire again. So, his being marooned on that planet for 15 years was actually a VERY light sentence. So no....Khan was NO victim. Siding with him would be like siding with any other mass murderer.
I would recommend posting the first one because there will be others like me looking for it. I though I was losing my mind searching for it. It was disappointing to hear that the first one hasn't been watched yet. I hope to see it soon.
This way the first Star Trek movie I ever saw but only on TV although I saw some of the others in cinemas.
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Stark Trek is set some 300 years into the future.
This is the best of all the Star Trek movies
This one is the money. Star Tre VI The Undiscovered Country is pretty great too. Same writer and director on both of those ones.
Welcome to the Star Trek universe! Hope you react to more movies from the franchise!
Star Trek is in an alternate timeline. In The Original Series, the Enterprise found a human sleeper ship, the SS Botany Bay, containing Khan and his companions. Khan had escaped Earth in 1996 after the Eugenics Wars in 1992 and his overthrow. Khan was a genetically engineered superhuman. Him and his companions all. Superior abilities breed superior ambition.
Real life timeline simply caught up and instead of being a global conflict, it was a 3rd World shadow war and Khan was simply one of the more powerful warlords. He did escape Earth, though.
Her reactions are priceless!
Spock and Savik are a humanoid race called Vulcans. They suppress their emotions and live their lives according to logic. They also have green blood and are stronger than humans. Spock is half-human though, as his mother was human.
In the original Star Trek episode, Space Seed, that this movie is a sequel to, the Enterprise finds Khan's ship with him and all of his people in suspended animation. They wake them up, not knowing that they're genetically engineered superhumans who basically tried to conquer the Earth. They were defeated and escaped into space. Khan tries to take over the ship and threatens to kill the crew one by one, unless they help him. Kirk is freed by a female member of his crew who had originally sided with Khan, and kirk manages to defeat him and regain control. Kirk then gives Khan a choice between being taken back as a prisoner to stand trial, or being left on a habitable planet with his people. He chooses the planet, and the female crewmember goes with him. It's depicted as an amicable agreement to both sides.
Contrary to this movie, Chekov doesn't actually appear in that episode and he and Khan are never shown to meet. It could be assumed to have happened off-camera though.
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Excellent choice for your first voyage upon the USS Enterprise! The show was about the hope that we as human beings can overcome society's problems and prejudices, and explore together. In that way it differs fundamentally from Star Wars. The Star Trek universe is a gauntlet thrown down by Gene Roddenberry, daring us all as a spacefaring species to be better than we are. It's about us, and our promise.