BEST AMMO FOR HOME DEFENSE | Tactical Rifleman
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2023
- We often talk about ammo for different purposes during our Tactical Tuesday Livestreams. A favorite topic in Home defense; so I mentioned let's test YOUR ammo. I had a few of YOU, our viewers, send in their personal "Home Defense" ammo for their AR rifles.
These were all great choices for home defense. Everyone has an opinion, and everyone's personal situation is different. My home is different from yours.
Sabre Black Tip, Hornady Critical Defense, and Minuteman Frangible are all excellent choices.
Big thanks to these three great companies for putting out great ammo and big thanks to our viewers for sending us some of their personal stash.
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RIP to the hornet that got smashed by the Hornady round.
He actually flew away… the second bounce of the block freed the wasp.
@@TacticalRiflemanDamnit. I was gonna say we should start calling that ammo De-Hornet instead.
came here to say this
That opening killed me
It killed the hornet too.
Almost in tears
I've always like the thought of varmint ammo for home defense personally.
Makes sense, varmint ammo is for varmints, right!
4 legs or 2, dudn't matter.
@3gunshooter60 I've shot small game and various sized water bottles with it. Damn near blew an armadillo up once with it. If it does thar then I'm confident a round to an arm or shoulder would be catastrophic, even more so on in the torso. I think it has the potential to remove limbs and hunks of meat. Obviously as well as a shotgun but I mean with a binary trigger and a 30 round or 60 round mag you have to admit that's pretty adequate.
I got into a back and forth with a guy over 10mm. His side was 180 grain rounds were ideal for carry rounds and my side was use the 10mm advantage and put light fast rounds that dump all energy in a very short distance. Then.as usual he went into what if they are sideways and you have to shoot through an arm. We'll sir that arm would be disabled or potential no longer attached.
@@3gunshooter60that’s exactly what I was thinking when I seen this comment😂
Karl, this is exactly why I've been a loyal subscriber to your channel, the information you give us is more detailed, and complete. Other channels just scratch the surface with basic info, which doesn't help the more advanced and skilled shooters, but yours does. Keep up the great content brother. THanks
Since we're strictly talking home defense, an informative video would be to combine this one with you older "Ballistics through Walls" test, specifically the drywall portion. Take the typical drywall setup with a gel block behind it and shoot various popular and home defense rounds. Rounds like M193, M855, 855A1,TAP, ELD, LEHIGH DEFENSE, RazorCore, etc. It would be very informative to see how these rounds reacted after they passed through drywall.
Garand thumb has one similar
Shawn Ryan did a whole video about that
Every bullet is going through drywall. Understand your backstops and where your neighbors are. Plan your shooting lanes before hand in case of a home defence situation.
@@Ren-lx8wvyea-& be sure to ask the intruder to step a little to the right so he can give you a perfect shot😂
I second this.
It's hard to believe, but a 10.3 , 11.5 , 12" with less velocity are more likely to over penatrait than the 13.7 , 14.5 , and 16". Which ragments much sooner due too their higher velocity. "Tactical Hive" Coch demonstrates of each of the barrel lengths proving this out in testing using reems of paper . The 11.5" with a velocity of 2816 fps went through 4 reems, while the 16" at 3032 fps had total fragmentation in only 2 reems of paper . The test can be found on T.H. channel .
There's an unbelievable amount of home defense ammo options for today's protector. The sky's the limit on the stuff you can use. Makes me think the criminals should choose a different career path.
Why should they choose a different career path? Criminals are a protected class in many states, unlike the law abiding tax payer.
@@wcoonradt264 That's the fallacy of liberal, leftism. If there are criminal rights to such a degree that those rights ruin the lives of the innocent. Then you don't have property rights, the are no rights for any others. If laws are to control the activities of people. Meaning no rights for those that live well with others. Then the entire structure of society will collapse into anarchy. And that's exactly what is part of of asymmetrical warfare. This what the communist movement has done in America. Working in colleges and the elementary school systems to make systemic changes in American society. To denigrate all aspects of American society. See all the brainwashed young people demanding a conception of an evil Israel as colonialist exploitation of Palestinine. If so isn't Russia a colonialist power exploiting Ukraine? Damaging Ukraine by the Holodomor mass starvation.
That's what bad about allowing bad people that use criminality as a functioning activity in their lives with no repercussions. A kind of robbing Peter to pay Paul. America looks to have fundamental fairness in social relations. Criminals are only looking to satisfy impulsive, immediate needs. Where is your fundamental fairness if a few are allowed to unduly exploit others at the expense of others without repercussions?
Sky's the limit on price apparently
More likely is the government at your door vs a criminal.
They are not smart enough to use logic👍
Death row inmates for the win!😂Smiley face crying! Great video, thanks Karl!
Another great video, straight to the point no bs , keep up the good work brother God bless 💪💪👍👍
this would make a good series of videos featuring different calibers for each video
Thank you Karl once again great information.
My pleasure!
Thank you for sharing with us 😊 very important
Thanks Karl
Once again good video. You brought light ro allot of facts
I really appreciate the clear and no nonsense presentation, fact based and objective data, no click bait or emotional embellishment and most of all thanks Karl for videos that don't have cursing or bad language. I watch these with my kids around and they can learn something in the process. Greetings from Canada
Personally, I keep 55gr Speer gold Dots' in all of my rifles 😊
@@jessetate3110 I keep Nosler Varmageddons 55gr and Hornady Superformance with VMAX. I have Gold Dot 223s as well but those are in the loadout. Would be interesting to know whether law enforcement overall has preferences. I know some brands will say law enforcement, but whether LE actually uses those is another story
Great explanation of different products for different applications.
Glad it was helpful!
Because of your past reviews of frangible ammo, I switched over my home defense ammo to frangible a couple of years ago. Its just good peace of mind should the worst scenario present itself via a home intruder.
Thanks, Karl! I'm a huge fan of AAC ammo. All the varieties I've used were accurate, reliable and really superbly priced. I don't use much else although I do keep and use a bit of Black Hills and Underwood for certain applications.
I have tried a good bit of it also with pretty good outcomes.
I love their ammo. I wouldn’t use it for home defense though. 1 out of 75 shots will not go off.
Thank you, sir.
Always the best information! Clear, pertinent, experienced and well presented. Why I wear your sweatshirts.
His information is real
Thanks for this. Especially emphasizing over-penetration as a concern.
Glad it was helpful!
The Hornady Critical defense runs extremely well and accurately in my 14.5-inch (P&W fed bois) 1-7 barrels. On precaution, try not to mix the 73s with the 55-grain version.
Why not mix the 73g with 55g?
@@Chrismith Point of aim shift for one. The 73-grain don't fly as well as the 55-grain out of my 1-12 barrels either.
Bought some frangible 9mm. I’ll be looking for the 5.56 next with HP as well. Thank you Karl
Very helpful. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
I've settled on Hornady Subsonic 190gr Sub-X for a 10.5" suppressed blackout. Good round capacity, ballistics and maneuverability to meet most threats without overpenetration.
@gray matter. What gastube length do you have , pistol or mid length?
pistol@@briankudalis9572
I bought some Makers Rex 220gr expanding subs to hand load, I like going as heavy as possible for subs for max energy delivered. For factory loads though the Sub-X is probably the best route. 300blk subs will be PLENTY and save your hearing. As long as the intruder isn't using lvl4 plates it will stop them at close range very well. Coming out of a 9"BCM upper and a surefire 300sps, ultra quiet.
@@minilogoguy18FYI level 3 will stop your sub bullet, possibly even really good level 2.
@@hbomattexactly. That's the problem w 300 subs. Supers may be a different story
That’s very informative Karl. Can you make a similar video for pistols, specifically for 40 or 45?
great info.. i keep the critical defense in mine!!! glad to know i choose correct!!
Thanks for the testing 👍
Any time!
Another great video, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the great video 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
I use that Hornady Critical Defense. Love the intro
I live in Alaska where we can't get the ammo we want we have to go with what we have so I use the green tip penetrator we got bears
RIP the bug at 7:04
10.5 inch 300 Blk running Sabre black tip 110 gr supers until I can get a can on it. My GPR is 16 inch 5.56 running 62 gr black tip.
Karl another great video. Everyone should visit your website
For those new viewers.
Karl is a hard guy that has been there done it and Uses his real world experiences to inform those who have not been on the 2 way range.
Great explanation on the Ballistic Gel blocks.
One of my favorite videos is the barrier setup of homes drywall, brick etc vs different calibers. You put a lot of work into that video. You should put links to these videos. Or a list of defence videos.
Another one is your video on why an AR-15 or other 5.56 / .223 rifle is the best firearm for home defence.
You convinced me that a shotgun or pistol are not the best choices for me.
After watching these and your other videos as we say 'There is no doubt in my military mind that a properly loaded AR-15 is the best home defence' firearm for me.
I'm running 123gr Hornady for conversation distance. SixFive Grendel is king👑!
Mags are loaded with Hornady TAP 75 gr for ‘home/yard’ use…Green Tip and M193’s for everything else. Sig and Fiocchi 125’s &110’s Supers for .300 BLK…
Thanks for sharing these products.
Glad you like them!
that black tip stuff was nice , didnt even go through the gel all the way
16” barrel. “Hornady® 223 Rem 55 gr. TAP Urban® is the preferred choice for use in SBRs, carbines, and rifles when the probability for barrier penetration is low. Rapid expansion provides dramatic wound cavities, massive fragmentation, and prevents over penetration on non-barrier engagements. These factors make this bullet a great choice when collateral risk is high.”
This was very helpful and informative
Glad it was helpful!
Great video on HD ammo!
Love it! Personally, I 😅would love to see the same type of video, except with "EDC" self-defense rounds.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
My defense round is the Winchester RA556B. It’s a 64gr bonded bullet. Probably the best out there.
I use 62gr Gold Dot for my home defense round. I use critical duty in my carry gun (G23).
Where do you find gold dots anymore??
Nice video thank you.
Thank you too
It’s a great video. Thanks for the video and for the information I’ll just use my good old military grade ammo for ghost or a fridge goes through a fridge. Whatever it takes to stop the threat 100%.
Keep making your videos the are great guys
That intro tho......hahahah. Good one guys.
Very informative tx
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing this!!
My pleasure!
Seen hornadys new v match usin new eld-vt bullet..? Can’t wait to test some
Nice video. What's your recommendation on EDC pistol ammo?
I agree.
PSAs Sabre blacktip in 5.56 62 or 75gr is my go to
For 5.56, I'm def in agreement.
I got 1k rds of them and the 55gr because at first only the 55gr were available, ordered 200rds of the 62gr sbbt
Also got some of the aac 75gr jhpbt 5.56 as well and i have around 500-700 rds of fiocchi soft points as well. I also stumbled on an amazing deal of barnes 223 69gr jhp Bt for $16/box or
So a bit ago on buds and got 500rds of that. Just wanted to
Some different flavors to try. Bought 5 boxes of hornady black 75gr jhp as well, wanted to see how reliable they run.
I keep 5.56 62 grain controlled chaos in my 12.5 AR. Great video as always
That's what I'm using for home defense. I have some 62 grain Federal XM556FBIT3 soft points for outdoor scenarios that would require shooting through barriers.
Good stuff
It’s good stuff! I have the 115 Grain CC for my 300BLK and 152 Grain CC for my .308.
Running frangible Pine Valley rounds for home defense. Sad that they went out of business. I believe you recommended it at one time. My back up round is the AAC Sabre round only in 62gr…good stuff.
I too still have some Pine Valley ammo left. Ruag really screwed them over.
I run Black Hills Mk262 ammo in my Mk12. I need another AR pistol or SBR in 300blk and order some Lehigh Defense 110gr controlled chaos
Did Imri do the hollering voice over? Lol
The winchester deer season is pretty good. Blackhill 77 gr otm is good too
Yay to that Adams Arms rifle 👍
The blacktip is good ammo. Run blacktip in my 300 BLK and it is also great.
The Barnes 110 tac tx pill? Yea they’re nasty nasty rounds.
SPEER GOLD DOT 223 REMINGTON 55 GRAIN SP; top shelf stuff if you can find it. Hornady Black 300 Blackout 208 Grain A-Max SUBSONIC with the polymer tip; reliable. Hornady Subsonic 300 Blackout 190 gr Sub-X; because of the "fat" polymer tip I believe resulted in a couple of feed issues with by gun. Since both are available I went with the 208gr. which gave me no issues after about 300 rounds; and $300! If you are able to deploy a rifle of any kind in a self-defense situation you are being watched by an Angel.
I ordered some of the Sabre today. As long as it’s reliable, cant argue with the price.
I have neighbors to the south, valley to the west, open lot then neighbors to the north and mountain to the east. I have singe wall construction and frangible is illegal in my county& state. So I loaded soft points forget the grain and have to make sure I’m retreated to a certain angle to have the valley as my backdrop
Love the content keep it coming. I'm currently messing around with AAC's 5.56 77grain Sierra and it seems to work well have you heard anything about it good or bad? I'd be happy to send you a couple of boxes for you to try it out if you haven't already. Side note you did a video a few years back that helped me decide on a home defense pistol setup with a CT trigger guard laser light combo and I absolutely love it!!!!! Thanks again.
Sorry I am not familiar with the AAC 77gr.
@@TacticalRifleman…THERE’S 2 BOXES right there!
Can confirm on 500+ deer and hogs over the last couple years, 77gr SMKs are extremely effective on soft tissue. I prefer IMI over AAC since it has a sealed primer and velocity has a much smaller SD. But for the price, AAC 77gr SMKs are a great option.
Use what you can afford and have readily available. Training repetitive style, know your home and weapons, shot placement is key, mindset that you might have to take a life to protect your own.
Home defense i use 55-62 black tip. And 55 speer gold dot for outside
As somebody that's still getting an AR going, I like all the info. Life has a way of throwing a wrench in your progress though.
Gonna be a "slow 'n steady" gear up, but I'll take the info for when I can apply it.
Patience is key brother, I was walking around my house with a psa 16” upper for 2 months before I finally got my lower 😅
Watching band of brothers/black hawk down aiming my upper at the screen until just recently 😂
Still aiming at the screen (unloaded duh) but now it’s complete.
Trust the process & just know it’s so exciting when you get it done 👍
Pretty much done the same a couple days ago while the wife watched NCIS. Haha
Awesome
No channel better, however once you get passed what gun, what ammo, while both important choices of defense, by far the most important choice is tactics. I wish more channels spent more time on tactics instead of caliber or length of barrel and speed and grains or projectile. How you think is far more important than what you buy.
I know where the bread is buttered and still love this G.B. and this channel.
Sorry, we don’t do tactics on the open internet… only tips and techniques.
Want tactics?… you’ll have to take a class.
I use 300 Blackout for home defense. Mainly because of the sound suppression
Just got a clasic winchester 44 mag lever gun i know its a new toy but im gona grab that for home defence
I picked up some of those Sabre rounds and while I haven’t tested them on gel, the accuracy and reliability have been great. They’re not as accurate as 77 OTM but far better than XM193 or 855. None of my 5 shot groups have been over 1” at 100 yards though my 18” BCM and I’m not the best precision rifle shooter.
Karl from Karl Gunn just found the channel againgreat information
Welcome aboard!
Hornady ammo is pronounced “Hornet die,” because of this video.
I have all 49 mags full of 75gn Hornady frontier bthp. But I have recently stocked up on that new aac 62gn and 75gn saber and that’s what I been keeping in my bedside gun.
Only 49? Amateur #s buddy.
I'm just kidding.
We probably have crossed paths in life. My # is 40 mags per weapon.
My wife keeps busting my balls about the crates I have.
@@juanguerrero9128 honestly I don’t even know how many I have but I just didn’t wana say too many incase them goons are reading my stuff 🤣 figured anymore than 50 and they might come knocking
@@justa3v619Agreed, now a days saying what you have on the tube is stupid.
I have thin drywall in my house with a wood structure. 300blk subs are my choice. I'm worried 5.56 will likely end up 2 houses over in my subdivision that the houses are super close to one another.
Karl,
Checkout Pilgram Ammunition for 9mm. Low grain, fast, high kinetic energy, no over penetration.
My home defense ammo is anything I can get my hands on that runs well in whatever tool I’m using at the moment. If I happen to have ball at that particular moment, I’m not going to searching around for a mag full of Hornady…
You don’t prepare ahead of time?
My family deserves a little forethought. I live in an extremely safe area. However, shit happens. When it does, the people that prepared will be prepared.
why isnt it already in multiple guns would be my question...
@TacticalRifleman Too be fair, not everyone has the means or chances to get their pick of ammo. I just turned 22. 18 was right before the Plan-demic, so I have spent almost all of my legal adult years unable to buy ammo. Stuff started staying in stock about 6 months ago where I live. There ARE people who never had a chance to stock up before hand.
@@TacticalRifleman Apparently you miss the point I was trying to make. Of course I have ballistic tip and other personal defense ammunition available but if ever faced with a situation when my only choice was ball ammunition, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it
This is why I keep different loads in my mags on my carrier or mag coupler. I will do like a 75 BTHP, a 62 green tip, and a 50 grain hp variation in 3 separate mags.
3 different points of impact and 3 different ballistic profiles.
@@johnjay1147 I just use M855. Get this, I know a guy who loads his G19 "bedside gun" a 9mm with (in the same magazine mind you) one round of FMJ followed by 14 rounds of JHP. Wait, you say, that's just 15, where's the +1? Empty chamber of course, because he doesn't have a holster. He imagines he will actually get them all in the same hole! He doesn't even practice shooting.
I use 55/62 grain Speer Gold Dot for my home defense.
I have the 55gr and 75gr, haven’t seen the 62s in a min.
@ronin8490 Yeah, they seem to be hard to find even when ammo is widely available.
My home defense ammo is propane for my flamethrower
Mixture of diesel and gasoline for the best results 👍
Safety 3rd. Full send. 👍
I run fort scott TUI still barrier blind but once it hits a soft target it tumbles and dumps its energy.
Good test I've been looking for a defensive ammo for my rifle, FBI requires 12-18 inches of penetration in ballistics gel to be most effective, looks like some of these especially that frangible might have come up a little short but for home defense especially urban areas I'd want to be on the lower end of that for sure. 55gr vmax for me, it holds the exact same zero as my range ammo which is great.
Wait your talking about these coming up short but your sastisfied with 55 grain vmax that only penetrates 9 inches of block, that’s doesn’t add up. Second the Sabre Blade has been tested over and over and it got to 14 inches after penetrating multiple layers of clothing. So no it didn’t come up short, had he measured it that’s 13-14 inches right there..
for all the poors like myself, M193 is my go to for home defense and 77gr black hills for shtf patrol rifle. imi or american eagle works just fine, some brands can vary 200fps so nice to test different brands
I’m using the Defiant Munitions 223 62gr TCX stuff is running 3,000 feet per second and 1,239 ft/lbs of muzzle energy, as tested in a standard 18 inch, 1 in 8 twist barrel. Stuff is very accurate also and looks 🔥
And which kidney did you have to sell to obtain it. Their prices are some of the most ridiculous on the market.
Depends on your living situation, apartment vs house, situational awareness… who is behind the bad guys?
If i could design a platform from the ground up solely for home defense, i'd go with PSA Saber Blade 300BLK out of 8" barrel with a Flow 762 ti
Great minds think alike!! I use firstroundseversspinalcord. These pills really hurt.
Great info. Would love to see this with more brands of ammo in the future!
Send and we will test
I’ll see what I can dig up for you!
Greetings Karl!! What firearm is that? Asking for a friend.
🤣Intro🤣!! But yeah, would have liked to see the bullets after the test please, regardless, another successful outing, thanks!
M193 still rocks, it's cheap to train with and effective against soft targets.
If hollowpoints are available Nd not too pricy id pick those over 193 ball. That tumble factor isn’t always going to occur even in 1/12 twist
If you consider crop damage deer permit shoot an effective testing procedure, and the metric being considered is the amount of time between bullet impact and collapsing, and stoping movement; then M193 is terrible, but 55 gr TAP is really good and at short range say 200 yards and less, the difference in poi between the 2 rounds is not significant
As long as you have the velocity, if you don’t it’s like using FMJ in a pistol. For me M193 is too velocity dependant, ballistic tips have a wider velocity threshold. Not to mention a lot of manufactures are slinging 223 velocity rounds with 5.56 M193 written on the box.
I like the Winchester elite 64 grain bonded solid base.
Good ammo but NOT for home defense
@@TacticalRifleman I live on 60 acres of woods and hills. My closest neighbor is 4 miles away. Everything is for home defense.
I honestly double stack my 300blk 15frang/15CORBON GTX for the house gun if the first 15frang doesn't get it done then it's time to penetrant 😅
I have Speer Gold Dot .223 and 9mm.
K gun with N barrel, G trigger, M rail, B stock, T sight, S ammo, etc. Too much content for 1% buyers, most people buy a sub $750 AR, with affordable ammo/mags, a basic red dot, no sling or light and call it a day. Too many sponsored content, with Cartier my favorite gun of this week, Gucci flavor of the month ammo, hit the lottery to buy some quality glass/optic not made in China and a sling which can basically serve as an f one fitty strap down their phat cousin. Thanks for keeping it 💯 honest, straight and respectful.
I pack my mags with M193 FMJ lol.
Some people don't understand why and I tell em m855 has too much penetration its only really good if you need to get thru something to hit your target otherwise it often times blows clean thru a target and doesnt deliver that umph that 5.56 needs to sit something down and take it out of the fight.
I pack my mags with 25 m193 and 5 m855 at the top. I like m193 because its just lead core FMJ. Its what they were issued in Nam before the M855 became a thing. Really good for fragmenting on impact and delivering full energy transfer but not to good at barrier penetration. Itll get thru a little shit, but the rounds flight path can be altered more easily that m855 after going thru an object.
If I want AP ill spit up the cash for M855A1 or M995
Great video. Bad timing for the wasp though.
He flew away after second bounce of the block
MK318 is good stuff, but sadly it’s not available anymore due to the M855A1 winning it out. I think some still use it and have it. But you don’t see the contract overruns. That being said my money goes to AAC for defensive rounds, and it probably always will..