Hopefully the other one gets fixed up quick for you! As always, amazing work man!! Came out fantastic! Gotta say, my favorite piece was the beer car towards the end though….. 😂🤣😂🤣
It never ceases to amaze me how realistic your trains and layout are and the way you video record them bring them to life. The engines and cars are perfectly weathered (not too much, not too little) with a great understanding of what would be rusted, rain streaked, dusty, etc. And the engines start up slowly and the sounds match the movement really, really well. I'm looking forward to the day when there are animated figures in the engine windows and waiting at the station or hanging around the layout. I know there are versions of them out there now but they're too unrealistic to pass muster for your layout IMO. Plus now I really want a cold beer.
Custom layout builder, Dave Hikel, of Hikel O Gauge, has made animated wayside figures using a flexible material that contracts like muscle tissue when electrical current is applied. You can see some of them in action on Peter Hambling's layout in Medina, Washington. There are UA-cam videos under "Northwest Trunk Lines" available to watch. A little professional collaboration between Dave and Norm could yield spectacular results. I'd like to see an engineer figure who waves as the train passes, or pulling the lanyard when the whistle is sounded. How about a brakeman that steps out of the doghouse and then back in? The possibilities are endless! BTW, the schooner of Yuengling demonstrates great confidence in your track maintenance of way crews' attention to detail. I can't imagine the mess a derailment or even a switch jiggle might make if a full pint were to topple over! Hope to see you at York, Norm. Your modeling artistry sets a high bar for all of us in the hobby to aspire to!
Your layout, seems to be the only one I have run across on UA-cam, where you are unafraid to weather and beat up your locomotives, and your scenery seems to eschew the toylike look of most other lionel layouts. Your layout has this proper scale look, and the lighting and background mimic a sunny day, near perfectly. Really well done, Sir.
FYI Norm, British Railways green, and GWR green, have variously been described, both in prototype and model form, as being both Brunswick green and dark green. Surprisingly both as official terms. Needless to say in earlier days of course colour variations depended in reality on whatever the shops produced. There wasn't go down to the hardware and get a bucket of green, whichever paint shop would get slabs of pigment, almost like rocks, and this was manually broken up into powder form and mixed with turpentine. This of course created variances in line with even basic mix ratios. The rock pigment is why lots of earlier colours tended to be 'earthy' tones, ochres, greens, siennas etc. Fairly obviously paint hexes started coming to the form, RAL being the general standard, however even the prewar reichsbahn colours can be very ambiguous. The grey blue of reichsbahn electric locomotives haven't had any RAL sampling since the war, and prewar agfa used different colour shifts as opposed to Kodak, so prewar colour photos don't portray an accurate picture, the locomotives often appearing as with a distinct grey green look rather than grey blue. You remember all the hoopla regarding the colour when Lionel first produced the Vanderbilt? Not really too sure what I'm rambling on about, but maybe you could see what something like the humbrol Brunswick gwr green is like?
Floquil solvent based paints where the bomb when I was a kid back in the 70's I think I bought it into the early 90's Love seeing your projects and layouts.
Looks much better! I ordered the Cumberland Valley set. I'm hoping the green is darker on 520, but I assume they already painted all of the locomotive shells.
Hey, Norm, sorry to hear about the #1369. It is unfortunate but, if it helps you feel any better, I had to send both of my MO PAC Atlantic's back to Lionel, but after a couple trips back to the "land of misfit toys," they are both good now, all be it a little worse for wear. I picked up a PRR L1#1343 during a recent visit to TrainLand while on Long Island. I love my L1 as well and like yours it certainly is a great smoker. Enjoyed the video, Norm! Take care. Bill B.
Another great video, Norm. I love how you go over everything and show the process for improving these locomotives. It doesn't matter if you're into 3-rail, any modeler can learn from these
I’ve never had that happen with a new engine. This is the third (and fourth with the 1369’s return) engine I have with this style gearbox. The two K4s I own with this type of gearbox haven’t given me any grief.
Sweet! Can't wait for the other one to get back and you perform some more of your magic on it. Then it's double header time! Thanks for sharing your fun with us
QA issues seem to be more prevalent these days. Still a beautiful model and hopefully repaired quickly. Everything else looking top-notch as always, Norm. Thx for the vid. Love that prototypical beer car at 27:28
Like the full-glass-of-beer-test on the flat bed. A good test for level track. Norm - how the heck did you film those shots running just in front of the engine nose - so steady and non-jittery?
Ha I was wondering if someone would catch that 🍺 run-by. The pacing shots are done with my Legacy NW2 pulling a flat with my iPhone on it. I put a couple 123 blocks on it to keep the Kadees from bouncing.
Fantastic video Norm! Such a bummer about 1369, hopefully that doesn't happen to the other one. I haven't had any issues with mine yet. Been looking forward to your thoughts on these engines. Also booz and Choo's are never a bad combo!
Thanks. I like the 805s because they work a little smoother and are a little more forgiving with misalignment. They can also grab standard 3 rail couplers.
Lionel really screwed up the colors on this. Would love to see how to simply repaint one of these. Shame about the QC issues. I’ve gotten burned 3 times in a row right now.
I was tempted to try some acrylic filters on this but after experimenting with the black wash I felt some extra English on the grimy black was good enough.
You have a kit, I believe it’s plaster or hydrocal, that has multiple truck loading docks at different angles. I owned that kit years ago and sold it. Now I’m trying to find it again but cannot seem to find it. Do you know by chance the name of that kit? Thank you.
Probably the Downtown Deco Monarch Distributors? www.trainz.com/products/downtown-deco-dd5-monarch-distributing-building-kit That's my pic btw 😆 They also did Rainbow Beverage which is an extended flat version of Monarch.
Hi Norm, I have an I1 and L1 question: I’ve seen both engines with red or black cab roofs. Do you know why they would have one or the other? Was it an era based difference? I’ve seen both with either roof and I’ve been curious as to why.
Here’s an interesting read if you have the time: prr.groups.io/g/PRR/message/9344?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2CCab+roof%2C20%2C2%2C20%2C77454697 There’s some good info in that thread and others.
Mine didn’t seem phased by the first train I had it pull but 16-17 heavy scale cars is about what I’d normally run behind it. I’m not that crazy about this gearbox setup. Time will tell if it is durable.
I always was confused over this: which is closer to black, Brunswick Green or DGLE? The sources I read are contradictory. The near black version is the one I need to paint a GG1 and T1a (in HO).
I think the DGLE and Brunswick Green paint names are used interchangeably quite often. I don't know if PRR even used the name 'Brunswick'. I feel like the old Floquil/Polly Brunswick was the darkest right out of the bottle.
Norm,I really enjoy your videos!!!Your weathering techniques are excellent!!And like yourself,I also have a stash of Polly-S ,and Floquil paints I use!!Have you ever considered adding a circus train to your layout???😁😁😁
Smasthing layout Norm , with great attention to detail on the scenery , the locomotives , and the rolling stock ! One would be hard pressed , to find very few better than this .
The beer on the flatcar was a nice touch😂😂
I hope it was Yuengling 🤔
It was Warsteiner! I had a couple sips before I sent it on it’s little ride!
Even better 🍺
Hopefully the other one gets fixed up quick for you! As always, amazing work man!! Came out fantastic! Gotta say, my favorite piece was the beer car towards the end though….. 😂🤣😂🤣
That beer car shows ultimate confidence in your track.
Fantastic layout !!! And a fantastic engine as well. I love how you weathered your trains, they look great!
Your locos are so realistick , it's a great pleasure to watch them all going !
Look forward to seeing 1369 and 1343 as a double header once you get 1369 back. Great weathering
Really beautiful modeling. Just mesmerized with your level of detail.
It never ceases to amaze me how realistic your trains and layout are and the way you video record them bring them to life. The engines and cars are perfectly weathered (not too much, not too little) with a great understanding of what would be rusted, rain streaked, dusty, etc. And the engines start up slowly and the sounds match the movement really, really well. I'm looking forward to the day when there are animated figures in the engine windows and waiting at the station or hanging around the layout. I know there are versions of them out there now but they're too unrealistic to pass muster for your layout IMO. Plus now I really want a cold beer.
Custom layout builder, Dave Hikel, of Hikel O Gauge, has made animated wayside figures using a flexible material that contracts like muscle tissue when electrical current is applied. You can see some of them in action on Peter Hambling's layout in Medina, Washington. There are UA-cam videos under "Northwest Trunk Lines" available to watch. A little professional collaboration between Dave and Norm could yield spectacular results. I'd like to see an engineer figure who waves as the train passes, or pulling the lanyard when the whistle is sounded. How about a brakeman that steps out of the doghouse and then back in? The possibilities are endless!
BTW, the schooner of Yuengling demonstrates great confidence in your track maintenance of way crews' attention to detail. I can't imagine the mess a derailment or even a switch jiggle might make if a full pint were to topple over!
Hope to see you at York, Norm. Your modeling artistry sets a high bar for all of us in the hobby to aspire to!
Your layout, seems to be the only one I have run across on UA-cam, where you are unafraid to weather and beat up your locomotives, and your scenery seems to eschew the toylike look of most other lionel layouts. Your layout has this proper scale look, and the lighting and background mimic a sunny day, near perfectly. Really well done, Sir.
Rather nice layout ... Superb
Another awesome production. That flat car passing by was a hoot!
FYI Norm, British Railways green, and GWR green, have variously been described, both in prototype and model form, as being both Brunswick green and dark green. Surprisingly both as official terms.
Needless to say in earlier days of course colour variations depended in reality on whatever the shops produced. There wasn't go down to the hardware and get a bucket of green, whichever paint shop would get slabs of pigment, almost like rocks, and this was manually broken up into powder form and mixed with turpentine. This of course created variances in line with even basic mix ratios.
The rock pigment is why lots of earlier colours tended to be 'earthy' tones, ochres, greens, siennas etc. Fairly obviously paint hexes started coming to the form, RAL being the general standard, however even the prewar reichsbahn colours can be very ambiguous.
The grey blue of reichsbahn electric locomotives haven't had any RAL sampling since the war, and prewar agfa used different colour shifts as opposed to Kodak, so prewar colour photos don't portray an accurate picture, the locomotives often appearing as with a distinct grey green look rather than grey blue.
You remember all the hoopla regarding the colour when Lionel first produced the Vanderbilt?
Not really too sure what I'm rambling on about, but maybe you could see what something like the humbrol Brunswick gwr green is like?
Floquil solvent based paints where the bomb when I was a kid back in the 70's I think I bought it into the early 90's Love seeing your projects and layouts.
I still have a couple bottles of Rail Brown too!
Ha 😂, I love the drive by with the tall glass of beer.
Sweet, 2 Video's in one weekend, thanks Norm!! I still have 2 full bottles of Floquil
Conrail Blue I'm sitting tight on!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Looks much better! I ordered the Cumberland Valley set. I'm hoping the green is darker on 520, but I assume they already painted all of the locomotive shells.
Steam era is one of the best for the hobby. Next would be the f3 serious. I goi g have to pick me up one of these great job .
I got my Lionel l1 in July and love it! I have the Lehigh and New England 501
Hey, Norm, sorry to hear about the #1369. It is unfortunate but, if it helps you feel any better, I had to send both of my MO PAC Atlantic's back to Lionel, but after a couple trips back to the "land of misfit toys," they are both good now, all be it a little worse for wear. I picked up a PRR L1#1343 during a recent visit to TrainLand while on Long Island. I love my L1 as well and like yours it certainly is a great smoker. Enjoyed the video, Norm! Take care. Bill B.
Another great video, Norm. I love how you go over everything and show the process for improving these locomotives. It doesn't matter if you're into 3-rail, any modeler can learn from these
Amazing l-1 Norm! Hope you get the other one working. Several people have been having trouble with their engines locking up.
I’ve never had that happen with a new engine. This is the third (and fourth with the 1369’s return) engine I have with this style gearbox. The two K4s I own with this type of gearbox haven’t given me any grief.
27:33 Pennsy made a special delivery from Milwaukee? 😂 Beer special!🤣 Good one!
Was the Stobe's Railroad Salvage sign a reference to Stobe the Hobo?
Yes sir, loved his vids.
Excellent video really enjoyed watching your video keep up the great work thanks again and have a wonderful safe day
Sweet!
Can't wait for the other one to get back and you perform some more of your magic on it. Then it's double header time!
Thanks for sharing your fun with us
That “Grimy-Black” paint/weathering looks incredible, especially on your layout. Lionel’s new soundboards are a welcome improvement- Great video.
Norm, another great video, too bad about the issues. Hurriedly QC? Totally loved the glass of beer. Two videos in a few days, Thank you!
QA issues seem to be more prevalent these days. Still a beautiful model and hopefully repaired quickly. Everything else looking top-notch as always, Norm. Thx for the vid. Love that prototypical beer car at 27:28
I like the Green , Hope to see them both in a lash up when you get it back …..I’ve been watching your channel for a while , Good Stuff !
Looks so good weathered!
Looks great 👍
The beer was a nice touch.
Also that is some nice camera work. I am assuming you put the go pro on another train car a rolled it beside the locomotive.
Like the full-glass-of-beer-test on the flat bed. A good test for level track.
Norm - how the heck did you film those shots running just in front of the engine nose - so steady and non-jittery?
Ha I was wondering if someone would catch that 🍺 run-by.
The pacing shots are done with my Legacy NW2 pulling a flat with my iPhone on it. I put a couple 123 blocks on it to keep the Kadees from bouncing.
Very nice. I have plans to model a Pennsy branch line, though it will be in HO scale due to my limitations on space.
Fantastic video Norm!
Such a bummer about 1369, hopefully that doesn't happen to the other one. I haven't had any issues with mine yet.
Been looking forward to your thoughts on these engines.
Also booz and Choo's are never a bad combo!
Ahh. So that's where I left my beer.
A person sitting on the tender like it is a caboose? Never seen that before.
The doghouse is for the head end brakeman.
I can’t un-see the tender deck to cab height difference now
Once again a great video Norm! Why do you prefer the 800 series Kadees? IMHO the 740 series are more realistic since the spring isn't visible.
Thanks. I like the 805s because they work a little smoother and are a little more forgiving with misalignment. They can also grab standard 3 rail couplers.
Lionel really screwed up the colors on this. Would love to see how to simply repaint one of these. Shame about the QC issues. I’ve gotten burned 3 times in a row right now.
Have you ever tried hitting your locomotives with a flat base green before using your grimy black. I'd be curious to know the results.
I was tempted to try some acrylic filters on this but after experimenting with the black wash I felt some extra English on the grimy black was good enough.
Norm I guess your a huge penny fan
You have a kit, I believe it’s plaster or hydrocal, that has multiple truck loading docks at different angles. I owned that kit years ago and sold it. Now I’m trying to find it again but cannot seem to find it. Do you know by chance the name of that kit? Thank you.
Probably the Downtown Deco Monarch Distributors? www.trainz.com/products/downtown-deco-dd5-monarch-distributing-building-kit
That's my pic btw 😆
They also did Rainbow Beverage which is an extended flat version of Monarch.
Wonderful video. Great layout. If I have asked this question in the past I apologize but how large is your layout?
29’ by 36’ L shaped.
@@normstrains thank you
Did you get one of the Legacy PRR A5s 0-4-0 switchers?
No I did not. Didn't like the boiler shape. Maybe I'll get one of those little Weavers someday and put Blunami in it.
I’ll buy that original coupler Norm if you’re interested in selling, Thanks! Great Vid nonetheless ✌️
Awesome beer car! 😂😂😂
I have the same Weaver brass N5c
Hi Norm, I have an I1 and L1 question: I’ve seen both engines with red or black cab roofs. Do you know why they would have one or the other? Was it an era based difference? I’ve seen both with either roof and I’ve been curious as to why.
Here’s an interesting read if you have the time: prr.groups.io/g/PRR/message/9344?p=%2C%2C%2C20%2C0%2C0%2C0%3A%3ACreated%2C%2CCab+roof%2C20%2C2%2C20%2C77454697
There’s some good info in that thread and others.
Norm like your weatheringer ,but you need to use Brunswick green .this is a black green. John
New subscriber. U do nice work.
Thanks!
Can you make a weathering tutorial
I’ve done quite a few demos in my Chronicles series.
These engines have 3 pounds of pulling power according to Eric's review on Eric's trains.
Mine didn’t seem phased by the first train I had it pull but 16-17 heavy scale cars is about what I’d normally run behind it. I’m not that crazy about this gearbox setup. Time will tell if it is durable.
@@normstrains I agree completely. Best not to go too crazy the engine. Besides, the L1s were used on relatively short locals and as helpers.
I always was confused over this: which is closer to black, Brunswick Green or DGLE? The sources I read are contradictory. The near black version is the one I need to paint a GG1 and T1a (in HO).
I think the DGLE and Brunswick Green paint names are used interchangeably quite often. I don't know if PRR even used the name 'Brunswick'. I feel like the old Floquil/Polly Brunswick was the darkest right out of the bottle.
Norm. Do you add grease to your engines when their new?
I usually do and this one got a shot before running.
Norm,I really enjoy your videos!!!Your weathering techniques are excellent!!And like yourself,I also have a stash of Polly-S ,and Floquil paints I use!!Have you ever considered adding a circus train to your layout???😁😁😁
I hate that damn whistle so much. It sounds awful. Who's the genius who invented it?
To each their own, I think it’s pretty nice…
Zamfir, Master of the Pan Flute!
Smasthing layout Norm , with great attention to detail on the scenery , the locomotives , and the rolling stock ! One would be hard pressed , to find very few better than this .
Looks. Sounds, and runs* like an MTH loco vs a true high end scale Lionel piece.... (*Poorly)
I didn’t understand this.