i think some of the seeding was done to avoid regional team kills which i think is fair ultimately a few spots shouldn’t be that huge of a difference and japan just have a ton of good players
Japan has better players, so japan is worth more points due to the rankings, and because they have so many high point players, its easier for them to rise and do well over there because there are more points to get. Its really not that hard to figure out.
very ironic to hear about this “japan bias” in the rankings after everyone called for a 6 month ranking period, which members of this podcast asked for. Japanese players get very high with one or two breakout performances in a whole year. Something that gets averaged out in a full year ranking. But since top players prefer 6 months rankings... Well, enjoy the JP shooting stars invading the top50.
people wanted 6 month rankings cause that used to be the norm and there was nothing wrong with it. It had nothing to do with "Japan Bias". Top players in general didn't like it due to the fact that one bad tournament, meant it was completely over for you, for that entire year
@@BladeVoltz i’m not saying the 6 month ranking is due to japan bias and i agree with a half year ranking being better, but expect the strongest region (Japan) to be showing up more in the rankings now. with so many events they have a lot of opportunities to pop off and get crazy wins
Cosmos lacks good wins I think. He's got that big win on Sparg0 of course, but besides that, his best wins are Lima and Dabuz, who as we can see aren't ranked that high. His losses also aren't amazing.
Not really. Smash right now has been the most inconsistent it has ever been in the tournaments. Acola and Miya are consistent, but the former tends to be from Steve stuff and the latter tends to fall from Leo, Sparg0, and Sonix, and even lost to Hurt, Light, and Gluttony on +2/3 match ups. Japan is simply much more privileged on a technological and environmental basis that other regions unfortunately don’t have.
@@justice8718 Japan isn’t more privileged. You probably think smash is inconsistent because you probably live in America. Japan worked for it and they got better. The result’s literally speak for themselves. Japan is better at smash bros ultimate.
JP is just a different kind of beast , they play for fun, prestige , and glory ..NA is full of egoist talkers, only wanna play for $$ , treat it as a job they hate, suck the fun out of it..that's why JP farms ya jims
It's kind of funny Light's argument for Tweek > Hurt is Tweek has 2 majors wins for the season when Hurt has 3. I do agree with the consistency though as Hurt did have relatively poor results in his latest tournaments, but Tweek has also entered less tournaments.
Hurt has placed 25th and lower at his last 2 big events. Tweek has been far more consistent. Hurt shouldn’t be over him at all regardless of having one more major win over him
Only one of them counts for this ranking. You could easily argue for Hurt over Tweek since Tweek has barely gone to anything for the season, and yet his record still has "bad" results with 17th at Collision and doing really badly at the invitational he went to. Hurt has gone to more tournaments, and has wins on presumably higher ranking players since there are probably a lot of JP in the rankings and Hurt has beat most of them this season (Most notably Acola).
The regional multiplier still applies for some places in Japan and for some places in NA and for most of Europe. The rule is that any region that hasn't had a major in a certain amount of time gets a multiplier. The number of attendants gets multiplied by two or three: if two hundred people are at a tournament in a region with a multiplier, the event will get an additional 200 or 400 points(for reference, someone in the 5 of the lumirank is worth 350 points on their own) So it's not that much in reality, it rarely has a big impact.
oh my god bro 🤦🏽 they're saying the prelocal invitationals for this season won't count, not erasing previous events from rankings. and its literally happening because people complained about them counting so they're setting a consistent precedent. its always some hate for people who put in tons work for rankings, seedings etc for no return
Shoutout Light for the DTF dub and good luck to Light and Riddles at Supernova! Also excited to hear EE killing it on the mic as always The seeding is CRAZY though Idk what they were smoking when making that 💀
The Japan biased is real but let's not act like American tourneys couldn't all be just as high tierd if top players would actually show up to them, light, cosmos, riddles, even tweek only shows his face around super majors. Yall are part of the American issue never showing up to the tourneys and uptiering them
First thing I noticed regarding the seeding: Miya ist 1st. Spargo is put as 8th. They'll face each other on winners side, and Spargo has a great chance of winning that. This is an intentional move by the american organizers, duh! (And I like it!)
I would hate being a fully dedicated Smash statistician nerd who spends hours on spreadsheets and compiling data and comparing regions and results, to be told by people who clearly have no idea what the fuck they're talking about and clearly don't look at the data even close to as much, that they're more biased towards a region that isn't even their own. I don't see heads of the Lumirank telling EE how to commentate or Light how to play Fox, not sure what the obsession is with top players and figureheads telling people with college education and degrees in statistics how wrong they are out of, what, vibes? Because the seeders are more biased towards people not in their own region than top players would be biased towards their own 𝘧𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘴?
@@EEvisu Unfortunately the same sentiments get slammed onto these people every time rankings come out. That's cool for you that its jokes dude but putting that much work in and getting discredited all the time isn't fun for other people. Nothing against you guys for making entertainment, I'm a viewer for a reason.
My guess for cosmos not being top 50 is that it might be head to heads? Are his h2h against the top 10/20 worse than others? Either way I was surprised he wasn't either
Japan has more events, Japan has more players ranked therefore they get more majors. The players then get more points meaning they can rise up. I honestly don't think Leo had a bad season at all, but when you look at what was happening in Japan its like "oh... well yea". And Smashcon seeding is 100% the Lumirank order.
Japanese players have more opportunities to attend bigger tournaments, yes, but that doesn't actually significantly help them more than NA when considering the fact that you can be ranked highly with lower or higher attendance. Crossplay between regions is what matters the most, and Japanese players are very good at doing well in NA while NA players absolutely drowned at Golden Week. The rank would not have been as Japan dominated if top NA players didn't die at Kagaribi and DELTA, or if Japanese players didn't show up as much at events like BoBC. Even JP's weaker events like Genesis weren't as poor for them as Golden Week.
Japan has more players ranked and are better as their players got flown out a lot for YEARS (AND to this day they still are) and worked their way up to being the strongest region… so when will Japan start flying players out?
@@Enviouslordshaxx Leo is nowhere close to what he was in 2019, regardless if he’s been, “Grinding”. All the top 6 have stronger work ethics/grinds than him at this point. He needs to win more than just a couple regionals and a major to be back in that space where he seemed untouchable.
Wtf is Cosmos not going?! Mans been talking about being top 8 for so long, started doing so good and now, sitting at home. Such good momentum to waste. I’ll e-transfer the kid $50 bucks.
45:00 not a doubt in my mind PrizePicks (or rather the body holding their license fixes the stats. 10 different fights I bet on the significant strike differential and it’d be one short of the payout and the actual strikes landed would be more than double the significant. You’re telling me there was 134 strikes landed but only 38 significant and the popular pick was over 39??? Fixed
It's hilarious to hear the crew accidentally explain why Japan is better than us. In NA, only Sonix, Sparg0, Tweek, SHADIC, and ShinyMark seem to both enjoy the game and be willing to grind. Meanwhile, a ton of Japanese players seem to enjoy the game and still play it a lot. Is it really any wonder why they surpassed us?
@@zavillion893 Tweek yes. But I don't think Shadic can be argued for. Edit: I'll expand on Shadic's case a little bit. What he has going for him is better losses, more wins in the top 10 and no placement below top 16. What Hurt has going for him is more major wins, a better peak(2nd at the biggest event of the season vs 2nd at a ''small'' S tier), almost certainly more top 50 wins and two winning h2h in the top 10(while Shadic probably only has one winning h2h in the top 10).
@@legrandliseurtri7495 Altough hurt may have had more major wins and higher peaks, shadics worst placement of the entire season was 13th at an S+ tier which isnt even that bad and also was incredibly consistent throughout the entire season
@@zavillion893 What matters is having a winning h2h vs the current top 10, not the top 10 from six months ago. Gluto and Riddles aren't top 10 anymore.
guess you top players were wrong about the bias thing since the players ya'll "who'd" placed higher then you. Also stay free to steve, he is the 6th best character in the game living rent free in Dabuz and kola's head.
See idk about this. His later half of the season was pretty good, so I thought he'd be around 50 tbh. But Genesis and the other early tournament probably hurt him way too much
Well, the 20 to 11 part of the Lumirank just released. I was correct about who is in the top 10, at the very least. We'll have to see if I'm correct about the order. Edit: Lol.
Yeah, you can def see "Japan Bias" in the commuinity, especially with the stats nerd group lmao. Honestly, I dont mind them being fans of Japan, its more using Japan to trash on NA out of some weird insecruity. Reminds me of people who treat Japan as a Utiopa despite only watching anime lol.
It is the best region results wise tbf. And also tbf in the other direction they have tournaments way more often. But yeah people can be cringe about it
@@benross9174 Yeah, both of those things are true, its mainly the trashing/cringe way of talking about NA that I take issue with. One can love Japan, while not being weird about NA
EE, i know you're in the team but, do you think Lumirank is biased because Luminosity is planning to do several invitationals? I mean like to make the player have purpose and plays seriously on said invitational.
TBH Japan bias is 70% of what’s killing this game. It’s a self perpetuating cycle. They have the most tournaments, and they are being weighted TOO heavily and now NA is going to have 3 players in the top 20, so next season unless NA invades Japan on the regular it’s only going to continue as random Japanese players pick up wins on an ever increasing base of ranked Japanese players and themselves get ranked. I understood when the bias started, the Japanese have some great players that deserve es spots in the ranking but the unintended byproduct is now every event is a S+ or P tier in Japan and it is impossible to keep up without practically moving to Japan.
There were 33 USA players in the first rankings nobody complained. Doesn’t even count Mexico or Canada even though they all attend the same tournaments. Back then the mantra was “you should travel then if you wanna be the best” Not so fun on the other side of it I guess
That's not true. First, there will be five players from the United States, 1 player from Mexico, 1 player from Guatemala and 1 player from the Dominican Republic in the top 20 of this season, which is considerably more than three players. Second, most majors in Japan last season were A tiers; 11/15 to be precise. NA, for comparison, had only 5 A tiers out of 10 majors total, so it actually had more supermajors.
EE talks about MkLeo like an old dad who still reminisces about a high-school championship win 😂
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It's wholesome tho and a sign of respect to the goat.
He made the game entertaining, and regardless if he's the best or not he's been the best this game has had so far
always gotta tune in to hear from my three favorite richters 💪
Nahhhhh richter
That’s od
Wdym that's fr what he said.... Richter...
These guys are my Richters💪🏿💪🏿
Yall gotta relax lol
“You know exactly what you’re doing “ - Light to EE about Riddles 😂😂
"IT BE YOUR OWN PEOPLE" lmao EE a fool
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What a NICE guest we have here! Best of luck to Riddles and Light at Supernova
"We're not bias! They're bias!" - The episode
"who seeded this, vayseth?" is WILD
i think some of the seeding was done to avoid regional team kills which i think is fair
ultimately a few spots shouldn’t be that huge of a difference and japan just have a ton of good players
I’m as patriotic as anyone (kind of) but “Japan bias” is just Japan having more good players atm
Japan has better players, so japan is worth more points due to the rankings, and because they have so many high point players, its easier for them to rise and do well over there because there are more points to get. Its really not that hard to figure out.
@@Uran10 that’s not “bias”, that’s just them being naturally rewarded for doing well. Bias would be them being given points arbitrarily or something.
I think japan is better at top level but I feel like their mid-level players are being uplifted arbitrarily
It’s because they upset our top players when they go over there bc they play wack characters
@@abghen2323 via beating their top players
very ironic to hear about this “japan bias” in the rankings after everyone called for a 6 month ranking period, which members of this podcast asked for. Japanese players get very high with one or two breakout performances in a whole year. Something that gets averaged out in a full year ranking. But since top players prefer 6 months rankings... Well, enjoy the JP shooting stars invading the top50.
Silence Jim
@@EEvisu ☹️
people wanted 6 month rankings cause that used to be the norm and there was nothing wrong with it. It had nothing to do with "Japan Bias". Top players in general didn't like it due to the fact that one bad tournament, meant it was completely over for you, for that entire year
@@BladeVoltz i’m not saying the 6 month ranking is due to japan bias and i agree with a half year ranking being better, but expect the strongest region (Japan) to be showing up more in the rankings now. with so many events they have a lot of opportunities to pop off and get crazy wins
Cosmos lacks good wins I think. He's got that big win on Sparg0 of course, but besides that, his best wins are Lima and Dabuz, who as we can see aren't ranked that high. His losses also aren't amazing.
In the podcast cosmos says he isn't ranked
What does that mean? Does that mean he is not top 50?
I’m actually surprised how they still don’t see why Japan is better at smash than the USA. It’s not bias they are just better.
Not really. Smash right now has been the most inconsistent it has ever been in the tournaments. Acola and Miya are consistent, but the former tends to be from Steve stuff and the latter tends to fall from Leo, Sparg0, and Sonix, and even lost to Hurt, Light, and Gluttony on +2/3 match ups.
Japan is simply much more privileged on a technological and environmental basis that other regions unfortunately don’t have.
Japan is better. But they seed Japan higher to create specific matches
@@justice8718Tldr they are better
@@justice8718 Japan isn’t more privileged. You probably think smash is inconsistent because you probably live in America. Japan worked for it and they got better. The result’s literally speak for themselves. Japan is better at smash bros ultimate.
Watch supernova 😂 NA ON TOP BABY
JP is just a different kind of beast , they play for fun, prestige , and glory ..NA is full of egoist talkers, only wanna play for $$ , treat it as a job they hate, suck the fun out of it..that's why JP farms ya jims
It's kind of funny Light's argument for Tweek > Hurt is Tweek has 2 majors wins for the season when Hurt has 3. I do agree with the consistency though as Hurt did have relatively poor results in his latest tournaments, but Tweek has also entered less tournaments.
If it wasn't obvious enough, Light is biased.
Tweek’s events were harder imo
fair. I personally think Battle of BC > Tweek's wins > Hurts other 2 wins, but I can see it.
Hurt has placed 25th and lower at his last 2 big events. Tweek has been far more consistent. Hurt shouldn’t be over him at all regardless of having one more major win over him
Only one of them counts for this ranking.
You could easily argue for Hurt over Tweek since Tweek has barely gone to anything for the season, and yet his record still has "bad" results with 17th at Collision and doing really badly at the invitational he went to.
Hurt has gone to more tournaments, and has wins on presumably higher ranking players since there are probably a lot of JP in the rankings and Hurt has beat most of them this season (Most notably Acola).
The regional multiplier still applies for some places in Japan and for some places in NA and for most of Europe. The rule is that any region that hasn't had a major in a certain amount of time gets a multiplier. The number of attendants gets multiplied by two or three: if two hundred people are at a tournament in a region with a multiplier, the event will get an additional 200 or 400 points(for reference, someone in the 5 of the lumirank is worth 350 points on their own) So it's not that much in reality, it rarely has a big impact.
oh my god bro 🤦🏽 they're saying the prelocal invitationals for this season won't count, not erasing previous events from rankings.
and its literally happening because people complained about them counting so they're setting a consistent precedent.
its always some hate for people who put in tons work for rankings, seedings etc for no return
Yap yap yap
So glad Cosmos got to enjoy this episode with us, bro was spectating LMAO
Shoutout Light for the DTF dub and good luck to Light and Riddles at Supernova! Also excited to hear EE killing it on the mic as always
The seeding is CRAZY though Idk what they were smoking when making that 💀
19:30 this xenoblade ass talk man
as someone who is big into football/soccer it’s actually hilarious that the basketball version of fifa is called fiba idk why it’s funny to me 😂
how does ee keep saying "prize picks wants to take advantage..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Man needs to check his Freudian slip lmaooo
The Japan biased is real but let's not act like American tourneys couldn't all be just as high tierd if top players would actually show up to them, light, cosmos, riddles, even tweek only shows his face around super majors. Yall are part of the American issue never showing up to the tourneys and uptiering them
10:11 light was cooking 😭😭
Reminding you to upload on spotify! appreciate it big man
Just told my editor!
Light's litvitanional win still counts because it happened before the change.
Lv1 feels like he should be higher, unless he has some really bad results I'm not aware of.
Yeahh
He does. He missed top 32 at multiple majors. And don't forget that his recent 4th place doesn't count for this season, it counts for the next one.
The seeding isn't that bad
It's pretty good honestly. The brackets were initially a mess on Start gg, but they fixed it and now it corresponds to the seeding.
The MKLeo stan in me must disagree
If I had someone speaks about me like EE speaks about Leo I’d marry them 😂
Facts
First thing I noticed regarding the seeding: Miya ist 1st. Spargo is put as 8th. They'll face each other on winners side, and Spargo has a great chance of winning that. This is an intentional move by the american organizers, duh! (And I like it!)
I would hate being a fully dedicated Smash statistician nerd who spends hours on spreadsheets and compiling data and comparing regions and results, to be told by people who clearly have no idea what the fuck they're talking about and clearly don't look at the data even close to as much, that they're more biased towards a region that isn't even their own. I don't see heads of the Lumirank telling EE how to commentate or Light how to play Fox, not sure what the obsession is with top players and figureheads telling people with college education and degrees in statistics how wrong they are out of, what, vibes? Because the seeders are more biased towards people not in their own region than top players would be biased towards their own 𝘧𝘳𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘥𝘴?
lmaooo
nice comment.
You sound hurt but I assure you, it’s not that deep, this is entertainment lmao
@@EEvisu Unfortunately the same sentiments get slammed onto these people every time rankings come out. That's cool for you that its jokes dude but putting that much work in and getting discredited all the time isn't fun for other people. Nothing against you guys for making entertainment, I'm a viewer for a reason.
i promise you alot of these stat mfs did not go to college lmao
@@mysteryghost7972 that's fair, sorry if i sounded rude!
It be your own people 😭😭😭😭😭😭
My guess for cosmos not being top 50 is that it might be head to heads? Are his h2h against the top 10/20 worse than others? Either way I was surprised he wasn't either
34:55 void jumpscare 🤣🤣
EE getting spooked by void just made me laugh so hard bro 😂😂
Japan has more events, Japan has more players ranked therefore they get more majors. The players then get more points meaning they can rise up. I honestly don't think Leo had a bad season at all, but when you look at what was happening in Japan its like "oh... well yea". And Smashcon seeding is 100% the Lumirank order.
Japanese players have more opportunities to attend bigger tournaments, yes, but that doesn't actually significantly help them more than NA when considering the fact that you can be ranked highly with lower or higher attendance. Crossplay between regions is what matters the most, and Japanese players are very good at doing well in NA while NA players absolutely drowned at Golden Week. The rank would not have been as Japan dominated if top NA players didn't die at Kagaribi and DELTA, or if Japanese players didn't show up as much at events like BoBC. Even JP's weaker events like Genesis weren't as poor for them as Golden Week.
Japan has more players ranked and are better as their players got flown out a lot for YEARS (AND to this day they still are) and worked their way up to being the strongest region… so when will Japan start flying players out?
NA will rise
JP are more disciplined , they play to win ..and have fun...NA treats it like a job they hate
I’ll keep it real, I love Leo but he has a lot more to prove to these days regardless of his GOAT title.
He does that..
Leos out here grinding more than everyone except sonix in NA wym bro
Bro hasn’t watched a single tourney in the last month or two. He has been playing substantially better several times back to back recently
@@Enviouslordshaxx Leo is nowhere close to what he was in 2019, regardless if he’s been, “Grinding”. All the top 6 have stronger work ethics/grinds than him at this point. He needs to win more than just a couple regionals and a major to be back in that space where he seemed untouchable.
LMFAO the freudian slip "taking advant..."
Wtf is Cosmos not going?! Mans been talking about being top 8 for so long, started doing so good and now, sitting at home. Such good momentum to waste. I’ll e-transfer the kid $50 bucks.
Always on time for my morning workout thanks EE and hi riddles
iv def been hyped for the riddles episode. him being 1 of my favorite smashers and just fgc players in general
this tourney needs shinymark
That segment when EE fucked up riddles nationality😂
Me pretending to not be a Jim for missing the live stream. I just wanted to be in chat to say 69-nice LMAO. Goated podcast keeps up the heat! 🔥
Riddles my favorite japanese player!
Dabuz being number 38 is telling but man that is rough
NA is cooked cooked fr fr
All you do is hate, been doing that for months, that’s crazy.
24:05 bruhhhhh I'm fcking dead 😂😂
Always great to see Light in tourney! Win it all!
lights out is my fav podcast not a bot btw
24:05 EE be outta pocket sometimes lol
yall just had to get the riddler for number 69. love the show and cant wait to see what u guys get up to next
EE was wrong about the Celtics, just a friendly reminder. I got light making winners side top 8 btw 🔥🔥 LETS GO LIGHT 🔥🔥🔥
This guy…
real ones know bout EEs slip up. Lol all love bro!!
tournament timing was so bad ee had to end the stream to get a link up going iykyk 😭
45:00 not a doubt in my mind PrizePicks (or rather the body holding their license fixes the stats. 10 different fights I bet on the significant strike differential and it’d be one short of the payout and the actual strikes landed would be more than double the significant. You’re telling me there was 134 strikes landed but only 38 significant and the popular pick was over 39??? Fixed
It's hilarious to hear the crew accidentally explain why Japan is better than us.
In NA, only Sonix, Sparg0, Tweek, SHADIC, and ShinyMark seem to both enjoy the game and be willing to grind. Meanwhile, a ton of Japanese players seem to enjoy the game and still play it a lot. Is it really any wonder why they surpassed us?
Bro ranked in the top 10 internationally flexing his c tier win....
Japan is #1 but those 3 above Zomba is crazy.
Cosmos not being top 50 is actually insane lmfao
Leo will forever be num 1 in my books :sob: BOOK SEEDING FOR SUPER NOVA!!
When im in a Leo meat riding competition and my opponent is EE (I'm cooked)(I'll still get 2nd Leo is my goat)
I really love this series but i wanna know why does it take more time to be on Spotify sometimes ?
My editor is a dummy, it’s up now sorry!
Thx 🙏🏾
Hurt is def number 4 in lumirank over spargo, he's won more majors and had better h2h
Idk man tweek and shadic could both be argued ahead of him
@@zavillion893 Tweek yes. But I don't think Shadic can be argued for.
Edit: I'll expand on Shadic's case a little bit. What he has going for him is better losses, more wins in the top 10 and no placement below top 16. What Hurt has going for him is more major wins, a better peak(2nd at the biggest event of the season vs 2nd at a ''small'' S tier), almost certainly more top 50 wins and two winning h2h in the top 10(while Shadic probably only has one winning h2h in the top 10).
@@legrandliseurtri7495 In the lumirank 2023 top 10 shadic has a winning h2h on shuton, riddles, gluto and an even record with miya
@@legrandliseurtri7495 Altough hurt may have had more major wins and higher peaks, shadics worst placement of the entire season was 13th at an S+ tier which isnt even that bad and also was incredibly consistent throughout the entire season
@@zavillion893 What matters is having a winning h2h vs the current top 10, not the top 10 from six months ago. Gluto and Riddles aren't top 10 anymore.
"pre-johns" 😂😂
Cosmos had to take a lap on that one.
Favorite time of the week
the kazuya cosplay is so good 😂
Whats up EE. LOVE TO SEE A LIGHT DUB BABY. MY FREAKING BOY! When is next stream
this lumirank absolutely sucks. they can't do basic math on tournament placements
the japanese unbias is crazy because hurt is def top 5 over spargo
LFG RIDDLES
Prize Picks wants to take advantage??😂😂😂😂
I think Hurt will at least be top 5
My RICHTERS!!!! What’s Guuuuud
does riddles audio keep glitching or is it me?
It had a rough patch but it smoothed out
It’s number 29!
Had mfers doing jumping jacks when they were a whole hour behind like what.
Also that scam esports university ad.
Whew
Let’s go!
No way EE just copied the ad from last week and shoved it in the middle
The pic they used of my guy riddles make’em look like a vampire lol… all jokes aside riddles is dope man
guess you top players were wrong about the bias thing since the players ya'll "who'd" placed higher then you. Also stay free to steve, he is the 6th best character in the game living rent free in Dabuz and kola's head.
Virgin name, virgin take, stick to being a fan little guy.
@@EEvisu Have a girlfriend and grow up
Happy Wednesday Release!
*he said richter*
Riddles my goat 🔥
Nice
Toronto Represent 🔥🔥🔥😊
NA TOP 3
FRAUDPAN COULD NEVER
Cosmos was robbed 😭
sorry but NA sucks right now. it's just facts seeding makes sense it's NA's fault for being lazy
EE WHY DID U CUT OFF LIGHTS PRE JOHNS WITH PRIZE PICKS AD 😂😂😂
Had to get the ad in somewhere!
#FreeHax!!!
Cosmos was rightfully missing from top 50 lol
See idk about this. His later half of the season was pretty good, so I thought he'd be around 50 tbh. But Genesis and the other early tournament probably hurt him way too much
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w podcast
Yet another top 10 prediction:
1.Acola
2.Sonix
3.Miya
4.Tweek
5.Hurt
6.Shadic
7.Sparg0
8.Light
9.Shuton
10.TamaPdaifuku
Bro forgot TamaP got 129th at Kowloon x Kagaribi
@@Jumogas That's not included in this ranking, Kowloon Kagaribi is already the second half of the year.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 ohh right. Thanks
Ehhh
Well, the 20 to 11 part of the Lumirank just released. I was correct about who is in the top 10, at the very least. We'll have to see if I'm correct about the order.
Edit: Lol.
Yeah, you can def see "Japan Bias" in the commuinity, especially with the stats nerd group lmao. Honestly, I dont mind them being fans of Japan, its more using Japan to trash on NA out of some weird insecruity. Reminds me of people who treat Japan as a Utiopa despite only watching anime lol.
It is the best region results wise tbf. And also tbf in the other direction they have tournaments way more often. But yeah people can be cringe about it
@@benross9174 Yeah, both of those things are true, its mainly the trashing/cringe way of talking about NA that I take issue with. One can love Japan, while not being weird about NA
People trashing NA players are weird, but the Lumirank team is not made of such people.
@@theimpersonator7086 agreed
calling a Korean Japanese??? 😵😵😵
EE, i know you're in the team but, do you think Lumirank is biased because Luminosity is planning to do several invitationals?
I mean like to make the player have purpose and plays seriously on said invitational.
I don’t think they bias, I just think it is what it is lmao
TBH Japan bias is 70% of what’s killing this game. It’s a self perpetuating cycle. They have the most tournaments, and they are being weighted TOO heavily and now NA is going to have 3 players in the top 20, so next season unless NA invades Japan on the regular it’s only going to continue as random Japanese players pick up wins on an ever increasing base of ranked Japanese players and themselves get ranked. I understood when the bias started, the Japanese have some great players that deserve es spots in the ranking but the unintended byproduct is now every event is a S+ or P tier in Japan and it is impossible to keep up without practically moving to Japan.
There were 33 USA players in the first rankings nobody complained. Doesn’t even count Mexico or Canada even though they all attend the same tournaments.
Back then the mantra was “you should travel then if you wanna be the best”
Not so fun on the other side of it I guess
That's not true. First, there will be five players from the United States, 1 player from Mexico, 1 player from Guatemala and 1 player from the Dominican Republic in the top 20 of this season, which is considerably more than three players. Second, most majors in Japan last season were A tiers; 11/15 to be precise. NA, for comparison, had only 5 A tiers out of 10 majors total, so it actually had more supermajors.