I worked at a grain elevator and maintenance needed it emptied for repairs, we emptied it and they called saying why is it still full we said that's impossible we ran to empty that silo all night, they said well so and so is walking on soy beans, we went back and forth about it being full and empty, turns out it had formed a plug at the top of the silo, if it had broke loose that guy would of fallen 150 feet if his harness wasn't attached.
Wow. It's even more common for there to be air pockets, and when someone steps on top - even with a harness - they can instantly sink up to their chest or more, which alone can be fatal.
Crazy story. Very interesting. I have one issue though. He "would of" fallen 150ft? You mean would HAVE fallen 150ft or even "would've" would have worked! But NOT of. Of has no business being there.
@@lissakaye610Sure, there are women who do difficult, heavy, dangerous jobs. Are there women who know the percentage of deaths at work of men compared to women? And who think that it is intolerably wrong and that things must change? P.S. u.s. statistics, 91,888443% . Every year 4000-5000.
I remember going to the county fair growing up in Iowa and the Future Farmers of America used to have a safety demo where you would sit in a wooden box and they would fill it with shell corn up to your chest and then tell you to stand up. You couldn't stand up no matter how hard you tried. The goal was to demonstrate how dangerous moving grain was and how little it took to trap someone and how it would take several people to literally dig you out.
My father was a fire chief and paramedic when I was growing up. A call where a farmer jumped in the bin that had a firm crusted top layer that gave way, was one of the most memorable and sad cases. They couldn't get to him in time. I think of that man often. I am glad you train for this type of rescue. ❤
I am an engineer officer on a ship. Last time on board, on one company'ship one engineer with one motorman and a wiper opened one of the ship's sewage tanks which scheduled for a period repair. Previously the tank was flushed with sea water as per company internal regulations. All the pre-entry approvals were obtained. Upon opening the tank's lid, a strong rotten egg smell erupted from the barely cracked manhole cover. One of the ratings was overwhelmed by the amount of H2S and fainted. The other rating attempted to rescue his colleague. He fainted as well. The engineer who was in the vicinity felt the urge to rescue the other 2 guys. He didn't do it but he raised the alarm. The rescue party arrived on scene and retrieved the 2 fallen men. Luckily they recovered themselves as the gas dissipated. The 2 guys were handed to a medical team for checks and they were OK. Should the engineer attempt to rescue 2 fallen guys he could have been the 3 fallen person. Remember - they only opened the tank, not even removing the lid yet. They had 2 gas meters, they had 1 blower that was supposed to be installed to ventilate the tank, lights, 3 radios in the correct channel, the briefing for the jos was done. A risk assessment was also available and was discussed the evening before. The only thing that was not done (because was not required by the rules) was to turn the gas meters BEFORE opening the lid. For sure it will change soon. During our periodic (every 3 months) Confined Space Entering training we are also covering the situation presented in this video (engulfing situation). In the maritime industry the main cause of death is exactly the situation I told earlier. In most cases the victims are double as almost the second person who is "the saviour" will collapse next to his victim.
You need to ventilate the tank before even opening the hatch. Not all tanks are built so that can be effectively done but they should be, at least when the tank is indoors and might contain high concentration of bad gases.
@@skunkjobb You didn't understand. Read again. To ventilate a tank you have to open it first. Do you know how a ship is built? Do you have any connections with shipping? I don't think so.
I think for demo purposes, she and the rescue crew should have been wearing high quality dust masks! Don't underestimate the extra hazards from inhalation of that crud! She clearly stated it as a problem several times.... A seriously dangerous situation to find yourself in obviously, but for a safety demo.....maybe just add in extra protection!
she made it seem like it was nothing i literally work at the grain bins never gone through this training so that means i won’t ever get into a bin but no shit imagine getting paid barely above minimum wage to go do some shitty ass job if even done properly your suffocating in there regardless and don’t even get me started in the smell. imagine being trapped 80 feet above ground level in utter darkness just for your job that doesn’t pay hazard pay would you be scared?
@awright119021, that's exactly what training should instill in you. Take safety seriously or die! All accidents in grain bins or elevators are avoidable especially suffocation. Moving belts and other parts will not move! Never work alone. Notify all personnel you are entering the bin or silo. Lockout, tag out all power to sweep augers and post a guard at that location.
we had a farmer here in the uk fall in his grain silo and was soon engulfed by grain, the fire brigade were called and they had too cut a hole in the side of the silo too empty the grain and get him out unfortunately he was dead by the time they got him out,so training should be carried on all farms where they have grain silos and granaries where people might have physically go into the silo or work near silo
a neighbar got freed from a cattle feed grain silo with a crane and he had torn ligaments and tissue in his joints on his feet from being pulled - but he was in a chute to narrow to dig out
I knew a guy working at a feed mill in Decatur tx in the late 80s who fell in a boxcar of corn while they were unloading it, he died, it was terrible. His name was Dusty Morris. 18 years old
Worked for a farmer in college in Dekalb,Il...told me to go in and level grain with a shovel...started to go in center of silo when i realized,' this is fkd!!'...skirted to the side,climbed out,told him ' nope'.....
Winnebago county Illinois here. We had a silo death a few years ago and the witness couldn't do anything for the victim. Would be terrifying for both parties involved. Always use safety gear. Even if your an old school farmer. Hell even back in the day they would tie off
Very interesting and informative of the dangers of entering a silo. Well done, that lady or any volunteer that takes part in this demonstration and training exercise
What a serious video. Even the demonstration was dangerous. And after all that, it was a relief to see the guys step out of the silo also. I had no idea how quickly this became a serious situation. Much respect for everyone - the developers who made this, the crew training, and the volunteer victim who took a big risk. I hope this saves many lives!! ❤️
That happens so fast if they worked like this you will be long gone.i worked on farms in the us and always thought of like a system that when you activate it the whole grain bin shoots apart with hydraulics or i dont know.will make a huge mess but lifes will be saved.like a emergency button when you slam it the whole bin comes apart.
I've never seen any method of grain silo rescue, and hearing about how much pressure is on you when partially (or fully) covered, it sounds like rescue technology like this is really needed. I would just add that they might need something for the dust, in case it gets unbreathable for someone in distress.
So... you would need all that equipment and all those men to rescue you from a grain silo? What's the feasibility that you'd get all those resources in time; or have them readily available?
it's called one engine company (if they carry the equipment) if they don't have the equipment then that equipment might show up on a heavy rescue or else is never showing up
When you are using a chuckless drill you need to use your hand and the power of the drill to tighten the drill on the auger. So you need to grip the nose of the drill and have the drill go forward to tighten it up then switch to reverse.
I worked in mineral exploration in northern BC years back, we had an older avalanche technician who didn't like to use the word "rescue" when he was warning us about high risk areas and reminding us to test our beacons, he preferred to use "recovery".
I have a friend whose child passed away due to falling into their grain storage. Devastating is an understatement. I'm glad to see they have a way to rescue people.
Not grain silo, but i knew a girl who was riding on the edge of the box on a grain truck. She fell backward into the wheat and by the time the got the truck emptied out, she had suffocated.
Grain is evil. Especially corn + wheat. Go grain free. Animals are not meant to eat grain either. They eat grass. Species should eat proper diets. People only grow grain because its subsidized. Plus its full of sprays. 😮
I get trying to dig her out, but couldn’t they also vibrate the grain while pulling her out instead? Enough vibration would cause it to act like a liquid.
@TheKiltedWoodsman No, I haven’t. But vibrations cause grains to shift. I don’t know how much would be required to move this pile, but enough could cause the grains to attempt to settle while allowing movement. Vibrations are part of the processing for moving and separating grains.
@TheKiltedWoodsman And I looked into the liquidation, that occurs if air is also involved, being blown from below, which maybe isn’t realistic with a silo. A dude made a hot tub of sand, but that was just air, no vibrations involved.
I wonder if vertical baffles would help at all in the silos or add a grate to the top that grain can fall through easily but people cant. Not sure what the reason is for walking on the top of the grain other than MX on the silo
A vacuum is much better than that auger thing. Preferably a grain vac but a shop vac will work too. Use plywood for the walls. They're technically on the right track but far to clunky equipment.
@@farmerbill6855 I don’t think so, not at that thickness level. It’s a thin sheet so it can slide between the grain easily, plywood would be flimsy asf with the same thickness and would cause much more friction when being pushed down.
@@farmerbill6855that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. Just imagine a stick made out of plywood and the same dimensions bar of aluminum. You could break the first one on your hands and knee, no way you could do that with aluminum.
Did anybody think about the problem of using battery powered tools in an explosive atmosphere? I think for this situation an air powered drill would be safest. I would think that compressed air is readily available in a mill. Most cordless tools are brushless now but it would only take someone introducing an older drill with brushes into the situation in the "heat of the moment" to cause an explosion. The battery powered tools that I am aware of are not rated to be in an explosive atmosphere, so even a brushless would be technically unsafe. Also I suggest an adapter with the required female hex drive size to be used so people are not fiddling with the chuck adjustment in an emergency.
Morecambe bay in england is known for quicksand. I met a delightful elderly couple there. They grew up there where all kids know the escape drill. Lie back flat and wiggle one leg out. Not sure if its the same in grain though.
Can someone explain why farmers even go inside these silos in the first place? They should know the danger right? So, they go inside, jump up and down; then what do they think is going to happen? I mean, they're either going to fall through a plug or the grain starts shifting and then they're trapped. I don't get why you would bother with such a deadly risk, am I missing something?
It looks like the industry is moving towards zero entry, but if the grain isn't stored properly (gets and stays too wet or whatever) it can form clumps which have to be broken up somehow to empty the bin.
Hopefully, the focus on this kind of accident and the expense of protecting against it will encourage people who handle grain to find some way to manage it without having people walking on it.
Question, I don't believe that drill is intrinsically safe. With the grain dust does is pose an explosion hazard? Is it important to at least use a brushless drill?
And less likely to take a finger off? Also, all that dust kicked up by the auger, and the sparks in the DC motor of the drill seem risky. (Edit: I see in another comment that it's a brushless i.e."no spark" drill)
So what happens if you loop a rope under her arms, tie off anywhere, then dump grain until she's free enough to pull out? The rescue tubes seem unnecessarily complicated, to waste less grain?
I just went through training on this, it is because grain silos aren’t equipped with a dump, the only way to drain the grain is with the auger at the bottom, and doing that could very easily pull the victim into it and shred them. The other way to dump it would be cut a hole with a saw but grain dust is explosive, therefor there’s a lot of risk involved with that. Grain has a surprisingly large amount of pull and weight behind it, so even if you tie them off they could still be pulled in very strongly, breaking limbs or possibly even ripping the harness off and fully submerging them.
It would also potentially break their back or kill the casualty, the best way is literally a rescue tube and dig them out potentially with a rescue auger!
I think the issue is just the volume of grain. You see how long it takes even even they're blocking a ton of grain from coming in, imagine how long it would take to clear out an even bigger silo
i feel like this could be solved easily like put a really big door in every silo and get a remote that opens the door so that the silo will drain if u fall in there r prolly some engineers who’d slap me across the face if i suggested that tho so idk. but as of rn i don’t see why it wouldn’t work
if the silo starts to drain, it would sink the person under the grain which would die drowned, even if you try to do it fast in order to reduce this risk, this would create a lot of friction between the grain which can cause an explosion or ignition (as it happen every time a silo collapse). yeah, at first sight, I thought the same as you, but looking in several videos of real cases or try to rescue people trapped this way, we can see that this is not by any mean an easy solution.
Apart from other issues, the grain would be putting a ton of pressure on any door to the point that it would need to have incredibly powerful machinery to make it budge. Look at the kind of doors used in dam floodgates, and then consider that grain is 450-1000x denser then water
Grain bins are what’s called “confined spaces” because egress and ingress are difficult, and the environment can kill you (gases, lack of oxygen, flooding etc). It’s not about the size that makes it a confined space, it’s the environment.
I work in a grain elevator. If you move you sink quicker. Best bet is to lay down as much as you can & hopefully you don't die by the time someone hears you. We have walkie talkies though, but you'll be dead in our bins within a few minutes. I always tell new coworkers if they fall in we won't be able to save them 🤷♂️
one thinks she is doing a far quicker job with those scoops than those guys with that auger, they have no clue she needs to get out FAST, if her legs are constricted so is her blood flow, remember what happens in crushing injuries?[train or other vehicular crush]- they die if they get removed!!- the blood flow becomes toxic and these toxins get released into the body.
Just let everyone know if you sink down to your chest level. You're dead there. Ain't never going to get you out of there fast enough. I used to work in grain elevators and my job was to go inside the grain elevators while they still had grain in them and unplugged the pipes.
It would've been faster to hoist some cows up there to eat the grain. 🤦 A couple of heavy planks to keep her form sinking and drain enough grain to get free. 5 min and out. 💁
If you're rescuing someone maybe communicate with them what's happening to and what's going to happen. She was stressed and she knew she was safe. Imagine if it was a real situation.
I thought a VACUUM! But that produces sparks- could blow EVERYONE up! A pneumatic vacuum would work, but who the hell has an unlimited supply of high pressure air??!! The ingersol rand towables would be handy. Bbut also a vacuum attatchment? Though one could possibly be made quickly with the right scraps around if you know what to do.
Horrible design on the interface to the drill. It really needs to be a positive locking quick connect. They have wasted more time trying to get the drill on the auger.
@@psychokiller9824she sure was. Especially the end when they asked her to step out and she said, "where do I step?" 🙄 step back in the grain hole, my god.
Probably to simulate the grain dust, I had to do similar training for the ambulance service as I'm a hazardous area response team medic, my job also occasionally involves overseas secondments and deployments! So I have to be prepared for most situations!
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I worked at a grain elevator and maintenance needed it emptied for repairs, we emptied it and they called saying why is it still full we said that's impossible we ran to empty that silo all night, they said well so and so is walking on soy beans, we went back and forth about it being full and empty, turns out it had formed a plug at the top of the silo, if it had broke loose that guy would of fallen 150 feet if his harness wasn't attached.
Wow. It's even more common for there to be air pockets, and when someone steps on top - even with a harness - they can instantly sink up to their chest or more, which alone can be fatal.
Crazy story. Very interesting.
I have one issue though.
He "would of" fallen 150ft?
You mean would HAVE fallen 150ft or even "would've" would have worked!
But NOT of. Of has no business being there.
@@commiecomrade2644 wow, you're annoying af. You must really need attention, yikes.
@commiecomrade2644 yeah he's not very literate haha
@@commiecomrade2644 Have course you would say that!
I never realised this was such a serious situation. Huge respect to you all, and the whole industry.
I hope she now understand how hazardous men's job is
@@pan2aja you must be swimming in 🐔 huh.
@@pan2aja yeah, cause no women work hazardous jobs…🙄
@lissakaye610 did I say No woman ever 😅
@@lissakaye610Sure, there are women who do difficult, heavy, dangerous jobs.
Are there women who know the percentage of deaths at work of men compared to women?
And who think that it is intolerably wrong and that things must change?
P.S. u.s. statistics, 91,888443% . Every year 4000-5000.
I remember going to the county fair growing up in Iowa and the Future Farmers of America used to have a safety demo where you would sit in a wooden box and they would fill it with shell corn up to your chest and then tell you to stand up. You couldn't stand up no matter how hard you tried. The goal was to demonstrate how dangerous moving grain was and how little it took to trap someone and how it would take several people to literally dig you out.
The rescue method in this video was mind blowing
So this would be way more lethal than quick sands ? …
I could get up
Shoutout to Keokuk and marshalltown from your neighbors to the north.
@@iAmIronMan0605sure, but still corny.
My father was a fire chief and paramedic when I was growing up. A call where a farmer jumped in the bin that had a firm crusted top layer that gave way, was one of the most memorable and sad cases. They couldn't get to him in time. I think of that man often. I am glad you train for this type of rescue. ❤
I am an engineer officer on a ship. Last time on board, on one company'ship one engineer with one motorman and a wiper opened one of the ship's sewage tanks which scheduled for a period repair. Previously the tank was flushed with sea water as per company internal regulations. All the pre-entry approvals were obtained. Upon opening the tank's lid, a strong rotten egg smell erupted from the barely cracked manhole cover. One of the ratings was overwhelmed by the amount of H2S and fainted. The other rating attempted to rescue his colleague. He fainted as well. The engineer who was in the vicinity felt the urge to rescue the other 2 guys. He didn't do it but he raised the alarm. The rescue party arrived on scene and retrieved the 2 fallen men. Luckily they recovered themselves as the gas dissipated. The 2 guys were handed to a medical team for checks and they were OK. Should the engineer attempt to rescue 2 fallen guys he could have been the 3 fallen person. Remember - they only opened the tank, not even removing the lid yet. They had 2 gas meters, they had 1 blower that was supposed to be installed to ventilate the tank, lights, 3 radios in the correct channel, the briefing for the jos was done. A risk assessment was also available and was discussed the evening before. The only thing that was not done (because was not required by the rules) was to turn the gas meters BEFORE opening the lid. For sure it will change soon. During our periodic (every 3 months) Confined Space Entering training we are also covering the situation presented in this video (engulfing situation).
In the maritime industry the main cause of death is exactly the situation I told earlier. In most cases the victims are double as almost the second person who is "the saviour" will collapse next to his victim.
You need to ventilate the tank before even opening the hatch. Not all tanks are built so that can be effectively done but they should be, at least when the tank is indoors and might contain high concentration of bad gases.
@@skunkjobb You didn't understand. Read again. To ventilate a tank you have to open it first. Do you know how a ship is built? Do you have any connections with shipping? I don't think so.
Таже ситуация с погребами в частных домах где хранят картофель. Погибали целые семьи, пытаясь спасти один другого.
This is why men should be paid more than women. Their job are dangerous
Hydrogen disulfide is no joke man. In the oilfield you always are keeping an eye on that windsock. Pulled one guy off location that was out cold.
I think for demo purposes, she and the rescue crew should have been wearing high quality dust masks! Don't underestimate the extra hazards from inhalation of that crud! She clearly stated it as a problem several times....
A seriously dangerous situation to find yourself in obviously, but for a safety demo.....maybe just add in extra protection!
That looked terrifying for her and it was a simulation. I can't imagine the fear someone actually stuck would have.
she made it seem like it was nothing i literally work at the grain bins never gone through this training so that means i won’t ever get into a bin but no shit imagine getting paid barely above minimum wage to go do some shitty ass job if even done properly your suffocating in there regardless and don’t even get me started in the smell. imagine being trapped 80 feet above ground level in utter darkness just for your job that doesn’t pay hazard pay would you be scared?
😂😂😂
You’ll get over it someday.
Hope she gain experience to make better managerial decision in the future
@awright119021, that's exactly what training should instill in you. Take safety seriously or die! All accidents in grain bins or elevators are avoidable especially suffocation. Moving belts and other parts will not move! Never work alone. Notify all personnel you are entering the bin or silo. Lockout, tag out all power to sweep augers and post a guard at that location.
we had a farmer here in the uk fall in his grain silo and was soon engulfed by grain, the fire brigade were called and they had too cut a hole in the side of the silo too empty the grain and get him out unfortunately he was dead by the time they got him out,so training should be carried on all farms where they have grain silos and granaries where people might have physically go into the silo or work near silo
a neighbar got freed from a cattle feed grain silo with a crane and he had torn ligaments and tissue in his joints on his feet from being pulled - but he was in a chute to narrow to dig out
I knew a guy working at a feed mill in Decatur tx in the late 80s who fell in a boxcar of corn while they were unloading it, he died, it was terrible. His name was Dusty
Morris. 18 years old
Those drills usually have a spark. Especially the ones with brushed motors. I heard from other comments that the grain dust can be flammable?
Very flammable
Explosive 💥
It's a brushless drill. The announcer said so.
@Jesse-Rodriguez good ears. Thanks for sharing that.
Any dust IS EXPLOSIVE! ... if fine enough.
Worked for a farmer in college in Dekalb,Il...told me to go in and level grain with a shovel...started to go in center of silo when i realized,' this is fkd!!'...skirted to the side,climbed out,told him ' nope'.....
She mentioned one of the biggest issues, the dust generated in a silo. It can cause asphyxiation very quickly.
Winnebago county Illinois here. We had a silo death a few years ago and the witness couldn't do anything for the victim. Would be terrifying for both parties involved. Always use safety gear. Even if your an old school farmer. Hell even back in the day they would tie off
Very interesting and informative of the dangers of entering a silo. Well done, that lady or any volunteer that takes part in this demonstration and training exercise
What a serious video. Even the demonstration was dangerous. And after all that, it was a relief to see the guys step out of the silo also. I had no idea how quickly this became a serious situation. Much respect for everyone - the developers who made this, the crew training, and the volunteer victim who took a big risk. I hope this saves many lives!! ❤️
Decades ago a guy I went to high school with.. his father died in just that way.. he worked in a grain elevator and got sucked down into the grain
Technical rescue operator here, they did a phenomenal job. Everybody working there should feel much safer with them as coworkers
That happens so fast if they worked like this you will be long gone.i worked on farms in the us and always thought of like a system that when you activate it the whole grain bin shoots apart with hydraulics or i dont know.will make a huge mess but lifes will be saved.like a emergency button when you slam it the whole bin comes apart.
I've never seen any method of grain silo rescue, and hearing about how much pressure is on you when partially (or fully) covered, it sounds like rescue technology like this is really needed. I would just add that they might need something for the dust, in case it gets unbreathable for someone in distress.
V E R Y unbreathabley dusty!
A mask would be so easy! Some are super breathable
So... you would need all that equipment and all those men to rescue you from a grain silo? What's the feasibility that you'd get all those resources in time; or have them readily available?
There must be a better way ...
it's called one engine company (if they carry the equipment) if they don't have the equipment then that equipment might show up on a heavy rescue or else is never showing up
This is why I always carry a microwave.
😂😂😂
Lol that's something Dale would say too
Why not add PPE for sound and air quality safety?
When you are using a chuckless drill you need to use your hand and the power of the drill to tighten the drill on the auger. So you need to grip the nose of the drill and have the drill go forward to tighten it up then switch to reverse.
One other big issue would be if you got to your chest area breathing due to the pressure of the corn may effect breathing…
I worked in mineral exploration in northern BC years back, we had an older avalanche technician who didn't like to use the word "rescue" when he was warning us about high risk areas and reminding us to test our beacons, he preferred to use "recovery".
I have a friend whose child passed away due to falling into their grain storage. Devastating is an understatement. I'm glad to see they have a way to rescue people.
Its smart that they brought along that metal coffin. It should save some time when disposing of the dead body.
😂😂😂😂
That's dark! 😮
But also very funny
"I did not feel Jake get in". Poor Jake 😂
Not grain silo, but i knew a girl who was riding on the edge of the box on a grain truck. She fell backward into the wheat and by the time the got the truck emptied out, she had suffocated.
I’ve heard of other farmers being overcome by grain in the back of their trucks too. It’s way to easy to underestimate the danger of grain
I would rather see tools developed that would prevent the need for any human to get in the grain bin in the first place
The moral of this story is never go inside a grain silo
Grain is evil. Especially corn + wheat. Go grain free. Animals are not meant to eat grain either. They eat grass. Species should eat proper diets. People only grow grain because its subsidized. Plus its full of sprays. 😮
I used to go corn crib diving from the barn rafters as a kid. Worked great for cover sent before deer hunting.
I actually worked on a plank over a silo on school work experience. In those days we didnt even have hard hats.
Id def volunteer for demos like this it feels like a super fun experience. Im being absolutely serious
Maybe a some sort of heavy duty industrial vacuum could suck the grain out instead of using an auger.
if im not mistaking the grain dust can catch fire so why the power drill ? it makes sparks it can turn the silo in to a bom
it's a brushless drill. if it's making sparks then something is drastically wrong with it. and yeah don't use a brushed drill
I get trying to dig her out, but couldn’t they also vibrate the grain while pulling her out instead? Enough vibration would cause it to act like a liquid.
Probably not what you would want if stuck in a real scenario. Could cause you to sink even farther than you already are.
Have you ever tried to move tons of corn/beans? It doesn't work like that
@@roberthill6738 My last comment was removed, but I said “while pulling her out”.
@TheKiltedWoodsman No, I haven’t. But vibrations cause grains to shift. I don’t know how much would be required to move this pile, but enough could cause the grains to attempt to settle while allowing movement.
Vibrations are part of the processing for moving and separating grains.
@TheKiltedWoodsman And I looked into the liquidation, that occurs if air is also involved, being blown from below, which maybe isn’t realistic with a silo.
A dude made a hot tub of sand, but that was just air, no vibrations involved.
Hopefully everyone would be that calm during a rescue
The amount of time for set up and execution this would be most likely a body recovery instead of a rescue.
Neighbours 3 kids died a few years back playing in the back of a grain truck. Grain pile avalanched on them, tragic & horrible.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That is so devastating 😞
Why did he dump the scoop of corn on her head?
probably because training and why not
idk
A harmless goof
I wonder if vertical baffles would help at all in the silos or add a grate to the top that grain can fall through easily but people cant. Not sure what the reason is for walking on the top of the grain other than MX on the silo
Im curious if something like snowshoes would be wise to use.
Nope cause the usualy there îs a pocket which snaps n u fall into and than the top piles over
@@robsinternationalmusicbox true you would just end up getting stuck more if the grain falls on top of the snow shoe
A vacuum is much better than that auger thing. Preferably a grain vac but a shop vac will work too. Use plywood for the walls. They're technically on the right track but far to clunky equipment.
Yep a large shop vac would do well too
Plywood would break
@@bobjamaica9045 not hardly, plywood is much stronger than aluminum.
@@farmerbill6855 I don’t think so, not at that thickness level. It’s a thin sheet so it can slide between the grain easily, plywood would be flimsy asf with the same thickness and would cause much more friction when being pushed down.
@@farmerbill6855that's an absolutely ridiculous statement. Just imagine a stick made out of plywood and the same dimensions bar of aluminum. You could break the first one on your hands and knee, no way you could do that with aluminum.
Did anybody think about the problem of using battery powered tools in an explosive atmosphere? I think for this situation an air powered drill would be safest. I would think that compressed air is readily available in a mill. Most cordless tools are brushless now but it would only take someone introducing an older drill with brushes into the situation in the "heat of the moment" to cause an explosion. The battery powered tools that I am aware of are not rated to be in an explosive atmosphere, so even a brushless would be technically unsafe. Also I suggest an adapter with the required female hex drive size to be used so people are not fiddling with the chuck adjustment in an emergency.
far harder to get air 100 feet to the top of a silo. also it's a BRUSHLESS drill. if it makes sparks then something is seriously wrong with it
I don't know what kind of grain that is but I'm in the mood to make some popcorn now
Morecambe bay in england is known for quicksand. I met a delightful elderly couple there. They grew up there where all kids know the escape drill. Lie back flat and wiggle one leg out. Not sure if its the same in grain though.
How about specialized shoes of sort?
Can someone explain why farmers even go inside these silos in the first place?
They should know the danger right? So, they go inside, jump up and down; then what do they think is going to happen?
I mean, they're either going to fall through a plug or the grain starts shifting and then they're trapped.
I don't get why you would bother with such a deadly risk, am I missing something?
It looks like the industry is moving towards zero entry, but if the grain isn't stored properly (gets and stays too wet or whatever) it can form clumps which have to be broken up somehow to empty the bin.
She was a great sport!
Is this a common enough occurrence to warrant the equipment?
Unfortunately, yes. There were 22 cases of people trapped in grain in the US in 2022.
If it saves a life! Then yes.
Hopefully, the focus on this kind of accident and the expense of protecting against it will encourage people who handle grain to find some way to manage it without having people walking on it.
Yes many people have died
Quite common
Question, I don't believe that drill is intrinsically safe. With the grain dust does is pose an explosion hazard? Is it important to at least use a brushless drill?
He literally says in the video that the drill is a brushless drill. Hence no sparks generated. It's safe.
Seems they COULD make the panels out of lexan/polycarbonate so it would be slightly less claustrophobic?
And less likely to take a finger off?
Also, all that dust kicked up by the auger, and the sparks in the DC motor of the drill seem risky.
(Edit: I see in another comment that it's a brushless i.e."no spark" drill)
Why they dont have a hex socket on the drill and nut ont the auger drive I'll never know
Working harder than smarter
Yep that drill shank drive is poorly engineered or lacking it. Wasted a lot of time trying to tighten a drill chuck on it,
@@richceglinski7543 It looks like a hex shaft to me. It just took a bit to get it tightened on there.
I know at our department we reto-fitted a driver bit to it
I landed on piles through the roof of silos as a kid. Never got stuck
How is it that "Rescue Professionals " have their fall protection harnesses on incorrectly?
Would you still sink if a person was laying flat?
I have a suggestion, if it is not renovated, it is like there is a roof and then it is given as a handrail, on the roof, make it all round
I have no idea how this ended up on the feed, but I'm better for it 👍
So what happens if you loop a rope under her arms, tie off anywhere, then dump grain until she's free enough to pull out? The rescue tubes seem unnecessarily complicated, to waste less grain?
I just went through training on this, it is because grain silos aren’t equipped with a dump, the only way to drain the grain is with the auger at the bottom, and doing that could very easily pull the victim into it and shred them. The other way to dump it would be cut a hole with a saw but grain dust is explosive, therefor there’s a lot of risk involved with that. Grain has a surprisingly large amount of pull and weight behind it, so even if you tie them off they could still be pulled in very strongly, breaking limbs or possibly even ripping the harness off and fully submerging them.
@@alexsawchuk5371Good points
It would also potentially break their back or kill the casualty, the best way is literally a rescue tube and dig them out potentially with a rescue auger!
Exactly!
I think the issue is just the volume of grain. You see how long it takes even even they're blocking a ton of grain from coming in, imagine how long it would take to clear out an even bigger silo
But what if it's more than wait high?
Like up to her shoulders?
Why did the wheat stalk win an award? It was outstanding in its field. 😂
Is there a reason they couldnt just install a grid of bars across the top of the silo?
i feel like this could be solved easily
like put a really big door in every silo and get a remote that opens the door so that the silo will drain if u fall in
there r prolly some engineers who’d slap me across the face if i suggested that tho so idk. but as of rn i don’t see why it wouldn’t work
if the silo starts to drain, it would sink the person under the grain which would die drowned, even if you try to do it fast in order to reduce this risk, this would create a lot of friction between the grain which can cause an explosion or ignition (as it happen every time a silo collapse).
yeah, at first sight, I thought the same as you, but looking in several videos of real cases or try to rescue people trapped this way, we can see that this is not by any mean an easy solution.
Apart from other issues, the grain would be putting a ton of pressure on any door to the point that it would need to have incredibly powerful machinery to make it budge. Look at the kind of doors used in dam floodgates, and then consider that grain is 450-1000x denser then water
Is it possible to use air so it can work as powder paint in a batch?
I watched a movie about this last year. I think it was called Silo? It was a good movie about a very real problem.
I used play in corn cribs as a kid. Scariest thing was getting corn stuck in your ear
What is the need to walk around in silos on top of grains if it's known to be dangerous?
shows us one usage tip, NEVER trust someone's life to a battery drill!!!! use a HEAVY Mains powered one, to get that grain out FAST!!!!
Looks cumbersome in a perfect scenario. Good idea could use some tweaks
My cousin died in a grain silo as a kid many years ago.
Those drills have a commonly unknow chuck locking mechanism, looks like operator was un aware of it
First thing I would have said the moment I was trapped… “I need to pee.” 😂😂😂
I wish id counted how many times she said "theres so much dust"....it actually got quite annoying after a while....
😂 true
Grain bins are what’s called “confined spaces” because egress and ingress are difficult, and the environment can kill you (gases, lack of oxygen, flooding etc).
It’s not about the size that makes it a confined space, it’s the environment.
I have yet to see someone actually try hard to get out tho like it seems like they just stand there I would be freakin out!!
They just can’t get out
Your locked in. Your more likely to tear your ligaments and muscle then getting out from struggling. Struggling will make you sink more.
I work in a grain elevator. If you move you sink quicker. Best bet is to lay down as much as you can & hopefully you don't die by the time someone hears you. We have walkie talkies though, but you'll be dead in our bins within a few minutes. I always tell new coworkers if they fall in we won't be able to save them 🤷♂️
@@Justin-zj7lrreally? How many people have died?
What’s going on?
She was just standing there.
What did they turn on?
@MattShine11 i think the movement of grain can happen when they move it into semi trailers and rail cars
I found this interesting.
one thinks she is doing a far quicker job with those scoops than those guys with that auger, they have no clue she needs to get out FAST, if her legs are constricted so is her blood flow, remember what happens in crushing injuries?[train or other vehicular crush]- they die if they get removed!!- the blood flow becomes toxic and these toxins get released into the body.
Just let everyone know if you sink down to your chest level. You're dead there. Ain't never going to get you out of there fast enough. I used to work in grain elevators and my job was to go inside the grain elevators while they still had grain in them and unplugged the pipes.
never seen the inside of a silo but now they give me nightmares
This seems like a very cumbersome and very slow process when seconds count…this would need a revisit to the drawing board….
Hard to stand there; in the pouring grain....
So does it work without something draining it at the bottom.
It would've been faster to hoist some cows up there to eat the grain. 🤦 A couple of heavy planks to keep her form sinking and drain enough grain to get free. 5 min and out. 💁
Does this work with pigeons too?
Only at Russian "Grain Factories"
I know of someone who died in a silo where horse feed was made. Terrible.
Great job !!
Interesting 👍👍👍
If you're rescuing someone maybe communicate with them what's happening to and what's going to happen. She was stressed and she knew she was safe. Imagine if it was a real situation.
This seems incredibly slow. Am I missing something?
I thought a VACUUM! But that produces sparks- could blow EVERYONE up! A pneumatic vacuum would work, but who the hell has an unlimited supply of high pressure air??!! The ingersol rand towables would be handy. Bbut also a vacuum attatchment? Though one could possibly be made quickly with the right scraps around if you know what to do.
What happens when two grains of wheat fall in love? They have a gluten-free wedding. 😂
Horrible design on the interface to the drill. It really needs to be a positive locking quick connect. They have wasted more time trying to get the drill on the auger.
So much of our food is stepped on 😂 all I got from this
You have no idea what I've seen go into our food.
Hoping they provide victim/s with face mask to filter out the dust while rescuing them. Great invention! 👍
.... that takes an awful long time to assemble and get working if someone has sank so far in that their head is under the grain and can't breath!
Test in oil seeds like "canola" slipper shaped seeds. Drop through very quickly, deadly!
why did he pour grain on her head
Because she was annoying
@@psychokiller9824she sure was. Especially the end when they asked her to step out and she said, "where do I step?" 🙄 step back in the grain hole, my god.
Probably to simulate the grain dust, I had to do similar training for the ambulance service as I'm a hazardous area response team medic, my job also occasionally involves overseas secondments and deployments! So I have to be prepared for most situations!
Audio is very difficult to understand.
thinkin about that clip of them pidgeons