Solving a woodworking problem we ALL have
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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Fixing the engineering mistake on the DeWalt benchtop planer... its dust exhaust location. You know as well as I do that this was a major oversight in the design. Any hose that you attach droops down right where the wood is fed out and you have to lift your hose to have it not get knocked off. I designed an easy aftermarket bracket system to fix this problem. It is made from Baltic birch plywood, some common hardware and two bought components that you can get at either @rockler or @WoodcraftSupply .
Here's links to each of those:
4" ID coupler Woodcraft:
www.woodcraft....
4" coupler Rockler:
www.rockler.co...
4" 45 degree elbow Woodcraft:
www.woodcraft....
4" 45 degree elbow Rockler:
www.rockler.co...
As I mentioned in the video, leave a comment if having plans for this interests you, or tell me about another way that you solved the dust collection problems on your particular planer. I would love to get into the world of plan making for woodworking projects.
Either way, hope you enjoyed and can implement something like this on your lunchbox planer.
See you next week!
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Strong Feedback for Plans, so here they are: www.etsy.com/shop/stillworksplans/?etsrc=sdt
That was quick. Thanks!
@@TomTensfeldt I’m committed to the satisfaction of my audience hahah
I said "Snipe!" and looked around quickly to see if anyone heard me. 😀 That's a very compact design. I have a U coming out of my stand at 45 deg angle to keep the hoste off the planed pieces. Well done! Oh, and nice editing. Informative voice over.
Thank you kindly
YES, YES, YES, YES, YES! this is of grrreattt interest! And if you talk to any physics instructor worth their weight in Aerogel they would tell you that nothing in the universe actually sucks... "there is a decrease in pressure from one area to the next..." yep, I call bull shrimp on that quote--- if something sucks then well it... sucks and as much as I love my planer (aka thicknesser for our friends across the pond) the position of the dust collection sucks a$$. Plans would be a wonderful thing!
Glad I’m not alone in my hatred of that thing. Thanks Mike
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Now that was a very nice fix indeed! Well done! 👍👍
That sh*t annoyed me so much
Yes. Plans would be great. Great job on the fix
Thank you and noted
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love the choice of baltic birch. Great looking solution.
There he is
We must be riding the same wave because I have a video coming up tomorrow about this same planer (as well as next Saturday). I like your design, great job. Dust collection is one of the topics I tackle as well.
I curse that dust collection literally every time I use it. Looking Woodward to seeing what you’ve got in store
Nice fix! Thanks for showing us!
And thanks for watching!
Cool & useful build video! It was great meeting you at WBC!
Same buddy!
I literally received this planer less than an hour ago. Your solution looks elegant and functional so that's definitely a win. Feel free to let us know if you need help providing measurements if this model had any revisions between years. Thanks!
Appreciate that!
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@@Stillworks Awesome! Can't wait to check them out. Thank you!
@@nxsmotorsports I aim to please
I have that planer. It was my first major woodworking tool purchase. A couple of years later I bought a drum sander, and that caused a semi-retirement for the planer. It's still in the lineup, but virtually never gets used. I don't plan to sell it, as I'm sure I'll need it at some point down the road. I agree that the dust port is in a terrible location. I have wondered how that ever made it to market. But overall, it's a great machine for what it does. It has never let me down. It's loud, but I wear hearing protection when working in the shop. I don't love the snipe it leaves behind (which is one reason I wanted a drum sander), and I thought this video was going to be about how to eliminate snipe. Anyway, great vid, great design, and great execution of your design. I could see this being popular enough that other owners of this planer would want plans.
Thank you for the kind words. You want to know my tip for absolutely eliminating snipe? - leave your parts 3-4 inches long while planing so you can cut the snipe off. Hahah bad answer but snipe never sneaks into my builds
same problem. Plans would be great - thank you.
Noted Steve
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I use a 45 elbow facing up and a suspended bungee on the hose. Collector's suction pulls it up even more.
Good solution. I like to use my planer pulled out in the middle of the shop so a hanging bungee doesn’t work for me. I def considered other work-arounds but having it blow sawdust through my shop 2 times in a week made me break out the big engineering guns
Yes well done but for me I just find a way to keep the hose out of the way not worth the time and effort of building this support. But love you guys who are constantly engineering fixes love to watch.
Thank you! I knocked the hose off and blow sawdust throughout my shop 2 times in one week, so drastic measures had to be taken haha
I made a wooden coupler, and attached my old Sears Craftsman shopvac.
Problem (?) solved.
Whatever works for you. This is focused more toward those with central dust collection with a 4” hose, as it’s heavy enough to droop. But I’m glad you figured out another way
Great work-around!
Thank you friend
I would definitely like plans for this awesome solution to the planer hose. Thanks.
Noted thank you
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Plans would be great. Thanks.
Noted
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Plans would be wonderful. I really like your solution
Noted Tom, thank you
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Very nice! I wheel my planer next to my bandsaw (which gives up one of its hoses for the planer--thanks to magport) so that I can rest the hose on the bandsaw's table. Not nearly as good as what you have created. Thanks for the work you put in to share this with everyone.
It looks like the arm could be longer to give more attachment points for the brackets that support the hose. And if I do this, I will probably hinge the arm so that I can collapse it back on itself and reduce the footprint when not in use. 👍
Also, not sure you need the elbow first. Maybe the flex hose can make that bend?
Great idea. Yea the prototype could definitely be improved in V2
Made mine out of 4" pvc to direct the chips sideways 20 years ago. Cheap quicker. Works great!
My inspiration for building this is the shear stress on the magport connections overcoming the strength of the magnets. With a Friction fit of permanent connection, I agree that other solutions would be easier. But sometimes you build just to build, ya know
Yes. Plans would be great.
Noted
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Kind of wish you would work with "A Glimpse Inside" chanel and have them make this in a kit. I've buy it in a heart beat. Please include the 45 elbow. @aglimpseinside always seems to be looking for new products. A win win?
That’s funny because I met him last weekend at Workbench Con
Awesome! I’d love to see plans. Subbed 👍
Thank you and noted
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I don't have a Dewalt lunchbox (have a Rigid), but brilliant job on that.
Thank you friend
Absolutely, plans would be helpful!
Noted
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Excellent! Thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed
Yes. Plans would be very helpful.
Notes, thank you!
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Kind of a disappointing oversight by Dewalt considering their smaller cheaper one ejects out the side... At least they used to. Nice vid.
So true, I used to have the other Dewalt planer as well
Great idea
Thank you sir
This is very good project and I am interested in your plan !
Thank you and noted!
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Very useful video, would love you to share your plans
Thank you and noted
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I’d love some plans! Thanks man!
Noted
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I have mine permanently attached to the dewalt tablesaw collapsable stand and the hose drapes over that and is never in the way.
it's also much easier to move around and use that way. If I were to every give it a permanent home, I might do something like this.
The stand i have came with the planer as a package deal they run pretty often at rockler
Great design. I used a clip to hold the hose to the port, then a wire loop from above to keep the hose out of the way. Ugly but works.
I was thinking about something simple like that but I like to wheel my planer out into the center of the shop to use it so a hanging thing wasn’t going to work for me. I see how that would work if it was more stationary or you use it closer to a wall
Just 3D print an elbow. Job done.
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Or just buy a 90 degree duct elbow with a 6-12" piece of duct running to the side of the planer to attach your hose to. Almost what he did here but instead he opted for a 45 degree elbow... and has the extra run of duct just running straight out the back... still in the way. In fact... if he just flipped the hard duct around where and connected the 45 directly to the planer and then the extension to then attach the hose to it would make more sense.... and you wouldn't need the DIY arm to hold the hose out of the way.... it would just be out of the way.
I’m sure there’s 100 other solutions, this is mine
Mon-o-man that’s a lot of work. When I got my dewalt planer 5 years ago I just used 2 bungee cords. One long enough to go around the 4” collector hose and a longer one to pull the hose to the side via an eye hook on the rafter of my garage. It’s worked perfectly since day one. It costed around $7 and only takes me about 45 seconds to hook it up whenever I want to use the planer.
Really nice work though.
Sometimes the over-engineered creativity kicks in, there are definitely more simple solutions out there
Yep. I’m interested in plans.
Roger that
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I can’t even get the fold down tables here in NZ. Only Americans have access to them.
Sounds like you need to get a smuggling operation set up
What is this 'magport' you are showing?
I have a link in my dust collection video from about 2 weeks ago
What a great idea got this same problem and would love plans that would be great
Thank you and noted
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Plans please!
Noted
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I like the implementation of parts and end result, but I would rather attach all this support stuff to the dedicated cart/table than to the planer itself. That way you could just simply detach the hose (or in this case coupling) in order to transport or service the planer. All the dust collection stuff stays with the cart/table.
Really good thought, my thinking was if this was to ever become plans, then the constant would be the planer itself while people’s carts would be different.
@@Stillworks
Then have it become the anchor the planer sits on. Piece of 3/4 under the entire planer, then the one corner having a post. You could then show how the post could be retrofitted to existing tops
@@MrNside smart man. Last dilemma to solve is for the user that doesn’t use a cart and moves it onto a workbench to operate. Would you think an undermount and post system would be reasonable there? I suppose it could still travel with the unit in that case
@@Stillworks
You can't please everyone or accommodate every use case. I suppose that could also apply to my post. However, I see most planers having a dedicated home, or at least platform.
As for the plywood base, yeah, the idea is that it can move with the planer, or doesn't have to. Or for someone that doesn't want to commit to modifying whatever surface it regularly sits on. And the difference is still just disconnecting the hose whether you take the plywood base/dust-hose-arm or not, as opposed to having to dig out wrenches to unbolt it.
I'm not saying your idea is bad. Not even in the slightest. For people with a similar use case to yours, it might make the most sense. I just think there might be a wider market for a similar support that doesn't require tools to detach it from the planer.
@@MrNside good thoughts, I will see how much demand is generated before doing anything I suppose
It doesn’t suck… it blows. 😂
Hahah, it figuratively sucks
Plans!!
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I have had 2 different "lunch box" planers including the Dewalt. I will not buy (or use) them anymore because of the snipe. Until I win the lottery and can but a big floor model with industrial in and out feed tables I will use my aluminum router sled and router. Yes it sucks for small projects but not as much as snipe. Yea MDF planer sleds blah blah blah.
I'll buy a "lunch box planer" when someone figures out to use a one piece cast iron table like on a jointer. Jointer tables don't fold why should planer tables?
Haha true. Or, do what I do, and leave your pieces 3-4 inches long when milling so you can just cut the snipe off…
@@Stillworks Lol I've done that but I mostly use expensive hardwood and most of my projects are too big to fit through it anyway. :(
@@Book-Gnomepreset excellent idea there. I would be totally fine working around unfolding wings if it meant less snipe.
Plastic elbow and your done period
Tried that and with heavy 4 inch flex hose putting a shear stress on the magport connection was making it pop free. That property is the inspiration for this build
Rockler Dust Right Quick Change 4'' Elbow Tool Port works perfectly.
This is woodworking problem YOU have.
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10 seconds in. Nope, nope, nope. This is not the "lunch box" planer. The DW734 12½" planer is the "lunch box", because it looks like a lunch box.
This is a DW735 13" model. Strike one.
Let me guess, upgrade the cutter?
He’s a sassy fella
This is an issue YOU have.
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