THE LIST - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_K3ziSxT9zcUUGCddS4sF1uNJTWHSbOwB1CQX2Rx4Uo Add stuff you find to the wiki - lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo_of_the_Lost_Wiki GOG Homepage - www.gog.com/partner/mandalore?pp=ea44f9f30a420daae75cc97b35ace35e373be70a Consider this format more of an anomaly for this game and I'll be back to the regular stuff next time.
Also, please check out Pathologic at some point, even if it takes two years (it's old, it's russian, it's often described as weird and obscure, it's just made for you)
Don't worry about schedules, just do what you can when you feel like it. And when it comes to games like this, I'd be excited no matter how long it'd take.
Also, I keep hearing this particular voice a lot, it's found at about 10:52, and I heard the same thing from Ultimate Muscle Roller Legend, where is that audio from?
One voice actor, playing 5 characters, trying to harmonise with himself in the song at the end of the game is just - I never thought something so horrible yet funny could have ever existed on the retail market.
there's something so fascinating about how little tension this game has. like, even the scariest of monsters have a habit of greeting you politely, and even in dungeons and sewers most of the npcs seem more interested in peacefully going about their lives than fucking with you in any capacity. briggs is barely stressed at all during the entire narrative. it's crazy funny and weirdly welcoming.
You know those games like Eversion that pretend to be cute and wholesome but then turn really dark part of the way through? This game is like the opposite of that. I'd actually love to see an indie horror game do this sort of thing, but without being plagiarized garbage.
I legit have nightmares about game called KILLER 7. I saw something about it, somethere i don't know, and then i start to have weird dreams. On several years ago i accidently stumble upon it, while surfing randomly, got catch on game No More Heros, search for more games of same company aaand... i found it, i watch lets play on that game (KILLER 7) HORRIBLY trippy game for unsuspected user, very DREAM LIKE
I want an interview with the creator. Not to shame or humiliate him for the game, just purely out of morbid curiosity into what he was thinking through the whole development.
The smiling of the main protagonist are by far the best part of the game. This little bit of happiness you see in his eyes are a reason to give it game of the year.
To be honest I'm not even mad, this amount of stealing took planning and dedication much beyond what I could ever muster. Seriously, stealing that Indiana Jones whistle from Serious Sam instead of whistling it themselves is just on another level.
Yup, they would have used the editing tools in every one of those game to steal the assets from everything they ripped off. That's a LOT of work that would have been better spent creating something new,
yea it almost looks like a political message as if someone was protesting against copy right laws or wanted to show the finger to all the other publishers and developers.
Horses for Courses is a British saying, it basically means that everyone is suited to something different. In horse racing some horses are more suited for a firmer type of race course and others for a sandy type for example so "horses for Courses"
@@kiraina25 late answer I know but IIRC, the skinned dude keeps pointing to the horse, which is a mare...a word that sounds vaguely like "mayor." Skinned dude is trying to say he's the mayor by gesturing to the horse, and for some reason Briggs realizes "female horse = mare = mayor" after the horse reference. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A few months ago I had a terrible infection which left me lying around feverish and delirious most of the time. I'd spend my evenings just lying in bed and watching random UA-cam videos on my laptop via the autoplay function, all while continously fading in and out of consciousness. At some point I suddenly came back to my senses after being ripped out of a fever dream and for some unexplainable reason I had the "King of Limbo" song stuck in my head. After I reorientated myself in this world I looked over at my laptop and realized that this video has been playing and somehow must have invaded my dreams. It was such a surreal experience and over the next few days I would repeatedly get this song stuck in my mind. Really makes you appreciate what an absurd fever-dream this game is.
Another stolen asset you may have missed: the troll that picks him up and throws him is from the Lord of the rings battle for middle earth RTS game. It’s actually the same animation as when a troll picks up a tree as a weapon
From what I saw the entire game is one big stolen asset, there is a list of things stolen and aside from storyline everything else was "acquired" from other people.
Briggs intentionally crashing the game by rapping on the glass with that goofy pose and that squashed sound effect is one of the funniest things ever, period.
@@j_stach You know, I’m genuinely sad that with the death of Java, I’ll probably never be able to interact with the Homestar Runner website again. EDIT: So after I wrote that, I got curious, and it turns out the Homestar Runner website is now running on Ruffle in the wake of Java’s death. Huh.
@@MultiCool55 Sorry for the late reply, but Java has also died. Java used to be a very prolific technology on the web. Practically no modern browser supports it and the later IEs and Edge compatibility are jank as fuck. Old switch interfaces are fucked because of this so I have to rig my fucking laptop up to them using the console port. It's sad.
There's this human bittersweetness to the ending that's difficult to qualify. It's a bunch of creepy, poorly animated ghouls singing a positive, friendly song to a man stuck in Hell, enthusiastically written and performed by a clearly unusual, possibly unstable man that spent TWENTY YEARS on a passion project nobody cared about but was, regardless, immediately hit with lawsuits, and it also happens to chronicle the fictional aftermath of a real person's death hundreds of years after it occurred. Yet, to me, it also feels like the expression of a lonely person that wanted companionship. So many fucking layers...
The ending cutscene has always made me feel sad somehow, and eventually I realized that it was because I was sad for what this game could have been if it had lived up to their vision. It might've had that exact same dumb ending song, but we'd be feeling totally different about it if it had come at the end of a great game and we deeply cared about all these characters who were singing it.
I think that ending credits song is, without a hint of irony, absolute art and one of the best sequences in gaming history. It's just got so much *soul* to it in a way I'm really not sure how to even describe. It's got heart.
I honestly want to make an account on Wikipedia just to edit Benjamin Briggs' page and add the details of the game and about him being the current reigning King of Limbo. Obviously I have to screen shot it all before somebody ruins the fun, though
@Arrow Head that's an anime profile pic with a dude who has anime shit. That's weeb shit and I have no idea how that character or the person is a pedophilia except that maybe that profile pic is a little girl.
My favorite part of the game. How could you hate the rampant plagiarism and bargain basement "some British guy we found outside hawking moissanite jewelry" voiceacting with this game's wholesome facial animation?
Briggs is an excellent role model. No matter what insane nonsense jumps out at him, he just keeps pushing forward and rolling with the punches, all with that big grin on his face :)
This comment made me realize that I'd love to see more games where the protagonist is unnaturally chipper for the setting they're in. I'm imagining this grimdark Hellscape full of terrifying monsters, then you have this main character who's genuinely having a blast solving all these puzzles and interacting with the freaky-deaky NPCs there. The juxtaposition would be amazing, LOL
@@mistahchad220 That actually describes playing a chaotic-good character in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous pretty well. It's probably not as wacky as you're looking for though :)
17:30 I apologize if this has already been pointed out, but while the stamen of the Saffron flower is indeed red, when soaked in water, it produces a vibrant yellow color. In fact, it was historically used as a yellow dye.
What a weird mistake to make -maybe not I'd reflexively blame google or whatever sites offered up those images of saffron plants and parts but given how thoroughly soaked in stupid a brain must be at any stage during the production of a video like this
This is the exact opposite of those cutesy games with a dark twist. Everything in this game looks gruesome and scary but most of the NPCs are decent people lmao
Who's crazier? The one who makes this game, or the one who plays it to completion? I just watched a 42 minute video on it. I'm certainly not qualified to answer.
So apparently this game started development in the 90s but was restarted in 2003 and released in 2007/08, making it a contemporary release with titles like Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Mirror's Edge, Super Mario Galaxy, Portal, and Crysis.
Twenty bucks that this game woulda ripped off stuff from Bioshock if Bioshock came out a bit earlier. Also: Super Mario Galaxy is 12 years old? Man do I feel old.
I’m not sure if it’s a product of Nurgle, knowing that it was destined to rot in obscurity, or Slaanesh, because if anyone actually plays this game they will feel intense pleasure and pain.
For as awful as this game is, I can't help but smile at that ending. It's just... Idunno, it's charming. You can't... Hate that. it might be the only part of the game that's got any effort put into it, but it's just... Genuine.
@@parsleythefool I agree completely. To the extent that this cutscene makes me feel genuinely sad because it makes me think about what this game could've been if it had lived up to their vision.
Legend has it Plato and Socrates were having a discussion about what the purest form of good is. Plato said the sun, as it shines its light daily and provides well-being to the world. That's when Socrates pulled out his phone and showed him the thumbnail for this video, before saying, "But Captain Briggs is the light AND the love."
Honestly now I think every game should do ending like this. After the titles, all the characters from the game come together and sing a nice song. It's so wholesome.
Then you would like Black Ops 2. After a super dramatic ending the characters, including dead ones, come together to make jokes and have an Avenged Sevenfold concert... still less weird than anything in this game
There were THREE lawsuits in the making at the start. In addition to the cutscene and its border, the buttons on the main menu are ripped straight from Battle For Middle Earth.
It's even worse. While 'git gud' could be taken as sensible, albeit oversimplified advice you absolutely wouldn't want to apply logic to a shitty adventure game. One grimly thinks back at early Sierras point 'n clicks and the borderline mind abuse they inflicted upon you.
I went digging through some boxes in the basement the other day and found my physical copy of this game. I've never played it and I don't think I will, but it remains one of the funniest joke gifts I've ever gotten from a friend, even disregarding the absurd sums it sells for on eBay these days.
That cheering at 30:06 is also used in Carmageddon (original dos game) when you win a race. This game is more than a hidden objects game, it's also a hidden objects game of copyright materials
@@EJFreelancer Briggs put a bear trap on someone's head to steal his pen and ink, and ripped off a guy's leg, without a hint of remorse; among other things. Honestly, as far as who's more psychopathic, I think it'd be a pretty close race.
@@NoriMori1992 lets be fair, most of the "people" Briggs fucks over are disgusting, decrepit ghoulish monsters (or twitter users), while Halligan's victims are actual humans
That would be close, but Briggs shows some empathy, while Halligan never does once, plus Briggs Halligan just acts the casual savagery of Halligan gives him an almost Hannibal Lecter advantage. Reminder that the climax of the game is him wordlessly stabbing his love interest without voicing the logic behind it at all.
crazy idea that explains why the audio resets when you change room: every room is it's own application. when you leave a room the application for that room is closed and a different application for the new room is opened. if this is done for rooms, or at least the audio for each room, it explains why it resets, after all it's a new application. this also seems like a system that would be really prone to crashing, especially if it's done badly, and since this is a daft way to do it in the first place you wouldn't expect a bad idea to be implemented well.
@@elijahjarman2837 kind of, but I'm thinking it's even dumber. Garbage disposal (thoughing away data buildup) is a difficulty in programming so the invisible war thing feels more like a clever trick like the fallout nv building that is an explosion until it explodes. This game feels more like it made each room a different application in laziness. It's easier to have each room be 1 window while changing background and activatables in the same window would be actual work (and depending on how shit the system it may crash it).
@@vinx.909 oh my god, is that actually possible? the game being hundreds of different applications that all end and run on screen transitions? isn't that HARDER than making the game properly?
@@erickschusterdeoliveira2662 let me give you an example of a game that does something similar: skyrim. ok not like this game does it. but when you run skyrim on pc you first get that small window with access to some settings right? this launcher writes to ini files that the real game you open though the launcher reads of and figures out what it should do. by doing this the game doesn't have to for instance change resolution while running. now i'm guessing limbo of the lost does this to the extreme. one safe file that every single application writes to. this way every room/application doesn't have any knowledge of other rooms, and because it needs to know of less items it'll be easier. if you have no clue on how to make a point and click adventure game well it's a pretty good way to get away with doing it terribly.
Briggs character model looks like its from one of those early 2000s barbie movies. He straight up reminds me of just, a background character to fill up some of the space.
No, he is actually a stolen asset from the Nancy Drew game Stay Tuned for Danger. They changed his hair color and added a beard but he is literally the same
Just for context, this game came out the same year as Bioshock, Portal, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, God of War 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, and Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare.
As ridiculous as this game is, and as much stolen shit there is, the devs still put more effort in this than 90% of steam’s early access survival games.
I just discovered your channel and watched the Druid review before this one - thinking I would have "Droods with attitudes" stuck in my head for an eternity - - Oh boy, was I in for a treat *_TAKE IT AWAY RITA BBY OHHHHHHH_*
So he had a song made for “the mystery of the druids”, which I watched first. I 100% thought he got this some made for his video like he did at the end of “the mystery of the druids” annnnd.. nope lol. This song is canonical and nothing has ever made me happier
Yo, I am waaaaaaaay late on this one, but the cutscene showing "The Mary Celeste sets sail bound for Genoa - Italy" is ripped straight from a Pirates of the Caribbean game made by Akella. So, there you go. They even ripped off stuff from a relatively obscure game. At around 0:55 in this video ua-cam.com/video/i1UujNqm58c/v-deo.html you can see the cutscene. Edit: also, after watching the stream, isn't the sound the skeleton makes right at the beginning the sound that zombies make in Thief The Dark Project?
@@ZemplinTemplar Surprised the dev's didnt stick to bullying-- Erm, borrowing-- Stealing from purely obscure games in an attempt to avoid trouble. Not a good attempt but whatever
I feel like we should be angry for the amount of stolen assets in this game, but there's a certain childish charm and innocence to this game that you feel like you should give the developers a gentle pat on the back and head for at least trying. Edit: I have no idea why so many people liked this random comment that I made or why anyone thinks that I was being serious.
i wish i could say that there's something wrong with you if you're feeling angry on behalf of huge companies that make millions off of shoveling passionless garbage down their consumers' throats, but unfortunately, that seems to be the majority of people
@@katatonikbliss people aren't angry on behalf of these poor poor big companies, they are angry because theft is a shitty, inconsiderate, lazy practice
23:00 once I heard the Oblivion music kick in I lost my shit. Even more when you said "You cannot be serious" 🤣🤣☠️☠️ definitely one of my favorite vids to rewatch.
Fun fact, Gameboomers, who's quote is featured on the box, refused to review the game even after receiving a free copy. Weird you would use them as a quote, assuming the quote is even real. The reason for refusing was the devs antics on their forums, seriously, look into the devs posting history across the internet for a barrel of laughs and deceitful behaviour. What's funnier is how the devs act like they care about the gaming community and other developers, all while stealing their work, these are some real scummy people.
This game reminds me of one of those 200,000 word "magnum opus" novels written by a guy over 20 years that they know is a masterpiece if people will just give it a chance, look past it's flaws... overlook the atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes, it's great! You just don't appreciate art! ...Yeah
@@BigChiken44 Akella made it but Bethesda published it and only that one. Unfortunately it's the hardest one to get for PC now. Steam doesnt have it and I couldn't find it on GOG either.
@@DanDirik I hear that, not really the biggest into piracy, being a network security and system admin student, but I can understand its appeal. I just don't always trust sites to be very reputable, and not package ransomware with the game lol.
I really doubt you will ever read this, Mandy, but I hope you know this is one of the finest examples of vidya preservation, journalism and historiography around. You struck gold on this one, man. Congrats.
0:42 - GameBoomers is a real website - a really old one, but still active - where you can still read the forum threads where people discussed the game after it was first released. That quote, "I was immersed in the experience within the first few minutes", is from a GB reviewer called infernoj13usa, who reviewed a demo of the game in 2007 (before the full game was released), in a post titled "Limbo of The Lost: A First Look". If you can believe it, there was a GB thread ("Is Anybody Playing Limbo of the Lost?") where people (including inferno) were actually singing the game's praises, up until the point where Majestic accidentally turned everyone against them. A user named FABLE, who had helped inferno finish the game, criticized her for giving puzzle hints to other users in the Hints forum (as is standard). Majestic (posting as MSTUDIOS) backed FABLE up in the argument, which soured everyone's attitudes towards them. Then someone exposed that Majestic and FABLE were posting from the same IP address, which was the nail in the coffin, since everyone concluded that FABLE was a sockpuppet created by Majestic (though Majestic maintained he was one of their playtesters and his statements should not reflect on them). But even then, people were more so upset about Majestic than about the game itself; they still seemed to think the game was really good. It's baffling. There were some other threads about the game where people voiced a few criticisms, but mostly they seemed to agree that it was otherwise decent. I don't get it. If it had been the 90s, I might be able to understand, but this was in 2008.
Do you know what the 50 cent army is? Take into consideration the effective power such an organization has, because you have so many bias people being paid to alter the perception of the general public. (Generally speaking, people that either have terrible reputation and or have a ton of money, also will use bots.) In other words, the peer pressure effect exists and works in the favor of those who wish to use it. So, spelling it about a bit more, Majestic wanted to have his point of view validated. Thus he created fake accounts, to pass as real people, to try and have it seem like a crowd of people support his opinion, and also, somewhat legitimize his views.
Oh my god that ending is the best thing I've ever seen. The whole thing seems worth it just for that. Mandalore you are definitely the King of Limbo. Hail to the King.
37:24 Here's another stolen asset that I bet a lot of people missed. This swinging axe/pendulum is actually from a Nightwish album "Dark Passion Play" (google the album cover lol).
I noticed this too. Interestingly enough, the album was released on 26 September 2007 and Limbo of the Lost only 2 days later according to Wikipedia. Two days is not enough to add something to a game for a physical release I think. It's of course possible the cover was published before release though. It's also conceivable that both the cover and the game ripped off a common source. I couldn't find any reference to the artist of the cover or the pendulum it depicts, so it's hard to confirm with absolute certainty.
@@cleverlyblonde Couldn't find any book cover looking exactly like this one. What's very weird is that both pendulums have exactly the same details on the blade.
@@DudeBronkster I googled "gothic pendulum blade" and there's a couple of images that have the same design. One is from Shutterstock that's "Pit Pendulum Animation on Green Screen" but uploaded in 2011. The other is from Dreamstime website called "Gothic Pendulum Stock Illustrations" from an unknown date.
I remember back when this game came out. The memes it spawned with its asset theft were legend. I had completely forgotten about it and hadn't thought of it in years. Thanks for reminding me with a great video on this.
*Briggs: [knocks on screen]* "Stuck? Try [Wintermute Engine Runtime has stopped working]." Even with how much this game nicks, I kinda want to see Briggs end up as a character in another game. Even if he's just a weird Easter egg hidden behind several secret walls. *Briggs:* "You know what? Every secret tells a story... :D" _[does Carlton dance while Lowry levitates]_
Even better, I want someone to wholesale rip him and insert him into a game without actually adjusting anything about his assets from this game. Bonus points if it's a 3D game, so he's this super out of place 2.5D figure running around on the foreground. It's the only way to make it truly satisfying.
I also think that the man who's playing Briggs has a very soothing voice. I'd totally pay to find that man and have him reprise the role (with better audio equipment)
Its insane how creative some of em are. Ive drawn monsters as a hobby for years and ive never managed to make anything even nearly as interesting as some of the designs in this game.
@@SerLaama rewatch the video and pay more attention to it. If you arent interested in that you might not notice. (Not talking about every character, only some exceptional ones)
36:37 Dude, I commend you on using Marv's electrocuted screams as a running gag WHENEVER electricity is involved. Never fails to get a chuckle out of me.
I’m extremely late but I agree??? Also down to some of the game itself (not stolen assets lmao). I’m probably using this word wrong but it’s kinda campy?? I really love the bad graphics of the game In addition to some character designs, GOD I REALLY WANT A HORROR/HISTORICAL DRAMA GAME THAT HAS THE SAME VIBE AS LIMBO OF THE LOST
Try Mandalore’s reviews of The Mystery of the Druids, The Forest, and Pathologic 1 and 2. If you like science and science fiction try Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur (SFIA) for and endless source of content to listen to when insomnia hits.
@@ColdHawk yeah mystery of the druids vid does it even more for me than this. Put myself to sleep with that vid countless times. And that is no knock on Mandy's content. But some of his vids are like a good hot toddy or glass of warm milk. Comfort. Glad I'm not the only one to use them this way
There is a documentary made on developers of this project by Mr. Tophat, called "Limbo of the Lost: A Tale of Lies, Betrayal & Plagiarism". I highly recommend it as a supplimentary to this video.
Making your creation a tapestry of IP theft is a genius way of manufacturing scarcity of your physical product. No one will ever have all the rights to reprint or sell the game. The initial run of this game is like a real life NFT
The fact that briggs is real makes me think this game is a documentary from hell about a true story and the only resources they had to make this game were other media and a bunch of tape
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Add stuff you find to the wiki - lotl.wikia.com/wiki/Limbo_of_the_Lost_Wiki
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Consider this format more of an anomaly for this game and I'll be back to the regular stuff next time.
Don't worry, we can wait if your videos continue to be so great.
Also, please check out Pathologic at some point, even if it takes two years (it's old, it's russian, it's often described as weird and obscure, it's just made for you)
Don't worry about schedules, just do what you can when you feel like it. And when it comes to games like this, I'd be excited no matter how long it'd take.
Also, I keep hearing this particular voice a lot, it's found at about 10:52, and I heard the same thing from Ultimate Muscle Roller Legend, where is that audio from?
>Ace Combat series
God bless you Mandy, gas the Belkan scum already.
20yrs of development makes sense, they had to wait for the other devs
to finish the stolen assets so this masterpiece could finish
it's the "Boyhood" of videogames.
@@TheYutubesteve You watch RLM?
And wait for the statute of limitations to run out.
this game was collecting assets like they were infinity stones
Like atlas from bioshock these developers were under the "would you kindly spell"
One voice actor, playing 5 characters, trying to harmonise with himself in the song at the end of the game is just - I never thought something so horrible yet funny could have ever existed on the retail market.
Pulled it off pretty well all things considered.
His sense of rhythm is actually pretty good. You'd be surprised how bad people are with their timing
That's so Monty Python.
Adoo wop, adooby do wop
@@peterroberts7832
You forgot the -pffffhhhhttt
there's something so fascinating about how little tension this game has. like, even the scariest of monsters have a habit of greeting you politely, and even in dungeons and sewers most of the npcs seem more interested in peacefully going about their lives than fucking with you in any capacity. briggs is barely stressed at all during the entire narrative. it's crazy funny and weirdly welcoming.
For a bunch of people in limbo they seem pretty content already ykno
The NPCs all have that "it is what it is" mindset
It makes some amount of sense, given that this is an afterlife of some kind (I think???)
You know those games like Eversion that pretend to be cute and wholesome but then turn really dark part of the way through? This game is like the opposite of that. I'd actually love to see an indie horror game do this sort of thing, but without being plagiarized garbage.
The biggest scare I ever had in Skyrim was when a bandit snuck up on me and asked if he could take the armour I'd just tossed out of my inventory.
The bit where Briggs knocks on the screen, which leads to the game immediately crashing, is brilliant. It's just perfection.
Chef’s kiss tbh
it has the same energy as that one Skyrim clip where the guy goes "you shouldn't be here" and then the game crashes
@@cephaleaorion4888 Goddamnit, Todd.
@@MasterZebulin dude this game is what Todd Howard’s fever dreams are like.
They’ll think their TVs are BROKEN!
32 minutes in: "But here's where it gets strange"
Yeah, that fucking eliminated me
Something you never wanna hear in a video like this...
Dude shhhhhhh! ...
Grunger...
This game looks like when you have a dream about a game that doesn't exist based on games that you played.
What dream would it be if they played other games instead of morrowind ?!
Spot on!
I legit have nightmares about game called KILLER 7. I saw something about it, somethere i don't know, and then i start to have weird dreams. On several years ago i accidently stumble upon it, while surfing randomly, got catch on game No More Heros, search for more games of same company aaand... i found it, i watch lets play on that game (KILLER 7) HORRIBLY trippy game for unsuspected user, very DREAM LIKE
I swear I’ve dreamed of this game
@@lukahutinski9075 ooooooopp
I want an interview with the creator. Not to shame or humiliate him for the game, just purely out of morbid curiosity into what he was thinking through the whole development.
He probably changed identity and moved to Ukraine to avoid all those lawsuits
Daniel Sousa thumbs up for your spelling of Ukraine.
@@pangoprime8674 Oh fuck. Thanks for the correction.
I feel the same way about the game "armed and delirious". If I could ever interview the creator I could probably write an amazing psychology article
Daniel Sousa dude i wasnt being an ass, it made me laugh! Thats a good thing. Peace man.
The game stole its assets. The ending stole my heart.
Totally dude, is just peak :D
It's almost perfect that the protagonist was a real guy. They plagiarized everything else, why not an actual person's life?
It also means that since he's from the 12th Century... his likeness is public domain, you can literally put Briggs in ANYTHING and it's legal
@@1Hol1Tiger
18th-19th century but your point still stands.
@@1Hol1Tiger It's a symbolic touch.
@@AsmageddonPrince I'm just saying Spooner Briggs should show up in more things
@@1Hol1Tiger
The full circle: we steal Briggs from this game.
The smiling of the main protagonist are by far the best part of the game. This little bit of happiness you see in his eyes are a reason to give it game of the year.
That's where the trouble began.
That smile.
That damned smile.
Especially when he looks terrified and then "No, no, don't be frightened" and he immediately cracks a smile and is no longer frightened.
To be honest I'm not even mad, this amount of stealing took planning and dedication much beyond what I could ever muster.
Seriously, stealing that Indiana Jones whistle from Serious Sam instead of whistling it themselves is just on another level.
At least they had good taste in games they stole from!
Each time I hear someone mention Serious Sam, my heart orgasms a bit.
Yup, they would have used the editing tools in every one of those game to steal the assets from everything they ripped off. That's a LOT of work that would have been better spent creating something new,
@@maschaorsomething Serious Sam. Oh yeah got you now.
yea it almost looks like a political message as if someone was protesting against copy right laws or wanted to show the finger to all the other publishers and developers.
Horses for Courses is a British saying, it basically means that everyone is suited to something different.
In horse racing some horses are more suited for a firmer type of race course and others for a sandy type for example so "horses for Courses"
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This is the sauce
... okay but how the fuck does that tell Briggs that the skinned captive is the Mayor or who the Soul Taker is?!
@@kiraina25 I dunno lol
@@kiraina25 late answer I know but IIRC, the skinned dude keeps pointing to the horse, which is a mare...a word that sounds vaguely like "mayor." Skinned dude is trying to say he's the mayor by gesturing to the horse, and for some reason Briggs realizes "female horse = mare = mayor" after the horse reference. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A few months ago I had a terrible infection which left me lying around feverish and delirious most of the time. I'd spend my evenings just lying in bed and watching random UA-cam videos on my laptop via the autoplay function, all while continously fading in and out of consciousness. At some point I suddenly came back to my senses after being ripped out of a fever dream and for some unexplainable reason I had the "King of Limbo" song stuck in my head. After I reorientated myself in this world I looked over at my laptop and realized that this video has been playing and somehow must have invaded my dreams.
It was such a surreal experience and over the next few days I would repeatedly get this song stuck in my mind. Really makes you appreciate what an absurd fever-dream this game is.
McKampfschnitzel97 hope you’re doing well now, internet stranger :)
@@eccodreams Yeah, I'm doing fine. Thank you very much :) The song still pops into my head at random times though.
@@McKampfschnitzel97 It's a good song.
What more can a poor boy do?
Cheers to your health my friend
Limbo of the Lost was the most ambitious Elder Scrolls 4 Oblivion overhaul I'd ever seen.
And they say Oblivion's modding community was dying, explain this atheist
I nearly shit my pants in laughter after seeing the skingrad palace as a background screen shot
The best
Limbo of the Lost vs Fallout: The frontier
Heh
Another stolen asset you may have missed: the troll that picks him up and throws him is from the Lord of the rings battle for middle earth RTS game. It’s actually the same animation as when a troll picks up a tree as a weapon
the credits/start/load/quit is also stolen from battle for middle earth
while its based on the lotr troll it isn't a perfect copy it looks like an open source remake, and the tree pickup anim is very different iirc
From what I saw the entire game is one big stolen asset, there is a list of things stolen and aside from storyline everything else was "acquired" from other people.
I’m so sorry to break this to you but it turns out the troll is actually from monster porn
@tommykarrick9130 What?
Briggs intentionally crashing the game by rapping on the glass with that goofy pose and that squashed sound effect is one of the funniest things ever, period.
@@j_stach You know, I’m genuinely sad that with the death of Java, I’ll probably never be able to interact with the Homestar Runner website again.
EDIT: So after I wrote that, I got curious, and it turns out the Homestar Runner website is now running on Ruffle in the wake of Java’s death. Huh.
@@zyriantel9601 Sorry for the late reply, but Flash was what died, not java.
@@MultiCool55 Sorry for the late reply, but Java has also died. Java used to be a very prolific technology on the web. Practically no modern browser supports it and the later IEs and Edge compatibility are jank as fuck.
Old switch interfaces are fucked because of this so I have to rig my fucking laptop up to them using the console port. It's sad.
In my view Mandalore should be crowned the King of Limbo.
Joseph Anderson who else?
Thought that was Vinny's title... or perhaps he's the jester.
not sure if insult or else...
Well he's had his ups and he's had his downs...
this comment was the least you could do after threatening his life
In case people are wondering, the voice actor for Briggs, Lawrence Francis, died about 10 months ago. R.I.P.
Source?
@@eggboy4953 Dunno about the death part, but Wikipedia backs him up that Briggs was in fact played by Lawrence Francis.
F
Damn. Well, guess he's moved on to become the king of Limbo.
Doc K why is there a fake stain mark on that website
There's this human bittersweetness to the ending that's difficult to qualify. It's a bunch of creepy, poorly animated ghouls singing a positive, friendly song to a man stuck in Hell, enthusiastically written and performed by a clearly unusual, possibly unstable man that spent TWENTY YEARS on a passion project nobody cared about but was, regardless, immediately hit with lawsuits, and it also happens to chronicle the fictional aftermath of a real person's death hundreds of years after it occurred. Yet, to me, it also feels like the expression of a lonely person that wanted companionship. So many fucking layers...
Well, he had his ups and he had his downs.
So far, best damn analyse on the subject
Again, this is a very spot on comment, just perfect. Hits me here ❤️
@Pablo Larreategui i reject this to be the truth ! gimme some proof man
The ending cutscene has always made me feel sad somehow, and eventually I realized that it was because I was sad for what this game could have been if it had lived up to their vision. It might've had that exact same dumb ending song, but we'd be feeling totally different about it if it had come at the end of a great game and we deeply cared about all these characters who were singing it.
I think that ending credits song is, without a hint of irony, absolute art and one of the best sequences in gaming history.
It's just got so much *soul* to it in a way I'm really not sure how to even describe. It's got heart.
They stole everything... including my heart.
"I'm not sure how to describe it".... then proceeds to describe it
Somebody get Jacob Geller to make a video on it
I honestly want to make an account on Wikipedia just to edit Benjamin Briggs' page and add the details of the game and about him being the current reigning King of Limbo. Obviously I have to screen shot it all before somebody ruins the fun, though
let the man cook
the dude knocks on the 4th wall and crashes the game. 2meta4me
@Arrow Head or not a weeb
@Arrow Head that's an anime profile pic with a dude who has anime shit. That's weeb shit and I have no idea how that character or the person is a pedophilia except that maybe that profile pic is a little girl.
He experienced Zero-Sum
@Arrow Head Oh the irony
@@nwahnerevar9398 Three blessings, serrah
This steals from so many sources that it might be considered a work of art
I actually think its quite remarkable
Never Half-ass anything, even half-assing itself. you'll end up impressing someone someday.
- Quentin Tarantino
"In 15,000 years we have invented nothing!"
Which it would then steal
Briggs smile is literally :]
Ty Penick It is and I love it. Is it an emote yet?
My favorite part of the game. How could you hate the rampant plagiarism and bargain basement "some British guy we found outside hawking moissanite jewelry" voiceacting with this game's wholesome facial animation?
Every gift
Tells a story : ]
c:
29:52 this moment.
Briggs is an excellent role model. No matter what insane nonsense jumps out at him, he just keeps pushing forward and rolling with the punches, all with that big grin on his face :)
the anti detective halligan
I read the :) as though it did the grin animation
This comment made me realize that I'd love to see more games where the protagonist is unnaturally chipper for the setting they're in. I'm imagining this grimdark Hellscape full of terrifying monsters, then you have this main character who's genuinely having a blast solving all these puzzles and interacting with the freaky-deaky NPCs there. The juxtaposition would be amazing, LOL
@@mistahchad220 That actually describes playing a chaotic-good character in Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous pretty well. It's probably not as wacky as you're looking for though :)
17:30 I apologize if this has already been pointed out, but while the stamen of the Saffron flower is indeed red, when soaked in water, it produces a vibrant yellow color. In fact, it was historically used as a yellow dye.
What a weird mistake to make -maybe not
I'd reflexively blame google or whatever sites offered up those images of saffron plants and parts
but given how thoroughly soaked in stupid a brain must be at any stage during the production of a video like this
Also there is something like tequilla with worm, so probably that's the connection with the water puzzle
@@damianabregba7476 yeah everybody gets that it's a joke about Mexican people dude
@@damianabregba7476 no shit
I don't get it c: @@folx2733
This game simultaneously gave me cancer and then cured it... Leaving me in limbo.
Vmew
Th'Kiiiiing alim-bow
You became deadpool? 😂😂😂
Does that make you da king'a Limbo?
Sheogorath made this game, that's why there's alot of oblivion locations.
....I.....I.... fuck that makes to much sense, though I expected a lot more cheese. Or random manic murder.
holy shit, that actually makes since!
@@Never_heart See, but that's what you were expecting! Sheogorath would want the unexpecting so it's more interesting and fun! Haha
There still was some random manic murder. Can't go without it.
A lot is two words
This is the exact opposite of those cutesy games with a dark twist. Everything in this game looks gruesome and scary but most of the NPCs are decent people lmao
Who's crazier? The one who makes this game, or the one who plays it to completion?
I just watched a 42 minute video on it. I'm certainly not qualified to answer.
Definately the developer. There is no such thing as a sane developer.
Us the viewers. The others had money to gain!
Excellent point. And opening it up to reply to this comment I'm tempted to re-watch it. I think that proves your point.
Good god.. Me too :(
or are you ?
My favorite bad game! Great video, I learned a lot of new stuff, but also got some extremely unpleasant Limbo flashbacks. Worth it.
TOP ANIME CROSSOVERS
vinesauce You should totally stream this again
Rare that you see Vinny around the UA-cams.
Your stream of this game is what introduced me to Limbo of the Lost, and it's still one of my favorite Vinesauce playthroughs of all time!
please, god, play this dope shit again
In the first moment of the REAL ending I thought that everyone individually would say "Congratulations!"
Is that an Evangelion reference
Should’ve added a hospital room with a comatose ghoul
Imagine if Bethesda had sent them a letter saying "Your stolen goods are now forfeit."
So apparently this game started development in the 90s but was restarted in 2003 and released in 2007/08, making it a contemporary release with titles like Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Metal Gear Solid 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Mirror's Edge, Super Mario Galaxy, Portal, and Crysis.
Twenty bucks that this game woulda ripped off stuff from Bioshock if Bioshock came out a bit earlier.
Also: Super Mario Galaxy is 12 years old? Man do I feel old.
Easily the best game of that bunch
It's better than all those games
I feel like if it could, the game would of stolen stuff from the N64 Zelda games
The creators of this game have a very intimate relationship with the Dark Gods of Chaos, and spent a considerable amount of time in the Warp.
I’m not sure if it’s a product of Nurgle, knowing that it was destined to rot in obscurity, or Slaanesh, because if anyone actually plays this game they will feel intense pleasure and pain.
Or Tzeentch, using this game as part of his insane schemes.
You speak of lord Tzeentch!
I think this is the work of Malal, chaos at war with chaos itself, sheer and utter fucking madness
@@brennanchaudhry8925 I agree with your take
For as awful as this game is, I can't help but smile at that ending. It's just... Idunno, it's charming. You can't... Hate that. it might be the only part of the game that's got any effort put into it, but it's just... Genuine.
You can tell the VA for the main character actually got into singing that song a bit. It's wild.
Not a crunch in sight, just game devs and VAs living in the moment
I get it. In another world this could have been a classic. There’s a lot of charm.
@@parsleythefool Yeah but in this world we have Zork: Grand Inquisitor considered a classic, and reality makes sense again.
@@parsleythefool I agree completely. To the extent that this cutscene makes me feel genuinely sad because it makes me think about what this game could've been if it had lived up to their vision.
Legend has it Plato and Socrates were having a discussion about what the purest form of good is. Plato said the sun, as it shines its light daily and provides well-being to the world. That's when Socrates pulled out his phone and showed him the thumbnail for this video, before saying, "But Captain Briggs is the light AND the love."
AND he's the King of Limbooo~
I mean, he did put a bear trap on a guy's fricking head and eyes just so he could steal his pen, though.
@@hazukichanx408 tough love.
@@hazukichanx408 Sometimes love hurts
And Aristotle said “Every Gift. Tells a story. :)”
The soul taker’s box that Briggs puts a match in is taken from an Nvidia tech demo from around the same time this game came out. Amazing
I was wondering who else noticed that
Honestly now I think every game should do ending like this. After the titles, all the characters from the game come together and sing a nice song. It's so wholesome.
Then you would like Black Ops 2. After a super dramatic ending the characters, including dead ones, come together to make jokes and have an Avenged Sevenfold concert... still less weird than anything in this game
This is how Half Life 3 should end.
@@mysoncrumphaseveryinjury3853 but to end, one must... begin
This is actually how AI: The Somnium ends, man. Only other game I know of that does it.
During the credits of saints row 4 the characters sing "just a friend" by biz markie
The first time I watched this review, I really underestimated how perfect the protagonists "I'm smiling to keep from screaming" face is.
"this frankenstein of a game isn't even stitched up right"
okay, I like that line. a lot
I can't believe so many games stole things from Limbo of the Lost!
There were THREE lawsuits in the making at the start. In addition to the cutscene and its border, the buttons on the main menu are ripped straight from Battle For Middle Earth.
Those are rookie numbers friend
there were more like
30000 lawsuits in the making at the start.
The way Briggs smiles reminds me of Gmod animations. Especially at 29:53.
Me: "Wait, this doesn't look TOO bad so far..."
Game: *"F A G G O T' S T H E N A M E!.. "*
*COOKING'S MY GAME*
That makes it good
@@jobdylan5782 nice rump though
there's a gay dating app I use this as my bio on and it works wonders
you could never make a game like this in biden's woke america
"Stuck? Try logic" is such a shithead thing for an adventure game to tell you. Like if the Dark Souls game over message was literally "Git Gud"
I think it's a pun. Back then the dev company was called Tri-Logik Studios.
@@NoriMori1992 still kind of a dick move, like they're acknowledging how confusing and inscrutable the game they made was.
It's even worse. While 'git gud' could be taken as sensible, albeit oversimplified advice you absolutely wouldn't want to apply logic to a shitty adventure game. One grimly thinks back at early Sierras point 'n clicks and the borderline mind abuse they inflicted upon you.
Especially when half of adventure game puzzles are totally illogical.
@@matthewhartshorn5204 That's what makes it even funnier.
That ending song is actually great lol.
I must agree~
Touché
I cried tears of joy
and the dev is performing it all by himself too
Well it has its up and it has its down
That Ending, eat your heart out Kojima.
I went digging through some boxes in the basement the other day and found my physical copy of this game. I've never played it and I don't think I will, but it remains one of the funniest joke gifts I've ever gotten from a friend, even disregarding the absurd sums it sells for on eBay these days.
That cheering at 30:06 is also used in Carmageddon (original dos game) when you win a race. This game is more than a hidden objects game, it's also a hidden objects game of copyright materials
Fuck's sake, they even stole a cheering sound bite. Couldn't even create that themselves.
I don't know, sounds like stock sound to me
@@NoriMori1992 At this point it feels like an art statement lol.
Now I want a competition to see who can find the most stolen shit
Briggs vs Detective Halligan, who do you think would win in a puzzle adventure to the death?
Oh, Halligan, easy. Briggs has a conscience. Halligan is not restrained by such petty mortal concerns as morality and decency.
@@EJFreelancer Briggs put a bear trap on someone's head to steal his pen and ink, and ripped off a guy's leg, without a hint of remorse; among other things. Honestly, as far as who's more psychopathic, I think it'd be a pretty close race.
@@NoriMori1992 lets be fair, most of the "people" Briggs fucks over are disgusting, decrepit ghoulish monsters (or twitter users), while Halligan's victims are actual humans
That would be close, but Briggs shows some empathy, while Halligan never does once, plus Briggs Halligan just acts the casual savagery of Halligan gives him an almost Hannibal Lecter advantage. Reminder that the climax of the game is him wordlessly stabbing his love interest without voicing the logic behind it at all.
Halligan. In this game, Stark(you) do all the thinking while Briggs does all the talking.
After 20 years in the making the "devs" completely lost their minds and made this. Also that metal gear bit, well meme'd.
crazy idea that explains why the audio resets when you change room: every room is it's own application. when you leave a room the application for that room is closed and a different application for the new room is opened. if this is done for rooms, or at least the audio for each room, it explains why it resets, after all it's a new application. this also seems like a system that would be really prone to crashing, especially if it's done badly, and since this is a daft way to do it in the first place you wouldn't expect a bad idea to be implemented well.
Kinda what I was thinking. Kind of like how in Deus Ex: Invisible War the game crashes to dump old data and load new maps?
@@elijahjarman2837 kind of, but I'm thinking it's even dumber. Garbage disposal (thoughing away data buildup) is a difficulty in programming so the invisible war thing feels more like a clever trick like the fallout nv building that is an explosion until it explodes. This game feels more like it made each room a different application in laziness. It's easier to have each room be 1 window while changing background and activatables in the same window would be actual work (and depending on how shit the system it may crash it).
@@vinx.909 oh my god, is that actually possible? the game being hundreds of different applications that all end and run on screen transitions? isn't that HARDER than making the game properly?
@@erickschusterdeoliveira2662
let me give you an example of a game that does something similar: skyrim. ok not like this game does it. but when you run skyrim on pc you first get that small window with access to some settings right? this launcher writes to ini files that the real game you open though the launcher reads of and figures out what it should do. by doing this the game doesn't have to for instance change resolution while running.
now i'm guessing limbo of the lost does this to the extreme. one safe file that every single application writes to. this way every room/application doesn't have any knowledge of other rooms, and because it needs to know of less items it'll be easier. if you have no clue on how to make a point and click adventure game well it's a pretty good way to get away with doing it terribly.
X-Com UFO Defence and Terror of the Deep did the same thing. The Geoscape and Battlescape were separate executables.
Briggs character model looks like its from one of those early 2000s barbie movies. He straight up reminds me of just, a background character to fill up some of the space.
Oh my God. You're right.
He's not like it, because he *is*. From the princess and the pauper iirc
@@WingMaster562 What?! So that is why I thought I saw this guy before.
@@WingMaster562 Excuse me?!
No, he is actually a stolen asset from the Nancy Drew game Stay Tuned for Danger. They changed his hair color and added a beard but he is literally the same
*finishes the ending*
This... this can't be real.
Oh It Is. And It's Beautiful!
"You can beg all you want for it to be fake but that could never change the fact that they are undeniably real"-Schivanthrizha Lorauxulence
What more could a poor boy do
That song makes the whole game worth it fuck it this game is a 10/10
THE KING A LIMBOOOOooooOooo
Just for context, this game came out the same year as Bioshock, Portal, Super Mario Galaxy, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Command and Conquer 3, God of War 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, and Call of Duty 4, Modern Warfare.
Such a good year for gaming
They didnt stand a chance
ye, but unlike those games, limbo was in development for 20 years xD
get out of here, stalker
@@gambrinus330116 Guys it took 12 years to make! It deserves an oscar!
As ridiculous as this game is, and as much stolen shit there is, the devs still put more effort in this than 90% of steam’s early access survival games.
It takes effort to steal this much stuff 😂
Well that’s not much of an achievement, the bar is set so low on those that just having a functioning demo already clears the hurdle
I just discovered your channel and watched the Druid review before this one - thinking I would have "Droods with attitudes" stuck in my head for an eternity - - Oh boy, was I in for a treat
*_TAKE IT AWAY RITA BBY OHHHHHHH_*
Exact way I found this channel too
*_DAT'S REALLY GROOVY_*
@@AriasAriusMe too.
That ending is honestly god tier.
reddit
@@fuzzy8889 no u
@@Scatmanseth im sorry
So he had a song made for “the mystery of the druids”, which I watched first. I 100% thought he got this some made for his video like he did at the end of “the mystery of the druids” annnnd.. nope lol. This song is canonical and nothing has ever made me happier
Shit tier
The song at the end has physically unmade me.
Restructured me to base elements.
It teleported me to Slough.
Wait to see Mandalore sing it
ua-cam.com/video/aLEDCCtYkJI/v-deo.html
Skeletonized body
same
The whole entire budget went to the banger at the end. Long live the King of Limbo!
The skeleton plugging it's ears is genuinely good morbid humor.
This whole thing has a very Monty Python/Labyrinth feel to it.
Internet Hydra it’s like those things, but if the creators just didn’t give a shit.
@@oneinathousand2156
I'm pretty sure with Labyrinth the writers at least didn't give a shit.
Imo it's more of a shitty Monkey Island than a shitty anything else, as easy a comparison as that is to make
Yo, I am waaaaaaaay late on this one, but the cutscene showing "The Mary Celeste sets sail bound for Genoa - Italy" is ripped straight from a Pirates of the Caribbean game made by Akella. So, there you go. They even ripped off stuff from a relatively obscure game. At around 0:55 in this video ua-cam.com/video/i1UujNqm58c/v-deo.html you can see the cutscene.
Edit: also, after watching the stream, isn't the sound the skeleton makes right at the beginning the sound that zombies make in Thief The Dark Project?
Enclave was a rather obscure game as well, but they grabbed plenty of screenshots from it for the backgrounds.
I recognized PoC part. Great game.
@@ZemplinTemplar Surprised the dev's didnt stick to bullying-- Erm, borrowing-- Stealing from purely obscure games in an attempt to avoid trouble.
Not a good attempt but whatever
Thanks for reminding me about it still have the PC copy on my shelf
I feel like we should be angry for the amount of stolen assets in this game, but there's a certain childish charm and innocence to this game that you feel like you should give the developers a gentle pat on the back and head for at least trying.
Edit: I have no idea why so many people liked this random comment that I made or why anyone thinks that I was being serious.
don't see why we should be upset, it isn't our work other people are profiting off
@@jeremyalexander135 people get stolen from all the time, I don't need to be the world's policeman
i wish i could say that there's something wrong with you if you're feeling angry on behalf of huge companies that make millions off of shoveling passionless garbage down their consumers' throats, but unfortunately, that seems to be the majority of people
@@katatonikbliss to be fair this game woulda been fine if they didnt do that.... dude was just lazy asf
@@katatonikbliss people aren't angry on behalf of these poor poor big companies, they are angry because theft is a shitty, inconsiderate, lazy practice
23:00 once I heard the Oblivion music kick in I lost my shit. Even more when you said "You cannot be serious" 🤣🤣☠️☠️ definitely one of my favorite vids to rewatch.
i genuinely like the song from the ending. only thing it seems was actually made for the game
That and those "wonderful" signs. Lol!
The "Fluffy" font is from the Buffy the Vampire Slayer logo 🤔
I just can't get over the faces, it's like it's always one step away from being goofy Gmod faces
The main character looks like a Gordon Freeman knockoff who decided to become a pirate of the 17th century...
@@memorizedvisions thats what i thought when this video came out tbh
In my opinion that guy should be the king of Limbo.
no one step ahead
Hey you
Fun fact, Gameboomers, who's quote is featured on the box, refused to review the game even after receiving a free copy. Weird you would use them as a quote, assuming the quote is even real. The reason for refusing was the devs antics on their forums, seriously, look into the devs posting history across the internet for a barrel of laughs and deceitful behaviour. What's funnier is how the devs act like they care about the gaming community and other developers, all while stealing their work, these are some real scummy people.
I hope they go to jail and get beat to death
Where are they from? China? Israel?
where can we find more about the devs' antics?
@@paddypibblet846 worse, london
@@vipEmpire_ The beady eyed Anglo strikes again.
*Humanity's collective IQ is too low to appreciate this masterpiece*
This game is evidence of why the imperium of man must destroy chaos
This game reminds me of one of those 200,000 word "magnum opus" novels written by a guy over 20 years that they know is a masterpiece if people will just give it a chance, look past it's flaws... overlook the atrocious grammar and spelling mistakes, it's great! You just don't appreciate art!
...Yeah
But what about the person that made this video game?
I think the game brought us to that point itself
DarkonXBL Thanks, Roberta Williams.
The portraits make me feel visceral discomfort. They're the deepest point in the uncanny valley. I'm truly impressed
I watch UA-cam videos to sleep, being half conscious to that ending song was a surreal and jarring experience.
The Limbo devs didn't steal assets, it was Big Gaming stealing their assets because they were afraid that Limbo was a masterpiece
The intro is stolen from "Pirate of the Caribbean" on PC (sea dogs 2 by Bethesda).
14:58 they got the telescope from there too
It's by Akella, russian gamedev company
@@BigChiken44 Akella made it but Bethesda published it and only that one. Unfortunately it's the hardest one to get for PC now. Steam doesnt have it and I couldn't find it on GOG either.
@@Ironfist528 Sad, but there are always other ways to... acquire it. If you ever do, I would really recommend the New Horizons mod.
@@DanDirik I hear that, not really the biggest into piracy, being a network security and system admin student, but I can understand its appeal. I just don't always trust sites to be very reputable, and not package ransomware with the game lol.
I really doubt you will ever read this, Mandy, but I hope you know this is one of the finest examples of vidya preservation, journalism and historiography around. You struck gold on this one, man. Congrats.
Agreed!
both this game and this video will stay as a monument of art and history
Mandalore you need to acknowledge this man
0:42 - GameBoomers is a real website - a really old one, but still active - where you can still read the forum threads where people discussed the game after it was first released. That quote, "I was immersed in the experience within the first few minutes", is from a GB reviewer called infernoj13usa, who reviewed a demo of the game in 2007 (before the full game was released), in a post titled "Limbo of The Lost: A First Look".
If you can believe it, there was a GB thread ("Is Anybody Playing Limbo of the Lost?") where people (including inferno) were actually singing the game's praises, up until the point where Majestic accidentally turned everyone against them. A user named FABLE, who had helped inferno finish the game, criticized her for giving puzzle hints to other users in the Hints forum (as is standard). Majestic (posting as MSTUDIOS) backed FABLE up in the argument, which soured everyone's attitudes towards them.
Then someone exposed that Majestic and FABLE were posting from the same IP address, which was the nail in the coffin, since everyone concluded that FABLE was a sockpuppet created by Majestic (though Majestic maintained he was one of their playtesters and his statements should not reflect on them).
But even then, people were more so upset about Majestic than about the game itself; they still seemed to think the game was really good. It's baffling. There were some other threads about the game where people voiced a few criticisms, but mostly they seemed to agree that it was otherwise decent. I don't get it. If it had been the 90s, I might be able to understand, but this was in 2008.
nerd drama? take that nerd stuff out of here we are just straight men watching another straight man review a game. this isn't nerd.
It seems to me that point and click adventure gamers had low set of standards...
@@budakbaongsiah I mean, point and click was practically dead in 2008, so I could see why avid fans of the genre praised anything they could find.
Fanbois even existed in 2008.
Do you know what the 50 cent army is?
Take into consideration the effective power such an organization has, because you have so many bias people being paid to alter the perception of the general public. (Generally speaking, people that either have terrible reputation and or have a ton of money, also will use bots.) In other words, the peer pressure effect exists and works in the favor of those who wish to use it.
So, spelling it about a bit more, Majestic wanted to have his point of view validated. Thus he created fake accounts, to pass as real people, to try and have it seem like a crowd of people support his opinion, and also, somewhat legitimize his views.
Oh my god that ending is the best thing I've ever seen. The whole thing seems worth it just for that.
Mandalore you are definitely the King of Limbo. Hail to the King.
At 29:32 Briggs actually winks at the player during the cutscene. Holy shit, I did not see that coming.
Eye* did not see
37:24 Here's another stolen asset that I bet a lot of people missed. This swinging axe/pendulum is actually from a Nightwish album "Dark Passion Play" (google the album cover lol).
I noticed this too. Interestingly enough, the album was released on 26 September 2007 and Limbo of the Lost only 2 days later according to Wikipedia.
Two days is not enough to add something to a game for a physical release I think. It's of course possible the cover was published before release though.
It's also conceivable that both the cover and the game ripped off a common source. I couldn't find any reference to the artist of the cover or the pendulum it depicts, so it's hard to confirm with absolute certainty.
@@DudeBronkster I haven't looked but I think the pendulum refers to a similar work by Edgar Alan Poe - The pit and the pendulum?
@@cleverlyblonde Couldn't find any book cover looking exactly like this one. What's very weird is that both pendulums have exactly the same details on the blade.
@@genroa3881 Wow, I had not noticed that!
@@DudeBronkster I googled "gothic pendulum blade" and there's a couple of images that have the same design. One is from Shutterstock that's "Pit Pendulum Animation on Green Screen" but uploaded in 2011. The other is from Dreamstime website called "Gothic Pendulum Stock Illustrations" from an unknown date.
I remember back when this game came out. The memes it spawned with its asset theft were legend. I had completely forgotten about it and hadn't thought of it in years. Thanks for reminding me with a great video on this.
Dartigan got any examples?
/vg/ didn't exist back then you baby
Memes not existing? Lmfao are you 12
Oh...it's you
@@Thunderstyle7 The thing is they weren't really called memes back then.
*Briggs: [knocks on screen]* "Stuck? Try [Wintermute Engine Runtime has stopped working]."
Even with how much this game nicks, I kinda want to see Briggs end up as a character in another game. Even if he's just a weird Easter egg hidden behind several secret walls.
*Briggs:* "You know what? Every secret tells a story... :D" _[does Carlton dance while Lowry levitates]_
Even better, I want someone to wholesale rip him and insert him into a game without actually adjusting anything about his assets from this game. Bonus points if it's a 3D game, so he's this super out of place 2.5D figure running around on the foreground.
It's the only way to make it truly satisfying.
I also think that the man who's playing Briggs has a very soothing voice. I'd totally pay to find that man and have him reprise the role (with better audio equipment)
If someone stole him, well, it would be just desserts.
@@arandompasserby7940 sadly I think he passed away some years ago
If those secret walls aren't ripped from different games then I'd be dissapointed.
A history Degree put to use. Mama would be proud.
BlackPantsLegion so it wasn't just rp
You're an absolute legend m8
I have no idea what you're talking about but thanks?
*henk*
BlackPantsLegion ;.;
The cutscene at 31:52 with all the ships is a from a 2003 pirates of the carribean pc game. I had it and played it a lot that's why i know. 😁
I spotted that also! As soon as you leave the first island and flee the French blockade
Pretty sure the spyglass from 14:55 is also from the Pirates Of The Caribbean game, which is hilarious given that it is a Disney movie license game.
@@ACE1918 Hahah it actually is
The character designs are truly horrifying, like legit scary. More so than actual good horror games.
Its insane how creative some of em are. Ive drawn monsters as a hobby for years and ive never managed to make anything even nearly as interesting as some of the designs in this game.
And yet, it's all wasted because they just give the monsters silly personalities and voices and most of them are friendly with the main character.
What? They're 99% just emaciated ghouös
@@SerLaama rewatch the video and pay more attention to it. If you arent interested in that you might not notice. (Not talking about every character, only some exceptional ones)
The dude with the torture device around his face and the red demon with huge teeth both freaked me out.
37:29 - That voice was stolen from the Wheel of Time, from an enemy called a Myrddraal
Also holy shit I can't believe I recognized that
Is that a game? I've only read the books.
"Every gift tells a story" And let me tell you Mandalore, what a gift you have given us.
This is like a Lucas arts game after 7 years of meth
you mean 20
@@gabrieledavidepavan2459 you mean a life time
LMFAO @ this comment; housemate asked me what all the laughter was about but they would never get it :D
I want to like this comment because it's so good but it has 666 likes. Too perfect
Its more like what jar Jar Abrams did to Star wars.
36:37 Dude, I commend you on using Marv's electrocuted screams as a running gag WHENEVER electricity is involved. Never fails to get a chuckle out of me.
I kinda dig the purgatorial vibe of this game... it actually makes me want to create something with a similar atmosphere that isn't terrible
I’m extremely late but I agree??? Also down to some of the game itself (not stolen assets lmao). I’m probably using this word wrong but it’s kinda campy?? I really love the bad graphics of the game
In addition to some character designs, GOD I REALLY WANT A HORROR/HISTORICAL DRAMA GAME THAT HAS THE SAME VIBE AS LIMBO OF THE LOST
Is it really a purgatorial vibe if the game explicitly takes place in purgatory?
Check out planescape
Crypt of Medea... ooh wait that too was terrible
The dark souls of adventure games
Somehow I keep finding myself drawn to this video every time I experience a sleepless night.
It's because you need to surrender to your darkest dreams
Oh no... Did devs stole on top of everything your dreams too?
Try Mandalore’s reviews of The Mystery of the Druids, The Forest, and Pathologic 1 and 2. If you like science and science fiction try Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur (SFIA) for and endless source of content to listen to when insomnia hits.
18:58
@@ColdHawk yeah mystery of the druids vid does it even more for me than this. Put myself to sleep with that vid countless times. And that is no knock on Mandy's content. But some of his vids are like a good hot toddy or glass of warm milk. Comfort. Glad I'm not the only one to use them this way
The real King of Limbo were the assets we stole along the way~
from this day forth i'm getting out of unwanted conversations with 'go away. black hawk trust no one. black hawk only trust birds.'
we have the same last name my friend
soy
There is a documentary made on developers of this project by Mr. Tophat, called "Limbo of the Lost: A Tale of Lies, Betrayal & Plagiarism". I highly recommend it as a supplimentary to this video.
"Oh I forgot... hold on..."
*Gets Anime eyes*
"Is that better?"
ua-cam.com/video/vy6seqOQIVQ/v-deo.html
OwO
**proceeds to three stooges anime eyes into next week**
OwO
These comments make me want to commit not living
29:46 that's the box from the smoke box tech demo of Nvidia's Geforce 8800 series. They ripped of a tech demo... Come on...
This makes me profoundly happy
ua-cam.com/video/1C6LrDzjfRw/v-deo.html
Good Lord.
"this feels like an out of body experience" is the best possible way to describe this
Making your creation a tapestry of IP theft is a genius way of manufacturing scarcity of your physical product. No one will ever have all the rights to reprint or sell the game. The initial run of this game is like a real life NFT
The ending is like one of Silent Hill's joke endings
Aren't you Rita?
The fact that briggs is real makes me think this game is a documentary from hell about a true story and the only resources they had to make this game were other media and a bunch of tape
"This came out in 2008..."
THIS? This game came out in 2008?
I don't think that's surprising. This is a very 2008 looking lower budget PC game.
@@RootVegetabIe This looks like a game from 1998
@@coolzog Believe that if you like. I obviously disagree.
giving more context, this game came out one year AFTER Crysis
@@mangckyatmamon This also came out a YEAR AFTER HL2 EPISODE 2, lol