GazerBeam isn't Real in The Incredibles - Syndrome Analysis | Pixar Perception (The Fangirl)
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I adore The Incredibles, but there's one scene that fits so bizarrely into the rest of the film, and I believe that's because Pixar is telling us an entire sub-story in the details! Let's explore GazerBeam!
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The deleted scene of Gazorbeam’s memorial service shows that he died from his wounds after escaping the omnidroid. You’re giving Syndrome way too much credit.
i agree.
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I mean, the scene was deleted for a reason, it never went beyond sketches
@@HoradeFidges Yea, but it’s not because the creators decided to give us an alternate version of GB’s death.
The fact that it was storyboarded & considered at all confirms that’s how he died.
Try this scenario on for size:
Gazer Beam was severely injured by the droid, escaped it by passing through the flooded passage, pulled himself out of the water into the cave, beaten, exhausted and dying all the while knowing the omni droid was waiting outside for him to reappear, he sat down, wrote his message, then succumbed to his injuries.
Not unexplainable at all.
yeah. she never saw the deleted scene. which explains that thats what exactly happened. even down to the detail showing he was clutching his left side to slow bleeding when he climbed out of the water and sat upright to carve the kronos password.
@@MasterOfTruck I never saw the deleted scene either, It was just simple logic.
Why is he bones, simple answer scavanger bugs like isopods ate his flesh like they do
Thats in a two month gap tho. The body wouldn't decay that much.
@@damonluker7401 Jungle insects, Driver ants.. yet another possibility.
There is a deleted scene in Incredibles 2 where Mr. Incredible gives a eulogy talking about all of the fallen supers including Gazerbeam. Also I wanna know about that newspaper in Bob’s office that’s from 2002.
hmmm, I haven't seen that deleted scene on my 4K copy, I'll have to look over it all again. But, a deleted scene comes into the question of whether or not it still counts, since it was removed from the movie.
@@TheFangirlWatches ua-cam.com/video/KwqZCmODTXI/v-deo.html this is the scene. Although deleted scenes are questionable, they should still be considered canon because the only reason why scenes get pulled like this are because of budget/time constraints for the movie itself or other unforeseen development issues, like a voice actor dying, that otherwise prevents the scene from being completed. But the layout of how GB was shown proves to be correct. He suffers a fatal cut or blast from the omnidroid v5 on his left side and gets blown off the cliff as a result. Syndrome was watching the encounter, and knew he wasnt going to survive since his hero file on Syndromes computer showed he had extremely low indestructibility. So the computer was updated as terminated because Syndrome knew he was going to die regardless if he took additional action. Him using his suit as a tourniquet to slow the bleeding makes perfect sense as the injury is still on the correct side in the deleted scene. So it implies he did it to give himself long enough to use his last remaining strength to carve the password out before succumbing to his injury. As far as the decay is concerned, yeah, theres not really anything that would skin him down to bones in just 2 or so months, even with possible insects and bacteria with the most optimal conditions. But the thing you have to remember is that this is still a kids movie rated PG, so i think having a partially decayed corpse of rotting flesh and organs wouldve definitely been a no-go.
@@TheFangirlWatches I've recently watched the deleted scene and I think GB did die in that cavern
@@TheFangirlWatches it's on youtube
@@TheFangirlWatches Personally for me, any deleted scenes that DOESN'T conflict with the established story in the film should be considered canon
A little note: A large explosion under the water would absolutely be fatal, especially in the tight quarters depicted. Water does not compress; it displaces. The human body, however, compresses nicely; in this context, an ordinary person would absolutely have been killed by that explosion, the water displacing into their squishy body and pulverizing every vital organ in it. There is the question of whether that would be fatal to Mr. Incredible, since he is after all a superhero, but an ordinary person would be dead before they even had a chance to start swimming away from the blast like he did. Given the option between water and air to survive an explosion, always take air, lay on your stomach, and turn so your feet face the blast. This will protect your brain from shrapnel better than nothing at all.
I came into the comments for this, this is absolutely why you should never be in water when an explosion happens, unless you like being crushed by the water.
If you can find a dip in the ground don't even need a hole anything that makes you even a little lower than the blast helps alot.
Also if the blast is above water yeah go in the water it'll save you from frag
Lol I just saw a video on which would be the best way to survive an explosion a while back. Never jump in the water lmao, that shit looked devastating
I will mention he has been noted to be near invincible
@@Greggery water can cushion the shrapnel and slow it down. But it can also be used as cover to protect yourself from the flames.
After seeing this I feel like the original film was much darker and troubling than the sequel but what made it so good was how aware of superhero tropes Buddy was. It was as if we could become Syndrome if we went down the wrong path in life. The theory on Gazerbeam only furthers how good of a villain Buddy is. Love it -Josh
Syndrome is definitely undervalued as a villain! He's basically all of us super fans scorned! It reminds me of the old Batman (?) saying where superheroes create super villains, and Buddy is only so good at being bad because he was shunned by those he idolized.
Voyd from the second movie is indeed a major fangirl over elastigirl, but not the same as syndrome, she's nerdy and overenthusiastic like Buddy, sure, but she's too shy to not take no for an answer, which is kind of adorable. It seems some fans are more respectful than others.
He was originally a throwaway villain for the opening of the movie to show thar villains could get ahold of supers’ identities it’s a really good opening I really liked it
In the deleted scenes gazerbeems funeral it kinda shows how he ended up in that cave
In the words of the JOKER.
ALL it takes is 1 bad day for someone to snap
There’s a deleted scene that shows how Gazer Beam dies. Also, for someone to go missing they have to be reported missing so he could have died months (or even years) before being reported missing
Especially for a super hero,someone that would want to be unknown apart from the hero part.
GB was never reported missing because they didnt know he was. the deleted scene showed us that like other supers, they were lured in secret and killed off 1 by 1. but according to mr incredible, he DID talk to GB after the supers were forced to go into hiding. which places his disappearance only around 2-4 months.
@@MasterOfTruck if you watch the film, mr incredible reads and article about GB’s secret identity going missing
well no, people are going to be reported in the week or so after they dissapear, if it took years for people to notice someone missing they likley wouldnt care enough to report them or would think something else would have happened like they just moved away and wouldnt bother starting a manhunt over it. though i do think he died years before the story began as he is a skeleton
That’s from Incredibles 2. Not Incredibles 1.
Gazerbeam’s death was actually brought up in a deleted scene for one of the movies but yeah it’s kinda weird it didn’t come up in the movie now that I think about it.
Flare FrostFire I didn’t see the deleted scene. What was it? May I know please?
Caleb Hazelton I think he’s referring to the second movie.
Koromaru the Doggo ok. Thanks for letting me know
It's a DELETED scene meaning that they decided something else was more important/cost effective for the movie as a whole. They probably figured that a lot of his death was obvious but since this video is a thing clearly not
The reason why GazerBeam is just a skeleton is because according to Wikipedia, the time it takes for a corpse to decompose is only 3 weeks, less than a month or two.
It counts on many factors
that is in the most optimal conditions which takes many factors into consideration. which is why the article says 3 weeks up to 2 years. and if its cold enough (like sub zero temperatures), skeletonization can not occur at all.
I can confirm this as I saw a dead cat under a tree and behind a fence decompose over the course of a few short weeks as a kid.
There is just so much to unpack in your video
1. Why could Gazerbeam not have died from a droid? If he was wounded in a fight tried to flee, ending up in the cave he would have died there, sitting upright against a rock and using his last moments to burn the password into the wall.
2. GB doesn't need to know all of Syndroms plan, only that he is a villain and the password and if he managed to find it out without Syndrom realising then it makes sense that he tried to leave it behind for someone to find.
3. Why would it matter that it's unlikely that Bob ends up in the same place as GB? It's a movie, unlikely things have to happen for the story to progress.
4. Flesh liquification occurs about a month after death, with full skeletization being reached as early as 4 months. (Also maybe since it's a kid movie they reduced the datails of rotting flesh hanging from the bones).
5. If Syndrom doesn't know that someone found out the password, he wouldn't feel the need to change it. Also accessing a system is not unauthorized when you got the password.
6. Syndrom didn't need to know for a fact that Bob survived until he was noticed in the computer room, also Bob didn't even call for help in the first place.
7. GB is in a cave behind a waterfall. It's possible, and very likely, that Syndrom doesn't know he's there. Also Syndrom really didn't give a crap about supers that he thought died in explosions, such as Mr. Incredible or the unknown people on the plane.
8. The movie drops the story of GB's remains, since it's a happy end family movie. You probably don't want a depressing end like that for a kids movie.
Let me try to get these in order.
1. The REAL Gazerbeam could have died from the Omnidroid attack - it's what the computer says happened. BUT, the issue is that the droid didn't kill him if Gazerbeam ran away and hid until he died, and, if that's what happened, then the droid didn't kill him and Syndrome is lying to himself in his own computer. Now, droid injuries may have cause GB's death, but for the body to be sitting there rotting, it suggests that Syndrome doesn't know what happened to GB (because he wouldn't be that stupid to leave the body sitting there for anyone to stumble across), which can't be true for many reasons. So, either the computer is wrong, or that body isn't the actual GazerBeam.
2. Why though? Why would Gazerbeam care what was on Syndrome's computer if he doesn't know the plan? And if that island is so lethal to super heroes that it's killing them all (which we can assume GB knew since he had the password), why would he want to send supers back into danger? He should have put SWIM HOME into the wall if he cared about their safety. And if he didn't care about their safety or didn't know the plan, again, why would he ever send another super into that snake pit to die again? Syndrome's tech is so sensitive that he KNOWS who knows his passwords.
3. The entire point of this video is how there's a rich, layered substory that we're never fully given in the movie, and I'd argue that's important - or at least interesting - to be aware of. Yeah, movie's gotta movie, but this isn't a cheap-o straight-to-video release. This is Pixar in their prime, and they have never been sloppy with the details!
4. That still gives us 2 missing months, and even if Pixar did look at this situation like "we don't have rotting flesh in this film!" there were still other ways to handle that issue without even showing a body. Or, he could have been a "normal" looking body that just wasn't movie. The body was there to get Bob emotional and paying close attention to the word KRONOS.
5. All high tech places for decades have logs that show who logs in when. That's why most high security computers have passwords that change daily and are randomly generated. Syndrome would know, without a doubt, if someone used his computer (that's HIDDEN behind a curtain of lava) without his permission. Even if you say he wouldn't know, there's no logical reason that a secret computer wouldn't have it's password changed repeatedly over a two month span. Yet, it's all perfectly laid out for Bob to find, and no one guard, robotic bird, or other sensor noticed him until the homing beacon went off.
6. You can look at the scanning scene two ways - Syndrome has a smug smile because he knew he "got" Mr. I. or because he knew the only place for Mr. I. to be was in that cavern/headed back to the lair. I believe the latter fully, as Buddy waited too long to end his revenge after a few moments. And calling for help is irrelevant, he was still being tracked, and THAT is what set the defense system off.
7. I think that's a big assumption. If Syndrome didn't care about supers, why torment them? If he wasn't sure that GB was dead, why mark him as dead on the computer? If Syndrome is so freaked out that Mr. I. called for help, then he'd be going crazy trying to find GB to know for SURE that he didn't escape the island to reveal any information to the cops or other supers.
8. Again, this is Pixar, who LOVES to throw in sad endings for kid movies. I'm not asking them to make a giant to-do about GB's body, but at least have Rick Dicker mention that they're retrieving his remains to lay them to rest or SOMETHING to the effect of closure on that major moment in the movie. We don't have to see the funeral or the body again to get some finality on the matter.
I like both your ideas, and my thoughts were that buddy tryed to always stay one step ahead of everyone but gazer beam was the last super before Mr. I so I always thought that buddy got sloppy towards the end. That Buddy believed he could make no mistake as with the logic of syndroms cape, and that omni did kill GB and water decompastion destroys almost all physical evidence as well picking up decomp as is the presence in the Cody Johnson murder. Just my take on things as a crime watch and true crim junkie, as well someone who grew up with the incredibles.
Your Story makes more sense
@@TheFangirlWatches well there’s a few things that I can add here. The computer is wrong and syndrome probably doesn’t take that much caution into making sure they’re dead because the computer lists mr. incredible as dead even though if syndrome suspected that he wasn’t, it wouldn’t have registered him as such. Further, gazerbeam has x-ray powers, which could have enabled him to see through the lava and see what syndrome was up to. Finally, there is a deleted scene from the incredible 2 (which you can find on UA-cam) which shows gazerbeam’s funeral. In that scene, there is a portion where it flat out shows you what gazerbeam did and how he died.
There was a deleted scene in Incredibles 2 that actually gives us Gazerbeams backstory and that story explains more how he got there. It's likely he went in on his own after another super they knew went missing because we know that Gazerbeam, Dinaguy and a few others were close thanks to the scene where they appear at bob and helen's wedding. It's likely that being a guy who fought for hero rights one of his friends got a message from Mirage and rather than keeping it to themselves got suspicious and told GB either in case something went wrong or even went there together. We also know that the scene where bob is at the computer takes place after bob sneaks back in so it's possible that Syndrome didn't actually know where GB's body was only that the droid landed a fatal wound. Finding the body with the probe would prove to him the droid did kill him thus he'd mark him as terminated. It's even possible that the omnidroid GB fought didn't have the serveylance that mister incredible's did since we know his bot was at least 3 prototypes ago. -shrug-
I always got the impression that Gazerbeam was mortally wounded, and his final chance to help future supers was to give them the clue "KRONOS". It's entirely plausible that he escaped into the cave away from the droid, and carved kronos into the wall with his last bit of strength.
The NSA files mention Gazerbeam has some radical computer skills, so it’s less far-fetched that he got the password. Also, that Syndrome would only notice when someone logged into his computer, not that someone bypassed security to access his plans
you saw that in the deleted scenes.
@@urasenseii I haven't seen the deleted scenes, that was just what I inferred. Guess it shows how good the writers are at storytelling 😁
This is the most classic example of someone reading waaayyyy to into something
I finally know more about gazerbeam and how he ended up in that cave thanks to you
IF that's Gazerbeam, you mean. We can't know for sure what happened to the original Gazerbeam - the computer suggests the Omnidroid got him. 😱
@@TheFangirlWatches Oh yea that's right hmmm there's a mystery a foot
Simon j palideno
Was killed by a omnidroid eyebeam
r i.p Gazerbeam
@@TheFangirlWatches Gazerbeam is infact dead
Edna's suit wasn't heat resistant sadly at that time.
@@TheFangirlWatches I don't see how Gazerbeam wasn't killed by the Omnidroid 5, if his file claims it did kill him. I am sure it WAS the Omnidroid 5 that killed him, which explains the year in his suit an that after getting attacked. Gazerbeam obviously didn't fight the Omnidroid 5 in the cave. He fought it on the island. After getting injured, he possibly found his way to the cave to try recovering his injuries, and before being officially TERMINATED, he revealed the password to help the Incredibles stop Syndromes plan. That makes more sense seemingly than this theory
No, there was simply a deleted scene that showed him carving out the password and than dieing with a wound in his body. There is even footage of the storyboard somewhere on the internet that you can find
ua-cam.com/video/KwqZCmODTXI/v-deo.html
I had always thought that Gazerbeem was wounded by an omnidroid and fell off that cliff and swam into the cave where he later on died from his injury
thats exactly what happened. the deleted scene board shows exactly that and how it happened.
You would be right.
Exactly you used simple logic and got the right answer instead of wasting your time with a question that already has an answer
I feel like Syndrome didn’t know that Gazerbeam was down there until he found out that Mr Incredible was alive. A drone told him Mr. Incredible was dead, the drone was clearly wrong, so something needed to be tweaked. So after discovering Mr. Incredible was still alive and looking through his password-protected files, he most likely figured something was up with the device. Instead of simply trusting the scan, he reviewed the footage and saw Gazerbeam’s final message on the wall revealing Syndrome’s password, and that the drone never actually checked behind Gazerbeam’s body, leading him to the conclusion that Mr. Incredible was certainly in that cave and had to have hidden behind Gazerbeam. Then he expresses his surprise directly to Mr. Incredible when he finally awakens from being forcibly subdued.
And referencing Gazerbeam’s deleted memorial scene from Incredibles 2, it seemed like the creators had planned for Gazerbeam to be fatally wounded by the time he made it to the cave. He ripped his uniform and tied it around the wound on his left side, just as the ripped uniform of his remains shows. Using the last of his energy, he propped himself up and left a final message in the hopes someone would see it. He was also referenced as one of the smarter but more socially awkward super heroes, seems like it would make sense for him to leave a final message like that. And if a drone found his body, he was dead by the time he finished leaving the message, no signs of life whatsoever. But that’s deleted so it needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
In a deleted scene in Incredibles 2 Gazerbeam actually did die in the cave by bleeding out.
Waaaaaaay too many illogical holes in her theory; a simple and quick "dry run" of her theory would have revealed that.
Someone made some good counter arguments and she pulled some counter arguments out of thin air. If someone makes a bad point and then refuses to back down by making worse points to defend it, it´s not worth it. They are not gone accept they are wrong.
Gazer beam defeated 2 omindroids. Go suspicious. Found the password and got into the computer found the plans. Syndromes bot attacked him, but he barley escaped into that cave. Etched the password then died of his wounds.
One thing to point out, is that Buddy would’ve marked GB as dead if he had received a fatal wound. Unless you get shot in the head or the heart, a standard fatal wound like having an artery cut would result in death in under a minute, instead of in under ten second or instantly. Due to the size of all of the droids, it likely that he may have received internal damage too severe to survive, and as such was only able to run and write down one last message before death took him. If the droids are smart enough to know if their target sustained fatal damage, that information would be relayed to Syndrome and as such GB would be marked as dead. Because if you’ve received severe internal damage, you’re not escaping, you’re going to die without an emergency room, the best trained surgeons and doctors, as well as the necessary supplies.
Also that whole explosions don’t kill when you’re underwater is INCREDIBLY INCORRECT. The blast wave from an explosive is already quite dangerous on land, but underwater, that pressure can travel much further, and do way more damage. You don’t want to be underwater when an explosive goes off in said water, because the blast wave will travel through quite easily before tearing through your body, your innards being ruptured from the extreme pressure leading to immense internal hemorrhaging and death shortly thereafter. Bullets on the other hand don’t do well at all, they go about three feet before they’ve lost all of their kinetic energy and just slowly sink to the bottom. So no, an explosive would’ve killed Mr. Incredible, he only survived thanks to having superhuman durability in addition to his strength. That’s the only thing that saved him.
"In a temperate climate, it usually requires three weeks to several years for a body to completely decompose into a skeleton." I would say even quicker given they are on an island with tropical weather.
that, and its a child movie.
True, but it's also not a good idea to assume that because it *can* happen in 3 weeks, it *will* happen in 3 weeks. The timespan you listed is massive; "three weeks to several years" is a long time. Given how huge that timeframe is, I would think that covers not just temperate climates but also more humid and dry areas. It's somewhat reasonable to assume 3-4 months on the fast end, but taking the minimum value as a given isn't safe. Of course, it's also been mentioned that it can take up to 2 months before someone is reported as missing, so there's up to 4 months for the skeleton to have decomposed.
Actually you're wrong ,there's a deleted scene where the droid shoots Gazerbeam and he dies in the cavern
True. I always had the feeling the Omnidroid 5 was what killed Gazerbeam. It makes sense the Omnidroid fatally wounded him and that the blast or claws could explain why some of his suit was torn.
Actually an explosion in water is way more lethal than being on land
That really irritated me to. Water is not really compressible (46E-6 mbar) so it would translate all the energy to your internal organs much more easily. Lol this person trying to make sense of things and using the wrong logic.
The theory is cool, but I’d say it’s more like Gazerbeam was attacked by an Omnidroid, was severely injured and hauled it. He eventually ended up in the cave, either by falling or making it there himself. Likely he had lost lots of blood, burned Kronos and sat down and died.
gazer beam was wounded by the omnidroid, and went in to the cave to die. he burned the password in to help a future super god forbid they survived. pretty simple
If I remember right the computer also says that Mr. Incredible was terminated by the omnidriod but at that point it was technically syndrome who killed Mr. Incredible. I think syndrome knew it was possible that Mr. Incredible survived but because he has “beat him” with his robot and gadgets he didn’t really care if he died or not. If he was hiding then he scared him, if he died then he won.
Syndrom may be aware of superhero tropes but he often plays into the villain ones. One of them is that he doesn't confirm if someone's dead or not, cause he's just that sure that his plan is working and of how capable he is
Idk, this is the same guy who didn't have a game plan for incase he lost his arm band
This is an awesome detail that never occurred to me before and I LOVE this movie. Even if this isn't what the writers originally thought, I'm sure they'd approve and just go with your version. Great job!
I hope they would approve! It fits in pretty well with what happens in the story, so I like to pretend that it's a concept that was removed from the script early on.
OR
Gazerbeam, being called back to fight the droid he just fought, gets suspicious, and starts to investigate. He finds Syndrome's Lava Wall Base, and is able to see that the keys K, R, O, N, and S are used quite a bit, and is able to guess the password. I'd also assume that even though the Omnidroid is nowhere near ready for the final stage of Syndrome's plan, he still has the idea to send it to the city. It seems like that'd be one of the first thing he thinks of. Gazerbeam, now aware of Syndrome's plan, tries to escape, and since he didn't have a device that makes noise, is able to escape safely. But, eventually he comes into contact with the Omnidroid, presumably over the waterfall. Sustaining lethal injuries, he runs away as anyone in that industry KNOWS when they've been beat, so yes, he WOULD succumb to his injuries, because he know fighting is futile at his point. Using his last bit of strength, he carves KRONOS into the wall, and dies. Also, Human Bodies decay VERY fast, and even if it wasn't explicitly shown, it wouldn't surpise me if the lumpy look of the skeleton is because of rotting flesh.
Also, as someone has already said, you are giving Syndrome WAAAY too much credit. One of his fatal flaws is that he's cocky. He smirked after the droid comes back with no life because he had finally succeded at his goal: Kill Mr. Incredible. Yes, he WANTED it to last longer, but he was fine if it didn't.
There are actually deleted scenes from the 2nd movie available now that show more details what happened there.
There is a deleted scene when the omnidroid shots in in the water fall he jumps finds a cave and bleed to dead and writes the word KRONOS. Pleas awnsers
*there
*bleeds to death
*the word Kronos
*Omnidroid
*shoots
*in (only one)
I don't care about spelling mistakes most of the time but if I continue to read that I think I'll have a seizure
There happy now
@@carlosyat8217 *they're
Its is unlikely that he became a skeleton in only two months HOWEVER hes in the jungle. Jungles, with their humid climates make bodies decompose at a MUCH faster rate than normal. This is partly the reason Gorillas evaded being seen by man for so long, there was never any physical evidence left behind for anyone to find. If Gazerbeam died it would take about 3-4 months for him to decompose in the jungle. That seems very likely to me
So you're saying that a body in a jungle would decompose in 3 months, while in ( for example ) europe, it takes litterally 10+ years?
One of my favorite ideas to fiddle with in writing super heroes is what happens to the super heroes powers in a state of decay. Especially in the case of energy based supers. So when a energy based super dies, what happens to all that built up energy held in? It may be that baser beams own powers in that state of decay, shredded his clothes and burned the flesh off his bones.
Idk what’s more jarring. The amount of straws being grasped at by this theory, or the fact that she said “the worst Pixar movie is better than most studio’s best films” 💀
As smart as Syndrome is, I don't think he would go through this elaborate scheme just to toy with Mr. Incredible.
Ooooh, so interesting! I love The Incredibles sooo much. Such a great choice. Good job, Megan!
Thanks so much! I just finished watching your video - what a coincidence!
Ikr this is my LEGIT favorite Pixar movie other than the sequel.
Fun fact: in the Lego Incredibles game, Gazerbeam ISN’T DEAD! Yes we run into him in the same spot but his memory is erased instead, I wonder why? 🤔
Well... the lego incredibles game isn't canon...
@@MrRobotGuyHD and need to be a little more kid friendly then that
Who's to say the previous omnidroid who killed Gaserbeam couldn't fit through the hole. We haven't actually seen it other than the depiction on the computer. I think it's safe to assume that he was pretty close to dying by the time he made it into the cave and with his final moments, carved in the password with his laser Vision
I was curious and looked at a few other videos about Kronos and the scene where Mr Incredible sneaks back inside the lab. It was Helen who gave away his presence so the loud noise set off the security system. It’s possible that Gazerbeam must’ve learned the password before he died to his wounds, either after he defeated the omnidroid he was sent to defeat or before he died on his return to Mirage Island. His lazer vision not only left the password but it was carved between stalagmites and stalactites which made the message hidden from any surface scan if it’s not in the exact angle.
In a deleted scene for the incredibles, it is revealed that Gazerbeam has both x-ray vision and laser vision. Maybe he used his x-ray vision to watch Sydrome put in the pass word from another room. Then, when he tried to escape, he was severely injured by the giant robot near the location of the waterfall. He then made it into the cave and carved out the password as his last act.
I don't think there is any in universe reason that Gazerbeam was left as a skeleton. I think the main reason he is just bones is because it is a kids movie and a rotting corpse would not be kid friendly. Idk.
I can’t wait for Toy Story 4
I think it's going to be awesome! You are adorable, btw!
Me to
It was okay
Woody goes of with bo peep
Spoiler alert 🚨
I have a theory that I'd love you to make a video about.
The Buzz Light Year in the Buzz Light Year commercial, the Buzz Light Year we follow throughout Toy Story. Think about it; Buzz thinks he is a real space ranger, but no other toy seems to able to relate. Even Woody gets frustrated at his delusion, as to say, this isnt common. So maybe Buzz was projected as the real Buzz Light Year in that commercial and then packaged?
As we see in Toy Story 4, Forky comes to life because he is projected and seen as a live, so maybe that's why Buzz thought he was real.
It's the same for the Buzz in Toy Story 2, The one out in display is probably being used by kids and seen and projected as the real Buzz Lightyear.
We never see how a Buzz LightYear is like when freshly taken out of the package. Except for our Buzz, but my theory may disprove that?
What do you think?
In the og special features their are little cards and interviews from all the other supers and gazerbeam notably defeats multiple omnidroids before dying in that cave. It is known he stayed active like Mr incredible and frozen. He baited gazerbeam the same way of keep being a hero and gazerbeam probably didn't realize how deadly it was until he was trapped there. Probably doing either marathon omnidroid fighting and survival on the island, or thinking he was just testing things out and having fun until it got too serious and he realized the real plot. Gazerbeam made his sacrifices knowing another super would be next. That man was real and a hero. You just can't show a body that fresh in a Pixar and keep the same rating. You can get away with a skeleton not a partially rotten corpse
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Actually if you're under the water it increases the blast Impact. Also he could have been injured fell into the water found The Secret cave Try to fix his bones but as he bled out tried to leave while little information he could for anyone who found him. A body can't be composed that badly if exposed to wet conditions.
“A blast in water is unlikely to cause major bodily damage”
Yes and water is dry.
Cool! I think an underwater explosion is more deadly than one in air however. That is all I'd quibble with.
and the gazerbeam deleted scene is out
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Well... Incredibles just got WAY darker, and I kinda love it. Cause it makes a lot more sense, and it gives a lot of credit that it deserves.
I always felt like Bob was cheating on Helen in the past too - there's a really weird vibe between them a few times, and it's where Helen's mind goes as soon as she finds a silver hair. Me? I'd see a long silver hair and think my husband helped an old lady do something! 😂
The Fangirl.... dude, that IS actually a good idea to think on! I mean, he WAS a super, and I wager he might’ve actually gotten a bit too close to either someone he saved or was working with back in the day, hence why Helen leaps to cheating. Not with a super, most likely, it was probably a civilian.
Though not too close, cause Helen didn’t say anything like “why would he do this AGAIN”, so I think he might’ve actually flirted with civilians or coworkers, Helen got insecure, so they talked and agreed for that to not happen anymore. So, if Helen thought she’d discovered that Bob was cheating full on, she would be an absolute mess because she thought he’d changed, she thought their marriage was sure, and that pain comes back full on, and she falls apart.
@@monroerobbins7551 the hair.... dude It was syndromes assistant. That bitch totally flirted with Mr I ALOT not to mention we don't get to see what happened inside the travel pod....
Logining onto the computer shows how far he has and is willing to go.
there's a deleted scene in the sequel where a memorial service for Gazorbeam is in progress. obviously that Bob would do something like that after knowing his friend was dead.
He was killed by omnidroid v .X 5
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“Six million superheroes? I don’t know man, sounds impossible... they only had four villains”
I think it was 300,000, and it wasn't on purpose lmao
Here's how I see it happening.
Gazerbeam fight with the omnidroid was fatal. The rip in his costume suggest a massive wound was inflicted on him. Bleeding profusely as he was cornered on the edge of the waterfall. Syndrome scanner told him the wound was mortal. Gazerbeam fell from the waterfall to the river below. Syndrome smirked as he dropped a bomb to finish any hope of Gazerbeam's escape. The fall accelerated the size and damage of his injury. A pool of blood appeared and bits of his costume appear on the surface of the water. Before the explosion Gazerbeam uses his eyeblast to propell himself into the cave. Dying and with no hope of rescue or raising the alarm to save the world. Gazerbeam crawls to the clump of rocks. With his breathing becoming harder he leaves not a password but the •• *master password* to the entire island. In hope that the next Super can use it to save not only themselves but others. In his arrogance Syndrome believed the password safe since he was sure Gazerbeam is dead. He would leave the remains to the island wildlife.
•• Remember Mr. Incredible tried to use it to password to access the rocket. "Syndrome must of change the password." So it allowed clearance to the entire island operation.
I believe this theory a little bit more but there is a deleted scene where an injured gazerbeam crawls into the cave and blasts the password into the wall, but since it’s deleted I guess you could say it doesn’t count gazerbeam has even a minor role in the incredibles 2 with flashbacks being present
GB could have found the password before receiving the injuries from the next omnidroid. He escaped to the cave where he slowly died from his injuries. Just because you don’t see any predators doesn’t mean there’s not thousands of insects in the cave that would have slowly eaten his dead body.
Agree
I can't even get through 3 minutes of this. I can't believe I clicked on it.
@@f07x99 the theory is bogus and looks waayy into what is simply a simple answer
I appreciate the thought that was put into this, it really adds another dimension to the movie & the characters that I didn't have before. A lot of what you propose would make a LOT of sense. In any case, thank you for this video.
I think what happened was the gazer found the password and did some snooping. After this they sent the robot to try and kill him. The fight wound up outside. The robot yeeted him into the lake and after gazer did not resurface, they assumed the robot killed him.
" a really smart guy he surely knows that a blast in water is unlikely to cause major bodily damage because water absorbs and displaces a lot of the power in a blast"
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NO, he is smart, so there is NO WAYS he will think that. It is totally, completely 110% wrong.
Water, being a virtually incompressible fluid, transmits the pressure wave of an explosion VERY VERY VERY well, making the lethal shockwave range quite large. It does not in any way absorb the energy of an explosion, it just transmits it.
As for "any reaction speed to move out of the way"
The shockwave in fresh water moves at 1440 meter per second. That's about 3221 miles per hour, if you are american.
Even Kal-El would have difficulty swimming at THAT speed!
A way Gazarbeam could have got there is
Gazarbeam came to the island alot more earlier than MR İncredible did and my guess is that where he died wasnt an under water place and thats where he fought the Omnidroid or maybe the Omnidroid he fought had the ability to go under water and when Gazarbeam was losing he decided to run and hide from the Omnidroid and hid in that cave but when he heard the Omnidroid looking for him and eventually go into the cave he was hiding in Gazarbeam would have realised he wasnt to get out of this alive and knew there were still some supers that were missing the glory days and would come to the island to be super again like him and many others and decided to use the last bit of energy he had to burn the password into the wall for who ever would find it and then knowing he couldnt do anything else he just sat and waited for the omnidroid and when it found him the omnidroid could have just stabed him and it could be that simple and dont forget that wet stuff get all rusty and because Gazarbeams suit is made of steel that might be why he looked like that or the Omnidroid could have killed him in a completly different way because Syndrome has got some cool gadgets and anything could of happend
But İ legit just thought of this and wanted to write it before İ forgot
Your best video I’ve seen lately, I always felt like the password carved in the cave thing was fishy but couldn’t put it together like you did 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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I'm all for fan theories, and I love to strike a balance between good fun and being too accurate to have said fun. Your theory made enough sense to make me think instead of just dismissing it as crazy and not worth my time. Nice work, and you have good taste in The Incredibles!
Great theory. Made it to the end. You got me thinking. What if Gazerbeam was working for Syndrome? I think he was and that he somehow found out all those supers were murdered or just had an attack of conscience and commited suicide. You said it was an accident that Syndrome threw Mr I in that exact spot. I think after the probe he went back or the probe showed him vid of the cave and he saw the carving. So he acted accordingly. As to how old the corpse looked it wasn't decayed enough. It was kid friendly scary. Id wager they had different versions of the corpse if was too juicy for a kid show at first or something like that. And I think he labled himself as terminated
We've been playing around in the comments that GazerBeam's chin looks a LOT like the chins of Syndrome's lackeys, so now I'M starting to wonder if GazerBeam is really dead (or if Syndrome cloned him to make minions).
Inner thoughts "play it cool man. Dont let everyone know I are losing it cuz Fangirl liked ur comment" lmao
But id bet money that Gazerbeam is a plot point in I3
@@TheFangirlWatches hmmmmm ..... what if GB never existed at all. That helmet covered half his face.... no proper "identification " its even GB at all. He may not have worked for syndrome....I mean think back to the law firm...doesn't the "spy" seem familiar.....
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I'd at least think Syndrome would want their remains to study. Either Buddy dreams of an army of cloned supers or he's come to hate supers so much that that's the last thing he ever wants. But I'd see Buddy as at least wanting their bodies as trophies.
6:18: Uh, yeah. Two months is more than enough time for any number of insects and/or other assorted vermin to have their way with a corpse. And given that Syndrome is absolutely obsessed with supers, villains, and everything that goes with them (for crying out loud, he lives in a volcano), you just know he's got a piranha pool or some other kind of deadly ravenous animal living on his island too.
Plus, just because he was REPORTED missing two months ago, that doesn't mean he hadn't been missing for longer. GazerBeam was described as one who had a lot of trouble adjusting to civilian life, which probably means he had fewer people around him, and, by extension, that it took a lot longer for people to notice his absence.
The most benign explanation would be that GazerBeam. . . Well, at least knew that "Kronos" meant something important. My best guess would be that he heard Syndrome in a villain's monologue namedrop it, did manage to initially escape from the battle drone by hiding in the cave, but ultimately succumbed to his injuries and was deceased by the time one of Syndrome's drones located the body, most likely after a significantly longer amount of time had passed between when he escaped the drone and when the body was ultimately discovered.
We can also assume that a tiny little droid incapable of recognizing the freshly dead from a long dead skeleton also does not have sophisticated enough programming to double as a 3D-GPS. Syndrome probably sent the drone out and got it back days later with only confirmation of death.
Pixar did indeed clearly take into consideration that GazerBeam's death had a narrative, but that doesn't necessarily mean the narrative is intriguing. Yes, the story is there, but it's not so complicated that it warrants a deep dive.
EDIT:
There is one VERY important detail you missed. When Mr. Incredible is reviewing the supers vs. omnidroid timeline and GazerBeam's name appears, we hear the sound designating termination TWICE.
Which means GazerBeam DEFEATED AN OMNIDROID. Which means he was put through the same paces as Bob, including having extended access to the island.
So there's your answer: GazerBeam discovered "Kronos" some time in between his successful defeat of an Omnidroid and his surprise attack by the second one that ultimately caused his death.
15 years have passed when supers gone underground but they do not age syndrome's grasp killing real heros so he can pretend to be like em when filled with hatred when sent the droid to wreck the city before underminer arrived getting the loot in the scene winston's father was in touch with gazerbeam and fironic when tried to call them when the break in occurred by the goons when killed.
What if gazerbeam is still alive
The he might be one of Syndrome's minions that attacks everyone else!
Since your body is mostly water, the blast in water should’ve actually been lethal because the water outside the body displaces the water inside of the body which would’ve ruptured organs. Take a look at Mark Rober’s video on the grenade ground vs. water
Thought he escaped from the previous droid and was dying slowly due to massive amount of blood loss
I know you’ve seen this comment a million times but in the deleted scenes for I2 it shows Gazerbeam succumbing to wounds after presumably escaping the droids.
While the reason for deletion is probably because it was a bit weird to fit in I think it can still be a part of your theory. It may be possible that Sydrome found the body, but chose to leave it there as a purposeful clue to any who found it. So I think he could’ve lead Mr Incredible there on purpose or wanted him to go there to figure it out to make everything more fun and interesting. It’s also why he didn’t chase after him after he found he was presumed dead
We should petition Pixar for a Gazerbeam solo movie
well it was confirmed in a deleted scene he was gravely injured to barely move after falling of the cliff and the with the encounter with the omnidroid. And that syndrome did not know that he carved in the password because the robot only looked for a sign of life.
Gazer beam probably escaped into the cavern like mr incredible but didn’t find a way out and died of starvation
Uhm If He’s not Real...Why Did The Mention GB in Incredibles 2? The Father that loved superheroes and was FRIENDS with GB and Called him , He didn’t answer cause he was Dead in the caves.
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but (I think) in the Bonus Disc, it is revealed that Gaserbeam was once part of a super team. And their base? Syndrome's island. This means that Gaserbeam would've already known the computer password.
An explosion underwater can pop or damage your lungs.
Gb could been hurt by the robot.. and died from injury. So it did technically kill him. We also didn't know if he found the body right away
the first point she made was wrong so I'm just gonna leave now. Bye.
My theory: Gazarbeam fell into the cave and grabbed a nearby skeleton ripping off parts of his clothes and strapping it onto said skeleton. Allowing him to escape the cave and the island itself, all somehow undetected by Syndrome and his forces. Even though later he was truly terminated by the robots.
The computer said that Gazerbeam was dead; it did not specify a cause of death. Similarly, the computer said that Mr. Incredible was dead, despite Syndrome being the one to supposedly kill him, so the 'terminated' message in the computer does not imply they were killed by the Omnidroid.
I feel like syndrome never knew the cave existed, Gazer beam might still be alive, there might be a guard who went into the cave and gazer beam killed him, taking his uniform and got the dead corpse to wear his suit, escaping by wearing the guards uniform, living a normal life, he also must have burnt off his skin to bone so they will never recognise the body
My theory is so much better
Maybe Gazerbeam had another power. To see peoples thoughts.
Gosh, a really good video!! :0
I'm gonna consider this whenever I rematch the film now!
Syndrome's a smarter bastard than first imagined, and if the movie staff deserves the credit for this hidden part of script/writing(making it part of the movie in the first place) than they certainly *deserve it!* Or you're just really smart lol
That was hell of a lot of fun! More theories. That's all I want. this is all I ask for. *Great Job :)* ! .
Also mr incredible when he got attacked by the first omnidroid (in his blue and black classic suit) he took a slice from it and he didn’t bleed along with the fact that he was thrown into a rock and stayed awake and wasn’t knocked out cold and was attacked by the super heated omnidroid and practically walked it off after this indicates that he might have a healing power and miner invincibility and super strength
That theory was brilliant. If that's true, that makes Syndrome one of the top five Disney villains of all time!
I did have the notion that Syndrome's guard were all clones of Gazerbeam, but your idea is much better.
They do all have that chin, don't they?! I never thought much about the guards, but wouldn't it be interesting if they were all mind controlled supers?
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Enjoyed the video, especially the part about planting the Kronos clue not just in the cave, but possibly in various locations on the island.
Makes me wonder about other ways Syndrome would write this message at the supposed graves of other supers,.
This video was amazing. I think you might be connecting dots that where not intended to be related, however.. . . . . . Your explanation is better then any other one! I wish the writers had talked to you before finalizing everything because this would have been an "Incredible" character building moment in this already amazing movie!!!!! Thank you soooo much for making this!
Is it me or does buddy look like Mr. incredible
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So the scene with Gazerbeam's remains in that cave was set up by Syndrome?
Anyway, thank you for this video.☺
It make sense
Was to convenient that a skeleton just appear signing the right direction to Mr. UNIVERSE
Yeah it feels like a total set up, and I'd bet there are a few of those skeleton (using different supers) set up all over the island in weird little hide-y holes.
Yeah and for all we know, some could maybe still be alive and out there somewhere especially plasmabolt, since we don't see her on the list in the database (or maybe she was on there offscreen). Maybe some of those skeletons are fake and at least some of the supers managed to escape. But then again, knowing Syndrome, he'd probably want to make absolute sure that they're all disposed of because they could report what was going down on the island to the NSA, unless they were all too scared and just stayed in hiding or were blackmailed into keeping quiet somehow, but I feel like they wouldn't all be that cowardly.
@@harlowitter3060 actually what about that spy agency....the man working for it.... doesn't he look extremely familiar? Like curtain so called dead GB....
@@Silver_wind_1987_ the agent I think is meant to be a cartoon parody of Tommy lee Jones, which kinda makes sense with him playing a federal agents in several of his movies.
Edit: I just realized you’re the same person I replied to on another comment. No I’m not trying to single you out just a coincidence.
This is a good video. I also love ❤️ your voice. The entire thing was done like a pro 👍.
It’s explained how gazerbeam died in it deleted funeral scene in incredibles 2
I think this is too much in the realm of conspiracy theory territory.
It's still fun, but i doubt that was the intent
Maybe you're right, but I like to give Pixar above-average expectations for their stories. They tend to think of a million details that never make it into the final product, and, like we see, the only point of the password ended up being to get Bob back inside where Buddy could more easily capture/control him. Bob could have built a raft and tried to escape the island (and he's one of the few supers strong enough to accomplish an escape like that), but instead he went back to the most dangerous place possible. Awfully convenient that the skeleton had an agenda, that the computer had easy access to Syndrome's plan, and list of murdered heroes...
I made it to the end
Wow so much detail that I hadn't even noticed before, and this is one of my favorite movies!
Poison. The robot that killed GB had poison in its arsenal.
He got poisoned with something that accelerates the decay. But gave him some time to leave the clue behind.