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Bad MEAN KillingMACHINE! P-47D-22 RE Razorback! - USA - War Thunder Review!
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- Опубліковано 3 вер 2020
- War Thunder Realistic Gameplay.
P-47D-22 RE Razorback Realistic Battle, America's famous Fighter.
War Thunder American Realistic Battle (featuring P-47D-22).
War Thunder, Patch 1.101, Raining Fire. P-47D realistic footage.
Today its time to fly out the P-47D-22 RE Razorback in a Realistic Battle. Flew out with the P-47D-22 for the first time since release of 1.101, Raining Fire. To check out its current performance, and found out exactly what this plane is about in RB, lets see how it went. Hope you enjoy :)
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Hey guys, 2nd Patch 1.101 video, this time we're looking at the US Razorback, the P-47D-22 RE. Fantastic looking plane, which, for me, has more character to it then the bubble canopy versions. Hope you enjoy! And dont forget to like, comment, SHARE, and Subscribe for more! Have a great day!
Hey Jengar are you aware that FWs for a new flight model? From what I've read in the notes they have better maneuverability (less stiff elevator I imagine) and buffed vertical stall speed. In exchange for worse overheating and limited WEP. I could be wrong about some of these. Have your tried out any 190s yet?
Jengar I started using the p38g and no i get 3 kills in realistic and with the p47 I never got a kill
Can you pls do a vid of p38e or p38g
Havnt tried the 190's yet blue. Crocky, i have reviews up on the E and the G. their still relevant.
>Climb
>meanwhile in low altitude, Allied Teams get massacred by axis
>Dive for help
>Germans over my head says "Hi~"
>shot down
>Don't dive, just ignore the stupid team
>5 minutes later, only me and one bomber left
>B-But i hAVe A HiGH gRouNd. I can BnZ them
>2 minutes later some axis planes climb to my alt while i am BnZing some german baits
>shot down
Yep, welcome to allied experience. By personal experiece I can say that staying high is your best option, even if you're not invincible because of it.
For a german below you to be able to get to your alt they'll have to work as a team, one will bait, never getting too far from you so that you stay interested, but never letting you get too close so that you have dive to try and get to him; the other planes will have to extend away and climb. Fighting agaist more than 1 enemy with alt advantage is a game of patience, time and accuracy.
You have to kill your enemies quickly, but you can't dive and give away your only advantage, so you have to be very efficient with your shots, you can't afford to miss and go for a second engagement.
Headons can be your only way to win as well if everything else failed, in a 1vsMany situation headons are acceptable.
That being said you have to get gud tho, full commit headons are never acceptable, and you will need discipline AND good aim to be able to carry an allied team. Oh, and you will need luck, a lot of luck.
If ALL allied players climbed this would never be an issue.
@@FunkyEspelhoCat i never understood why allied teams are always dumb, is it cos the most popular nation attract the most new people ? Who also don't know aircraft technicality and history ??.
I'm a F4U 1c and Spitfire ix main mostly, i kinda try to stay on brit cos i got too many US plane fully researched but never got the lion cos dumb team. Idk maybe its my playstyle or my 300m aim but i never manage to solo carry like adam enginerd
@@Errorcutive solo carry in a spitfire is a urban legend tbh. Shit high alt performance + shit guns means you'll always die if you're alone. Unless you're a demigod like adam.
The only spitfires I enjoy are the ones with 4x hispanos, you can snipe 109s with them when they're zooming away from you, but you're still fked if you're alone. Don't take my word for it tho, maybe i'm just bad at flying spits.
Teams are extra weak atm due to all the stock planes, it'll stabalize over the next week.
As one of the first P 47 this one should have air spawn.
The P47 were originally intended to be interceptors at high altitude.
maybe, but it might make it too powerfull.
Jengar Well if it struggled it would need it. Personally I don’t care for it to have one since corsairs and other thunderbolts with meh climbs don’t get one...
Even tho Ta 152s H/C and 190s get air spawns still (even though they don’t need it much either considering their performance and guns). It’s weird. I’d give the thunderbolt a 500m-1000m airspawn above the airfield. If you get to around 270mph and zoom climb at 15 deg, and then start climbing at optimal climb speed you’ll be climbing well.
@@BARelement Normal P-47s will be nice with an airspawn, but don't give the M an airspawn It'll smmmaaasshhhh everything (I play both the M and two Ta-152s)
Abraham Louw I’ve played the P 47M at critical altitude, against a FW 190 D 12, and Ta 152 H and honestly I held my own. However I just feel it’s too easy for them. I had to pull skill, and out luck to the max.
Doesn’t help that a lot of times in top down shots 50 cals don’t do enough. If I hit the pilot and engine that should atleast hamper performance some. But yeah the M is a monster, the D 28 is well a monster too but not the same (it just has decent climb).
But if you give it to the D22-25 they’d be upwards of 7km with 109s dominating, but it’s up to the 109s to bait them to 5-6km and play their horsepower at those alts.
I just started the short grind for the p51 and then to the razorback p47 anyway love the content buddy keep up the awesome work
Cheers mate! and have fun flying them!
MEC tip for all P47´s: 85% prop pitch, 85% mixture, all radiators closed and wep all day long.
This P47 is quite similar to D25 but looks better.
75 I think😐
looks better indeed!
I put radiator 100 and prop pitch 100 and I have wep all day
@@jengar6258 75% works fine too but 85% is better to cool down the engine i think.
@@Robhoopshifts Full radiator slows you down a lot and is entirely unnecessary. If you want max prop pitch you can do it with like 40% radiators or less, depending on the map.
The truth of your words make me feel guilty. My premium P47n sits in my hanger fully loaded with bombs and rockets.
Despite being a bomber pilot by nature I promise, in future, to clear high first before chasing tickets in the weeds. In a clean P47 of course.
Thanks Jengar for setting my pilot's mess straight. 👍
you're welcome Matthew! Good to see you in the comments again btw, you've been MIA a while :)
Now we just need a birdcage Corsair!
more planes more joy!
The P-40 N. We need the P-40 N at Rank III
@@MarvinT0606 P-40N, B-26, F4U-5, F8F-2, rework the F6F and give the -3 and -5 variants, FM2 Wildcat, XP47J Superbolt as possible premium or event vehicle, and that's just for the US....the possibilities are endless!
@@bodenplatte1360 Dude,there are tons of interwar and ww2 aircraft and their variants still missing from the game.
@@bodenplatte1360 rework the F8F to where it's actually flyable.
I'm fine when the 109s climb rlly high, but what I hate most is when the zeros climb just as high, they can out climb and outturn you, so basically you're screwed
Dive tho. they can't beat you in a dive 😂
and still, many ppl dont have the patience to stay high for long. So sideclimbing is still very effective.
This plane with the p51C was one of the most important plane that was missing in Warthunder!
Yeah, definitely :)
I love the razorback variant, and I'm glad the RAF are getting one as that is my main tech tree.
fair enough mate, its definitely something new in the tree.
Was waiting for this!!
Me too
o7
Thanks Jengar!!! I’ve been waiting for this epic video :D
You are welcome david!
I have not followed your videos for a couple of years now, since I switched to SB and left RB completely. However, I saw your Razorback video and had to check it out.
How most allied teams go:
If you sideclimb:your whole team dies due to the lack of alt,enemy promptly deletes them,and theres also the chance that you might encounter that random guy in a 109 or 190 sideclimbing in the same area like you,killing you while youre slow or being swarmed after diving to low alt
If you climb directly at the enemy:You either get dived on or are able to kill some enemies that are about the same alt,then we pushed to low alt and dived on
And the rare matches when you sideclimb but your team somehow manages to still kill most if not all enemy fighters without sideclimbing
Tbh allied teams are bad not only due to groundpounding but also due to the unforgiving nature of the planes.After all my matches in these planes im still pretty meh but even that can be completely negated by coordonation(Ps4 here btw)
these things happen with regularity indeed ;)
except the getting killed when slow or unprepared. You got to scan for the dots and adjust accordingly.
“Good against a remote is one thing. Good against the living, that’s something else.” - Han Solo
"Do or do not, there is no try!" - Yoda
I had a series of games where me (P51c-10) a p51d5 and a p47d22 and we won every game we played. Many p51c10s are now upgraded and are starting to dominate. Boom and zoom the 109f4 and g2/trop, turn fight the 109g6
alrighty then :) good to hear!
The P 51 C actually climbs really well (atleast with MEC) and if you side climb you have all your performance. In the Thunderbolt even if I’m below max performance alt (7.5-9.5km high) I can do well against the 109s due to pilot skill.
sure, but if you meet a 109 with a half decent pilot, you wont beat him in a dogfight with this plane. But in general i agree, pilot skill is everything!
Jengar Honestly I’ve beat half decent jugs, 109s, fw190s in dogfights with the p 47 D. Maybe it’s skill and my MEC but I do pretty well with the flaps.
However depending on energy state the dogfight might be a lost cause. Energy is everything. If you have the correct momentum, flap control, throttle control, and MEC not much can beat you ESPECIALLY at 8km high. 8km+ you have to screw up badly to lose.
I’ve fought a good G2 pilot in a p 51C he couldn’t ever kill me but because the guns are trash I couldn’t kill him (got nothing but hits). In situations like that I’d rather have the thunderbolt because at that altitude I’d have nearly the same performance but would have the guns to match.
All and all I don’t think this plane is all too bad but maybe it’s me and my preference.
Imo, the bubble is prettier but the Razorback is way more iconic
i've been flying the Ki-43 OTSU the last few days and wiping the floor of the new guys trying to spade this and the P-51c. It has been fun =)
i can imagine ;)
I believe you could make a sewing machine with wings a deadly fighter, Jengar :)
hehe, if it flies i'll try to get kills with it! :)
The Razorback will be a god if you use her right I carried a game with six kills out of a 10 per team game and i adore her
can imagine sir!
Jengar bloody hell man didn’t know you’d reply to me
Jengar if you ever need another spaded P-47 I’m always down
Ive been waiting for the razorback for 5 years!!! Now I just have to grind it out.
Indeed sir! fun times ;)
I’m waiting for the b17f
Yes, I’ve been waiting for an early P-47 for a long time
same here!
I had a very different experience with the Brit premium Razorback. Firstly, in seven games, six were lost. In five of them, I was the last plane on my team as I side climbed, I’m not good enough to carry so that’s a lost game. In the other lost game, completely my fault, I’d become frustrated so went after a bomber and got jumped by the inevitable heavy German fighter from above me. Mea culpa. I should say, I do quite well in the other Thunderbolts. I really enjoy playing them and do pretty well, with a k/d of about 2:1 (good for me, anyway). But the razorback? I know seven games aren’t enough to make a judgement, but half the times I died, I burst into flame after a hit or two. It felt more like a zero in its solidity. Maybe it’s the British teams? I do best in the Hitlerbolt and Stalinbolt - German and Russian teams tend to be better than American ones, but I do ok in the American Thunderbolts as well. I was really looking forward to this premium Brit as I do much better as BnZ and the poms don’t have many planes good for that. But so far, I’ve been disappointed.
i noticced it as well, the teams are all in the stock new american planes for allied teams. It should pass.
True, the damage model is horrendous compared to other P-47s. But the most annoying - engine sniping, ie. the entire plane is ok but the engine is insta-dead.
@@solomonarbc welcome to the bf 109 experience,if a bullet so much as touches your engine,its going to die.
Jengar! You are lucky you don't play ground forces. Can't believe Gaijin added MORE p47s for killing German tanks! BTW I love the channel! :)
ty sir! this one has limited bomload options. But still good enough to kill a few tanks indeed.
GREAT video, Jengar!
i love the P47D-22 since the frsit battle i have i have 800 kils in arcade whit the buble version so i know how to play this THICK GIRL.
Should be fun then rory!
ew arcade
@@muxite6035 it shouldn't you idiot, it's litteraly 1 spawn, if you die, its death, are you high or what?
Still waiting for that F2G Super Corsair
sooon..
So the whole razor back thing is more aesthetic than functional?
looks great doesnt it? ;)
In the real aircraft the Razorback had better lateral stability than the later variants until they added a fillet to the tail seen in the P-47N
@@johnbeauvais3159 It was also a problem with the P51D until they did the same with it.
Peete N/A True and after the war they added an extension to the vertical stab as well
Outstanding, thank you.
Cheers mate!
Hi can you please say what ammo belt you were using I need as much help as possible I cant even get a kill in realistiv
uni
I was looking forward to this one
hope you enjoyed!
@@jengar6258 yup, good work
Nice job Jengar...those two 109's at the 13 + min mark...(smh lol).
yeah hehe, thanks!
Nice video brother 👍 I'm a big fan of your content,
BTW what type of ammo belt do you use for the p47d22?
I really love the new planes and can't wait to use them once the hype is over. But my favourite addition of this patch is propably the new broken feature for the german bombers. Now the 288 is even more toxic :,D
what new feature? i missed that.
@@jengar6258 Looks like it, abuse it as it is still possible.
For some Reason from 4.7 to 6.0 it takes only 11 50kg (272kg of tnt to be precise) to take out a weak base (25 for a strong) so on most maps you can take out all 3 bases with an 288 (or 177 even 4) and still have some left. Af damage is also hyperinflated, about 100 50s to take it out. So 4 288s or 3 177s could end the match in one run. I tried to set up a squad to do so since I found out yesterday, but wasn't able to since :/
The only difficulty is to get 11 bombs on one base, I try to either stall infront of it or dive with the breaks, but managed to get all 3 with some luck.
Reward stays the same, even though you only bomb 272 kg tnt instead if 1000 per base.
But you are not the only one, only met 1 pilot so far who also found out.
Ty
o7
Add the Martin B-26 Marauder and I’ll be satisfied.
Can you outrun german planes like the 109 or the 190?
109 yes, 190, more equal depending on the model.
Glass engine (insta-dead kind), more fragile than other 47s, and that glorious tail blowing off WT mechanic.
Who tested this plane before release? How hard was it to copy a D-25 and just use the visuals of the Razorback?
Gaijobles quality control ...
okay, i didnt have those problems so far.
@@jengar6258
If the engine is hit it dies very fast, unlike other Radials. It's like the RNG of every shot goes to the least probably crankshaft hitbox, instead of the many cylinders (18). Others claim very good marksmanship but let's be real: .50 calls don't saw off wings (wing struts), consistently, having a high rate of fire, while 1 single 20mm nose mounted cannon, cannot hit the same spot in a deflection shot either (rate of fire).
@@jengar6258
Also, I found a forum page from 2015, where it seems Gaijin did the same thing to the engine DM of an F4F-3.
He protecc he atacc but most importantly,
He have razor bacc
indeed!
I like this one better than the P 51 that I am trying to fly.
Both are fine planes! :)
it was good plane to fly but that have 1 problem
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*Allies Team are the problem*
hehe
its offtopic, but do you know how to turn on in the options to put markers and names on the ground targets?
i havnt touched the options menu in years mate. I'm sure its in there somewhere
They have added in some new bombs to war thunder
mines no?
Cool!
o7
How do you apply to the NMY squadron?
Apply ingame to =NmY= Unrivaled
What is the best p47?
Does the razorback come with any skins you can unlock
i think one, but i checked all planes, im not sure anymore ;)
p47 was only used for ground pounding after most of the luftwaffen was defeated and air superiority was pretty much in allied hands. remember the only thing realistic in warthunder are the vehicle models.
And yet the Thunderbolt still racked up almost 4000 air to air kills. It was designed as a fighter, it just so happened to be able to carry a lot air to ground ordnance.
yep, yep :)
What’s the best ammunition?
Tracers
The pilots flying the earlier models complained about limited view, so the "bubble" was the solution to that issue
roger that.
I think Gaijin was a little too hard on this plane with its battle rating... 3.7 or 4.0 would have been much better since it is worse than the D25...
Ill take a 47 over a 51 any day of the week. Even the more clunky N model.
How is the N model more clunky? I seem to have more success in it than my D-28.
P47M is an animal at 5.7. I’ve had a few k4 players spitting feathers, the whole line is brilliant just bit of a hard stock grind compared to some aircraft
yeah stock their difficult, and they'll always need sideclimbing.
@@dilet1114 take em both into air assault (co op). Its a good place to compare since you can spawn as many times as you can afford it. Use the N first for a few waves, then try the D model. Did it just yesterday and there was a noticeable difference. Both are fully upgraded. The N model has a bigger wing from what read about it. It was on Wikipedia though so make of that what you will.
Edit: D28
IMO this plane needs airspawn. The climb rate is just terrible, even when spaded.
needs sideclimbing, thats for sure!
R u dutch
yep!
fucking op plane should nerf
Yeah, can't say that it's lean to be honest
2088HP vs real 2100HP is fair :D
compressor, engine and injectors are illegal because they bring the plane over max power
(still WEP is unreal with 30min of max use)
....anti G suit by dunlop.....still fair even if it wasnt for p47.....but for FAA (english)
...
in short a little unfair this plane
but i know i know X,,,D USA kiddos will cry if they play realistic and fair without "crossout" mods
Yeah I wish it was at 4.0
@@e.t6374 for me this plane with all unfair and unrealistic mods is a 4.3 - 5.3
Yea
this plane isnt 5.3, never. It's quite a bit slower then the D-28, and thats not 5.3. The performance of the razorback doesnt warrent it.
@@jengar6258 is above his performance a lot, 3 mods, anti G suit. for OP planes there is a buff in the ranking system,for me.
i repeat, USA player base, most are crybabies that dont want realistic MM. this is the reason behind his low tier, because between monsters where it belong, noone could play it :)))
1st
job done!
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ewwww gross
it's cocpit is so ugly compared to the clean bubble canopy
and this what so called razorback is full of bars and i hate these cocpit designs
even the 50 cals of this plane is just so weak so it could take 1/4 of your ammo
unlike the modified 50 cals for the D versions
taste differs, and that is good ;)
I wouldnt say that theyre nerfed after the 50. cal ap buff;)
Razorbacks are beautiful!
The R A E TEST FLEW THE P 47 and FOUND It had a very disappointing mach no. In the dive mach 0.71 . Very poor .
One of the test pilots was Eric wincle Brown