Regarding the cable management, we can absolutely customize the on-wall speakers to include a notch for cable routing. In most cases, people have cable already routed in the wall, so we had prioritized a clean finish over including a notch every time. But, in this case, we apologize to George for not building these speakers for your cable needs.
I'm enjoying these videos and feeling some upgraditis symptoms. Youthman would be proud of you as well as Shane Lee as he also has RBH speakers in his theater.
Another great small HT video!! 🎉 I want RBH full setup but I would be very happy to take those mono price speakers off ya for my first true HT setup! 🎉😊 btw. My bedroom is 11X11! ! 🎉
I would never sacrifice direct sound for an aesthetically more pleasing mounting option. Because of the wallmount your rear-speakers are now off-axis 40°... My initial 5.2.4-setup consisted of 5 wallmounted speakers in the bed-layer (Jamo D500 LCR) and I upgraded to speakers with controlled directivity which are aimed at the main listening position. The difference ist staggering.
A bit off axis is really not that big of deal, especially with dome tweeters. Frequency response will be corrected by the DSP. Not to mention the rears probably being the least important.
We loved the RBH speakers at MWave. I saw you and wanted to say hi and talk shop, but my wife, daughter, and son were hungry for lunch. Lol. We keep going back and forth between the impression line and building the Toid diy presence 10 speakers.
The problem with in-wall and on-wall speakers is the fact you can't angle them like book shelf speakers. You need a T-square. Most people installing on wall speakers run the wire inside the walls. I know that is not possible in rentals.
You should consider embedding these on-wall speakers inside acoustic panels. Aside from completely hiding your surround speakers, when you surround an on-wall speaker with insulation, you effectively eliminate any SBIR effect that the speaker might have with the wall it is mounted to. I am curious to know what kind of bass response you are getting from these speakers. As in, what are you measuring in your room, not what the spec states.
I'm glad you are enjoying your new speakers! The woofer looks like a version of a Dayton reference aluminum. I have used a 10" one in a pair of days and a 4 " in a portable blue tooth I built. They sound really good. But I don't know they used them even though it looks identical
Our drivers are proprietary and have been carefully engineered by Shane Rich. It's close to the Dayton Reference drivers, but ultimately we adjusted the T/S parameters to our liking and performance needs. Cheers
@rbhsound thank you for responding, the look well engineered. I have used the Dayton reference 10" paper cone which I really like and the 4" aluminum reference on my portable Bluetooth and it sounds really good so I can only imagine how those must sound.
@@BostonMike68 they are a special driver. We won 3 awards for product of the year in 2024 that utilized that driver. The 85-i, the 5-i, and the 5600-iwr. Truly a testament to their capability. Happy listening.
@@rbhsound I have seen you on audioholics ! You built those beautiful speakers and subwoofers for Genes theater. I design my own speakers. I would love to work for you guys 😉
You’ve already been up in the attic running wires for the atmos speakers…do you have access to the wall headers up there? Could drop them down into a small hole behind the speakers, remove the channel on the wall, and have them just floating on the wall?
Too late as you've already done the work, but as you're going to have to patch screw holes anyway. What you should have done is measure exactly from the bottom of your cable trunking to the wall bracket. All you would need is a very small channel cut into the wall just above the trunking ( like you mentioned) and the cable be sunk into the wall very briefly as it passes the bottom of the speaker, allowing for the speaker to be completely flush and no visible cables whatsoever.
As for the notch in the speaker for the cable, RBH prob assumes the speaker wire will be coming out of the wall within the confines of that perimeter gap.. I agree there should be another solution. I almost thought you were gonna cut out a notch in the speaker itself! 🎉 ahh! lol Oa. It just a visual trick or are those rear speakers lower than the sides? 🎉
Regarding the cable management, we can absolutely customize the on-wall speakers to include a notch for cable routing. In most cases, people have cable already routed in the wall, so we had prioritized a clean finish over including a notch every time. But, in this case, we apologize to George for not building these speakers for your cable needs.
No worries!! The speakers are fantastic! I didn’t realize a notch was an option. That’s good to know! I’ll pin this comment so people are aware.
Wow Youthman better step up. This man is taking all the free gear these companies handing out doe a simple unboxing. CHEERS 🍻
i give you best award for the patience and doing things your own, great enthusiasm towards setting up ht as you like
I'm enjoying these videos and feeling some upgraditis symptoms. Youthman would be proud of you as well as Shane Lee as he also has RBH speakers in his theater.
Wow, excited to hear what these sound like!!! And really interested in purchasing a pair for my rear surrounds. The form factor is a game changer!!
Can’t wait to hear your comparison thoughts
Another great small HT video!! 🎉 I want RBH full setup but I would be very happy to take those mono price speakers off ya for my first true HT setup! 🎉😊 btw. My bedroom is 11X11! ! 🎉
I would never sacrifice direct sound for an aesthetically more pleasing mounting option. Because of the wallmount your rear-speakers are now off-axis 40°... My initial 5.2.4-setup consisted of 5 wallmounted speakers in the bed-layer (Jamo D500 LCR) and I upgraded to speakers with controlled directivity which are aimed at the main listening position. The difference ist staggering.
smh
you dont even know how they sound
A bit off axis is really not that big of deal, especially with dome tweeters. Frequency response will be corrected by the DSP. Not to mention the rears probably being the least important.
We loved the RBH speakers at MWave. I saw you and wanted to say hi and talk shop, but my wife, daughter, and son were hungry for lunch. Lol. We keep going back and forth between the impression line and building the Toid diy presence 10 speakers.
Nice.. You can always tape the e tray wire to the bottom 💯
The problem with in-wall and on-wall speakers is the fact you can't angle them like book shelf speakers. You need a T-square. Most people installing on wall speakers run the wire inside the walls. I know that is not possible in rentals.
You should consider embedding these on-wall speakers inside acoustic panels. Aside from completely hiding your surround speakers, when you surround an on-wall speaker with insulation, you effectively eliminate any SBIR effect that the speaker might have with the wall it is mounted to.
I am curious to know what kind of bass response you are getting from these speakers. As in, what are you measuring in your room, not what the spec states.
I was thinking about the bass, as well. Can't be that great, as they have no port and have a shallow depth.
What speakers mounts are they for the monoprice?
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@@GeorgeTheaterAtHome Thanks
I'm glad you are enjoying your new speakers! The woofer looks like a version of a Dayton reference aluminum. I have used a 10" one in a pair of days and a 4 " in a portable blue tooth I built. They sound really good. But I don't know they used them even though it looks identical
Our drivers are proprietary and have been carefully engineered by Shane Rich. It's close to the Dayton Reference drivers, but ultimately we adjusted the T/S parameters to our liking and performance needs. Cheers
@rbhsound thank you for responding, the look well engineered. I have used the Dayton reference 10" paper cone which I really like and the 4" aluminum reference on my portable Bluetooth and it sounds really good so I can only imagine how those must sound.
@@BostonMike68 they are a special driver. We won 3 awards for product of the year in 2024 that utilized that driver. The 85-i, the 5-i, and the 5600-iwr. Truly a testament to their capability. Happy listening.
@rbhsound that's great! I'm going to check out your website
@@rbhsound I have seen you on audioholics ! You built those beautiful speakers and subwoofers for Genes theater. I design my own speakers. I would love to work for you guys 😉
Would they serve as good on ceiling Atmos speakers? How's their dispersion?
RBH has a better solution for on-ceiling speakers. My previous video highlights that model.
It would work really well! The angled version is better for directivity, but the 5-iw offers great omnidirectional performance.
You’ve already been up in the attic running wires for the atmos speakers…do you have access to the wall headers up there? Could drop them down into a small hole behind the speakers, remove the channel on the wall, and have them just floating on the wall?
those on-wall speaker boxes are so shallow, I wonder what technical wizardly allows that.
Seems strange to not account for the speaker wire on a wall mount speaker. A small notch at the bottom like Arendal does would have been pretty easy.
Agreed. Sounds like ‘Dremel Time’ to me (but yes - the manufacturer should have notched the rim of the cabinet).
@@ChihuAudioMan Dremel you read my mind good suggestion
RBH has clarified a notch is an option when ordering the speakers. I wasn’t aware of this previously.
@GeorgeTheaterAtHome nothing is impossible for RBH
@@SkylakeProCinema many thanks! We certainly do try to make solutions for everyone.
Too late as you've already done the work, but as you're going to have to patch screw holes anyway.
What you should have done is measure exactly from the bottom of your cable trunking to the wall bracket.
All you would need is a very small channel cut into the wall just above the trunking ( like you mentioned) and the cable be sunk into the wall very briefly as it passes the bottom of the speaker, allowing for the speaker to be completely flush and no visible cables whatsoever.
As for the notch in the speaker for the cable, RBH prob assumes the speaker wire will be coming out of the wall within the confines of that perimeter gap.. I agree there should be another solution. I almost thought you were gonna cut out a notch in the speaker itself! 🎉 ahh! lol
Oa. It just a visual trick or are those rear speakers lower than the sides? 🎉
It’s a visual trick. They are the same height. I’ll be putting the monoprice speakers up on the local FB page if you’re interested.
You are very correct. But we can customize to include a notch for these applications, we just failed to have that conversation with George.
Complete the system with a kef kc92, another engineering marvel in a compact cabinet. You'll thank me later.