i love the movie. I like how you criticize the plot of this movie and how boring the villain is even though its the exact same plot as thor ragnarok. Literally every character has a parallel in Thor.
One of the biggest issues in my eyes around Superman feeling so wrong is that he appreciates earth and humanity the way an alien who sat back and studied it would, and not like someone who has not only lived there, but it’s the only thing he knew for 99% of his life. Clark should be a guy from Kansas who just so happens to be an alien, not an alien that just so happens to be from Kansas.
If a disabled or neurodivergent person was directing a similar Superman story it might have come out nuanced and interesting, considering the brief but relevant depiction of Superman’s powers causing him actual distress as they developed during his childhood. Like, Zack Snyder’s Clark Kent would have been shunted into the Special Ed program if he actually had outbursts like the one they show in Man of Steel. So many interesting directions that experience could take a character in, many of which would have more organically introduced a tension between Superman as an othered alien and Clark Kent as just a guy from Kansas
Tbf the other groups didn’t hide their boxes. The Amazonian put theirs in a huge cliffside stone vault and the Atlantians had theirs in a museum or something
in a cgi saint seiya movie, they gave the characters full face helmets so they wouldnt have to animate their faces. which looked like barbies anyway. like, their eyes looked like stickers on top of the head.
@@DAEsaster Christ that whole debacle... like dude just use the same costumes the female costume director had them wear, did the actress like outgrow it or something? As a fully-grown adult woman did she outgrow it?
My favourite underrated bad line of the movie is when batman is like "this box can bring life to a planet... but what if you're stronger than a planet" and it's meant to be really epic and like "oh shit he means superman" but like... what the fuck does "stronger than a planet" even mean, like how strong is a planet? My sister and I both started laughing when we heard that line because it's just so silly but when we googled to see if anyone else were talking about it we just found some nerds discussing whether superman actually is stronger than a planet and we were totally dumbfounded because... you can't compare a being to a planet like that, what are the metrics??? Like a planet can't benchpress anything so I guess I'm stronger than a planet too...
It depends on the planet, there is one planet that is just a giant Lantern Corps ring i believe and some Planets statistically have to be sentient if go like beings are a thing
I feel like Zack Snyder wants Superman to be Dr. Manhattan but also doesn't understand that Dr. Manhattan is not supposed to be an aspirational figure.
That is... a genuinely smart observation. Smart and extremely upsetting. I haven't been this upset at anything Superhero movie related since... uh. Since this movie came out. Thanks for ruining my day. 😶
‘Now the world has gone to bed, Darkness won’t engulf my head, The room is filled with glowing red, How I hate the night.’ Cyborg, the Paranoid semi-Android.
Because they stole the tech from Tony Stark without instructions for it. The Federation from Star Trek did that too, as you can see in two first of the new movies. Too bright light everywhere.
@@autumnramble Speaking of, do DC characters and Marvel characters share the same universe in some capacity? Like do Marvel civilians have comic book stores full of DC superhero tales and vice versa or do they just not exist because they already have a whole spectrum of superheros
@@deffdefying4803 Forgive the necropost, but kind of. At least in the comics, DC and Marvel used to take the piss out of each other by having there be mock-versions of the other company's characters appear as pop culture in their comcis. They do share a multiverse, technically. The Marvel and DC multiverses are actually the same multiverse, they just only touch at one point (and that point may or may not have been destroyed), meaning most superheroes are only able to stay on their "side" of the multiverse. The point where the touch is called Earth-9602 by the Marvel Side and the Amalgam Universe by the DC side.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Considering how this particular corpse was resurrected, I like to think the takeaway here is that Doomsday canonically smells amazing. You'd never guess it from looking at him, but the perfume girls at Macy's practically swoon when he saunters through the door.
God it’s refreshing to hear someone talk who really actually understands Superman and his motivations, which these movies have completely lacked understanding
@@bigdadybojangls9219 Another 3 years later, someone needs to remind people that Superman's character and motivations have been rendered inconsistent in the comics numerous times. However, it was actually the generally wholesome 50s show that made him far more murderous than Zach Snyder ever could. There's an episode where two people learn his secret identity and try to blackmail him. He flies them up to a mountain and threatens to drop them. They point out that he's Superman, and Superman doesn't kill people. So, for the sake of a pedantic loophole, he decides not to kill them...but to rather just leave them on top of the mountain where they will either freeze or starve to death. The episode ends with Clark in his office, laughing as he reads the news report about the discovery of their corpses. There are only 3-4 episodes of that series I vividly remember, but that one definitely gets second billing (top billing goes to the one where we meet an alternate Superman who's just some country bumpkin with a pet donkey, and the real Superman has to team up with him to keep two mobsters from stealing a slice of pie).
@@hushofnight honestly I feel people would love this movie if it were secretly about the formation of the Super Friends and not the Justice League. The movies going forwards have the same dark tone but they’re about the Super Friends.
"How can we make an indestructible alien from outer space that grew up with a humble family in rural America interesting?" "I dunno. Make him flat, confused and unrelateable." "I don't think tha-" "Also, his upper lip is made of jelly."
"Yup. It's about five feet deep. That oughta do it. Herpy derp derp..." That would have been more convincing dialogue than *anything* the Flash said in the entire film.
@@avanishdutta2658 What the fuck is your point? murphy didn't even say Zack Snyder did a bad job. You're angry because you read two comments as one comment.
I always thought it would be funny with Aquaman if every time a song was playing on the surface, as soon as he jumped underwater the music was muffled and distorted like sticking your head underwater. Imagine the entire score of the Aquaman movie that way.
Marvel films are just as badly written as DC films in that there's no internally consistent world building, no well crafted dialog, no attention to plot detail, no imaginative suspenseful original well paced plots, and no multidimensional characters who learn anything. It's just that *some* of the Marvel film characters are likable due to their wit, such as Iron Man, instead of them being unlikable, such as Star Lord (emotional infant) and Superman (dead beat dad).
SeaOfTides are you high? No well constructed dialogue? No internal world building...... mcu only fault is that it doesnt kill more of it characters and that its not serious enough with all jokes, but to say its bad is wrong. Wtf.
...and a lot more character development so, you know, you might care about the individuals and understand why they weren't just working as a team to solve the common problem in the first place
I suspect you didnt even see the film and are just joining the trend of hating on the movie cuz it underperformed box office wise. If u watch it u might like it though.
@Ethan John Some people being able to turn their brain completely off to the point that they "like it" and people saying "My Little Pony has had more complex episodes and concepts" are two *dramatically* different things with no relation to eachother - you can comprehend that, right? I mean, I "like" Mallrats, but that doesn't somehow make Mallrats a good example of film-making - it's shit. Granted it's better shit then this shit, and it is shit I just happen to enjoy; but it's still absolute shit.
If you enhance the funnyness and let the dark parts out, you got the new batman and robin an al its funnyness with more of those lines. Jenny needs to advise movies
@@user-uc2he9wb2f It was really popular when it came out, but I watched it for the first time fairly recently and thought it was very... I don't know how to describe it besides weird, but not like "fun weird", like "tries to take itself seriously but has really dumb things in it"--weird.
The big elephant in the room is that according to the story arch. superman has only been around as superman for like 2 years. Half the people don't even like him according to BvS. So how could he be the fabric that holds humanity together? when he only showed up long enough to destroy half of metropolis with the bad guys and then die a few months later? Why would steppenwolf wait till the kryptonian was dead... He had only been around for like 24 months maybe... Because of the idiotic plot line of this whole series these movies are doomed for stupidity. You cant write story elements like superman has been around for 25 years saving people and at the same time only have him around for a short time. You cant have Batman be an old man and have cops act like they've never seen him before like its batman begins. You cant have Superman going after batman when he would know that Batman is working with Gotham police for like 20 years and they even have a bat signal in the sky. Its absolutely a completely screwed up mess of utter garbage.
Timothy Guy a good writing could have made it work. For example until superman turned up darkseid never saw earth as important l, indeed he saw it as technogically backwards and not worth the effort. Then suddenly because we of Superman and his battle with the Kryptonians, the earth military decides to upgrade its military to an extent where it is able to advance technogically in decades in just a few years (thanks mainly to the found kryptonian ship) seeing this darkseid sees earth from a primitive people to one who is capable of conquering his world. No t exactly comic based but at least there would be motivation and a theme to explore.
Let's not forget that scene where one of the policemen blamed Batman for stealin people like he ain't been around for 20 years stoppin crime... LOL.. Great points..
_"Why would steppenwolf wait till the kryptonian was dead... He had only been around for like 24 months maybe..._ That part actually makes sense: Superman could easily kill him.
That's a really good point; "Godlike being tenuously linked to humanity by a connection with one romantic interest" isn't Superman's character, it's Doctor Manhattan's. SNYYYYYDERRRRRRR
Alan Moore created Doctor Manhattan to replace Superman in the Watchmen story because DC didn't allow him to use the Justice League to write that graphic novel. That's why they similar.
Richard G If you had died, then came back to life to find four very strong people, three of them complete strangers, one of them who was there the night you died and then got shot at by one of the strangers , I️ guarantee you would start fighting them, then when the man that tried to kill you and was possibly the reason that you died walks up and wants to be friends, one of the only people who can talk you out of killing him, or at least making him pay for what he did, are people who are close to you, hence Lois Lane, also the fact that Batman called her the big gun was alluding to the fact that she would be one of the few people who could bring Superman back and to the fact that she was his secret weapon if anything went south.
Thank you for mentioning the complete lack of space, or environmental continuity, during the fight scenes. It made the fight scenes even more pointless to follow. Wait wasn't he over there? Oh wait, weren't they just underground? How did they just... Never mind, just wake me when this scene is over, since it's obvious how this is going to end anyway.
My favorite part was when they had finished fighting Superman and Diana looks back and is like "the box" cause they had just left it unattended like a puppy in their car and the villain just made off with it. That made me laugh really hard.
Bitter, angry Jennifer is the best Jennifer. It's like multiple times during this video she was breaking character and quaking with visible frustration at how impossibly shitty this movie was.
nd4spd Usually her delivery style is deliberately aloof, detatched, understated, dry. That's her "character", so when you see her get visibly frustrated, angry, or amused, it becomes that much funnier because you know it takes a lot to rile her up.
nd4spd Well keep in mind that when I say "character", I'm not implying she's being phony or putting on a pretense or whatever. I don't know Jenny, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's like this in real life too. When I say "character", I'm really referring to the overall combination of delivery, tone, and general "vibe" you get from her videos. It's sort of like how your favorite stand-up comedian is, in a sense, playing a "character" when they're onstage, even if the material is a reflection of who they are as a person.
*nd4spd* Bullshit. The only people who don't have a 'character' are sociopathic CEOs. And by that I mean _every_ CEO. And children, who I like to refer to as "those adorable little sociopaths".
My favourite bad moment from these movies is when superman say he was "just doing good deeds for a ghost" implying he only became superman because that's what he thought his dad wanted when his dad made it VERY clear that he didn't want him to use his powers to help people. But I guess snyder just forgot he wrote the story that way.
Was excited to see Justice League when I heard the villain was Steppenwolf. Picturing them on stage doing Born To Be Wild and the Justice League shows up to take them out and save the world from 60s music. Total bait and switch.
I would absolutely love it if at one point someone gets wrapped in the lasso and just says the whole truth but in like a scathing sarcastic tone so it's unclear whether they're actually telling the truth or not
Hearing Jenny call the people of Atlantis "Aquamensians" and "Aquamens" is one of the cutest things I have seen all day that is now what they must be called in all DC media
You make a really solid point in the movie's concern with keeping the powerful Motherboxes apart being completely contradictory to the message of "We are stronger together."
She was commenting on the fact that the Mother Boxes should be kept apart exactly like ... The Infinity Stones. She gives it away by mentioning all the different Marvel movies that did moments in JL but did them first.
It was a small critique about the movies plot hole, but a massive critique about the DC universe bringing heroes (without strong foundational cinematic universes) together, even the bad ones that should "stay in the ground", and expecting something good to come of it.
The Bat Man BAD, The Fish Man BAD, The Robot Man BAD, The Fast Man BAD, The Flying Man BAD, The Strong Woman actually pretty good. - A Summary of DC Movies
No one is going to explain how Clark Kent is living a simple life. The dude died coincidentally when "Superman" died and came back to life at the same time. NO ONE PUT THAT TWO TOGETHER!!!!
It seems that DC has completely forgotten that their heroes identities are supposed to be secret. Bruce would never allow evidence that he is Batman to float around on the Internet for Cyborg to stumble across.
Well Lois Lane figured out Clark Kent was Superman in 30 minutes, Lex Luther knew as well but Batman the greatest detective ever and is clueless the entire movie....DC makes crap movie
"What is this movie about?" Nothing. it's about limping to the finish line with only one good limb (Wonder Woman) and realizing that one good part really doesn't need all this dead weight to thrive.
*Was* his face in CG for the bulk of this movie? My husband and I kept looking at his face and something just seemed...off. We couldn't put our finger on it. It seemed fake.
Holy cow that's actually a huge relief. It was bothering us so much while we were watching, but we had no idea why they would need to actually do anything to his face. I didn't know he was actually sporting a gloriously thick 'stache he couldn't get rid of. I don't even wanna know how much money was wasted lol.
i've heard a lot of mixed reviews about this film, but this was just the most brutal take down i've heard. i'm sure screen junkies pays better but i'd love to see a crossover with you red letter media.
If you don't watch the movie then please do not have an opinion of it... I'm not saying you do already good or bad, I'm just asking you to not have an opinion if you don't watch it...you have no "right"...
@@frehleyisgod One can form an opinion of something from hearsay and reviews. Whether or not that opinion is correctly informed only concerns the person who has the opinion. It is not your concern. Do not concern yourself with other people's opinions if they don't immediately affect you.
Unless you were replying to the other comment. If so, I apologize. I find Jenny's posts very intelligent and amusing. If people misinterpret my initial comment, I'll delete it.
Kevin W. Eaches Yeah, I was replying to the other guy. Your comment was fine. Don't know why the respond-button is acting up for me, but in either case, I'm sorry for the confusion.
I’d be bothered, except I’ve always felt Joss Whedon was massively overrated.. Either way, Justice League looks total balls. I just watched Last Jedi a seventh time instead. Made me happy. :)
WB are to blame for justice league sucking, not joss whedon. They did not give him any creative freedom so what you see on screen was Warner bros screwing the movie up.
Joss Whedon does deserve shade (from lifelong fans like me , as well as everyone else) but not for this particular garbage-fire. This smells of DCEU executive nonsense, and it's really ruining my life right now. So stanky.
Seriously, that motherbox analogy at the end is the most brilliant examination of the DCFU out of all of the DCFU criticism online. I'm honestly mindblown.
Yeah... He had lightning bolts streaking off of him or something, and they pasted him into the CGI environments so that he looks like he's traveling too fast... Weird.
Best review of Justice League I've seen and most entertaining. You should think about doing stand up comedy. Something was needed to lighten up the tragedy of this disaster.
I love when you mimic your thoughts during a movie it's hilarious. And your videos are always so funny. "Just carrying some humans in my human container" 😂😂😂
8:21 Oof, that's a good point. Considering how supposedly important Superman's mom was to him in the previous movie, (save Martha!) it's kind of sad that he just... doesn't care about her now.
Wait, so...a super powerful alien comes to earth to find a magic box, and a collection of superpowered people have to learn to work together as a team to stop him? GEE I WONDER WHERE WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE
Nunya Bidness They didn't have to do that particular story. They have plenty of stories to choose from to have as their starting point. I personally think it would've been really cool if they each had gotten a solo film and in JL, the villians from each movie came together to form a group reminiscent of the Light from Young Justice. That way, it's original, it would flesh out all the characters (including the villians, which Marvel has really only done for Loki and the Vulture) really well, and each member of the JL would've had a really good reason for being there.
The origin of the JL in the comics is them forming to deal with an alien invasion. It is trying to be true to the comics, tho it wan'st Steppin wolf. But htey wanted to have alead in to a larger menace which is Darkseid. It is actually the Avengers who more or less took the JL's origin and copied it. The Avengers did coem together to deal with Loki but there was no aliens in volved in their origin.
I got really confused when you started mentioning Watchmen until you added "I hope Zach liked it". Okay now you're just being mean xD But it was hilarious. I mean this whole thing was super funny, I lost it at the box's exploration of the themes contradictions and DCEU in general. That was so good, I'll definitely watch more.
OMG i had the same reaction the the flash wonder woman boob thing. i was like "this was for sure a whedon insert. dude is self cannibalizing his old movies now. laaaazy"
Justice League is Awesome
Lol no
I love that Jenny pinned this XD
Awesome to make fun of.
i love the movie. I like how you criticize the plot of this movie and how boring the villain is even though its the exact same plot as thor ragnarok. Literally every character has a parallel in Thor.
Kehinde O, how is it the exact same
"Because the writers have seen/read [better piece of media]" is one of my favorite running gags in a video essay
particularly funny when said media is one they previously worked on themselves
This ain’t a video essay
That is a funny bit though lol
“because the filmmaker saw watchmen”...
@@gabrielle3960 Did Jenny know it was Zach who directed Watchmen or was that part of the gag?
@@clyde2599 I’m almost 100% certain she did because she’s just that funny
One of the biggest issues in my eyes around Superman feeling so wrong is that he appreciates earth and humanity the way an alien who sat back and studied it would, and not like someone who has not only lived there, but it’s the only thing he knew for 99% of his life. Clark should be a guy from Kansas who just so happens to be an alien, not an alien that just so happens to be from Kansas.
Good observation!
Yeah, that's where Objectivism'll take ya. Altruistic protagonists are beyond Snyder's ken.
@@BrendanMcGinley yeah superman =/= John Galt lol. Snider's politics manifest strangely in his films
If a disabled or neurodivergent person was directing a similar Superman story it might have come out nuanced and interesting, considering the brief but relevant depiction of Superman’s powers causing him actual distress as they developed during his childhood.
Like, Zack Snyder’s Clark Kent would have been shunted into the Special Ed program if he actually had outbursts like the one they show in Man of Steel. So many interesting directions that experience could take a character in, many of which would have more organically introduced a tension between Superman as an othered alien and Clark Kent as just a guy from Kansas
@@sideways5153 That was very insightful and well-said. Thank you🙏
My favorite part is the "montage of suffering"; which consists of hoodlums kicking over baskets of fruit.
OMFG! I thought Jenny must've pointed out the worst flaws. But I keep reading the comments and find out hilarious shit like this.
Wow, is that the 21st-century version of the MST3K fruit cart cliché?
Yup.
My cabbages!!!
The banality of evil.
The movie is about teamwork, except in the end when they win just because Superman can beat up the bad guy by himself. Eat it, teamwork.
Like a lot of anime.
g a s p
that _is_ a lot of anime
There's no I in team...
...but you can find two thirds of it in supErMAn.
@@harpodjangorose9696 >two thirds
Do you mean three-fourths?
Superman. The very definition of a Supermario Su.
Oh, but kryptonite. There. Fixed. Now he's balanced.
The funniest thing is that burying the box in a shallow hole was the most effective way of hiding it.
Tbf the other groups didn’t hide their boxes. The Amazonian put theirs in a huge cliffside stone vault and the Atlantians had theirs in a museum or something
literally. it was ridiculously shallow?
Why is Cyborg wearing sweatshirt? Because it would be way too expensive to show him as he is all the time... That's the only reason.
He could've been wearing a literal cardboard box for all I care, he just should've been a really optimistic and fun guy a la Teen Titans 03
He cold
in a cgi saint seiya movie, they gave the characters full face helmets so they wouldnt have to animate their faces. which looked like barbies anyway. like, their eyes looked like stickers on top of the head.
@@Mngalahad in endgame the winter soldier has his hand in his pocket the whole time so they didnt have to cgi the arm in
@@alia.99 talk about laaame
I think her cosplay represents how the studio tried fixing this universe, just put a little tape on it.
Specifically a little Wonder Woman tape. Yes.
me writing an english essay
And also representative of the obvious (male-oriented) difference in the Amazon's costuming
@@DAEsaster god, don't remind me
@@DAEsaster Christ that whole debacle... like dude just use the same costumes the female costume director had them wear, did the actress like outgrow it or something? As a fully-grown adult woman did she outgrow it?
My favourite underrated bad line of the movie is when batman is like "this box can bring life to a planet... but what if you're stronger than a planet" and it's meant to be really epic and like "oh shit he means superman" but like... what the fuck does "stronger than a planet" even mean, like how strong is a planet? My sister and I both started laughing when we heard that line because it's just so silly but when we googled to see if anyone else were talking about it we just found some nerds discussing whether superman actually is stronger than a planet and we were totally dumbfounded because... you can't compare a being to a planet like that, what are the metrics??? Like a planet can't benchpress anything so I guess I'm stronger than a planet too...
It depends on the planet, there is one planet that is just a giant Lantern Corps ring i believe and some Planets statistically have to be sentient if go like beings are a thing
@Not Important More relevantly, that character basically never does anything so presumably Superman is stronger by the laws of pOwEr sCaLiNg.
It's introducing Unicron!! Transformers X DC crossover!!
@@gazeboist4535 Ben 10 can beat supes lpl
@Not Important ah i wasn't 1
Fully sure that's good though
"Are you going to cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife?" I was like daaaaamn, shots fired
S Friedman "well maybe if he was ge''in what he needed at home (snap snap snap) mmm hmmmm"
I dont get it? Zack cheated on his wife?
@@Mario_Angel_Medina This is why Male feminists have a bad reputation.
I never got this. Married people cheat all the time. Family values people turn out to be gay a lot. People are hypocrites, and water is wet.
savage
“you gonna cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wi-“
Reindeer Food holy crap that sent me rolling
Laughed SO hard at that part XD so awesome
got emmmmm
She really came for him lol
Best part of the whole video lol
I feel like Zack Snyder wants Superman to be Dr. Manhattan but also doesn't understand that Dr. Manhattan is not supposed to be an aspirational figure.
I'm pretty sure almost nobody in The Watchmen is supposed to be aspirational
@@williamdunlap2446 bingo ❤️
@@williamdunlap2446 I dunno, mate, when I saw that tentacle monster at the end part of me definitely went "GOALS."
@@NovemberXXVII is being the tentacle monster goals, or being *with* the tentacle monster the goal?
That is... a genuinely smart observation. Smart and extremely upsetting. I haven't been this upset at anything Superhero movie related since... uh. Since this movie came out. Thanks for ruining my day. 😶
"I'm so excited" she says at the end, voice shaking with sadness, a single tear rolling down her cheek.
It must be really annoying for Cyborg trying to sleep at night when just by existing he's lighting up the whole room with his bright red lights
I like to imagine he also emits a constant low-level whirr like a cooling fan on an old computer
Jenny Nicholson I'm stressed out just thinking about it
Cyborg doesn't sleep.
‘Now the world has gone to bed,
Darkness won’t engulf my head,
The room is filled with glowing red,
How I hate the night.’
Cyborg, the Paranoid semi-Android.
Un chat domestique Best comment award goes to...
My favorite part was when Lois Lane randomly looked at superman and said "you smell good"
its ya boi's cologne
After he's been in the ground for months that's just creepy.
"You smell good. You smell like dirt and kinda dead. I like that."
Mmm, decomposition.
I'm the like n. 666. I'm proud of that somehow
"Does the Cyborg tech not have brightness setting?" ...best quote.
Very true!
Reavyn I died laughing
Because they stole the tech from Tony Stark without instructions for it. The Federation from Star Trek did that too, as you can see in two first of the new movies. Too bright light everywhere.
@@autumnramble Speaking of, do DC characters and Marvel characters share the same universe in some capacity? Like do Marvel civilians have comic book stores full of DC superhero tales and vice versa or do they just not exist because they already have a whole spectrum of superheros
@@deffdefying4803 Forgive the necropost, but kind of. At least in the comics, DC and Marvel used to take the piss out of each other by having there be mock-versions of the other company's characters appear as pop culture in their comcis.
They do share a multiverse, technically. The Marvel and DC multiverses are actually the same multiverse, they just only touch at one point (and that point may or may not have been destroyed), meaning most superheroes are only able to stay on their "side" of the multiverse.
The point where the touch is called Earth-9602 by the Marvel Side and the Amalgam Universe by the DC side.
I cried laughing when they go back to the farm and Lois Lane is like "You smell good". It was so uncomfortable
Thank you Lois...
for your input...
"Did I not before?"
@@myoldacct “I mean, before you hadn’t died and didn’t smell like a corpse.”
She'd grown to like the smells of working the Kent farm and Clark had just been dug up and smelled like dirt.
@@Blueeyesthewarrior Considering how this particular corpse was resurrected, I like to think the takeaway here is that Doomsday canonically smells amazing. You'd never guess it from looking at him, but the perfume girls at Macy's practically swoon when he saunters through the door.
God it’s refreshing to hear someone talk who really actually understands Superman and his motivations, which these movies have completely lacked understanding
3 years later, I still need to be reminded that there are people like this out there lmfao
@@bigdadybojangls9219 Another 3 years later, someone needs to remind people that Superman's character and motivations have been rendered inconsistent in the comics numerous times.
However, it was actually the generally wholesome 50s show that made him far more murderous than Zach Snyder ever could. There's an episode where two people learn his secret identity and try to blackmail him. He flies them up to a mountain and threatens to drop them. They point out that he's Superman, and Superman doesn't kill people. So, for the sake of a pedantic loophole, he decides not to kill them...but to rather just leave them on top of the mountain where they will either freeze or starve to death. The episode ends with Clark in his office, laughing as he reads the news report about the discovery of their corpses. There are only 3-4 episodes of that series I vividly remember, but that one definitely gets second billing (top billing goes to the one where we meet an alternate Superman who's just some country bumpkin with a pet donkey, and the real Superman has to team up with him to keep two mobsters from stealing a slice of pie).
So what are we, some kinda Justice League?
What are we, some kind of Super Friends?
Wait, say that again?
@@hushofnight they mark their friendship by saving the world!
@@hushofnight honestly I feel people would love this movie if it were secretly about the formation of the Super Friends and not the Justice League. The movies going forwards have the same dark tone but they’re about the Super Friends.
"How can we make an indestructible alien from outer space that grew up with a humble family in rural America interesting?"
"I dunno. Make him flat, confused and unrelateable."
"I don't think tha-"
"Also, his upper lip is made of jelly."
“Why does everyone keep telling me that?” As a response to “we have families!” Is the best and only characterization Steppenwolf receives
"Yup. It's about five feet deep. That oughta do it. Herpy derp derp..."
That would have been more convincing dialogue than *anything* the Flash said in the entire film.
WHAT. IS. BRUNCH?!
Dude, I'm not kidding, I laughed for 15 minutes at that joke :)))))
At least Flash's cheezy lines were (or can be interpreted as) intentional.
Why do I feel like Jenny put more thought and care into her Wonder Woman costume than Joss Whedon put into the movie?
I mean Joss Whedon didn't design the costume Zack Synder did, since he shot like 90% movie then left.
@@murphy7801 and only 10% of what he shot was used. Yeah, zack is truly to be blamed. Bravo, you have achieved maximum intelligent superiority.
You should watch the snyder cut.
@@avanishdutta2658 the studio is the blame for being so wishy washy about what they wanted the movie to be. The Snyder cut is at least a movie.
@@avanishdutta2658 What the fuck is your point? murphy didn't even say Zack Snyder did a bad job. You're angry because you read two comments as one comment.
"What are you doing Joss, you gonna cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife?" This line is so unhinged and I was not prepared for it.
I always thought it would be funny with Aquaman if every time a song was playing on the surface, as soon as he jumped underwater the music was muffled and distorted like sticking your head underwater. Imagine the entire score of the Aquaman movie that way.
"Aquamanians"
First video of yours I've seen, and I'm subscribing just for that.
Fuzzy Barbarian but that was specie-ist
Dragon Soul DING.
After being a lifelong comic book and superhero fan, I have to say that I am unbelievably burnt out on this "cinematic universe" idea.
Year after year of lousy films will do that to anyone.
lil toot
In general, for me at least. Marvel's movies are decent, almost good, but still quite predictable and unimaginative.
Marvel films are just as badly written as DC films in that there's no internally consistent world building, no well crafted dialog, no attention to plot detail, no imaginative suspenseful original well paced plots, and no multidimensional characters who learn anything. It's just that *some* of the Marvel film characters are likable due to their wit, such as Iron Man, instead of them being unlikable, such as Star Lord (emotional infant) and Superman (dead beat dad).
"I am unbelievably burnt out on this "cinematic universe" cash grab."
FTFY
SeaOfTides are you high? No well constructed dialogue? No internal world building...... mcu only fault is that it doesnt kill more of it characters and that its not serious enough with all jokes, but to say its bad is wrong. Wtf.
"What are you doing Joss, you going to cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife?"
Jenny, you're awesome.
I wonder who he had an affair with. I have 10 Gs on Cobie Smulders.
that was pretty fucking cold, also her beef with Johnny Depp is also based on bullshit
Johnny Depp did nothing wrong. No, seriously. He did nothing wrong. He ain't Chris Brown.
Savage af
I literally spat out my water at that point i screamed
Contrapoints has some pretty nice costumes and all but this is a whole other level
I dream of a Jenny/Contrapoints collab...
“It is now fun... like Guardians of Galaxy”. LOL
My Little Pony has had more complex episodes and concepts than "we need to work together as a team".
I doubt it. Neckbeards watch that programme because they are turned on by horses.
...and a lot more character development so, you know, you might care about the individuals and understand why they weren't just working as a team to solve the common problem in the first place
SeaOfTides you say that even though you haven't even watched the show. Have you not heard the saying don't judge a book by its cover.
I suspect you didnt even see the film and are just joining the trend of hating on the movie cuz it underperformed box office wise. If u watch it u might like it though.
@Ethan John
Some people being able to turn their brain completely off to the point that they "like it" and people saying "My Little Pony has had more complex episodes and concepts" are two *dramatically* different things with no relation to eachother - you can comprehend that, right?
I mean, I "like" Mallrats, but that doesn't somehow make Mallrats a good example of film-making - it's shit. Granted it's better shit then this shit, and it is shit I just happen to enjoy; but it's still absolute shit.
6:07 Well look at that! I guess I do bleed! WAKA WAKA
that part killed me
If you enhance the funnyness and let the dark parts out, you got the new batman and robin an al its funnyness with more of those lines. Jenny needs to advise movies
sometimes i remember it was Joss Whedon who made Buffy and then i cry a little
Crazy right??
My sister says that he’s the greatest director of all time because he wrote Buffy and like... Is that enough to cancel out movies like this?
Buffy wasn’t that good in my opinion
@@user-uc2he9wb2f It was really popular when it came out, but I watched it for the first time fairly recently and thought it was very... I don't know how to describe it besides weird, but not like "fun weird", like "tries to take itself seriously but has really dumb things in it"--weird.
Buffy's... okay, in my opinion. But I understand your pain because I'm a Firefly fan.
The big elephant in the room is that according to the story arch. superman has only been around as superman for like 2 years. Half the people don't even like him according to BvS.
So how could he be the fabric that holds humanity together? when he only showed up long enough to destroy half of metropolis with the bad guys and then die a few months later?
Why would steppenwolf wait till the kryptonian was dead... He had only been around for like 24 months maybe...
Because of the idiotic plot line of this whole series these movies are doomed for stupidity. You cant write story elements like superman has been around for 25 years saving people and at the same time only have him around for a short time.
You cant have Batman be an old man and have cops act like they've never seen him before like its batman begins. You cant have Superman going after batman when he would know that Batman is working with Gotham police for like 20 years and they even have a bat signal in the sky.
Its absolutely a completely screwed up mess of utter garbage.
Timothy Guy a good writing could have made it work. For example until superman turned up darkseid never saw earth as important l, indeed he saw it as technogically backwards and not worth the effort. Then suddenly because we of Superman and his battle with the Kryptonians, the earth military decides to upgrade its military to an extent where it is able to advance technogically in decades in just a few years (thanks mainly to the found kryptonian ship) seeing this darkseid sees earth from a primitive people to one who is capable of conquering his world. No t exactly comic based but at least there would be motivation and a theme to explore.
Let's not forget that scene where one of the policemen blamed Batman for stealin people like he ain't been around for 20 years stoppin crime... LOL.. Great points..
_"Why would steppenwolf wait till the kryptonian was dead... He had only been around for like 24 months maybe..._
That part actually makes sense: Superman could easily kill him.
Idazmi7 where was he before superman came? He was alive since flashback
+Moangus PIckard
_"where was he before superman came? He was alive since flashback"_
Presumably, Steppenwolf was in space.
"You gonna cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife?"
Hello, 911? I'd like to report a murder.
LOL
"Hmm, I guess he was closer with Pa."
Hahaha that made me laugh out loud. I was thinking something similar when I saw that scene.
"You gonna cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife?" hahaah Joss Whedon is gonna need some neosporin after that sick burn.
*Geosporic
@@DillonExner I knew this comment was here.
I was literally about to write geosporic
That's a really good point; "Godlike being tenuously linked to humanity by a connection with one romantic interest" isn't Superman's character, it's Doctor Manhattan's.
SNYYYYYDERRRRRRR
Richard G his only connection isn't Lois watch the movie.
.... Pretty sure he also loves his mom.
Alan Moore created Doctor Manhattan to replace Superman in the Watchmen story because DC didn't allow him to use the Justice League to write that graphic novel. That's why they similar.
Richard G
If you had died, then came back to life to find four very strong people, three of them complete strangers, one of them who was there the night you died and then got shot at by one of the strangers , I️ guarantee you would start fighting them, then when the man that tried to kill you and was possibly the reason that you died walks up and wants to be friends, one of the only people who can talk you out of killing him, or at least making him pay for what he did, are people who are close to you, hence Lois Lane, also the fact that Batman called her the big gun was alluding to the fact that she would be one of the few people who could bring Superman back and to the fact that she was his secret weapon if anything went south.
SirToby Martha!!!
Oh wait, wrong character. 😆
Thank you for mentioning the complete lack of space, or environmental continuity, during the fight scenes. It made the fight scenes even more pointless to follow. Wait wasn't he over there? Oh wait, weren't they just underground? How did they just... Never mind, just wake me when this scene is over, since it's obvious how this is going to end anyway.
To be fair, Whedon did cut Snyder's film to fuck.
(And to be fair to Whedon, WB did order him to cut 40 minutes.)
Kyle Smeby I never felt that
Yeah I knew what was going on the whole time. Maybe you just didn't pay attention?
The magic boxes are basically plot cupons. "Yes, I have three boxes and I'd like the free world destruction, please and thank you."
"There. I fixed it. It is now fun like Guardians Of Galaxy."
My favorite part was when they had finished fighting Superman and Diana looks back and is like "the box" cause they had just left it unattended like a puppy in their car and the villain just made off with it. That made me laugh really hard.
“WHOOPSIE!”
My favorite part of the movie was when Batman was doing one of his clever musings and ended it with "what if you were stronger than a planet?"
Weaponized wit... That's Jenny's superpower.
I like to think of it as Awkward Sass
She fights crime by ripping apart her enemies reasoning and motivations so brutally they just give up and go home.
“The Aquamenians” is exactly the level of thought any of these DC movies deserve...
At first I was going to correct her on how Zack Snyder made Watchmen but then she said "I hope Zack liked it" and I just died.
I thought she said "saw Watchmen"?
Timothy McLean what
You died?
R.I.P.
Dr. Madd people who only think about correcting others are so annoying smh...
Bitter, angry Jennifer is the best Jennifer. It's like multiple times during this video she was breaking character and quaking with visible frustration at how impossibly shitty this movie was.
Breaking what character?
She immediately gave up pretending to like it about 3 seconds in.
nd4spd Usually her delivery style is deliberately aloof, detatched, understated, dry. That's her "character", so when you see her get visibly frustrated, angry, or amused, it becomes that much funnier because you know it takes a lot to rile her up.
I see. Disagree that there is a 'character'.
nd4spd Well keep in mind that when I say "character", I'm not implying she's being phony or putting on a pretense or whatever. I don't know Jenny, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's like this in real life too. When I say "character", I'm really referring to the overall combination of delivery, tone, and general "vibe" you get from her videos. It's sort of like how your favorite stand-up comedian is, in a sense, playing a "character" when they're onstage, even if the material is a reflection of who they are as a person.
*nd4spd*
Bullshit. The only people who don't have a 'character' are sociopathic CEOs. And by that I mean _every_ CEO. And children, who I like to refer to as "those adorable little sociopaths".
My favourite bad moment from these movies is when superman say he was "just doing good deeds for a ghost" implying he only became superman because that's what he thought his dad wanted when his dad made it VERY clear that he didn't want him to use his powers to help people. But I guess snyder just forgot he wrote the story that way.
Lois Lane: "Hey Superman... sun's gettin' real low..."
i was JUST thinking about that when the Lois part came up
I have the same banana sheets! Love your videos, matching sheets makes me like you even more :)
I bet you Zack Snyder would enjoy Watchmen. I bet he'd be a real big fan of the director.
You don't need this outfit...to be our Wonder Woman
Not all heroes wear tape
Secret Name very underrated comment
I remember seeing this review seven years ago. I will always remember your hysterical quote: "I guess I do bleed! Wocka, wocka!"
LOL Amazing and honest review. "Does the cyborg tech not have brightness settings?" dead
Was excited to see Justice League when I heard the villain was Steppenwolf. Picturing them on stage doing Born To Be Wild and the Justice League shows up to take them out and save the world from 60s music. Total bait and switch.
Goddam the pusher man
the lasso of truth would just give confusing results with all this sarcasm in this analysis.
Dave Dogge I am REVIEWER
Does sarcasm work on the lasso? Cause that's bullshit. If you can be sarcastic then just stay sarcastic.
I would absolutely love it if at one point someone gets wrapped in the lasso and just says the whole truth but in like a scathing sarcastic tone so it's unclear whether they're actually telling the truth or not
All this video needs is a gold skipping rope tied around a DVD copy of JL.
Hearing Jenny call the people of Atlantis "Aquamensians" and "Aquamens" is one of the cutest things I have seen all day that is now what they must be called in all DC media
On it. Aquamens!!
Are you Wonder Woman's kid sister? Is your superpower preparing surfaces before painting?
You make a really solid point in the movie's concern with keeping the powerful Motherboxes apart being completely contradictory to the message of "We are stronger together."
Really? I thought the joke was that the boxes are a metaphor for the individual heroes.
@orangeapples. Agreed. I thought that it was a pretty clever metaphor by Jenny at that.
She was commenting on the fact that the Mother Boxes should be kept apart exactly like ... The Infinity Stones.
She gives it away by mentioning all the different Marvel movies that did moments in JL but did them first.
It was a small critique about the movies plot hole, but a massive critique about the DC universe bringing heroes (without strong foundational cinematic universes) together, even the bad ones that should "stay in the ground", and expecting something good to come of it.
But the boxes are stronger together too, it's just that they're being used by the bad guy.
"Yep! Reckon that's 5 feet deep, that oughta do it!"
-- I'm dissolving into laughter.
"Primitive human weapons."
Uses an axe...
The Bat Man BAD, The Fish Man BAD, The Robot Man BAD, The Fast Man BAD, The Flying Man BAD, The Strong Woman actually pretty good. - A Summary of DC Movies
That Whedon-callout gets you a subscribe, my friend.
Also, your savage sarcasm.
MeanMFA O for the MFA’s soul of expanse! Is that the dull mean, the shabby, the penurious, or the base and cruel?
Louis Apnierg Oh, I've always been a base and cruel kind of girl.
No one is going to explain how Clark Kent is living a simple life. The dude died coincidentally when "Superman" died and came back to life at the same time. NO ONE PUT THAT TWO TOGETHER!!!!
It seems that DC has completely forgotten that their heroes identities are supposed to be secret. Bruce would never allow evidence that he is Batman to float around on the Internet for Cyborg to stumble across.
dude, you're talking about a franchise where literally glasses and a little hair gel safeguards a secret identity.
Well Lois Lane figured out Clark Kent was Superman in 30 minutes, Lex Luther knew as well but Batman the greatest detective ever and is clueless the entire movie....DC makes crap movie
Yeah, but Clark wears glasses.
Are you surprised? It's DC. Dumb Content
"What is this movie about?"
Nothing. it's about limping to the finish line with only one good limb (Wonder Woman) and realizing that one good part really doesn't need all this dead weight to thrive.
For the reshoots they had to CG Henry Cavill's upper lip in order to make him smile.
Conal Cohcran I thought it was for the contractually obligatory mustache they had to cg off
sam J
'Twas a joke, MY MAN. Get it? A joke? What's with brunch? I TAKE IT BACK, I WANNA DIE. Lol exdee
SOMETHING'S DEFINITELY BLEEDING. TELL ME... DO YOU BLEED?
*Was* his face in CG for the bulk of this movie? My husband and I kept looking at his face and something just seemed...off. We couldn't put our finger on it. It seemed fake.
Holy cow that's actually a huge relief. It was bothering us so much while we were watching, but we had no idea why they would need to actually do anything to his face. I didn't know he was actually sporting a gloriously thick 'stache he couldn't get rid of. I don't even wanna know how much money was wasted lol.
i've heard a lot of mixed reviews about this film, but this was just the most brutal take down i've heard. i'm sure screen junkies pays better but i'd love to see a crossover with you red letter media.
I won't see the movie, but I still was looking forward to seeing your review.
If you don't watch the movie then please do not have an opinion of it...
I'm not saying you do already good or bad, I'm just asking you to not have an opinion if you don't watch it...you have no "right"...
frehleyisgod uhhh...is this guy serious?
frehleyisgod hahaha wtf you talking about
@@frehleyisgod One can form an opinion of something from hearsay and reviews. Whether or not that opinion is correctly informed only concerns the person who has the opinion. It is not your concern. Do not concern yourself with other people's opinions if they don't immediately affect you.
Justice League would have been better if their costumes had been fashioned out of painters tape imo.
Jenny used painter's tape as a reference to WB using tape to try and piece together their disheveled mess of a movie.
thetramp123 looks as good as the costume did in BVS.
you didn't touch on henry cavill's cgi shaved upper lip in certain scenes
I actually didn't notice it at all, which either means they succeeded or I'm just jaded to Henry Cavill's face looking subtly inhuman
It's like you said, the Invisible Woman wig of this movie.
Wait, so they really DID have to CGI his upper lip to smile? X3
Tbh I didn't even notice it either......Even so, it's not a big deal......
Red Letter Media talks about it.
This girl... She gets it.
You are gross.
Wow. By "gets" I meant "understands". Damn.
Unless you were replying to the other comment. If so, I apologize. I find Jenny's posts very intelligent and amusing. If people misinterpret my initial comment, I'll delete it.
Kevin W. Eaches Yeah, I was replying to the other guy. Your comment was fine. Don't know why the respond-button is acting up for me, but in either case, I'm sorry for the confusion.
rick mcmillan Yeah, you really are.
9:19 "Just carrying some humans in my human container." LMAO
Throwing shade at Joss Whedon...nice!
I’d be bothered, except I’ve always felt Joss Whedon was massively overrated..
Either way, Justice League looks total balls. I just watched Last Jedi a seventh time instead. Made me happy. :)
WB are to blame for justice league sucking, not joss whedon. They did not give him any creative freedom so what you see on screen was Warner bros screwing the movie up.
Joss Whedon doesn't deserve shade. He tried to turn Snyder's shit pile into gold.....like alchemy.....an impossible mission.
Should've been Snyder she threw some shade at.
Joss Whedon does deserve shade (from lifelong fans like me , as well as everyone else) but not for this particular garbage-fire. This smells of DCEU executive nonsense, and it's really ruining my life right now. So stanky.
that joss whedon joke was fucking savage i love it
Seriously, that motherbox analogy at the end is the most brilliant examination of the DCFU out of all of the DCFU criticism online. I'm honestly mindblown.
Almost five years later and "it's just my face" still just fucking kills me
Followed by that „stupid sidekick“-giggle
Her sense of humor is great
"The Aquamanians" would love for that to be a real race now.
"you're gonna cheat on your movie like you cheat on your wife" HOLY SHIT
"it's like when you take a spider outside... in a tupperware.." lmfao
Lol at the Joss Wheden line. Hilarious.
am i the only one who noticed how weird ezra miller runs
Yeah... He had lightning bolts streaking off of him or something, and they pasted him into the CGI environments so that he looks like he's traveling too fast... Weird.
I’m pretty sure it was a reference to the ice skating thing he said earlier in the movie
Enchanted Little Me he ran like a 5yr old girl and thats putting it in a good way. i hated his character, i find him too over the top and annoying
No he runs so wierd
No lots of people have brought up the fact they've got someone who doesnt know how to run properly play the flash 😂😂😂
"I laughed out loud at a couple of his lines"
That was me in theaters during Suicide Squad when Harley Quinn said you hurt MY FRIIIIENDS!!!!
Powerful boxes? Oh, you mean infinity stones.
No the Infinity Stones are powerful marbles
Important distinction, very different.
the elements of harmony?
Special Rocks
Yeah they took the truly cool Mother Box concept and dumbed it down into Marvels bad ripoff of the emotional spectrum of the Power Lanterns.
Best review of Justice League I've seen and most entertaining. You should think about doing stand up comedy. Something was needed to lighten up the tragedy of this disaster.
I love when you mimic your thoughts during a movie it's hilarious. And your videos are always so funny. "Just carrying some humans in my human container" 😂😂😂
Please make an audio book, you voice is so calming 😂
8:21 Oof, that's a good point. Considering how supposedly important Superman's mom was to him in the previous movie, (save Martha!) it's kind of sad that he just... doesn't care about her now.
The boxes speech was too fucking good. Love you Jenny!
Wait, so...a super powerful alien comes to earth to find a magic box, and a collection of superpowered people have to learn to work together as a team to stop him?
GEE I WONDER WHERE WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE
Pokerface exactly. But if this movie had come first ten years ago we would has really been blown away.
Travis Hightower 10 years ago we would have just gotten X3 and Spiderman 3 so that's not a high bar to cross
Nunya Bidness They didn't have to do that particular story. They have plenty of stories to choose from to have as their starting point. I personally think it would've been really cool if they each had gotten a solo film and in JL, the villians from each movie came together to form a group reminiscent of the Light from Young Justice. That way, it's original, it would flesh out all the characters (including the villians, which Marvel has really only done for Loki and the Vulture) really well, and each member of the JL would've had a really good reason for being there.
that's exactly what I had in mind for JL
The origin of the JL in the comics is them forming to deal with an alien invasion. It is trying to be true to the comics, tho it wan'st Steppin wolf. But htey wanted to have alead in to a larger menace which is Darkseid. It is actually the Avengers who more or less took the JL's origin and copied it. The Avengers did coem together to deal with Loki but there was no aliens in volved in their origin.
I got really confused when you started mentioning Watchmen until you added "I hope Zach liked it". Okay now you're just being mean xD But it was hilarious.
I mean this whole thing was super funny, I lost it at the box's exploration of the themes contradictions and DCEU in general. That was so good, I'll definitely watch more.
I made an undignified noise at your Joss Whedon cheating-on-his-wife dig. Great stuff!
From your description it sounds like a Michael Bay movie...
so she did good huh
Her dead pan humor is funny but brutal, crushing critiques of shitty movies in the same dead pan voice is fucking hilarious.
Her voice is so monotone it makes the video so much better. I laughed so much 😂
Calling out Joss Whedon long before it was cool, nice!! That final metaphor made he so happy!
OMG i had the same reaction the the flash wonder woman boob thing. i was like "this was for sure a whedon insert. dude is self cannibalizing his old movies now. laaaazy"
Love the lowkey humour in her videos
it's a shame so many people missed the humor in the last video.
Deadpan humor
"are you gonna cheat on your movies like you cheat on your wife"
yeah so subtle and lowkey, hard to tell when she's joking sometimes
Edoc Sil exactly what I was gonna say
Right from the first second: "So, I saw Justice League. I actually liked it. I was pleasantly surprised-*I'M JUST KIDDING.* "
7:04 This is about when I nearly spit my drink out on the screen laughing.