Top Golf might be the most honest company about equipment out there. Saying "less hard" is ensuring the game is still in fact hard. Whoever wrote that definitely plays golf for real
this is brilliant , instead of expecting that everyone plays like a pro , make it easier and accessible for anyone to play , have fun and get more people to be on the greens. Everybody wins. Good video as usual
I agree 1000%. If there was a club to hand my wife, who HATES golf with a passion, and she could somewhat hit it straight and get that crispy feel of a solid shot, I think you'd get more people roped into the game to put more time into it, and enjoy it more. I think companies would greatly benefit from this.
Yes, this! My wife just began lessons 4 weeks ago. She onnly has time for the hour lesson, plus maybe an hour in addition to that weekly. She'll never be on the PGA, but simply wants to get good enough to join my 20hcp round.
My entire strategy this year was to make golf as easy as possible on myself. I'm 40, been playing since high school. I went full old man bag. 4 wood, hybrids, hollow-bodied irons, everything graphite. I'm still terrible.
Quite enticing. As an average golfer struggling to break 90 who doesn’t have much time to play golf because life, I want to enjoy the game more than I want to look for my balls in the bush from the tee. Thanks to your videos I already got the Chipr and if they commercialize this I’ll sure consider it. I can’t struggle in the office and on the course all the time.
Hi Rick, great video mate, as are all your videos. I am a 75-year-old golfer, and I have struggled for years with hitting a big-headed driver, but I can hit a TM stealth2 3, wood to great success. I'm 6ft 5in, and I think it's the longer shaft of the driver that I find difficult to cope with. I’m thinking of getting a mini-driver to help with my driving, but since I watched your latest video, I think the top golf driver is exactly the club I'm looking for, as it has a shorter shaft and plenty of loft, to help me get more accuracy and maybe a bit more distance than a 3-wood. Let's hope club manufacturers take up your plea for this driver to become generally available for people like myself. Cheers Pal
Totally agree, I cannot hit a 460cc driver. Recently went back to my 20 year old Titleist 905T driver and skelping it down the fairway. It's a 400cc so 100% sure it's an address thing, it just feels...off when I stand over it. But golf is so much about confidence. Also considering a Mini Driver, but my 3-wood is a 14 degree so want to check if the distance is significant enough.
i have an old Orlimar Trimetal that I always hit just over 200yds carry and straight, the head is about the size of a 3 wood. I too hate the look of a big head driver and try too hard to hit it rather than slow swing it.
PXG made a 0211Z for senior golfers, 16 degree loft and 44” shaft. Picked one up on eBay and it’s the ultimate fairway finder when my Great Big Bertha is misbehaving
@@cs_stratswithease just get a wilson womens driver and re-shaft it with a shaft of your choice they make them up to 14degree and the new dynapower drivers have adjustable hosels you can loft it up to 16 degree. You can find the D9, launchpad, and D7 drivers pretty cheap
Tour Edge made 16 degree drivers about 15 years ago. I don't know if they still do. Also, my Callaway driver can be lofted up to 15.5 degrees. I've been playing my drivers at 43.5" for years. This Top Golf driver sounds like a giant headed 5 wood.
I'm a decent golfer (~8hcp) but I really don't understand the stigma of "non-conforming" clubs for people who will never play competitively. People need to let go of their ego and just go and have fun even if that means buying all non-conforming clubs which will likely make the game easier.
@@tag_76 you say you play off 8, so you do play competitive golf? And you must use conforming equipment, follow the rules no matter how stupid they seem etc. There's a guy at my club off +2 and a guy off 41. They both enter comps, someone else signs their card, I have in the past signed both their cards and they've signed mine (I'm somewhere in between in score), it enters the system and they (and I) play competitive golf. If you just hit the ball round and no one validates your score, you don't have a handicap.
@@fontyyy I play golf because I enjoy it. I don't play competitively, just 18 holes when I get the time and yes, every club in my bag is conforming. It's a great game and can be very difficult for a lot of people. The only point I was trying to make is, if you like/love golf and have no plans at all of play in competition(s), play any club; whether conforming or not, and just enjoy your time on the course.
@samuraichicken9248 Your missing the point. If u play with anyone you are technically competing therefore to not follow the rules is to cheat since others are under the perception they can't use the equipment. The rules are the rules. They'd have to change them first.
I was struggling to hit enough fairways with my Cobra driver. Picked up the new Cleveland 3+ HyWood. It is 17 degrees and finds so many fairways. Easy to hit and it is long. Gladly giving up 10-15 yards to be in the fairway. Please give it a review, I think you will find just as many fairways and much more distance than the Can’t Miss club. Plus, it frees up two or three spots in your bag because it can replace your driver, 3 or 5 wood and it can also be a replacement for a hybrid.
I have a cobra amp driver 12 years old, bought the same 3 & 5 wood to match ! FairwY finder on draw settings .. I won’t replace for modern technology to gain 10 yards missing ! Just bought custom fit irons this year that make such a difference though
Everyone that you've ever seen claim that they hit it out of the back of a topgolf net is a liar, with the exception of maybe Kyle Berkshire and a few other long drive professionals.
@@hotfiyah that’s what I’m saying. It’s an absolutely absurd distance that you need to reach to hit it past the net. It’s almost harder to do that than getting a hole-in-one on par three I just
TBF, on a golf course, if you can hit it 180 yards straight, every time, from the normal tees, that's good enough. Most, like over 75% of amateurs would (should) settle for that.
I think you can pretty easily build something similar. Just get a forgiving head like a ping max club in the highest loft available, get a short hybrid shaft with the correct adapter and set the sleeve to the maximum loft. Boom, almost as forgiving and more distance because you're looking at like 13-15° instead of 20°.
I have got a senior flex PXG 0211 and I got the shaft 1.5 inches shorter. The loft is set at 12 degrees. Same outcome. I get about 190 out of it but it goes somewhere near where I wanted it to. Cost me £180 quid. Absolute steal for me. I can get 220 maybe out of my ping but it is anyones guess where the ball is going and I find it harder to control. I wouldn't go 20 degrees. I would only get 150 yards out of that thing. Rick only gets 200 so it would be a huge loss for me. my 5 goes 150 anyway. 12 degrees is the maximum I would go without a huge loss of distance
Top Golf has a Problem, a problem with Golf Balls leaving the designated area. This has lead to liability, Property Damage and fines. So they decided to Design a Club with Double the Loft so all the energy goes Vertically and not Horizontally. They also made it feel great and easy to hit the Ball! Then they Market it as a "Sure Thing" so everyone gets behind the idea! Because let's be Honest if it was Marketed as "The club to keep balls inside of the fence, literally no one would even pick it up to swing it!! Great Video!!
I really love it when you show us amateurs different options. I know you’re a good golfer, but a lot of us are high and mid handicappers and your videos sure do help us and are very entertaining! Thanks, Rick!
This is why I rebuilt my driver setup.. I sold my lower lofted driver in exchange for a 12 degree Aerojet Max so it has the draw bias to help me keep it straight, draw or baby fade depending on swing path. I also trimmed down a light weight shaft to around 44 inches and after dialing it in with some weight adjustments the thing is a 250 yard fairway finder averaging around 70% with my misses rolling (or getting a bad kick) to the first cut typically. On very rare occasions I may pull a shot left or slice, but usually they are still in play.
It's a giant 7-wood (Heavenwood) which makes sense since it's a great club to have in the bag. Take a forgiving fairway wood, make it huge, and you have this bundle of joy. They should sell it because I would buy it. How does this thing operate "off the deck".. I'd be curious.
No shade here, but if your ball striking is such that this club would help you, then it's not good enough to hit this off the deck with any consistency. Any wood off the deck is a higher skill shot, and the face on this isn't as conducive as a 3 or 5 wood. Honestly, for the distance you get, a hybrid would be much easier to hit.
A 20° degree fairway is more like a 5 wood not a 7 wood. At 22° it's a 7 wood. Distance wise a 20° is more like a 2/3 iron distance only flying higher and the 22° is more like 4/5 iron
Great video as always Rick and I completely agree with making equipment easier for novice players or people with disabilities so that golf can be accessible to more people. I can not hit driver and have been playing for about 1 year, therefore as you don't need the club I will happily look after it for you ;)
As someone that wan't to go out here and there, it needs something like this. I don't have the time or money to really get out and play and practice to get consistent. Something like this would allow people new to golf get out on the course and play all while not slowing play. That's my biggest thing when playing is being worried about the pace of play when I need to fetch a ball from the rough....trees...bush..you get me.
But it goes only 200 yards. You can hit that with a driver with slowing the speed down and you will get more accuracy. But if you for 200 yards 5 wood is much better.
Great Video Rick! I know quite a few people that I'd like to get into golf that are just disheartened by the learning curve. If this would help people like them (and to be honest me at times) there are no downsides.
100% agree. Golf should be made easier for average golfer. Let them make the choice with how much help they want from equipment. Will make the game fun for all
Golf got a lot more fun when I kinda just cheated a bit and not really went for what pros do. Beginner tee box, forgiving clubs. If I shank a shot why not pick up my ball and put it on the green instead of the rough. Makes play faster and more enjoyable. I ain’t tryna be a pro here
@@Dennis4523 seriously. As long as you aren’t playing for money or holding up groups, you should play exactly how you want to. It’s your money for 99% of golfers the most important part should be you had fun.
@@peanut632 don’t get me wrong I found it really rewarding to fix my slice, see the improvement on reading greens and hitting my irons consistently. But if I shank the ball into the woods. I’m just gonna plop down another ball and disregard that shot. Or if I overshoot the hole and go far into the rough. Taking a few swings to learn the ammount of force needed before taking a shot ain’t so bad. Sure it’s not playing by the rules, but it has made me better and the ammount of “let me try that again that one didn’t count” shots have gone down to none
I take my own clubs to Top Golf but last night I tried this club out of curiosity. It sounded like I was hitting with a planters peanut can. Perhaps this was partly due to Top Golf's 'engineered to not go far' balls. I think, though, it's a worthy addition for the abundance of non-golfers who go there. Another fun review, Rick!
I just get back from Top Golf and saw this driver! I did notice that the loft on this is bizarre but have no idea that it goes up to 20 degrees! The impact feels weird for driver. Not that excited to use, however, it is a fun driver and really does what it said.
For us average golfers, most lost balls and penalty shots (and destroyed scores) come from missed tee shots. imagine having a club like this that should be a lot easier to hit from tee than a fairwaywood. The only reason I can come up with why no brand has made a club like this, is because selling golf balls is great business.
Completely agree man! Especially with the price of some golf balls nowadays. Depending what you play once you buy a couple dozens you’re the same price as a lower end or older model driver. These companies know what they’re doing. Lol
Unfortunately this type of club doesn't conform to the rules of golf. The major golf companies wouldn't view it as a big seller for that reason and many more.
For adequate golfers, yes. But for someone new to the sport or playing 5 rounds per year with their mates? Someone who goes to the course for fun and company? A driver like this would be fantastic.
The challenge is what makes golf aggravating and somewhat disappointing! Hanging out with friends and those few shots in a round that are "perfect" are what make golf fun!! This club might give you a couple of those few shots!✌️
I thinks it's Def great for a beginner like me! Because it is so extremely hard and the small wins is what makes a giant difference, the first center club hit in rhe air is what keeps you wanting to make that happen, looking at this I could see lots of people benefiting from this club. Ty for sharing and Godbless
Likely the clubhead; regulations state that 460 cc is the maximum possible size, and Rick mentioned early in the video that it looked "massive". The club being shorter shouldn't be an issue, though most drivers are between 44-46" (but can't be longer than 46").
I have been a Topgolf two times. With the amount of people who try to hit it over the net, it did not take me long to suspect that the drivers were designed to not go that far. Same thing with the balls. Topgolf is fun, but it’s not golf. It looks like golf and sounds like golf but it’s closer to bowling than it is golf. In my opinion.
Yup, but it’s a great entry point to golf. I golfed when I was a kid but fell off when I was a teenager. Went a couple years ago with a buddy and now golfing is one of my favorite hobbies again. I’ve taken friends to topgolf and a few of them have joined me at the range and even the course afterwards.
Hit Top Golf this past weekend, and sure enough, they had them. Pretty cool concept, especially for a facility like TG. I didn't try to hit it, but my wife (doesn't play golf), did and she had a great time and want to get one and go out with me and my sons out to the course...
They stayed in the fairway coz they're landing 70 yards shorter than his normal driver. Add 70 yards to nearly all the shots he hit on the course and they're gonna make friends with foliage...
Well you cant call it a hook since they do start a decent amount in right direction and they curved back into fairway most of them. But also you cant call that a true draw. He should have said a bit of a hookey one lol
@@outlander234 you absolutely can call it a hook. A hook doesn’t have to be a ball that goes OB. You can hook one into the fairway. 10-20 yards of curve is considered a hook. It’s about the shape of a “hook.” A draw is under 10 yard shot shape.
I totally agree wit Rick.on this club as that it should be introduced etc. I used this during a few games this week for the first time mixed in with using a standard driver towards the end very good training tool
I've always struggled a bit with driver and it ended up frustrating me so much I bought a Cleveland 3+ Hy-Wood. It's a bit like the TG club, shorter shaft (3 wood length) but a larger head a bit deeper but wide. It's completely transformed my game. I now hit 200 yards and usually a slight draw, sometimes it pierces the air like a rocket. Sometimes it's a bit too high but never a duck hook or wild slice. I've lost 30 yards but I'm not in the trees or OB anything like as much. Anyone struggling or feeling like they would like an easy club that goes 200 yards relatively straight I recommend checking out the Cleveland Hywood.
@@101wildgooseare you trying to say a club that goes straight 200 yards no matter what the skill level wouldn’t sell? You are wrong they would sell and get people instantly hooked why you think top golf is so big?
@@101wildgoose the average drive of an average golfer is just 215, beginners are less than 200. This club would be great for a beginner… and it wouldn’t sell because the public has been convinced distance is king.
I agree with you Rick. The people who want to get good at golf can always use regular clubs to get better and hone their skills. But there should be an option to make golf easy. A lot of people don't golf just because of how hard it is which is a shame because it is a great activity that gets you outside and it is something you can do with friends and family.
I played TopGolf about 3 weeks after starting Golf and thought i'd cracked it with the driver; now i'm back to it being the only swing keeping me from being comfortable on a course :). make it legal!
Couldn’t agree more. Got my 18yr old 12• driver out today, hit 5 from 7 fairways. Maybe not the 245m I wanted but 215-230 and got the ball in play. (What I did after that using my 15yr old hybrids and Adam’s idea GT2 undercut irons is a completely different question 😂 never drew the ball so far left in my life).
I disagree. Also this thing goes 200 yards with Rick giving it a good whack. Its easier to hit a driver 200 yards by slowing the swing down. Even 5 wood is easier. I am afraid this was paid advertisment.
You reviewed the Teton driving hybrid, which you liked. That same company has several high lofted easy to hit drivers like this. I use their sprinter driver, while only 13 degrees of loft, it has many of the same features as this Top Golf driver. And people might ask who is Teton, and they are basically Nike Golf, just without Nike. And they make very high quality clubs aimed at amateurs.
As a kid I played with a seven iron in a field out my backyard shooting at 3 sewar caps. A good club to learn to address and hit the ball without much concern. Good to not have to battle the clubs as you get comfortable hitting a golf ball.
Completely agree with this, however for someone that wants to play golf recreationally, what is the problem with that? If they like it and enjoy it they either carry on using this club, or they get a “normal” club?
@@kieranwilliams8215 No, I get it. I think the club is awesome for the right setting. I'm not a "get off my lawn guy, haha." I'm teaching my two daughters (13 and 8) how to play. When we go to the range and they hit a good shot (after several, several bad ones) it's worth more than hitting 80% of fairways with a cheater club. They see me hitting more good shots than bad, and they are realizing the only way for them to do that too is by putting down the tablets and coming with me when I invite them. They're doing it more and more, and they're improving. My comment was about making golf "easier" rather than about the club. Golf will never be easy, haha.
Except the market for a club like this is people who are very busy or lower income and can only get out to play a few times a year during warm season. Most people in the bottom 80% of income fall into this category. It’s expensive and time consuming to play, so people working multiple jobs to make ends meet, and people who don’t make much money, don’t have the time or disposable income to go golfing regularly, so they could practice at the range the 3 to 5 times a year they have available, or they could actually play and have assistive technology like this that makes it more fun. The legality of a club is for competitive purposes, not for amateur fun.
You might recall a nox set of clubs that decathlon had a few years ago. Inesis 100. The driver in the set had 14deg loft and a shorter shaft The set was about £159 a few years ago
i think making golf easier like this is a great idea. it gives beginners the option for easier to hit clubs, at the sacrifice of things like distance and control. as you get better, you might start swapping out these easy to hit clubs in favor for something that will go further, be more versatile, etc. it creates an easier starting point to people who maybe aren't as interested in becoming an amazing golfer, but are more interested in just getting into the sport as a pastime.
I got a chance to use it. I really liked it. Normally i cant hit a driver without a slice.... Im still new to golf but i used this and it worked really well. I stepped back to a driver and i played a lot better than normally.
Nice one Rick I agree doesn’t need to be for experienced golfers but as a starter or like me has a love hate relationship with the driver, (mostly hate) lol, this would be great. I also think that more 9 hole courses would make it more accessible to people.
Your last sentence summed up my entire thoughts. Get more people into golf. That's what it should always be about. I always hear about the Tour doing this and that to get more kids in, but damn only if your parents are loaded. Make cheaper clubs easier to hit and tough. Then if people want to progress, they can. We need more people into this sport.
Hey you should look up the "perfect driver" from years ago , 5 wood length , slightly smaller head with I think 11.5 degree loft . , easy to hit as well .
Back in the 80s there was a fashion for 1 1/2 woods. Never had one but I think they were basically driver sized heads with more loft and shorter shafts. Ie, bit less distance but make it easier to hit. Same idea really, taken to more of an extreme. I play occasionally with 80s woods, more often with late 90s bubble shaft woods, all Taylormade - but I did take 1" off the shafts on all the bubble shaft woods, makes me much more consistent.
This would be a great driver for senior golfers. As a senior golfer myself I could certainly use a driver like this. I hit my present driver a bit over 200 yards, but don't always find the fairway.
I would definitely be in the market for an "80% fairways at 200 yards" club. Could still carry a regular driver for holes where you want to "go for it", but this puts you in a good position on so many holes.
Great idea. My wife and I go to Top Golf every once and a while and she would really like that. She's not much for golf, but she enjoys playing there, this would just help out an extra bit.
Since I started using a 12 deg driver my driving has been more controllable and in fact my distance in better than with my 10.5 degree....I've also fitted an Aldila 40 gram ladies flex shaft
Simmons golf used to make the great white brand which had shorter shafts and higher lofts. They were very easy to hit.I still have a 2 iron, only as long as a 5 but slightly heavier head. Guaranteed 200+ yards and straight every time. And as easy to hit as a regular 5 iron.
Long ago I learned that Camilo Villegas would choke down on his drivers. I started doing it as well and it really improved my drive. .. I would absolutely use this driver.
The one club I never put in my bag is the driver, because it's the one club that spoils my day. I can hit irons well. You are right Rick, a club like this would keep new/average golfers coming back to the course if you could put one in the bag. Maybe you should get one manufactured and sell it Rick?
Why arent clubs like this popular? Because other golfers shame them. This club reminds me of my 13 degree Wilson Staff Launch Pad 2 driver. I don't hit it as far as my old driver, but I hit a lot more fairways. Everyone told me not to get it. I did anyways, and now they are impressed with the club.
My son and I both are horrible slicers Went to top golf in Dallas played a quick hour Had some cold beers and great pretzels at top golf and each hit the sure shot straight stick We each hit 25 balls in competition Of total 50 swings ,,,,,,,,,,only 1 slice We both loved the club I’d buy it if available The club is a little shorter than their average driver But for better enjoyment for amateurs just shooting at the holes at Top Golf Genius idea , ,,,you play better you come back more fun often WELL DONE TOP GOLF
Check out junior clubs which are basically the same as these .. and as far as I am aware legal - MK pro clubs my son uses are super easy to hit .. shorter, more loft , large head etc
Im not new to golf, been playing over a decade, but i hate driver, didnt hit one for 5+ years, this would make me enjoy that part of the game a lot more
A couple of things 1. Even if they made one with, say, a 15° loft, it would still be easier to hit than a regular driver. 2. With that loft (15° or 20°), your average weekend (18 hcp) golfer would probably use this off the deck for their second shot on Par 5s and long par 4s.
If the loft was 16-18° the club would hit longer than it does, straight shots are good but when they are 80 meters shorter than you typically hit you aren't shaving strokes off your game!
Hi Rick, i honestly believe that a player of your ability should not really test this club, why you have a good swing, high swing speed, accurate ball striking etc, etc, If your ball travels 200 yds, then you should hit a 5 or 6 iron, pretty easy for you. An amatuer golfer should really test this club, a person who, has a slower swing speed, swing out to in or in to out. attacks the ball too steeply. strikes the ball all over the face, etc, etc. This might show if the club actually 'goes straight' or not. would demonstrate how far the ball travels. just my take on things. what do you think?
3 wood off the tee maybe. Get one that can be adjustable and crank up the loft. My driver is a Cobra Aerojet 12 degrees with a 45 inch shaft. Total fairway finder.
I was at top golf last week and hit with it. It’s ridiculously easy to hit. My neighbor has never played before and he would hit it straight. It’s wild
Top Golf: You must return your driver.
Me: What driver?
Top Golf might be the most honest company about equipment out there. Saying "less hard" is ensuring the game is still in fact hard. Whoever wrote that definitely plays golf for real
I wanted to comment exactly the same. It will remain hard.
those were my exact thoughts! 👍
Top Golf is owned by Callaway.
considering Topgolf is a Callaway brand, I'd say they know golf.
this is brilliant , instead of expecting that everyone plays like a pro , make it easier and accessible for anyone to play , have fun and get more people to be on the greens. Everybody wins. Good video as usual
I agree 1000%. If there was a club to hand my wife, who HATES golf with a passion, and she could somewhat hit it straight and get that crispy feel of a solid shot, I think you'd get more people roped into the game to put more time into it, and enjoy it more. I think companies would greatly benefit from this.
Yes, this! My wife just began lessons 4 weeks ago. She onnly has time for the hour lesson, plus maybe an hour in addition to that weekly. She'll never be on the PGA, but simply wants to get good enough to join my 20hcp round.
My entire strategy this year was to make golf as easy as possible on myself. I'm 40, been playing since high school.
I went full old man bag. 4 wood, hybrids, hollow-bodied irons, everything graphite.
I'm still terrible.
I guess you need to now go the other direction and get young man’s clubs 😂
Clubs can't fix a bad swing. Invest a bags worth of clubs type money in lessons. But, I am the same😂
you are not alone
Well I for one refuse to think of hollow body irons as old man irons😂
I'm 50.. and feel the same
I bet Rick can make it hook into the trees.
Rofl
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I definitely made it hook at top golf last month… but I wasn’t slicing
No, it's called a big pull.
That was mean.
Quite enticing. As an average golfer struggling to break 90 who doesn’t have much time to play golf because life, I want to enjoy the game more than I want to look for my balls in the bush from the tee. Thanks to your videos I already got the Chipr and if they commercialize this I’ll sure consider it. I can’t struggle in the office and on the course all the time.
So basically, it is as if someone made a 7 wood into a driver.
Came to comment just this
Yep. It’s a bigger headed 7 wood
Beat me to it.
This is why I go to the 3 or 7W when the driver isn't working.
Good description!
Hi Rick, great video mate, as are all your videos. I am a 75-year-old golfer, and I have struggled for years with hitting a big-headed driver, but I can hit a TM stealth2 3, wood to great success. I'm 6ft 5in, and I think it's the longer shaft of the driver that I find difficult to cope with. I’m thinking of getting a mini-driver to help with my driving, but since I watched your latest video, I think the top golf driver is exactly the club I'm looking for, as it has a shorter shaft and plenty of loft, to help me get more accuracy and maybe a bit more distance than a 3-wood. Let's hope club manufacturers take up your plea for this driver to become generally available for people like myself.
Cheers Pal
Totally agree, I cannot hit a 460cc driver. Recently went back to my 20 year old Titleist 905T driver and skelping it down the fairway. It's a 400cc so 100% sure it's an address thing, it just feels...off when I stand over it. But golf is so much about confidence. Also considering a Mini Driver, but my 3-wood is a 14 degree so want to check if the distance is significant enough.
i have an old Orlimar Trimetal that I always hit just over 200yds carry and straight, the head is about the size of a 3 wood. I too hate the look of a big head driver and try too hard to hit it rather than slow swing it.
PXG made a 0211Z for senior golfers, 16 degree loft and 44” shaft.
Picked one up on eBay and it’s the ultimate fairway finder when my Great Big Bertha is misbehaving
I want this one - doesn't seem like they are sold anymore though.
@@cs_stratswithease just get a wilson womens driver and re-shaft it with a shaft of your choice they make them up to 14degree and the new dynapower drivers have adjustable hosels you can loft it up to 16 degree. You can find the D9, launchpad, and D7 drivers pretty cheap
i found it on ebay....listed as a ladys driver....purrfect.
Tour Edge made 16 degree drivers about 15 years ago. I don't know if they still do. Also, my Callaway driver can be lofted up to 15.5 degrees.
I've been playing my drivers at 43.5" for years. This Top Golf driver sounds like a giant headed 5 wood.
but why dont you just use a 5 wood?......... your a muppet buying that crap
I'm a decent golfer (~8hcp) but I really don't understand the stigma of "non-conforming" clubs for people who will never play competitively. People need to let go of their ego and just go and have fun even if that means buying all non-conforming clubs which will likely make the game easier.
@@tag_76 you say you play off 8, so you do play competitive golf? And you must use conforming equipment, follow the rules no matter how stupid they seem etc.
There's a guy at my club off +2 and a guy off 41. They both enter comps, someone else signs their card, I have in the past signed both their cards and they've signed mine (I'm somewhere in between in score), it enters the system and they (and I) play competitive golf.
If you just hit the ball round and no one validates your score, you don't have a handicap.
Did you miss the point of his comment? He said if you DON'T play competitively, you should use whatever clubs you like that give you an advantage.
The only thing I think should count as non conforming is something that makes you hit it 20+ yards further
@@fontyyy I play golf because I enjoy it. I don't play competitively, just 18 holes when I get the time and yes, every club in my bag is conforming. It's a great game and can be very difficult for a lot of people. The only point I was trying to make is, if you like/love golf and have no plans at all of play in competition(s), play any club; whether conforming or not, and just enjoy your time on the course.
@samuraichicken9248 Your missing the point. If u play with anyone you are technically competing therefore to not follow the rules is to cheat since others are under the perception they can't use the equipment. The rules are the rules. They'd have to change them first.
I was struggling to hit enough fairways with my Cobra driver. Picked up the new Cleveland 3+ HyWood. It is 17 degrees and finds so many fairways. Easy to hit and it is long. Gladly giving up 10-15 yards to be in the fairway. Please give it a review, I think you will find just as many fairways and much more distance than the Can’t Miss club. Plus, it frees up two or three spots in your bag because it can replace your driver, 3 or 5 wood and it can also be a replacement for a hybrid.
I have a cobra amp driver 12 years old, bought the same 3 & 5 wood to match !
FairwY finder on draw settings ..
I won’t replace for modern technology to gain 10 yards missing !
Just bought custom fit irons this year that make such a difference though
Just read your comment mate after I posted the exact same thing! They are awesome clubs aren't they
Feels like this is designed to keep balls from going past the net
in order to hit a ball on top golf out the net you need to hit it like 300 yards and over the net
Everyone that you've ever seen claim that they hit it out of the back of a topgolf net is a liar, with the exception of maybe Kyle Berkshire and a few other long drive professionals.
@@hotfiyah that’s what I’m saying. It’s an absolutely absurd distance that you need to reach to hit it past the net. It’s almost harder to do that than getting a hole-in-one on par three I just
@@hotfiyah I suggest you search "Mike Trout top golf"
TBF, on a golf course, if you can hit it 180 yards straight, every time, from the normal tees, that's good enough.
Most, like over 75% of amateurs would (should) settle for that.
I think you can pretty easily build something similar. Just get a forgiving head like a ping max club in the highest loft available, get a short hybrid shaft with the correct adapter and set the sleeve to the maximum loft. Boom, almost as forgiving and more distance because you're looking at like 13-15° instead of 20°.
I have got a senior flex PXG 0211 and I got the shaft 1.5 inches shorter. The loft is set at 12 degrees. Same outcome. I get about 190 out of it but it goes somewhere near where I wanted it to. Cost me £180 quid. Absolute steal for me. I can get 220 maybe out of my ping but it is anyones guess where the ball is going and I find it harder to control. I wouldn't go 20 degrees. I would only get 150 yards out of that thing. Rick only gets 200 so it would be a huge loss for me. my 5 goes 150 anyway. 12 degrees is the maximum I would go without a huge loss of distance
Top Golf has a Problem, a problem with Golf Balls leaving the designated area. This has lead to liability, Property Damage and fines.
So they decided to Design a Club with Double the Loft so all the energy goes Vertically and not Horizontally.
They also made it feel great and easy to hit the Ball!
Then they Market it as a "Sure Thing" so everyone gets behind the idea!
Because let's be Honest if it was Marketed as "The club to keep balls inside of the fence, literally no one would even pick it up to swing it!! Great Video!!
I just tried this club over the weekend and I said I'd love to see a review on it! Perfect timing, Rick! Great video as always!
Sounds like a creative marketing opportunity for Mr. Shiels. Call it "The Big Hit". Add a putter, call it "The Sauce". ⛳👍🏻😉
Plus a never Miss Wedge!! 😂
I really love it when you show us amateurs different options. I know you’re a good golfer, but a lot of us are high and mid handicappers and your videos sure do help us and are very entertaining! Thanks, Rick!
4:03 video starts
This is why I rebuilt my driver setup.. I sold my lower lofted driver in exchange for a 12 degree Aerojet Max so it has the draw bias to help me keep it straight, draw or baby fade depending on swing path. I also trimmed down a light weight shaft to around 44 inches and after dialing it in with some weight adjustments the thing is a 250 yard fairway finder averaging around 70% with my misses rolling (or getting a bad kick) to the first cut typically. On very rare occasions I may pull a shot left or slice, but usually they are still in play.
It's a giant 7-wood (Heavenwood) which makes sense since it's a great club to have in the bag. Take a forgiving fairway wood, make it huge, and you have this bundle of joy. They should sell it because I would buy it.
How does this thing operate "off the deck".. I'd be curious.
No shade here, but if your ball striking is such that this club would help you, then it's not good enough to hit this off the deck with any consistency. Any wood off the deck is a higher skill shot, and the face on this isn't as conducive as a 3 or 5 wood. Honestly, for the distance you get, a hybrid would be much easier to hit.
@@garyco766 No shade taken. Just curious. I was hoping he'd try it once in the video. :)
A 20° degree fairway is more like a 5 wood not a 7 wood. At 22° it's a 7 wood. Distance wise a 20° is more like a 2/3 iron distance only flying higher and the 22° is more like 4/5 iron
@@roberttaylor1801 5 woods are 18 degress so same difference.
@@12OZK12 and somehow im getting 0 loft with my 5 wood and just hitting screaming line drives that roll forever.
Great video as always Rick and I completely agree with making equipment easier for novice players or people with disabilities so that golf can be accessible to more people. I can not hit driver and have been playing for about 1 year, therefore as you don't need the club I will happily look after it for you ;)
Rick you are perfect for this. Team up with Top Golf and come up with a playing Version.
he is teamed up with top golf, hence the video
@@DavidBoxFish Yeah I though he had a sponsorship deal as well - but didn't see any kind of disclaimer.
Sounds like a 2 wood all the same
@@joefiala6393well the whole video is basically one big ad :D
Just don't.
If anything we need to shrink the game.
As someone that wan't to go out here and there, it needs something like this. I don't have the time or money to really get out and play and practice to get consistent. Something like this would allow people new to golf get out on the course and play all while not slowing play. That's my biggest thing when playing is being worried about the pace of play when I need to fetch a ball from the rough....trees...bush..you get me.
But it goes only 200 yards. You can hit that with a driver with slowing the speed down and you will get more accuracy. But if you for 200 yards 5 wood is much better.
@@outlander234 Or a hybrid.
Great Video Rick! I know quite a few people that I'd like to get into golf that are just disheartened by the learning curve. If this would help people like them (and to be honest me at times) there are no downsides.
100% agree. Golf should be made easier for average golfer. Let them make the choice with how much help they want from equipment. Will make the game fun for all
How true! Likewise you are using the beginers tee box
Golf got a lot more fun when I kinda just cheated a bit and not really went for what pros do. Beginner tee box, forgiving clubs. If I shank a shot why not pick up my ball and put it on the green instead of the rough. Makes play faster and more enjoyable. I ain’t tryna be a pro here
@@Dennis4523 golf in general is much more fun when you cheat. but progressing and improving legitimately is just as fun and rewarding
@@Dennis4523 seriously. As long as you aren’t playing for money or holding up groups, you should play exactly how you want to. It’s your money for 99% of golfers the most important part should be you had fun.
@@peanut632 don’t get me wrong I found it really rewarding to fix my slice, see the improvement on reading greens and hitting my irons consistently. But if I shank the ball into the woods. I’m just gonna plop down another ball and disregard that shot. Or if I overshoot the hole and go far into the rough. Taking a few swings to learn the ammount of force needed before taking a shot ain’t so bad.
Sure it’s not playing by the rules, but it has made me better and the ammount of “let me try that again that one didn’t count” shots have gone down to none
I take my own clubs to Top Golf but last night I tried this club out of curiosity. It sounded like I was hitting with a planters peanut can. Perhaps this was partly due to Top Golf's 'engineered to not go far' balls. I think, though, it's a worthy addition for the abundance of non-golfers who go there. Another fun review, Rick!
I work for Topgolf and it is absolutely a blast to hit this thing. Dead straight every time around 4-5 iron distance.
How is it different to a hybrid?
@@Grand.Theft.Auto.VI.Shorts did you watch the video? it has a driver head, not a hybrid head.
@@huntercroak5551 it’s got the same loft as a hybrid, n doesn’t go as far as a driver… so the only difference is bigger club face?
@@Grand.Theft.Auto.VI.Shorts its got 7 degrees more loft than a 2-3 hybrid
@@jacoblokowich9656 ig I got a 5hybrid tho
I just get back from Top Golf and saw this driver! I did notice that the loft on this is bizarre but have no idea that it goes up to 20 degrees! The impact feels weird for driver. Not that excited to use, however, it is a fun driver and really does what it said.
For us average golfers, most lost balls and penalty shots (and destroyed scores) come from missed tee shots. imagine having a club like this that should be a lot easier to hit from tee than a fairwaywood. The only reason I can come up with why no brand has made a club like this, is because selling golf balls is great business.
Completely agree man! Especially with the price of some golf balls nowadays. Depending what you play once you buy a couple dozens you’re the same price as a lower end or older model driver. These companies know what they’re doing. Lol
Unfortunately this type of club doesn't conform to the rules of golf. The major golf companies wouldn't view it as a big seller for that reason and many more.
Agreed mate. It breaks down a huge barrier and could be a training aid to improve your drives as well.
The challenge is what makes golf fun. This is absolutely great for topgolf though, where no matter what, you’re going for a casual time.
For adequate golfers, yes. But for someone new to the sport or playing 5 rounds per year with their mates? Someone who goes to the course for fun and company? A driver like this would be fantastic.
The challenge is what makes golf aggravating and somewhat disappointing! Hanging out with friends and those few shots in a round that are "perfect" are what make golf fun!! This club might give you a couple of those few shots!✌️
I thinks it's Def great for a beginner like me! Because it is so extremely hard and the small wins is what makes a giant difference, the first center club hit in rhe air is what keeps you wanting to make that happen, looking at this I could see lots of people benefiting from this club. Ty for sharing and Godbless
Rick, I saw the disclaimer early in the video that this club is non-conforming. Any idea what makes it non-conforming?
Likely the clubhead; regulations state that 460 cc is the maximum possible size, and Rick mentioned early in the video that it looked "massive". The club being shorter shouldn't be an issue, though most drivers are between 44-46" (but can't be longer than 46").
My dad would love this driver. When you consider the amount of players in their 70s and 80s, this driver makes so much sense
I have been a Topgolf two times. With the amount of people who try to hit it over the net, it did not take me long to suspect that the drivers were designed to not go that far. Same thing with the balls. Topgolf is fun, but it’s not golf. It looks like golf and sounds like golf but it’s closer to bowling than it is golf. In my opinion.
Yup, but it’s a great entry point to golf. I golfed when I was a kid but fell off when I was a teenager. Went a couple years ago with a buddy and now golfing is one of my favorite hobbies again. I’ve taken friends to topgolf and a few of them have joined me at the range and even the course afterwards.
Hit Top Golf this past weekend, and sure enough, they had them. Pretty cool concept, especially for a facility like TG. I didn't try to hit it, but my wife (doesn't play golf), did and she had a great time and want to get one and go out with me and my sons out to the course...
“Always goes straight”
Rick: half the shots on the course sweeping hooks lol. Or as he would say “a bit of a drawry one”
That is more the 20* loft and probably not a stiff shaft on that driver.
They stayed in the fairway coz they're landing 70 yards shorter than his normal driver. Add 70 yards to nearly all the shots he hit on the course and they're gonna make friends with foliage...
Well you cant call it a hook since they do start a decent amount in right direction and they curved back into fairway most of them. But also you cant call that a true draw. He should have said a bit of a hookey one lol
Like what’s already been said it’s the higher loft mixed with a regular flex shaft making him draw it more literally says it in the video 🤦♂️
@@outlander234 you absolutely can call it a hook. A hook doesn’t have to be a ball that goes OB. You can hook one into the fairway. 10-20 yards of curve is considered a hook. It’s about the shape of a “hook.” A draw is under 10 yard shot shape.
I totally agree wit Rick.on this club as that it should be introduced etc. I used this during a few games this week for the first time mixed in with using a standard driver towards the end very good training tool
Looks like a Titleist 907D1
It does a bit!!!
I've always struggled a bit with driver and it ended up frustrating me so much I bought a Cleveland 3+ Hy-Wood. It's a bit like the TG club, shorter shaft (3 wood length) but a larger head a bit deeper but wide.
It's completely transformed my game. I now hit 200 yards and usually a slight draw, sometimes it pierces the air like a rocket. Sometimes it's a bit too high but never a duck hook or wild slice.
I've lost 30 yards but I'm not in the trees or OB anything like as much. Anyone struggling or feeling like they would like an easy club that goes 200 yards relatively straight I recommend checking out the Cleveland Hywood.
big golf must be paying them to not release this to the masses. if they sold this, they would make a fortune.
that being said Callaway owns Topgolf!
@@MastrChiefthat’s who designed it.😉
Not with the awful carry distance.
@@101wildgooseare you trying to say a club that goes straight 200 yards no matter what the skill level wouldn’t sell? You are wrong they would sell and get people instantly hooked why you think top golf is so big?
@@101wildgoose the average drive of an average golfer is just 215, beginners are less than 200. This club would be great for a beginner… and it wouldn’t sell because the public has been convinced distance is king.
I agree with you Rick. The people who want to get good at golf can always use regular clubs to get better and hone their skills. But there should be an option to make golf easy. A lot of people don't golf just because of how hard it is which is a shame because it is a great activity that gets you outside and it is something you can do with friends and family.
Seriously though. Why in the hell would they not sell it? Seems like a cash cow!
I played TopGolf about 3 weeks after starting Golf and thought i'd cracked it with the driver; now i'm back to it being the only swing keeping me from being comfortable on a course :). make it legal!
You should put a top of the line shaft in it and retest!
Couldn’t agree more.
Got my 18yr old 12• driver out today, hit 5 from 7 fairways. Maybe not the 245m I wanted but 215-230 and got the ball in play.
(What I did after that using my 15yr old hybrids and Adam’s idea GT2 undercut irons is a completely different question 😂 never drew the ball so far left in my life).
Golf should 100% be made as easy as possible, especially considering how many people just started playing over the last few years
I disagree. Also this thing goes 200 yards with Rick giving it a good whack. Its easier to hit a driver 200 yards by slowing the swing down. Even 5 wood is easier. I am afraid this was paid advertisment.
I swing an old m1 12 degree with a stiff shaft and it is amazing for me. It balloons in the wind, but, find myself in the fairway often. I love it
You reviewed the Teton driving hybrid, which you liked. That same company has several high lofted easy to hit drivers like this. I use their sprinter driver, while only 13 degrees of loft, it has many of the same features as this Top Golf driver. And people might ask who is Teton, and they are basically Nike Golf, just without Nike. And they make very high quality clubs aimed at amateurs.
I love lamp
As a kid I played with a seven iron in a field out my backyard shooting at 3 sewar caps. A good club to learn to address and hit the ball without much concern. Good to not have to battle the clubs as you get comfortable hitting a golf ball.
You know what makes golf easier? Practice. I've worked hard on my 3.7 hdcp. Laziness shouldn't breed success. This goes for all things in life.
cool story
@@beyoncehadoneofthebest cooler reply
Completely agree with this, however for someone that wants to play golf recreationally, what is the problem with that? If they like it and enjoy it they either carry on using this club, or they get a “normal” club?
@@kieranwilliams8215 No, I get it. I think the club is awesome for the right setting. I'm not a "get off my lawn guy, haha." I'm teaching my two daughters (13 and 8) how to play. When we go to the range and they hit a good shot (after several, several bad ones) it's worth more than hitting 80% of fairways with a cheater club. They see me hitting more good shots than bad, and they are realizing the only way for them to do that too is by putting down the tablets and coming with me when I invite them. They're doing it more and more, and they're improving. My comment was about making golf "easier" rather than about the club. Golf will never be easy, haha.
Except the market for a club like this is people who are very busy or lower income and can only get out to play a few times a year during warm season. Most people in the bottom 80% of income fall into this category. It’s expensive and time consuming to play, so people working multiple jobs to make ends meet, and people who don’t make much money, don’t have the time or disposable income to go golfing regularly, so they could practice at the range the 3 to 5 times a year they have available, or they could actually play and have assistive technology like this that makes it more fun. The legality of a club is for competitive purposes, not for amateur fun.
You might recall a nox set of clubs that decathlon had a few years ago. Inesis 100. The driver in the set had 14deg loft and a shorter shaft
The set was about £159 a few years ago
i think making golf easier like this is a great idea. it gives beginners the option for easier to hit clubs, at the sacrifice of things like distance and control. as you get better, you might start swapping out these easy to hit clubs in favor for something that will go further, be more versatile, etc. it creates an easier starting point to people who maybe aren't as interested in becoming an amazing golfer, but are more interested in just getting into the sport as a pastime.
I got a chance to use it. I really liked it. Normally i cant hit a driver without a slice.... Im still new to golf but i used this and it worked really well. I stepped back to a driver and i played a lot better than normally.
Nice one Rick I agree doesn’t need to be for experienced golfers but as a starter or like me has a love hate relationship with the driver, (mostly hate) lol, this would be great. I also think that more 9 hole courses would make it more accessible to people.
I tried this driver tonight at Top Golf. It was INCREDIBLE what it did for my swing!! So good!!!
Your last sentence summed up my entire thoughts. Get more people into golf. That's what it should always be about. I always hear about the Tour doing this and that to get more kids in, but damn only if your parents are loaded. Make cheaper clubs easier to hit and tough. Then if people want to progress, they can. We need more people into this sport.
Hey you should look up the "perfect driver" from years ago , 5 wood length , slightly smaller head with I think 11.5 degree loft . , easy to hit as well .
Back in the 80s there was a fashion for 1 1/2 woods. Never had one but I think they were basically driver sized heads with more loft and shorter shafts. Ie, bit less distance but make it easier to hit. Same idea really, taken to more of an extreme.
I play occasionally with 80s woods, more often with late 90s bubble shaft woods, all Taylormade - but I did take 1" off the shafts on all the bubble shaft woods, makes me much more consistent.
This would be a great driver for senior golfers. As a senior golfer myself I could certainly use a driver like this. I hit my present driver a bit over 200 yards, but don't always find the fairway.
I would definitely be in the market for an "80% fairways at 200 yards" club. Could still carry a regular driver for holes where you want to "go for it", but this puts you in a good position on so many holes.
Really interesting question. I mean I play for fun and this would make it more fun for me.
Great idea. My wife and I go to Top Golf every once and a while and she would really like that. She's not much for golf, but she enjoys playing there, this would just help out an extra bit.
I went to top golf the other day and I can confirm it’s definitely possible to slice and hook it👍🏼
Nice Rick! Like how they are not a sales gimmick, as you cant buy them
Awesome club! Great video for sure!
Rick back at the OG The Trafford Centre. I would love one of these clubs. EBay here I come some scaly will steal one 😂
Totally agree with your opinion Rick, well said.
Since I started using a 12 deg driver my driving has been more controllable and in fact my distance in better than with my 10.5 degree....I've also fitted an Aldila 40 gram ladies flex shaft
I couldn't agree more Rick, love this video
Great video - cant wait for the 7 iron and Wedge!!!
Great idea. Great video!
Glad you liked it!
I used to use a sldr driver set at 14deg with a 5 wood shaft, which was fun to use
Couldn’t agree more with you Rick. Great idea
Simmons golf used to make the great white brand which had shorter shafts and higher lofts. They were very easy to hit.I still have a 2 iron, only as long as a 5 but slightly heavier head. Guaranteed 200+ yards and straight every time. And as easy to hit as a regular 5 iron.
The same club with a regular driver shaft you want that
250 yd. carry to really be competitive but I love the loft because my swing is very shallow
Rick, thank you for not gatekeeping golf.
Sounds and looks perfect for senior!
Long ago I learned that Camilo Villegas would choke down on his drivers. I started doing it as well and it really improved my drive. .. I would absolutely use this driver.
Absolutely agree Rick!
The one club I never put in my bag is the driver, because it's the one club that spoils my day. I can hit irons well. You are right Rick, a club like this would keep new/average golfers coming back to the course if you could put one in the bag. Maybe you should get one manufactured and sell it Rick?
Driving best part of my game, I have a Callaway Razr, 8° loft and x stiff shaft. Unreal club
Couldn’t agree more Rick!
Came home from the range, this is the first video suggested. Cool, thank you UA-cam, doesn't hurt at all!
Hit one yesterday and it was awesome.
Why arent clubs like this popular? Because other golfers shame them. This club reminds me of my 13 degree Wilson Staff Launch Pad 2 driver. I don't hit it as far as my old driver, but I hit a lot more fairways. Everyone told me not to get it. I did anyways, and now they are impressed with the club.
My son and I both are horrible slicers
Went to top golf in Dallas played a quick hour
Had some cold beers and great pretzels at top golf and each hit the sure shot straight stick
We each hit 25 balls in competition
Of total 50 swings ,,,,,,,,,,only 1 slice
We both loved the club
I’d buy it if available
The club is a little shorter than their average driver
But for better enjoyment for amateurs just shooting at the holes at Top Golf
Genius idea , ,,,you play better you come back more fun often
WELL DONE TOP GOLF
Great video Rick, would be great to see you hit it off the deck
What a great video 👏🏼
Check out junior clubs which are basically the same as these .. and as far as I am aware legal - MK pro clubs my son uses are super easy to hit .. shorter, more loft , large head etc
Im not new to golf, been playing over a decade, but i hate driver, didnt hit one for 5+ years, this would make me enjoy that part of the game a lot more
Now this is very interesting, informative, and a brilliant idea to encourage people to play the game, Also agree about the pricing Rick
A couple of things
1. Even if they made one with, say, a 15° loft, it would still be easier to hit than a regular driver.
2. With that loft (15° or 20°), your average weekend (18 hcp) golfer would probably use this off the deck for their second shot on Par 5s and long par 4s.
If the loft was 16-18° the club would hit longer than it does, straight shots are good but when they are 80 meters shorter than you typically hit you aren't shaving strokes off your game!
This would be great to play with and boost confidence. As we all know, the scoring is really in the short game and putting
Hi Rick, i honestly believe that a player of your ability should not really test this club, why
you have a good swing,
high swing speed,
accurate ball striking etc, etc,
If your ball travels 200 yds, then you should hit a 5 or 6 iron, pretty easy for you.
An amatuer golfer should really test this club, a person who,
has a slower swing speed,
swing out to in or in to out.
attacks the ball too steeply.
strikes the ball all over the face, etc, etc.
This might show if the club actually 'goes straight' or not.
would demonstrate how far the ball travels.
just my take on things.
what do you think?
3 wood off the tee maybe. Get one that can be adjustable and crank up the loft. My driver is a Cobra Aerojet 12 degrees with a 45 inch shaft. Total fairway finder.
I was at top golf last week and hit with it. It’s ridiculously easy to hit. My neighbor has never played before and he would hit it straight. It’s wild