Root Test for Series

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  • Опубліковано 25 тра 2008
  • Thanks to all of you who support me on Patreon. You da real mvps! $1 per month helps!! :) / patrickjmt !! Root Test for Series - Using the Root Test to Determine if a Series Converges or Diverges! The test along with 3 full examples are shown!
    For more free math videos, check out PatrickJMT.com

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  • @Merchantic
    @Merchantic 10 років тому +226

    Still depressed that I've learned more from an hour of your videos than a month of class.....

    • @MarcoMorelos
      @MarcoMorelos 10 років тому +46

      well for one thing, He doesn't go over proofs, which are extremely abstracted. He just tells you how to do the concrete part of math: solving. The simplicity of the way he teaches plus the fact that the videos are short and convinient makes it easy to learn here. The people coming here are also in the mindset of learning too, otherwise it would be unlikely that they'd come here at all!

  • @pranavranganath7192
    @pranavranganath7192 3 роки тому +13

    Almost 13 years later.... still amazing. Thank you so much for this. It's taught timelessly.

    • @girmawakeyo4143
      @girmawakeyo4143 10 місяців тому

      yes

    • @Salamanca-joro
      @Salamanca-joro 3 місяці тому

      Damn man i was 3 years old when he uploaded this video, and now look at me watching this video after all these years! UA-cam is great

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +8

    glad you like them all : )
    i figured that if they suck, i would just delete them. most people seem to like them though : )
    and honestly, i forget half of this stuff, so i make them for 'future me' - the one that has forgotten and re-watches old me (newer me?), so i have to be nice and soothing to my future self : )

  • @lukemattison7836
    @lukemattison7836 9 років тому +20

    6:11 "The numerator is going to get big very quickly, the numerator is going to get big as well, but not as fast as the numerator." Idk why I found that so funny, probably too much studying...

  • @josephabbate6315
    @josephabbate6315 10 років тому +7

    Dude, I was literally tweaking out about this midterm that I have to take in like 40 minutes and your videos on convergence tests totally saved my ass. Thank you, Patrick.

  • @KD35USA
    @KD35USA 11 років тому +30

    "Tired of scrounging youtube for math help?"
    No, I've found this channel. Why would anyone pay for online tutoring videos if they've found patrickJMT?

    • @sashamuller9743
      @sashamuller9743 4 роки тому +5

      7 years down the line and us bloaks still get that stupid ad lol

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +3

    well, it is basically knowing that the n/(n+1) is the flip of (n+1)/n; that raised to a power of n has something to do with 'e'! i am seen that limit so many times now, that i just recognize it. so to answer your question, what made me think to do that is: experience!
    sometimes one has to be shown what to do a few times before it sticks!

  • @aoalr
    @aoalr 8 років тому +1

    You're literally my savior. I have an exam today and my professor was crap at explaining everything, so I didn't understand any of the series and sequences. I watched at least 8 of your videos and they helped a lot! Thank you so much, Patrick!!

  • @neggsa
    @neggsa 11 років тому +1

    Patrick I love you! Your videos have helped me so much throughout calc 1 and now calc 2! Thank you for making these videos, so many of us appreciate it!!

  • @16colombiano
    @16colombiano 8 років тому +47

    you know you made it when you say "The answer is the number e"

    • @dylansanderson3663
      @dylansanderson3663 7 років тому +6

      e is a number though

    • @contoursofcrafting
      @contoursofcrafting 7 років тому +2

      Yeah, but stating e as the answer is more exact than saying 2.71 is the answer. For example, if for a problem you find the answer to be sqrt 2, it is much more accurate and precise to let the answer remain sqrt 2, even if you have been taught to simplify. This is because saying sqrt 2 = 1.41 is actually incorrect, even though sqrt 2 is approximately 1.41 if one is using three significant figures. So, you could indeed say the answer is approximately 1.41 (like if you are doing a physics problem where estimation>accuracy), and you would be technically correct, but it is much better to say sqrt 2. There is just no point in simplifying, it only takes more time to produce a crappier answer.
      So, like +poopnuggets (lol) said: to answer e is to be exact, to name some number of digits of e is the answer is less exact. It is unnecessary to simplify, much like it is unnecessary to rationalize-- just more time and work for a less correct answer. I do not know how understanding an answer can be e is equivalent to "making it," but realizing that a concept like e is more exact than its estimated number is indeed helpful in math. Because, actually, e is not a number but a constant that can be expressed precisely as the base of the natural log (ln), such that ln(e)=1 (e^1=e), and can be estimated as the infinite series of 1/n!, which does not have an exact value since infinity is not a number either, just another concept, but does give us the estimation often used (2.71).

    • @contoursofcrafting
      @contoursofcrafting 7 років тому

      You can also do a lot of cool stuff with e that you cannot do with anything else (like its role in probability theory), and it has unique properties (such as the derivative of e^x is e^x, and the same applies for riemann integrals). ALSO, all digits of the constant e are not known (it is irrational), though the known number of digits is constantly increasing

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +2

    series are really cool. it is one of my favorites subjects (if not my favorite subject) that one encounters in calculus. some very beautiful and useful results come from them.
    of course, they are also pretty tricky at times!

  • @vjbhatt96
    @vjbhatt96 13 років тому

    @patrickJMT i like it when you go into the conceptual depths but at the same time keeping maths enjoyable, i feel really grateful to you., you just inspire me.....i like "improper integrals" in your video series very much :-)

  • @sasaltthefries
    @sasaltthefries 15 років тому +3

    I love the videos - they're so clear and really add to what I try to learn in class (we just go too quickly!)
    Thanks for doing this!

  • @rahlity
    @rahlity 13 років тому +1

    God bless you dude! You have no idea how much these videos have helped me for my cal 2 final. the limit of my appreciation for your work approaches infinity. Great work!

  • @vjbhatt96
    @vjbhatt96 13 років тому

    thank you so much for being there i have been watching you videos for the whole day today about this topic..........they are very much easy to understand..thank you again!!

  • @datboytroy9393
    @datboytroy9393 8 років тому +17

    I would be so lost without you! I can honestly say I learned more over the course of watching your videos in one day than I learned the past 3 weeks in my Cal 2 class!

  • @vjbhatt96
    @vjbhatt96 13 років тому +1

    these videos are very much helpful i have been watching sequence and series topic for almost 8 hrs with small intervals and practicing problems in between ....i hope i will do well in exams
    thank you so much ....people like you should always be there ....!!

  • @FlakeyOkie64
    @FlakeyOkie64 12 років тому +1

    just started studying this in calc II and your video was very helpful. sound quality was good and you made this topic less frightening!

  • @MMAWatch7
    @MMAWatch7 7 років тому +4

    Another few videos to once again get ready for yet another Calc 2 test. Thx Patrick you tht man.

  • @ShaneBurroughs5
    @ShaneBurroughs5 13 років тому +1

    just so you know your the man. . .helped me through my calc II class with relative ease. Best vids on the net for sure.

  • @MrBlash93
    @MrBlash93 10 років тому

    Thank you so much for all your videos . Your videos have truely helped me.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +1

    1 to any real number power is 1.
    the problem is if you have a function of the form [f(x)]^[g(x)] and f(x) is APPROACHING 1 (but not necessarily equal to 1).
    limit notation is not very good; the standard notation is to use equality, when in reality it is just 'getting close' to that number (in most cases). eventually, one figures this out and just learns to deal with it : )

  • @superguyy4akaamo
    @superguyy4akaamo 8 років тому

    Thanks! I love how detailed you are. Keep it up!

  • @bastianian2939
    @bastianian2939 4 роки тому +1

    So good man. Still helps people out after 11 years

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +4

    i need to start paying you for all the nice ratings and comments : )

  • @estebanquintanilla6959
    @estebanquintanilla6959 5 років тому

    Bruh. If I pass my Calculus 2 exam. I’m so sending some cash your way and making a donation. You definitely deserve it! I’ve been using your videos since pre Cal. I don’t know where I’d be if it wasn’t for your videos. Thank you so much!😭

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 років тому +1

    my pleasure my friend! hope the exam turns out well

  • @gr3engirl
    @gr3engirl 12 років тому

    i love you! thank you so much. ive been watching your videos all day for my final tomorrow. i think ill pass it because of you! :)

  • @heytarotpipi
    @heytarotpipi 13 років тому

    omg, thanks a ton patrick!! i have a maths exam next week, luv ur videos so much

  • @BreakneckWalrus
    @BreakneckWalrus 12 років тому

    Great video! I have a test on Tuesday and your videos have been so helpful.
    I'd just like to let you know, though, that this video's not on your website.
    Thanks again!

  • @hash2pat
    @hash2pat 15 років тому

    dude ur a lifesaver. Thank you for all this. You make so much easier

  • @marquez2390
    @marquez2390 6 років тому

    Your last example really helped me as I wondered if we would have to use the root test twice.

  • @mitmfan
    @mitmfan 16 років тому +1

    You did an excellent job! I only wish that I had discovered this while I was learning about this instead of after I had already finished the course.
    However, I never really did understand it during the course, so I was lost during the assignment and exams, so this was like me learning it for the first time. However, my calculus teacher seemed to avoid doing examples or at least examples using numbers like you used.
    Again, good job! I know others will benefit from it like I did.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 років тому +1

    glad to help it make sense for you!

  • @lukeeaston7231
    @lukeeaston7231 8 років тому +47

    6:12 "the numerator is going to get big quickly, the numerator is going to get big as well, but not as quick at the numerator"

  • @szoutenb
    @szoutenb 16 років тому

    Thank you so much!
    I've been having trouble with Series! It'll certainly help my final today!!

  • @Deckilll
    @Deckilll 7 років тому

    Thank you helped a lot. Especially the last example!

  • @dennyyang7286
    @dennyyang7286 10 років тому +1

    For the 3rd question he did,
    lim n->infinity (1+(1/n))^n is in fact equal to e.
    Set y=(1+(1/n))^n, then take the natural log of both sides. You will have
    ln y =n*ln(1+(1/n)) Then take the limit on both sides.
    lim n->infinity lny = lim n-> infinity (n * ln(1+(1/n))
    Now, the goal is to rewrite it in an indeterminate form in which the L'Hopital Rule can be applied easily.
    lim n-> infinity [ln(1+(1/n)] / [1/n] which = 0/0.
    Take the derivative on the numerator and denominator and you will be left with lim n-> infinity (1/ (1+(1/n))) and that limit will equal to 1.
    Now we have lim n->infinity ln y = 1
    lim n->infinity e^(lny)=e^1 and then replace y with y=(1+(1/n))^n after you cancel out e and the natural log. Therefore lim n->infinity (1+(1/n))^n = e
    lim n->infinity (1-(1/n))^n is equal to 1/e.

  • @jesscap09
    @jesscap09 11 років тому

    ...and btw... THANK YOU. Your instruction is fantastic. I'm so grateful to have found these videos.

  • @kyosukeplays
    @kyosukeplays 11 років тому

    I love seeing all of the steps. Thanks!

  • @emirdumani
    @emirdumani 15 років тому

    your videos are brilliant patrick, just brilliant :)
    by the way, i wanted to ask if n-th term theorem could be used on your 3rd example here.

  • @beansombrero
    @beansombrero 13 років тому

    @patrickJMT no theres a place called jordan located in the middle east. You are making such a huge a positive feedback

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +1

    thanks again my friend!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 років тому +1

    @remirap no, i am long done with school.

  • @MK472009
    @MK472009 12 років тому

    Thank you for your videos! Everything is so clear.

  • @emjab68
    @emjab68 13 років тому +1

    Thank you so much for making this easy to understand! Fantastic.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +2

    ops, thanks!
    i did that in another video too : )
    i am making sure everyone is paying attention!

  • @yasthilmaharaj
    @yasthilmaharaj 14 років тому +1

    "most people seem to like them though" No No Patrick. Everybody LOVES them. You are a great man. Thousands of students around the world are more grateful than you know. Thank you for the time and effort you put into these videos. They have saved the lives of many students.

  • @tjwick63
    @tjwick63 14 років тому

    Awesome video dude, this helped me a ton thank you

  • @troylee7437
    @troylee7437 10 років тому

    thank you patrick. it really helps me a lot

  • @ThangkhungNay
    @ThangkhungNay 14 років тому +1

    Geez you make it much easier to understand than my professor...great stuff!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  16 років тому +1

    but only the 1/n term goes to zero so that we are left with (3^0)(3^3) = 1(27) = 27

  • @lukewilkes1992
    @lukewilkes1992 11 років тому

    6:09 was pretty funny. :) thanks so much for the help though man. You have been a lifesaver.

  • @brightgreen3270
    @brightgreen3270 8 років тому

    Awesome video man. I definitely learned a lot.

  • @MrMankoe
    @MrMankoe 12 років тому

    Wow! incredible... especially the very last part of the root test!

  • @aqsaaslam5856
    @aqsaaslam5856 7 років тому

    it really helps me,thanks Patrick

  • @davidbalandran875
    @davidbalandran875 10 років тому

    You just saved my life man thank you so much

  • @RooMRami
    @RooMRami 10 років тому

    man youu are a LIFE SAVER !!! I wish u were my TEACHER !!!

  • @jamesali9320
    @jamesali9320 8 років тому

    THNX Matt ur Vids are the best!

  • @tunamon
    @tunamon 13 років тому

    Great lesson!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 років тому

    @armidylano44 well, i used to bore people at a major university as well, so maybe it is all the same

  • @FcBarcelonaKid
    @FcBarcelonaKid 8 років тому +7

    God bless you Patrick

  • @sindresaetre
    @sindresaetre 15 років тому +1

    Great videos, they are really helping my preps for the exams! By the way, at 5.45 you say that 0*27=27, not that it matters, the answer will still be the same.

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому

    no problem

  • @AnthonyPickett
    @AnthonyPickett 12 років тому

    wow. im at UT too.. and the whole time I wondered where patrick was at and it was right here.. same world!! Just show Austin rules!

  • @omnifur
    @omnifur 14 років тому

    YOU ROCK. I have a calc test this upcoming monday

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 років тому

    @BornAtTheBar yep, got a masters

  • @armidylano44
    @armidylano44 13 років тому

    @patrickJMT
    Hey, I noticed you're from Austin. I'm actually at UT right now =)
    Anyway, thanks again. King of youtube math, you are.

  • @tonewardbound
    @tonewardbound 7 років тому

    I like how at 6:12 you referred to the numerator twice just to test if folks are paying attention. ;)

  • @ohmannhey
    @ohmannhey 15 років тому

    Those are fantastic questions. I would love to see a video just to have those answered. Is there a possibility of having this done?

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +1

    i think you need to flip your fraction (n+1)/n

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  14 років тому +1

    @5ANASHEEROA do you mean michael jordan? was he in the middle east?

  • @IkeSan
    @IkeSan 4 роки тому

    I love how I got a video saying that videos from the 2000s math are not educational enough when this was a really good video.

  • @gmaungu
    @gmaungu 15 років тому

    excellent explanation, im getting to like this thanks to you

  • @DoggoWillink
    @DoggoWillink 12 років тому

    I thought series were going to be hard, but this whole concept so far, including doing differential eqtns with power series, and the Taylor polynomial section, has been easier than integration techniques IMO. First time in a while that I didn't actually need Patrick's videos to get it down correctly. Still watched them though, they always have something inventive to teach you.

  • @stanke89
    @stanke89 15 років тому

    thanks man, you absolutely rock!!!!

  • @ceny021
    @ceny021 12 років тому

    I LOVE YOUR TUTORIALS!!!! THANK YOU. I'M SO GONNA ACE MY CAL TEST!!!!!! :DDDDDD

  • @maethorlotr
    @maethorlotr 13 років тому +1

    @patrickJMT
    Thanks for all your videos!! Its much easier for me to study math when I can pause and rewind the lecture :)
    But I have a question, say I have a sum of (x/n)^n
    what do I do with x?
    at the end I got:
    lim (x/n)
    do I say that it converges for x

  • @chocinspired
    @chocinspired 6 років тому

    Great videos boss

  • @gatman9009
    @gatman9009 12 років тому

    woah, i never thought of that. thanks bud, this is gonna help with my exam i got tomorrow!

  • @h0s3a
    @h0s3a 12 років тому

    patrick you rock man

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 років тому +1

    @BlueColourPencils awww, thanks! go texas!

  • @mitmfan
    @mitmfan 16 років тому

    I understand that if you have a function raised to the nth power, it is a good idea to use the root test. However, what about the other tests: integral test, sequence test, comparison test, and ratio test? What should you look for in a function to determine which of the other tests you should use?

  • @NgJackal1990
    @NgJackal1990 12 років тому

    You're my favorite teacher! =D

  • @smatrick0208
    @smatrick0208 11 років тому

    you sound like the hippie teacher on beavis and butthead. On a serious note your videos are very helpful. Thank you for posting!

  • @jenitacharles258
    @jenitacharles258 2 роки тому

    Thank you sir

  • @armidylano44
    @armidylano44 13 років тому

    You rock, man. Better teacher than my Calculus professor. And I go to a major university too! =O

  • @seanmartin7257
    @seanmartin7257 5 років тому +1

    I know this is an over ten year old video but Patrick I hope you're having a good day

  • @dolce0me
    @dolce0me 15 років тому

    OMG I agree with Inferfire........it is plain scary that I understand all your root test/ratio test stuff, I have my final tomorrow and before these videos I thought I was screwed because i have absolutely NO idea what my prof is babbling about....I wanna seriously thank you so much!!!

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  13 років тому

    @Raxarax i was being a bit ' tongue in cheek ' with that comment

  • @patrickjmt
    @patrickjmt  15 років тому +2

    ahahahhaahah - that is awesome!
    kisses + cookies = a good day

  • @1992satomi
    @1992satomi 12 років тому

    thank you for this video. YOU SAVED MY LIFE! :D

  • @ngoctran-hp5kr
    @ngoctran-hp5kr 10 років тому

    Thank you so much :)

  • @Closing408
    @Closing408 12 років тому

    due you mean why he raised it to the (1/n)? and if thats the question its because the equation has you find the limit of [an] to the nth root which is the same as raising the problem to (1/n). an example is the the square root of 4 which can be written as 4^(1/2). hope this helps :)

  • @shahidbangash8491
    @shahidbangash8491 6 років тому

    thanks a lot .... i helped me a lot

  • @suganya1555
    @suganya1555 6 років тому

    Amazing,, thanks a lot

  • @AkshayBala__007
    @AkshayBala__007 6 років тому

    Now i can tell okay, that..that.. Maths is Fun! all bcoz of Patrick!

  • @Abraham_Justice
    @Abraham_Justice 14 років тому

    For the last example on this video it is easier to use L'Hopitals on that limit by taking the ln of the limit instead of having to memorize that that limit equals e. You can show why it equals e.

  • @jesscap09
    @jesscap09 11 років тому

    I spent hours trying to understand my professor's instructions... yet I watched 3 of your videos, and I'm good to go. I've been barely passing Calc II, and not because I'm "dumb"... it's because I've spent an insane amount of time trying to understand HIS teaching. I should have sought other sources, and I would've done so much better in the class. I'm studying to be a teacher, and this really makes me see how there is NO "dumb" student... different students learn differently.

  • @inside91
    @inside91 9 років тому

    I'm not sure if this is an active conversation but if someone sees this please respond. In the proof of the Root Test I do not understand why you have to choose a q, Q