A wonderful watch. The owner was totally shocked when he got the valuation and I think many other people would be too. I hope he will have a good insurance for it and keep it safe.
@@daburamajin-su4gv One recently was sold for 158,000 CHF. That's about 139,000 GBP, or 161,000 EUR. Great appriciation in value, considering 50,000 GBP from 1991 would be about 110,000 GBP today
@@votpavel Its not only one of the oldest watch complications, but also one of the most difficult and labour intensive. It chimes the time using miniature gongs which are controlled by a regulator and gearworks that calculate the time. A modern repeater can range from $100,000 to $20,000,000 depending on the brand and comolexity.
Dang grandpop was just strolling around with a minute repeater on his wrist. What an heirloom. Makes my collection that my son will inherit look pedestrian
I was about 16 when I saw that episode and I've always loved watches especially grande complications such as this this one. I was recently thinking of that very special square minute repeater and wondered if I'd ever see it again. Im delighted to see this video. I thought it was valued at £40k but it was £50k. I follow high end watch auctions and I've never seen a watch like it for sale but I'd reckon it would sell for £300k-£500k probably more. Those that say it's worth nothing don't know the market value of such things. Absolutely gorgeous piece.
That’s not a grand complication, it’s a time only watch that includes a minute repeater complication, and as remarkable as a minute repeater is, for a watch to be considered a grand complication, it has to include several complications besides just the minute repeater, like a chronograph, a perpetual calendar, power reserve, moon-phase etc etc.
Saw that episode in 1991. Blown away by the valuation. Always stuck in my mind. To see the clip 33 yrs later, one wonders: a) where the watch is today b) what is its valuation today?
When are you going to produce a reboot of a similar show, for watches only? The watch market has gained a lot of interest recently and I'm sure a lot of people would be keen on watching something like this today!
Nice idea but it'll never happen, the appeal of watches isn't broad enough to warrant a stand alone show, not on the BBC, however it might be possible on one of the freeview channels or online.
He suggested that the owner should consider selling it in the market given its assessed value. Because It would be difficult for people to sell off their family heirlooms even if they are worth thousands or millions unless they were cash stripped to the hilts.
In 1991, you could buy a house pretty comfortably for around £50k. A decent semi in a nice area. That same house could be sold today in the U.K., for £250-350k. Just shows the value and appreciation of assets at the right time. Someone, elsewhere in the comments shows you the watch value in dollars and price equivalence today.
Exactly These inflation comparisons while useful don’t give the whole picture 4 bed semi on my street would have probably been 30k back then Now goes for 220k+ One sold in like 99 I think for 60 1991 was recession era too
Not compareable at all to the minute repeating watch in the video!! It’s actually an Audemars Piguet watch retailed by Gübelin. Both case, dial, hands, and movement are manufactured and finished by Audemars Piguet. A minute repeating wristwatch made by Audemars Piguet, Vacheron&Constantin, or Patek Philippe, and retailed by Gübelin, Tiffany, or similar retailer would by worth from around 30.000 and up depending on condition. Back in the early 1900 there was a recession in the US, and taxes were laid upon imported luxury items. To avoid taxes high end swiss watch manufacturers either supplied movements or complete watches but not branded, and then they were sold with the retailers brand. In this case it’s a known Audemars Piguet model in original condition. Dial has not been reprinted/redialed, hands and crown original, and the case not overpolished. I agree wtih the valuation! Your Gübelin Ipso-matic is a common watch with a basic Eta cal.2472 movement. If its in 18k gold it’s worth the weight of gold no more.. Do not compare your watch to this watch..
@@jonathanjoensen2679 I did not compare my watch to this but for me personally yes my watch is much more beautiful I have a Gubelin Ipso-Matic Triple Calendar & Moonphase Automatic, cal.11 1/2 and yes it is in yellow gold and in terms of price it's priceless as it was given to me by my grandfather
@jonathanjoensen2679 I liked your detailed description of this watch. It was very interesting and informative, but I was disappointed to see you suggest that mpinto was comparing his watch to this watch in the show. Such a disingenuous and arrogant quip was un called for. It rather sowered your whole reply.
@@mpinto79 I’m glad to hear it holds a high affection value to you personally. I just wanted to point out that the minute repeating watch appearing in the video is comparable to a Ferrari branded as a Fiat. In fact the much sought after Ferrari 246 GTS Dino were originally only sold as Dino 246 GTS. They had 6 cylinder engines and Enzo figured they might harm the Ferrari brand if sold as Ferraris. The Dino name actually came from his son passing away tragically. For several decades owners put Ferrari badges on them despite the fact that they were sold without Ferrari badges. Then the tables turned! Collectors looking for original unmolested cars prefered cars without th Ferrari badge in as original state as possible. All of a sudden Dino 246 GTS owner were peeling the unoriginal Ferrari badges of again. In short at Dino 246 GTS with no Ferrari badge was selling for a premium price whilst same car with a Ferrari badge would sell for less😂 The minute repeating Audemars Piguet watch in the video is produced in a time when artisans working at AP had nothing but time to spare. The attention to detail and all handcrafted on the latte as CNC machining wasn’t available at the time is just stunning! Modern calibers from AP lack are nowhere near as detailed. As an example let’s have a look at the anglage applied on this movement. If you a avoid inner corners on the bridges most anglage can be applied with a handheld router. But as soon as we are talking inner corners it gets way more complexed to apply anglage. If you cut two pieces of profiled wood in a miter saw at a 45° degrees angle and match them together, you will notice that the profiled edges will also match up perfectly in a 90° angle. But if you have a router and try to route the profile on two 45° allready assembled pieces of wood you will notice that the profile will not go all the way into the 90° angle. There will always be a 1/4 arc left as the router bit is rotating an thus will leave an arc of material that will have to be chiselled away if you want the same appearance you would get from assembling two preprofiled pieces of wood cut in 45°. That problem is the same when applying angle (rounded edge) on the movement bridged. A router bit will always leave an arc and that arc can only be filed away by manual labour. Try it in a piece of soft wood and you will see how difficult it is to remove this arc of unwanted material and blackpolish the anglage edge. Some of the bridges would even have multible inner corners. If the anglager messed one corner he would have to throw the bridge in the trash can and start all over again. On top of that comes the Cotes de Geneve stripes that would have to be applied in such a manner that geneva stripes match up perfectly from bridge to bridge. If you screw of a bridge younwill notice it is numbered on the underside hence that only matching numbers will fit on the movement platin to reveal a consistancy in the geneva stripes. Today machines do a lot of this work and the finish is simplified imensly. That doesn’t mean that finish isn’t as good as it used to be. It means that there is significantly less timeconsuming finish applied to movements today compared to the past.
I knew the guy had it made as soon as I saw the movement calibre, the quality of finish and the expert confirmed it’s provenance as genuine. When he mentioned the minute repeater complication and it’s evolution by Patek, and Vacheron Constantin, just 2 of the 3 big names in the Swiss watchmaking ‘holy trinity’ (the other is Audemars Piguet) I knew it was something rare and very valuable. Then with it being sold by a highly reputable high end Swiss jewellery house - Gubelin along with their own name on the dial and alongside the jewellery hallmark reference within the case, it was always going to command a high valuation.
And £50k in 1991?? In case anyone overseas was wondering, you could buy several houses for that in the UK back then. Nowadays £50k isn’t enough for a deposit 😂
My fathers father wore it and passed it with love to my father and then him with love to me hoping id pass it to one of my children with the same love Going going gone.
@@revo1974 yeah you're probably right, I was just saying. But also having something featured on the roadshow has been known to increase the sale value. Also this dude said it was a family heirloom so he's probably never going to sell it.
@@revo1974 it’s hilarious when people like yourself announce information so boldly as if you are acquainted with high value rare items. People need to learn how to stay quiet when a subject they know nothing about is being brought up. It’s obvious you don’t collect, stay silent and don’t pretend you’re not broke. It’s value far exceeds 100,000 pounds
@@DukeMundi What’s hilarious is when someone on the internet makes claims about another person without knowing anything at all about them, such as you have. Everything I wrote is factually. I own numerous high end watches. My most valuable is a VC Overseas. Finding a buyer of a high value classical watch is very difficult. And once again it’s value-the value of anything for that matter-is what someone is will to pay you for it.
Still a lesson worth learning……a watch’s true value depends what powers it. So many high end (high priced) Swiss watches have the same movement as others less fashionable, thus cheaper.
in this case it’s an Audemars Piguet watch! Both case, dial/hands, and movement is manufactured by Audemars Piguet and retailed by Gübelin(most likely to the US market in early 1920) Common practise back the as a recession in US meant that taxes were layed upon imported luxury items. In a way to avoid taxes high end Swiss watch manufacturers supllied either complete watches (like in this case) or a a high grade movement. Thus the item was considered an US manufactured item not deemed to be taxed. But not all Gübelin, Tiffany etc watches are valuable..
@@jonathanjoensen2679 I should have read you comment before I found the watch in a hodinkee article, that watch is in the AP archives/museum, interesting to know how many there are and what the value might be, you know or any idea ?
No there's a number of factors. Maker, design, movement, features, complications etc. If a watch has a mass produced movement like an entry level ETA, then it would be worth less than one that has a movement made in house, or even a modified one.
By looking at the clothes that they were wearing I’m saying this is probably an 80s in that amount of money could buy a house a decent house so sorry dad sorry pop up I’m selling that damn watch and buying myself a house paid for outright. Love you guys and thanks.
Bank of England inflation calculator suggests figure of over £110K. But,given how interest and market in valuable watches has grown since that was broadcast I would say much more particularly so because of rarity of movement.
If i remember correctly the E.U brought in a national minimum wage to be inline with the rest of Europe around 1992 of £3.60. So ill be using that as a refference. The monthly average wage based on 8x5x4. Was around 576, which means that a yearly wage was around 6900. Which means it would take lets say in an ideal world no loss of job consistant work very little sick days, and after N.I and Tax had been taken around 8-9 years to buy that watch.
To put it into context, in 1991 £50,000 would easily buy you a three bed semi... maybe even a detached house in the right part of the country, now it's not even the deposit.
Its no massive shock. The people take their stuff there and que for hours, would have been interviewed before the cameras came, id be more shocked if they said it was worthless
And that was way back in 1991! For comparison, the average house price in the UK was about 57,000 then. (I bought a terraced house in the mid 90s for less than 30k). I remember watching this when it first aired, and being astonished.
I love how these British appraisers try to make people feel like they're being greedy for having their items appraised. Meanwhile, life is so hard and people have all kinds of sudden expenses. There's such classism in their attitude. "I'm so well off, I would never dream of selling that Royal Oak!" Meanwhile, these people are collectibles DEALERS, who continually buy and sell valuable items. The hypocrisy! The appraisers in the US version of AR never do that, it's horribly insulting. Some people come to get insurance values, some just from idle curiosity, some to see that their stuff isn't fake. Nobody comes to be judged by a snotty stranger.
Would you pay that much for this watch?
5 shekels
No.
I wish I had that much for a watch. But yes! ha ha
Nothing! No one wears them anymore!
Yes.
For those of you that haven't spent time there, this is about as emotional as a Brit ever gets. He was seriously shocked and moved by the value.
Nowadays, they jump up and down and lot and exclaim "Woo, woo!".
@@golden.lights.twinkle2329 we don't do that i think you maybe thinking of americans
Raising an eyebrow is putting on a show, have some dignity
A wonderful watch. The owner was totally shocked when he got the valuation and I think many other people would be too. I hope he will have a good insurance for it and keep it safe.
The only thing that moves a brit is money
I'd call that a proper tank watch. Simply stunning!
Proper tank?😊
A minute repeater in that thin of a case. That's incredible!
Imagine how amazing they were in 1790's Paris when great watches were built by subscription.
@@wholeNwon As far as I know, there were literally 0 wrist watches in 1790?
@@ZesPak Funny. I was referring to the pocket watches of A. L. Breguet who invented a striking movement in 1783.
@@wholeNwon Yeah you tell him. What a prick.
My jaw dropped the moment i heard "minute repeater". This watch is priceless in todays market.
Especially considering the size of that thing
how much do you think as a rough guess
@@daburamajin-su4gv One recently was sold for 158,000 CHF. That's about 139,000 GBP, or 161,000 EUR. Great appriciation in value, considering 50,000 GBP from 1991 would be about 110,000 GBP today
what is so special about this minute repeater thing ?
@@votpavel Its not only one of the oldest watch complications, but also one of the most difficult and labour intensive. It chimes the time using miniature gongs which are controlled by a regulator and gearworks that calculate the time. A modern repeater can range from $100,000 to $20,000,000 depending on the brand and comolexity.
Dang grandpop was just strolling around with a minute repeater on his wrist. What an heirloom. Makes my collection that my son will inherit look pedestrian
I was about 16 when I saw that episode and I've always loved watches especially grande complications such as this this one. I was recently thinking of that very special square minute repeater and wondered if I'd ever see it again. Im delighted to see this video. I thought it was valued at £40k but it was £50k. I follow high end watch auctions and I've never seen a watch like it for sale but I'd reckon it would sell for £300k-£500k probably more. Those that say it's worth nothing don't know the market value of such things. Absolutely gorgeous piece.
That’s not a grand complication, it’s a time only watch that includes a minute repeater complication, and as remarkable as a minute repeater is, for a watch to be considered a grand complication, it has to include several complications besides just the minute repeater, like a chronograph, a perpetual calendar, power reserve, moon-phase etc etc.
@@johnpoulter could be a Jaeger-le Coultre. Remember they often supllied movements to the companies you mentioned in those days.
Quite a lot for an ebauche watch
A solid gold minute repeater is never going to be cheap.
what makes it very sought after, what is a minute repeater?
Saw that episode in 1991. Blown away by the valuation. Always stuck in my mind. To see the clip 33 yrs later, one wonders: a) where the watch is today b) what is its valuation today?
K bro how old are you like 90?
This is why we watch and love The Antiques Roadshow.
This watch is a masterpiece. Absolutely incredible to have that in the family.
He looks like a nice humble guy good luck to him
Congrats! It's nice to see good things happening to a good bloke.
Well....he didn't sell it. It is an heirloom so will stay in the family. Price really makes no difference to him.
How do you know he is a "good bloke"? Do you know him personally?
This time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires!
For reference 50k pounds in 1991 was about $85,000 USD. In todays dollars that would be about $190,000.
Assuming anybody would want this in today's market.
@@pjhelbig And why wouldn’t they? The rich have always got money to waste.
@@paulfitzgerald7513 They all have the flash without the bang
The watch market was dead in 1991, that watch is worth over £500k in todays market
My research says it would be worth £108,426 today, which would be $134,437.
My heart was racing the whole time ❤❤❤❤❤❤ 😅😅😅 and I gasped at the end. Gorgeous Gorgeous Gorgeous 😍
Never in a million years would I have guessed this watch had a minute repeater inside
When are you going to produce a reboot of a similar show, for watches only? The watch market has gained a lot of interest recently and I'm sure a lot of people would be keen on watching something like this today!
Nice idea but it'll never happen, the appeal of watches isn't broad enough to warrant a stand alone show, not on the BBC, however it might be possible on one of the freeview channels or online.
This footage is so old it can star in a newer antique roadshow.
😂
The way he spoke about the watch is the same way a chef talks about his food.
3:02 *Love how appraiser (dry even by British standards) totally head-fakes & stuns the owner.*
He suggested that the owner should consider selling it in the market given its assessed value. Because It would be difficult for people to sell off their family heirlooms even if they are worth thousands or millions unless they were cash stripped to the hilts.
He had no idea how beautiful his watch is.
I think the beauty is in the design of the internals and operation but to look at it I personally don't find it very visually appealing.
50K and he's opening it like he's shucking an oyster
Right? I almost spit out my coffee! (Even tiny pry marks can impact value.)
@@mulemule He knows more about watches than you are ever likely to… he knows exactly what he’s doing!
@@paulfitzgerald7513 True. Which makes his actions all the more unfortunate.
@@mulemule He’s an expert in his field, he won’t have damaged the watch at all…
Watch John goldberger open much more valuable ones with a cheese knife after rubbing it clean on his sleeve
I thought it was a banger BEFORE he said it was a minute repeater 🔥🔥🔥
In 1991, you could buy a house pretty comfortably for around £50k. A decent semi in a nice area.
That same house could be sold today in the U.K., for £250-350k.
Just shows the value and appreciation of assets at the right time.
Someone, elsewhere in the comments shows you the watch value in dollars and price equivalence today.
and have change
Exactly
These inflation comparisons while useful don’t give the whole picture
4 bed semi on my street would have probably been 30k back then
Now goes for 220k+
One sold in like 99 I think for 60
1991 was recession era too
A £50k house in 1991 is worth about £600k today 😅
@@marlonthomas8042 I think the recession bit was mid 90s with Major.
@@Jammil2477 dunno I was born early 80’s but I reneged everyone being broke when I grew up
You might be right though
Rodney trotters done well
Great watch ...
I have a Gubelin Ipso automatic and i can surely say the watch is a piece of Art
Not compareable at all to the minute repeating watch in the video!! It’s actually an Audemars Piguet watch retailed by Gübelin. Both case, dial, hands, and movement are manufactured and finished by Audemars Piguet. A minute repeating wristwatch made by Audemars Piguet, Vacheron&Constantin, or Patek Philippe, and retailed by Gübelin, Tiffany, or similar retailer would by worth from around 30.000 and up depending on condition. Back in the early 1900 there was a recession in the US, and taxes were laid upon imported luxury items. To avoid taxes high end swiss watch manufacturers either supplied movements or complete watches but not branded, and then they were sold with the retailers brand. In this case it’s a known Audemars Piguet model in original condition. Dial has not been reprinted/redialed, hands and crown original, and the case not overpolished. I agree wtih the valuation! Your Gübelin Ipso-matic is a common watch with a basic Eta cal.2472 movement. If its in 18k gold it’s worth the weight of gold no more.. Do not compare your watch to this watch..
@@jonathanjoensen2679 I did not compare my watch to this but for me personally yes my watch is much more beautiful I have a Gubelin Ipso-Matic Triple Calendar & Moonphase Automatic, cal.11 1/2 and yes it is in yellow gold and in terms of price it's priceless as it was given to me by my grandfather
@jonathanjoensen2679 I liked your detailed description of this watch. It was very interesting and informative, but I was disappointed to see you suggest that mpinto was comparing his watch to this watch in the show. Such a disingenuous and arrogant quip was un called for. It rather sowered your whole reply.
@@mpinto79 I’m glad to hear it holds a high affection value to you personally. I just wanted to point out that the minute repeating watch appearing in the video is comparable to a Ferrari branded as a Fiat. In fact the much sought after Ferrari 246 GTS Dino were originally only sold as Dino 246 GTS. They had 6 cylinder engines and Enzo figured they might harm the Ferrari brand if sold as Ferraris. The Dino name actually came from his son passing away tragically. For several decades owners put Ferrari badges on them despite the fact that they were sold without Ferrari badges. Then the tables turned! Collectors looking for original unmolested cars prefered cars without th Ferrari badge in as original state as possible. All of a sudden Dino 246 GTS owner were peeling the unoriginal Ferrari badges of again. In short at Dino 246 GTS with no Ferrari badge was selling for a premium price whilst same car with a Ferrari badge would sell for less😂
The minute repeating Audemars Piguet watch in the video is produced in a time when artisans working at AP had nothing but time to spare. The attention to detail and all handcrafted on the latte as CNC machining wasn’t available at the time is just stunning! Modern calibers from AP lack are nowhere near as detailed. As an example let’s have a look at the anglage applied on this movement. If you a avoid inner corners on the bridges most anglage can be applied with a handheld router. But as soon as we are talking inner corners it gets way more complexed to apply anglage. If you cut two pieces of profiled wood in a miter saw at a 45° degrees angle and match them together, you will notice that the profiled edges will also match up perfectly in a 90° angle. But if you have a router and try to route the profile on two 45° allready assembled pieces of wood you will notice that the profile will not go all the way into the 90° angle. There will always be a 1/4 arc left as the router bit is rotating an thus will leave an arc of material that will have to be chiselled away if you want the same appearance you would get from assembling two preprofiled pieces of wood cut in 45°. That problem is the same when applying angle (rounded edge) on the movement bridged. A router bit will always leave an arc and that arc can only be filed away by manual labour. Try it in a piece of soft wood and you will see how difficult it is to remove this arc of unwanted material and blackpolish the anglage edge. Some of the bridges would even have multible inner corners. If the anglager messed one corner he would have to throw the bridge in the trash can and start all over again. On top of that comes the Cotes de Geneve stripes that would have to be applied in such a manner that geneva stripes match up perfectly from bridge to bridge. If you screw of a bridge younwill notice it is numbered on the underside hence that only matching numbers will fit on the movement platin to reveal a consistancy in the geneva stripes. Today machines do a lot of this work and the finish is simplified imensly. That doesn’t mean that finish isn’t as good as it used to be. It means that there is significantly less timeconsuming finish applied to movements today compared to the past.
Nobody is reading that. Making an anology about a ferarri does not require half an essay.
A minute repeater that skinny? Christ alive! That's a find and a half! I hope he kept it.
What an awesome reaction :) I wonder where it ended up
For those who aren’t horology nerds, the minute repeater is the single most difficult mechanism to build into a watch
Had to look up what it even was. That is actually incredible to have resting on a wrist.
Used to be used for telling the time in the dark before lume paint
I don't feel like googling it, so what does the mechanism do? And explain it properly and promptly. Thanks.
WONDERFUL!!!
I knew the guy had it made as soon as I saw the movement calibre, the quality of finish and the expert confirmed it’s provenance as genuine. When he mentioned the minute repeater complication and it’s evolution by Patek, and Vacheron Constantin, just 2 of the 3 big names in the Swiss watchmaking ‘holy trinity’ (the other is Audemars Piguet) I knew it was something rare and very valuable. Then with it being sold by a highly reputable high end Swiss jewellery house - Gubelin along with their own name on the dial and alongside the jewellery hallmark reference within the case, it was always going to command a high valuation.
The fact alone that is a minute repeater puts it into the tens of thousands
This pro has a very strong clock game
nice watch
Christopher Walken can tell you the story of the watch.
Honestly? He was kind of an a^^-hole about it though. 🤷♂
😂😂
... He died of dysentery he gimme the watch...
the band isn’t original so…
😂
A minute repeater is crazy, especially in something this tiny and old.
Hope he didn't sell it, will be worth a fortune all these years later.
Bravo
Anyone casually removing and seemingly touching the movement on any of my watches is getting a thrashing.
Would be great if the Road Show could be done in the medieval town of Chillingbourne.
Gubelin so underrated today
Never saw such smaĺl minute repeteur !
And £50k in 1991?? In case anyone overseas was wondering, you could buy several houses for that in the UK back then.
Nowadays £50k isn’t enough for a deposit 😂
Beautiful movement 😍
I remember this
My fathers father wore it and passed it with love to my father and then him with love to me hoping id pass it to one of my children with the same love
Going going gone.
$50,000. That's insane.
My grandfather had a watch like this. I'm going to start digging for it now.
Adjusted for inflation it's about 107,000 pounds!
@@collisw8302 Good luck finding someone to pay you that amount. Its value is what someone is willing to pay for it.
@@revo1974 yeah you're probably right, I was just saying.
But also having something featured on the roadshow has been known to increase the sale value.
Also this dude said it was a family heirloom so he's probably never going to sell it.
@@revo1974 it’s hilarious when people like yourself announce information so boldly as if you are acquainted with high value rare items. People need to learn how to stay quiet when a subject they know nothing about is being brought up. It’s obvious you don’t collect, stay silent and don’t pretend you’re not broke. It’s value far exceeds 100,000 pounds
@@DukeMundi What’s hilarious is when someone on the internet makes claims about another person without knowing anything at all about them, such as you have. Everything I wrote is factually. I own numerous high end watches. My most valuable is a VC Overseas. Finding a buyer of a high value classical watch is very difficult. And once again it’s value-the value of anything for that matter-is what someone is will to pay you for it.
Thats £140,000 roughly today...
1991, “ let’s hope the market stays that way”😂haha
50k, back then HUGE
Back when people were not as protective with their timepieces, a lot of patina for a 50 K GBP watch. The bracelet appears to be after-market, no guff.
Nothing sounds smarter than a British dude who smacks his lips while waxing poetic. Awesome stuff
Beautiful timepiece. Wonder what the value would be today in 2023. If anyone knows a rough value please do reply! Would love to know
Somebody else said close to $200,000 usd
@@AnthonySmith-sc4zs I thought too
When was this filmed?
So this was from 1991. To try and put it in perspective with today's prices, think how much house could be bought for 50k back then? Impressive.....
Well done Rodney
0:02 He can say that again.
I will go 50 bucks, and not a penny more. Sweet! Go write him up Chum
😂😂
Awesum......
Still a lesson worth learning……a watch’s true value depends what powers it. So many high end (high priced) Swiss watches have the same movement as others less fashionable, thus cheaper.
Also a dial
in this case it’s an Audemars Piguet watch! Both case, dial/hands, and movement is manufactured by Audemars Piguet and retailed by Gübelin(most likely to the US market in early 1920) Common practise back the as a recession in US meant that taxes were layed upon imported luxury items. In a way to avoid taxes high end Swiss watch manufacturers supllied either complete watches (like in this case) or a a high grade movement. Thus the item was considered an US manufactured item not deemed to be taxed. But not all Gübelin, Tiffany etc watches are valuable..
@@jonathanjoensen2679 I should have read you comment before I found the watch in a hodinkee article, that watch is in the AP archives/museum, interesting to know how many there are and what the value might be, you know or any idea ?
@Lee Tell that to Hublot
No there's a number of factors. Maker, design, movement, features, complications etc.
If a watch has a mass produced movement like an entry level ETA, then it would be worth less than one that has a movement made in house, or even a modified one.
50 thousand = put it up for auction !
Rick from Pawn stars would offer you $75.00 US dollars and he would take all the risk!!
He would have to clean it up and it’s going to sit around for a long time. That’s the best he can do.
Anyone know the year/model number of this watch?
This watch has been in my family for years. ...How much is it worth?! Sold!
Why not !
My mother-in-law is a minute repeater... she needs to eat every minute, bless her 300 lb. heart.
In today’s terms, that’s probably £250k!
Antique Road Show should help people out in UA-cam. Of what items we found. Some things are hard to figure if it is antique or mass produced
a marvelous proposal!
'I never joke, double o seven'...
Minute repeaters are kinda special they're not all that common they're UNGODLY complicated
I’d give a good full moonie for it
And just like that, another family heirloom was sold off.
Da Host sounded like He would love to have that Watch!!
He never gave it back.
This was back in the 90s
I estimate that 50k back then would be worth at least 130k today.
How much is it worth now?
3:16 I'll just collect my jaw from the floor
By looking at the clothes that they were wearing I’m saying this is probably an 80s in that amount of money could buy a house a decent house so sorry dad sorry pop up I’m selling that damn watch and buying myself a house paid for outright. Love you guys and thanks.
So in 2023 it's easily worth over 100k. Incredible.
Bank of England inflation calculator suggests figure of over £110K. But,given how interest and market in valuable watches has grown since that was broadcast I would say much more particularly so because of rarity of movement.
I wonder why the dial had no maker's mark.
A white gold minute repeater made by Audemars Piguet for Gubelin... how much will it be worth today?!
To me, $100.
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£50k back then could have bought you a four bedroom detached house, wouldn’t even cover a deposit today
29 jewels= top end
So small! It's a minute minute repeater.
Was it sold ? 50,000 in 1991 was a lot.
£ 137,141 today according to a calculator for 1991. But I expect prices have changed. I just hope he sold the watch then.
@@Jo-yp8wy fingers crossed he did Jo 🤞
I think this fella just swallowed a tooth when he was told about the 50k.
That could be a life changing sum of money to the right person; it's not just a watch, it is a non-performing asset that can be utilized.
What year was this? Looks like late 80s fifty grand then must surely be worth around 200 now.
1991, it tells you in the video description.
1947. The description is wrong.
If i remember correctly the E.U brought in a national minimum wage to be inline with the rest of Europe around 1992 of £3.60.
So ill be using that as a refference.
The monthly average wage based on 8x5x4. Was around 576, which means that a yearly wage was around 6900.
Which means it would take lets say in an ideal world no loss of job consistant work very little sick days, and after N.I and Tax had been taken around 8-9 years to buy that watch.
To put it into context, in 1991 £50,000 would easily buy you a three bed semi... maybe even a detached house in the right part of the country, now it's not even the deposit.
Filmed in 1991 when fifty thousand was fifty thousand.
Thats about 250,000 pounds, or a small house in the North of England in todays money.
And this must have been filmed 25-30 years ago….
1991 as per description
Opening the watch with his little knife is like saying “I’ll open the engine compartment of this McLaren F1 with a crowbar”
Today it's probably worth way more than that
The UK
Today 2023 150thousand dollars,, my estimate, i dont know might be more, maybe less
Wow about €120,000 in todays money
I'd like to know the value of the bowl used to cut all the men's hair? It's got to have some value right 🤔
Its no massive shock. The people take their stuff there and que for hours, would have been interviewed before the cameras came, id be more shocked if they said it was worthless
So would've the owner! He was hoping for a large figure.
£50,000?????😮
And that was way back in 1991! For comparison, the average house price in the UK was about 57,000 then. (I bought a terraced house in the mid 90s for less than 30k). I remember watching this when it first aired, and being astonished.
I love how these British appraisers try to make people feel like they're being greedy for having their items appraised. Meanwhile, life is so hard and people have all kinds of sudden expenses. There's such classism in their attitude. "I'm so well off, I would never dream of selling that Royal Oak!" Meanwhile, these people are collectibles DEALERS, who continually buy and sell valuable items. The hypocrisy! The appraisers in the US version of AR never do that, it's horribly insulting. Some people come to get insurance values, some just from idle curiosity, some to see that their stuff isn't fake. Nobody comes to be judged by a snotty stranger.