Lars Ulrich Was Insecure About His Drumming Until "And Justice For All"
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- Lars Ulrich Was Insecure About His Drumming Until "And Justice For All"
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Lars was incredible on justice, not because he’s a drum phenomenon but more that he’s a very smart creative person. I think black album was probably a relief for him that he could sit back and kick a simple groove.
No, i think it dawned on him that it's not a good idea to edit yourself into a corner where you can't actually play the shit you've recorded....
@@mymodel6 bingo I takes 10 takes to get dyers eve down and a bunch of splices. And then you scratch your head and you're like how the hell am I supposed to play this live.
@@thehellion8619 Charlie Watts was a great drummer too. Let's not make it a stupid 'who's the best at whatever' and enjoy plethora of different styles and have boldness to cross boundries!
@@ltrzepalko Charlie Watts is a fucking joke, luckiest man alive, then Ringo..
@@thehellion8619 I wish more than anything else in music that Lombardo had joined Metallica after the Black album. It might have saved them creatively, and made every live show since, actually worth going to...
Lars’s drumming from kill ‘em all to the black album is his greatest work. In my opinion.
For a guy who learned his instrument on the fly at such a young age, thrown into the deep end like that, he did alright.
Yeah true but imagine if he really applied himself. If you get that good by winging it you may be wasting potential by not reaching for the ceiling so to speak.
He did more than alright
Lars drums on Justice was SO good that it completely cancels out the bass sound. Amazing.
Lmao 🤣
🤣🤣🤣 yup he's a genius! 😆
Dats cos its fooking met-alwica
🤦🏻♂️
you should cry louder
I love Lars! He's innovative, creative, has great groove and swing, he's unorthodox and comes in on the upbeat, he's a great songwriter, arranger, and businessman, he's very intelligent, his drive is unmatched, and it's fun and entertaining as hell to watch him play. And I also find his haters amusing. They follow him around and watch all of his videos and leave the same 3 insults on a loop. They’re dedicated!
Well said!
@@dmitryowens 👍🏼👊🏼🤘🏼🍻
@@MikeysMorgue
Mikey likes it - he likes it! 😎
@@dmitryowens Life cereal.. 😆
@@MikeysMorgue "has great groove and swing" when he's able to play on time, eventually...
Lars gets a lot of criticism but those critics fail to see the bigger picture.
He’s the driving force of one of the most successful bands in history, in all genres.
Without Lars there’s no Metallica.
That's true. But if we look at the drumming, we can see that he's rough around the edges. Also, he'll change time signatures in circles around you. He can hear that crap.
And the more I've listened to his playing as of late, I do wish for some flashiness in there sometimes, but then, so many metal drummers do that just to do it. Whereas I think Lars is, what you might call, a smart drummer. Like, what's my job here, is it to be a big-ego drummer or do the rigfht thing by this band? We musicians can be so egotistical about our shit and in a sense you can tell Lars dials back. Of course, that's until you dial in the snare in the mix, but... You know.
I am sick of this argument. One cannot criticise his horrible way of playing drums without having to listen to all this non-drum related bs.
And i mean, the fact he had just recently bought his drum kit is straight up impressive
@@Jayteaseepiirturiyou mean when you're a come lately like yourself... Nobody criticize Lars drumming in the early years... Only the internet generation talks crap
I am a what now?
Lars style is perfect for Metallica.
He plays with the riff, his arrangements, his ear for putting songs together is brilliant!
Because someone isn't trained in a conventional way, doesn't make them crap.
Sometimes it's better not being taught in a conventional way, because they're not restricted by certain, 'rules '.
Tony! 👍🏼👊🏼🤘🏼
He also added to the punk rock vibe to the type of metal that became thrash. Just go for it? Blitzkrieg!
This is bullshit, he is a shitty drummer becuase he stop pushing himself and practicing. He hasn't improved his skills in a long time and always had issues with his tempo, Lars used to use his high energy and cocaine filled body to push the tempo to the max, that worked with he was young, but after his youth was over he didnt had any skills replace that. Lars pushed himself when he was out there feeling the pressure of Benante and Lombardo, it was good for the band and good for Lars as a musician, the minute he felt comfortable he went to shit.
Best comment ever
@@MikeysMorgue Hi mate. 🤟👍
Great interview! Lars is so cool and down-to-earth, but also very confident, driven and ambitious and focused.
For A Dude that only took the Drums casually for the early part of his Career, I thought his work on Kill ‘Em All was already pretty impressive. I just love how he drums on instances like the Four Horsemen verses (incorporating Double Kick), his fills and expressions during the bridge for Phantom Lord, His Groove overall in No Remorse, etc.
I dunno. Though amateurish as it may be, it felt like their was Some Personality and Spunk in his playing there, especially with how considerably tight he was with the band in the recording.
I agree
Nah. It's the worst of both worlds. It's simple drumming without soul.
@@captainjefferies9047you're just flat out wrong. He's a great drummer with plenty of soul lmao. God you edgy fucks just hate him bc it's trendy to
@@captainjefferies9047I'd be willing to bet you can't even play drums
@@pnut3844able You being wrong doesn't interest me.
He still influenced me to pick up drums
I'm Curious which song was the tipping point for you
@@martinkuliza I can't recall what made me decide to drum but, I was 11. That was 21 years ago. I remember the first time hearing Metallica. My cousin played Seek and Destroy and it gave me goosebumps and I've a major fan ever since.
@@barra6709
I'm not a drummer, i'm a guitarist, for me it was since 14.
as far as drum parts are concerned, Obviously the Double kick on ONE was cool
but for me it was Leper Messiah
The main drum line on Leper Messiah, My fucking God (Beyond Words)
How long did you hold them? Was it a bend at the knee affair, or are you a livin on the edge one hander?
Same, and influenced my style greatly. I guarantee most people who say he sucks have never touched drum sticks in their lives.
Lars’ drumming on Justice was top notch in my opinion. I still am blown away with some of his fills on that album!
i bet… hate to lay it on ya.. But all that shit was pro tools.. he didnt replicate any of that shit live.. Go watch the Seattle live show from 89…
@@superdave452 it wasn’t protools man. Protools wasn’t even invented until 1990. They recorded everything analogue in the 1980’s. Lars is just a bit lazier live than he is in the studio. But that was all legit Lars hitting those drums on Justice
@@mattwatts33 facts
@@superdave452 you should probably delete this comment. Pro Tools didn't even exist. Every note was played by Lars. They spliced tape together from the best takes on every instrument, as all bands did, but it wasn't on Pro Tools lol. Everything was analog.
By the way, his drumming in Seattle '89 is even more impressive than on the studio album. Faster, more aggressive, and every bit as difffiuclt. Hearing the songs played note for note as they were on the album is pretty boring, and most bands don't even try to do that. By your metric, Led Zeppelin must be the worst band in history, because they were notorious for off the wall live shows that took liberties with their studio recordings.
@@superdave452 I hate to lay it on ya.. But yeah you're wrong! You should delete your comment before more people come in and correct you. Don't hate on Lars Bro! He's not watching over 40 years of your accomplishments!
During their prime, no one was considering Lars as a bad drummer, it would have been absurd to hear that. There were already brilliant metal drummers, much more technical, but metal music was not as obsessed with complexity than today.
Lars's drumming is the sound of Metallica, as much as James's guitar. His work and sound on the black album is still today one of my very favorites. A great rock drummer, from a time when metal and rock were the same thing
I also think having a very artistic band member who is providing a goldmine of talented riffs and songwriting to the mix is what made them rise from the sea of no name bands along with lars's networking social and business headed skills pushed them on quickly up the ladder.
His Drumming was absolutely brilliant in the Justice Era after cliffs death and the was Jason’s first experience after 43 after cliff died while Jason continued to tour the damage Inc tour in 1986 until 1987.
It is pretty amazing to form your band in Oct 81 and less than 2 years later be recording your first album and be on a proper tour.
people question his talent, didnt practice ever, proceeds to write a drumming masterpiece album, and justice for all
Im glad to read all this love for Lars. He's not the best but he's overhated and underrated. Whether you love him or not, he is one of the most influential drummers of all time. Without Lars, there would be no Metallica or Megadeth and the millions of inspired musicians who spawned thousands of bands. How about 3 generations of over a billion fans. Thank you Lars 🤘
He was lucky to meet janes, dave and cliff.
All the things the band members regret about Justice are the very things that make it my favourite of their albums. I even think it sounds great.
great to listen to. got over hearing the interviewer say a pre recorded "yeah" though.
From what I understand Lars had a lot of involvement with the band than just the music. That's a lot of stress for a young man in the music industry and scene. Mad props to Lars musical abilities but all his other efforts to help and protect the band 👏👏👏👏🏁
he's one of the smartest business minds in music, one of the big reasons metallica is as big as it is, he took an awesome band and made it into a billion dollar brand.
Not the best drummer, but no one should care - he formed Metallica and made it what it is today. He even 'stole' the goddamn legendary name of the band. He literally IS Metallica.
He don't gotta be the best drummer. He's the best drummer for Metallica because like you said he IS Metallica. There is so much more to being a good musician than chops on your instrument. His arrangement skills have always been amongst his strong suits.
Perfectly put & his style is what made Metallica so unique.
he is metallica, He and James make metallica sound like Metallica.
The music that's being produced is what matters. End of story.
Justice is not only the greatest thing they ever recorded but imho i could be the greatest Metal Album of all time, its that good. The title track alone i mean wt? insane!
For the first time ever I'm going to agree and take the position that And Justice For All is Metallica's best release. There isn't one bad song. In fact every song, yes every single track aren't just good. They're Tony the motherfuckin tiger you can't fuck with it GREAT!
Starts STRONG and stays STRONG. I LOVE the first three and they're all start to finish great too
BUT
Justice is the one that takes it all the way there.
Maybe Jason's bass had a harder time battling for Frequency with Cliff than with James. Because although the bass is silent Cliff is all over all of these songs.
The Black album was Jason's debut as a recording bassist with Metallica
It's the greatest album of all time, period.
I‘m a 15 yr old drummer, I’ve got an amazing drums teacher who keeps telling me how much potential and talent I have and yet I keep doubting my skills. ofc I can always get better and I absolutely will cause I want to get better all the time I just love the thought of not only being good but GREAT at the instrument I love so much. This video really just kind of encouraged me and assured me that it’s normal to feel like that and knowing one of my fav drummers has been insecure about his skills as well gives me even more motivation to get better. I don’t know it’s just nice to hear (:
Like you I'm a drummer, I started playing around 15. I'm 50 now and have been getting back into playing after decades away from the instrument. I encourage you to put in the effort to learn your rudiments now while your young. I was young and in a hurry to learn how to play and I made the mistake of skipping my rudiment practice. BIG MISTAKE. Knowing how to play a proper double stroke roll, paraddidles, and even a clean, precise single stroke roll is ESSENTIAL to being a good drummer. While they can be tedious and difficult to master, rudiments are what makes the difference between a good drummer and an average, limited one. Take the time to learn them now and the possibilities are endless. I hope you get all the enjoyment in the world with your instrument.
I love all the long pauses at first while he is telling his story. So um, yeah, so, it's really hard to find, well you know, the words, words to explain, and how long it took me to not, really, you know what I mean, suck as much. 😂
What a phenomenal life journey this guy has had
Even in 91 OK, it always brought something new, some shift. the other albums are already kind of cycled, nothing that would stir me up. But form Jump - to Black album, all them in my heart..Changed the metal scene.
I love Lars mann!!! Even beyond the whole JUSTICE DRUMS vs. BASS thing!!! Hes a sweet guy and he can slay the drums!!! With no Lars.... there would've been no 'Tallica.
Theres a few bands, without that 2nd DFL person!!! The singer guitarist would've just been a face in a sea of a million
He is such a great drummer. No he will not win drum offs, but his song writing and arrangements are legendary.
He might on this album
I love the honesty. Lars always had tons of personality and ego, so, for him to be so forthcoming is very cool. In the early days it was easy to see he was the least talented at his instrument, but, he worked hard and got better.
Lars was a Beast in Metallica ,,Phil animal, Tommy Lee, Tommy Aldridge most drummers never admitted how much these drummers probably influence them wether big or small in the drummin world,,,
just goes to shows once again to us all that you can have such amount of talent lets say 99 percent talent but 1 percent energy and u won't make it far. put in the time and energy to your dreams 99 percent of that with you 1 percent of talent and you will make it further at least. Hard work and cositency every and any day over talent
That makes so much sense now explains what happened with his decision on the justice mix,
Even before Justice, he was a very solid drummer for what Metallica needed. Got the job done. That being said, the Justice stuff is very influencial - the beats, the fills, and the drum production all very iconic. Lars truly is the Ringo of metal. His drum parts are probably the most memorable in history when it comes to heavy music.
One of the best metal drummers ever. Sure there's faster an more technical but he knows how to lock the rest of the band in better then many others. True genius 👏
Justice drumming is the pinnacle of drums, of course there are better drummer technicians then Lars but in Justice the drumming are perfectly embedded in the songs,thank you Lars.
Where can I find the rest of this interview?
Lars's "illogical" drumming is one of the most influential practices Ive ever heard someone use an instrument (danskjävel)
def influenced me as a drummer/percussionist growing up
up there with Bonham/Peter Criss/Tommy Ramone etc for sure when it comes to pure influence and style
dejlig, Lars
- en svensk
His drumming on justice was brilliant .
I love Lars ! ❣️🌸❣️
That’s what it takes the belief you can do it. I had a band day 1 of playing bass. You just do it.
Not every other guy/gal can pick an instrument and learn it himself/herself and immediately afterwards start recording and performing live in such a short period of time.
This guy indeed is really talented but he has actually never given much BucK about how he does with drumming or if he is one of the best drummers out there. He'd liked being lazy throughout some periods and lately he's been doing a very good job during live performances in the last 5-6 years.
He was heavily criticized in the early 2000's but as a 40 years old guy I remember how people were amazed with what he had done in Justice album and many drummers in that era around 90's were learning and practicing those songs just like rudiments.
I think Lars' attitude about drumming never changed, to his detriment. - Look I have nothing against him, he's even been a huge inspiration to me, but he really went downhill after like 2000 or something. - What's worse is that one thing he said not that long ago kinda explained it, and that's that he claims that he doesn't like to sit and practice by himself. That's not what you want to hear from either a "professional" "musician" or someone you look up to. It's just not a good thing and you can hear it in his playing. - That said, with all the criticism he's undoubtedly aware of, it kinda seems like he started practicing on his own in the recent few years, and he probably had to to keep up with all the stuff they play.
He once was one of the most influential drummers, basically "by accident" as he never took it so seriously, but that's quite amazing considering the stuff he put on some records. - They even got to the point where it became too complex, because they claimed they found the "Justice" material too convoluted to keep playing and got sick of it a month into touring with it. That's probably the reason they didn't play a lot of it, except for 'One' and "Harvester", for so long, and of course that "Justice Medley" on the "Roam Tour". - Lars even left out a fill that he would normally play twice on 'One' and then just stopped doing, if you didn't realize it, probably because he couldn't do it properly.
And I can attest to it, because I played those songs obsessively as a teenager, almost daily, both on guitar and drums, and they became a boring drag to play properly. And by that I mean because it takes so much energy for all the little details to get right and do it with power as well, and they're mostly long songs too, nothing under 5-6 minutes, some even 7-9 or whatever. - I started almost disliking those songs as a FAN, so I get where they were coming from.
But anyway, some people bash on these guys really hard for not playing well, and yea, they have their shortcomings, straight up, and they know they're not the best at their instruments. But they enjoy playing, and people should realize they're basically "self taught" and they just do what they like and can. - Again, it's still quite amazing what, at least at one point, they achieved for just being a bunch of teens and fans of other bands who just played away on their instruments.
By the way, by the sound of it, this interview is from the press for the "Black Album" right?... Cause he talks about how he simplified his drumming, which was indeed what he kept saying he wanted to do on that album, just to keep things more "groovy" and not as complex. - And I think his work on that is still fantastic. My favorite playing of his is probably on 'S&M', and also his stuff on 'St. Anger' is very creative, don't make any mistake about that. - I just don't care much for most stuff on the three albums after. On 'Death Magnetic', sure, but the two after... Nah, most of those doesn't do it for me anymore.
Love watching Metallica clips from the early years, brings back so many memories when I first heard them back in 85. I was 12 years old and the metal head kids called themselves "Stoners" lol. I had the long hair jean jacket and patches all over it and plaid shirt under it. Metallica turned me into metal head Stoner at 12 and still am a metal head Stoner at 50 LOL
In my opinion Lars proved himself on "And Justice"🙏🙏🙏
Lars was almost booted from the band after The Master of Puppets tour, thats never really come out to a major degree but Metallicas history was very close to being drastically different.
If lars would have been booted from metallica back then, there would have been the cosmic heavy metal courtroom battle of the ages for the rights to the name metallica, and they would have ended up breaking up
What year was this interview?
I'm guessing during the black album era
For the fact that Lars admits he isn’t great…. James wasn’t sure if he wanted to be vocals or guitar….. Dave” so talented “ was booted…… Kirk arrives with his waah and arguably sucks compared to most…… and Cliff only joining the band if he was able to use his bass solo on album is one of the reasons Metallica is so intriguing. True underdogs creating a new genre of music 🎶 becoming the biggest metal band of all time is quite remarkable. I seriously love when people say that each individual in the band sucks. It’s like a championship sports team that has no good athletes. Metallica grabbed me in the mid 80s and they will always be my favorite band
"I can learn this shit in 10 days." :D I love it. After 30 years I'm still not sure I can play guitar. :P
The drums on Lightning were amazing, it just to technology a while to be able to fully reveal what Lars was actually playing.
That album was some of the best drumming ever.
I love his drumming. Dude is funny also. Just a Sarcastic little Dane. 😂
Translation: I realized Het was a generational talent and could be my ticket to the big time
The tape editor on Justice should get the biggest award possible in metal....
He was so insecure he forgot where the ride cymbal was
Anyone that says Lars sucks on the Drums is just Jelly, Lars is a Beast on those Drums and Metallica's Music proves it!!
Lars resurgence lets go! 🤘
Why doesn’t he step back, become the Manager and let them get Dave Lombardo on drums?
Step1 Join a band Step 2 Put out some of the most awesome music ever Step 3 Take drum and guitar lessons
People shit on Lars now due mostly to albums like Load and St. Anger but And Justice, for it's time, was a revolutionary metal drumming album. From the mix on the kit to the off time fills, to the speed of Dyers Eve, Lars had it all. Compared to other well known metal drummers of the '80's, there were very few who could hang with Lars at that time.
I’ve never heard criticism of drumming on Load.
Had great fills and the drumming fit the music
Kirk was taking lessons with Joe Satriani while Lars was taking lessons with the dude at the local music store.
So tired of the Lars haters. The guy crushed it on MoP and Justice. He was a mega influence on countless young drummers in the mid-late 80s. He's still touring around the world to sold out arenas.
3:45 James looks like Gary Busey
I don’t know if Lars gets enough credit for this, but there probably wouldn’t be any Metallica today were it not for him. It may be fair to say that Lars was the one who kept things from completely derailing after Cliff passed away. Lars takes a lot of criticism for different things, and perhaps rightly so. But nobody is perfect, and we have to remember that Master of Puppets really could’ve been the last we ever heard from Metallica.
World record: most songwriting credits without writing a single riff or lyric
"...christmas 1881. ..." it took him only 106 years to reach AJFA level
80...81
Wherever he said....I don't think it was him on the recording of justice
Lars always was a great drummer.
Lars may not be the best drummer in Metallica, but he's the best drummer for Metallica
Well...
"Yeah" 😂
Lars Ulrich & Vinnie Paul.
my most favourite Drummers of all time. 🥁 ❤🤘
do more research, lol, Google Clive Burr, check out Nick Menza, or Gar Samuelson
I imagine this is how Meg White felt
his father is Rasputin?
Lmao
That chick in the right at 1:20 is super cute😍😍😍
Ironically, his drumming didn't start to actually suck and be boring basic until after that album.
His drum parts on justice were heavily edited from multiple takes
You don't have to be a great technical drummer to be a legend. In life there's always someone out there better than you. Who cares??? Lars rocks it and Metallica started something special! Cut him some slack haters out there
Yes, Lars butchers the old songs these days but.....he is absolutely correct about AJFA. I was drumming at an early age and when I heard this album it blew me away. Just trying to memorize all of the different varying fills was an undertaking!!
🤘🏽😅
That's crazy Lars literally learn to drum in Metallica not before😅
kinda how it works bud not much crazy about it and this clown is far from a "drummer"
If it weren’t for James, Lars would be scooping up balls at a girls high school Jr varsity tennis match.
Now you seem like cousins and ambassador'
AJFA is the only Metallica album I listen to anymore but if you watch any interview with the producer/engineer the drum parts are heavily edited together from multiple (hundreds) of takes. It's the modern day equivalent of fake UA-cam drummers editing footage together to appear far better than they are. I in no way think Lars is a bad drummer but let's call a spade a spade here.
In all honesty if I got just a tad better I'd be almost as good as Lars and I'm just a regular guy😅 oh well I'll never do for drumming what he has so it doesn't matter
If anything he's living proof that you don't have to be a prodigy to be a successful musician.
I am still convinced Lars did not write the drum tracks on Kill Em All, listen to that album and Ride The Lightning immediately after, can you tell the difference?
Funny how his best drumming was when he was "Insecure" 🤣
While I don't care for what he did after their big break, I really like the 80's Lars as a drummer and Metallica would not be Metallica without him...for two obvious reasons 😉
Lars is THE BEST drummer of Metallica😂😂😂 and no dubt for all Metallica fans! ❤🤘🤘💪💪
And then Lars would get comfy and decline. He needed the pressure to perform well.
I'm still insecure now
i bet he was insecure... he was going to be fired before cliff died. But then when cliff passed his place was a lock.
Lars is poi-fect for Metallica!!!
xoxo The Clarences
So basically the best music Metallica made was when Kirk and Lars were insecure and were taking lessons so they could sound better and impress people. Ok. How do we get them back to that state of mind?
He was insecure until he stopped giving a shit, really :D
He is much better drummer than hammet is guitarist
Ironically Justice was their last good album
Funny...I thought he'd still be insecure about his "drumming ". Monkey chime!
Lars is probably the only drummer in history to get progressively worse as time goes on.
Sadly he became to confortable and went to shit.
i stole a few tricks from lars i guess... hes not awful but hes not so great either.