Lakers' Coaching List, Teams Extend LA Targets, Building Around Anthony Davis, Darvin Ham Fallout
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Want an extension on your contract? Just leak that the Lakers want to hire you! Trevor Lane discusses the coaches on the Lakers' list of options whose incumbent teams are playing keep-away, plus building a roster around Anthony Davis at power forward or center as well as AD's rising power in the organization, Darvin Ham firing fallout in the mailbag and more...
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AD has been right about playing center the whole time. Minnesota is using the formula that the Lakers did that one season AND surprise it’s working!!!!
Bam right on the money! The fact the organization went away from what was working makes 0 sense..AD is not A damn center
🎯
Lakers decision makers have egg on their face now. Too bad you can’t ever get rid of incompetent people in power.
Wolves basically the 2020 Lakers - 3 big man, good wing defenders, and a floor general in Conley just like Lakers had Rondo. 2020 Lakers were No.1 defense that year and so is the Wolves this year. They winning the chip!
This is facts right here. If they had signed Naz Reid instead of Gabe Vincent and picked up another big plus trade AR for dejounte it would've been a completely different story.
Time to mend fences with Jerry West and get this franchise back on top.
Want to get it right? Hire Bob Meyer as GM and let him hire the coach.
Pelinka needs to be on the hot seat
As badly we need to get rid of polenta its never happening. Bob is happy as a ESPN talking head
How sean Davis bread Coach Loss Angeles Lakres
Please lord not Bud or JJ. please Jeannie hear my prayers
She let magic walk because she wouldn’t fire Rob, Jenny is drunk lol
Prince is the kind of player teams need,his versatility is what makes him special!
Yep, not a star but a staple bench player that every team needs. He filled so many gaps and played above and beyond his contract this year.
He should have gotten like 15 - 20 minutes off the bench, occasional starting. Darvin over exposed him.
Prince is a solid rotation player. He'd be a reliable shooter off the bench in 20 mpg. Hopefully they can bring him back.
Needs to make extra pass but he aight
Folks be acting like Prince a bum ...he'd go to another team and thrive
Myles Turner the perfect fit next to AD
Wolves basically the 2020 Lakers - 3 big man, good wing defenders, and a floor general in Conley just like Lakers had Rondo. 2020 Lakers were No.1 defense that year and so is the Wolves this year. They winning the chip!
???? They had a chance....him an Howard the Lakers would have beat Denver
Idk why the lakers arent considering Phil Handy, he is the perfect candidate in my opinion he can help the young guys develop like Rui,Austin Max and Jalen, and he has the continuity with the front office, players he has Brons and AD respect and during the playoffs he looked like he was trying his hardest to coach while not stepping on Hams toes, i saw in game 5 he had way more emotion and was coaching up the team way more then Darvin to me he should be the head coach
If he was like that he’d have a job.
I'm not sure Handy wants to be a Head Coach. I think he likes working with a lot of diff players and you dont get a chance to do that as a HC.
Phil dosen't want to be a head coach
@@zachnotzack4 he wasn't ready to be a head coach he admitted as much, last year was the first time he actually acknowledged the want to in being a head coach this will be probably the first time he will seriously consider in interviews and putting his name out there
@@ShowtimeLakersbaby808that was the case last year he was asked by reporters and he said he feels he's ready now to step in and become a head coach
Bob Myer and Mark Jackson can get things back on track.
Lakers need to get rid of pelinka. Makes the organization look a fool you had kyrie before his stock rised back up but u questioned his availability now you want him. You had Tyrone lue but you wanted to line up his contract with lebron but now you want lebron to sign extension and now want lue again hes not wasting his time cant double back after peopl prove they worth should of took advantage
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!! I'm still fuming about that smfh
If coach Bud is Darvin Ham SR, Charles Lee is Darvin Ham JR, no way stay away from him
I went back & watched the Ham being introduced as Lakers head coach press conference. Ham mentions Bud at least 10 times, and how much the guy meant to him. How ironic, actually how funny it would be if the Lakers hired Bud. So silly!
😂
The Celtics coaching tree are better than the bucks coaching tree both miki bud and ham can't call timely timeouts
@@jomarigaa3300we are that desperate for a coach we have to cross over to a RIVAL for one? Pretty sad indeed…
I had to laugh at what the Clips & Mavs have done since Lakers fired Ham.
I like Atkinson. He got the poop end of the stick with the Nets when they decided to go the Durant/Kyrie route. He's got a passion & understanding of the game. Although, I doubt he would take the job. There's a more pressing need. Get a GM that knows what he is doing. Pelinka needs to go.
Trevor’s analysis on AD is 100% spot on - we don’t need a true big center to consistently play the 5 for 25-30mpg, we need a decent big center who can SOMETIMES play 30min in a given matchup and sometimes play only 10-15min in a given matchup. Someone like Jaxson Hayes isn’t dependable enough to play for 30min against quality playoff opponents. We need to find that perfect middle/lower tier center who gives us this versatility with a level of dependability. Jonas is too expensive I think and also he doesn’t have good mental temperament when he’s not playing consistent minutes and isn’t getting his shot attempts. Need a more unselfish center
Problem is it'll be hard for whoever you play at center to get and stay in a rhythm when your starting them and playing them 30mins 1 night then hes coming off the bench for 15 mins the next.
It’s working for timber wolves running Rudy and Kat
No. We need a 7footer who can play 20/25 mph ALONGSIDE AD and LBJ. LOOK AT MIN. They’re essentially taking our blueprint from 2020 and adding hormones since their bigs can shoot. Size matters. Don’t let her tell you it doesn’t.
Capela perhaps
@@haywood0457don’t matter if you’re hung like a needle, as long as you poke like a sewing machine. Size doesn’t matter, in that regard😂
Hire an experienced coach, then hire JJ and Rajon as assistant so they can feel the ropes for their first year.
Hire Mark Jackson
The NBA don’t want it
If Lebron want to win a championship
@@lindellgiles2573why Mark Jackson? Can we move on from him plz?
Rondo has legal problems weapons and drug charges in Indiana.
It's up to the new head coach to hire his own assistants to run his system.
@@peterparker2981 why not 🤦🏾♂️
U can - I’m not 😂
The Lakers are interested hiring me as their new HC.
Wolves basically the 2020 Lakers - 3 big man, good wing defenders, and a floor general in Conley just like Lakers had Rondo. 2020 Lakers were No.1 defense that year and so is the Wolves this year. They winning the chip!
hire JJ Reddick, but hire some guys with head coaching experience as his assistant. also hire Rondo as an assistant. he can take on the role J Kidd had on the 2020 coaching staff. also bring back Phil Handy
That's torture for a head coach
Yea im sure former head coaches would love to work with a first time coach 😂
I like that
Lakers front office never has a plan. I get it if some great coach was out there. They will just take a journeyman coach who will be no better than Darvin. As a laker fan right now the lakers management are embarrassing. We are becoming a joke as a franchise.
The Lakers blew it with Lue and he's not going to leave. Pelinka has done a bang up job.
The problem is that most of the NBA hates Pelinka. It’s not the Lakers so much as Rob. He develop a (justified) reputation as a liar and a snake when he was repping.
Lue couldn’t get the Flippers out the first round just like Ham. 😆
Mark Jackson
"Mama there goes that man" NO !!!!!!!! he's a horrible announcer and an even worse coach !!!!!!!!!!!
I have a feeling it’s going to be Coach Bud. He’s a “Championship Coach” after all.
A glorified Darvin Ham
Please no
32:25 Trevs been on point with the comedic jabs lately😂😂😂😂
You make it sound like coaching the Lakers is such a desirable position. It's a death march to unemployment.
@@SilverBored20So stand here and tell us with a straight face that Darvin Ham was a good coach
I don't know what makes you think that. Their last few coaches have all gotten credit where it was due.
Walton was bad and still immediately got another job. Vogel gets called a championship level coach and will keep getting signed. Dantoni kept getting jobs.
Mike brown has never been without a job.
@@SilverBored20 ur right bro !!! A random all wing lineup of reddish prince vando lebron ad in the middle of the season for no reason definitely was not the coaches fault 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
WORST JOB?? Every single Coach the Lakers had got a multi year contract after. Its thr best job if you win your celebrated ir you loose you go on and get a multi year contract from another team.
@@SilverBored20 ....their previous coach spent half the season distancing himself from those players and was actively working them out of the rotation even though he knew he'd need them later in the year.
Hire Smush Parker.
What do you guys think of going after Mitchell Robinson? He's a 7-footer that blocks and rebounds and doesn't need the ball.
He’s such a black hole on offense, though.
Naz Read looking pretty good in the playoffs.
And? We are not getting him soo
I think Ime udoka is a experience coach and can hold his own in a locker room.
Elite work Trevor. Can only hope the FO watches this.
Go Lakers! 🌊🏀🟣🟡 💪🏼
LeBron & AD just both shot career playoff highs at 56.6% & 63.4% respectively, proving they very much can still lead a team to a title with the right roster - and crucially - the right leadership at the HC position! 🙏🏼🤞🏼
Too bad they’re not gonna have either next year.
Right.. I know they “share blame” because of results, but outside of some defensive missed queues by LeBron and maybe some missed free throws here and there by AD… what else did we want them to do?! Dang. lol! They were healthy, available, and great literally most of the season. Even in the playoffs.
@@theelementslook AD was trash in the 2nd half of games 1-3 and was brittle af early 3rd quarter of game 5. 🙄The aging Queen was gassed af by mid 3rd quarters of all games. 🙄Nothing changing going forward. 😑Trash Lakers would need a miracle to improve the remaining roster. Pretty much everyone has issues.🤣
Nobody is criticizing his play....they are going after him for everything else, comes with the GOAT job.
@@bradmodd7856 I’m pretty sure Lebron complaining about no calls instead of getting back on defense, and falling asleep on defense, which resulted in several open dunks for Gordon and offensive rebounds for Gordon and Jokic, had a lot to do with the lakers losing to the nuggets.
Everyone wants Ham to take responsibility for his poor coaching, why not demand Lebron and the rest of the players take responsibility for their poor performance as well?
With zero coaching experience why would anyone consider Reddick? If he's hired, it's another disaster in the making. We haven't learned from Walton and Ham.
JJ does coach kids basketball..
Because he really knows basketball has a very high iq, he knows how to draw plays and come up with schemes unlike ham lol
@@juanzell6439😂
Exactly, another year down the drain
Facts 100%
Just imagine how good naz reed would look alongside ad if he was aviable
Head coach
Mark Jackson
Mark Jackson
Mark Jackson
Again for the ones trying to turn a deaf ear, MARK JACKSON!!!!!
Need a true center, plus a back up. Keep AD on the 4.
Exactly
I feel like Ty Lue is just using the Laker name to get an extension he wants from the clippers.
Hopefully Balmer blows it up and starts everything fresh so we can get T-Lue…
The lakers are using him too as a scape goat since the Lakers will be signing JJ just because Ty Lue didn’t want to come coach the Lakers,which is all pure BS
@@Purpleandgold not with a new arena coming up lol he gotta pay for them toilets
Or his agent Rich Paul is playing both sides to get Lue the bag.
@@jesusgascon1026 that’s not what it means to be a scapegoat
The lakers messed up not doing what they had to do to get miles turner ….he was perfect….thats who they need
I thought, at one time Juwan Howard was a name the Lakers were supposedly interested in
Reddick wouldnt be my first choice, but he at least seems intelligent, unlike Dopey Darvin
He wouldn’t be a choice period for me!
@@GeorgiaPride1978I'm rooting for Suns to fire Vogel, and for Lakers to rehire him just to prove that WestBRICK was the one who got him fired
lol
To me if the Lakers go with a rookie head coach again you need to get Phil Handy, he has coaching experience, has a relationship with the players and is a very good developer which would help guys like Jalen, Max, Austin, Rui and Jared Vanderbilt, he's ready to become a head coach I don't want someone like JJ because he has 0 coaching experience and is only mentioned because he is LeBron friend
@@richardgutierrez26Agreed. Love Phil Handy. Bummer he got fired
@@Nostalgia9478yeah he got fired as an assistant coach he already survived the Vogel firing, he wasn't going to kept on again as an assistant now that doesn't mean he won't get hired for the job it just means if he doesn't get the job as the HC then he will need to look for another position elsewhere
I think you start AD at the 4 and then adjust to whatever the other team is doing throughout the game
JJ needs to start as an assistant coach somewhere first.
This front office is a mess. Jeanie is not going to get rid of Rob and meanwhile, Bob Meyers and Mark Jackson are commentating on TV…
JJ Reddick could become the next Pat Riley
Everyone is getting an extension now!🤣🤣🤣🤣
We had first crack at all of them, and fumbled miserably.
The Lakers are a mess who want to coach them
Yo Trevor I heard the pelicans may not give Brandon Ingram an extension this summer and may put him on the trade block you think the lakers should get him back ?🤷🏽♂️
We need him and Dwight Howard
No. There’s a reason that Reaves played over Ingram on the USA team last summer. BI isn’t a winning player.
@@albertmckinney5388no we don't we don't need a player who is way pass his playing days and isn't even in the league that's like saying we need Shaq lol
Fuck no. He’s ball dominant, injured all the time, a minus defender, and would cost a lot.
@@richardgutierrez26 Ill take Shaq too, he can stop The Joker
Lakers need an EXPERIENCED NBA COACH, no more first year coaches for OUR Lakers team.
It's crazy, we could've had Lue or Kidd, and we picked an unproven coach in Lebron's 20th year.
Truth is Pelinka isn't getting enough heat.
18:50 hypnosis got me😂😂😂
It's time for Lakers to bring a real NBA coach
Charles Lee was also an assistant under Bud, keep that in mind because some people are saying they don't want Bud because its basically Ham 2.0, so keep that in mind.
What about Mark Jackson? I think he would be great
Can't stand Mark Jackson he's a bad announcer and even worse coach
Yes, hire Mark!
I LIKE GOING AFTER THEIS AND BOL & BRING BACK WOOD .. THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY VERSATILE FRONT LINE.. AND THE FLOOR WOULD ALWAYS BE SPACED
I think that stretch Bigs like Thomas Bryant and Wendell Carter jr are the perfect Pair of Centers to group with AD
"He drills down on offensive and defensive special situations; end of quarter management, end of game management, also substitutions and that he "has oversight over the video room" -chris finch on what wolves assistant micah nori is in charge of. Seems like a lot of stuff ham was bad at
Hire Bob Myers as the GM and Mark Jackson as the coach.
Trevor, who do you pick?
Yawn... The point that LBJ and AD had a super efficient year is accurate. Played more games and minutes than they will ever play again. Lebron clearly regressed in his ability to play defense and extended minutes. It's not getting better when he's 40, 41, or 42.
Last Lakers title, we had 3 quality bigs. Timberwolves have 3 quality bigs and look at the difference it makes against the Nuggets. Get AD a quality center, and a serviceable 3rd big.
34:48 I don’t have any siblings but this is what imagine being an older brother feels like😂
I think in regards to Jason Kid the mavs kept him because of the second rd
Great comparion to your dogs! Indeed they're acting like dogs LOL
We should hire bob meyer, if not possible hire alvin gentry he is very familiar with AD. And hire Rondo as an asst on that staff . Lakers need a PG and a dominant AD.
micah nori (nor"i"), he's been in the building process of the current/future era teams, nuggets and wolves. he can also help develop bronny james if they decide to pick him up for some reason
Rajon Rondo! should be on the mix too...coaches candidates
Bang on Trevor, in terms of AD 4 or 5. Lakers need the option of AD at the 4 not pay a big to force and to the 4
Well what did we expect, them to say here you want our coach, go ahead and take him
With Pelinka’s job being secure as it is lakers fans r doomed for awhile. Magic walked bcuz Jenny wouldn’t fire Pelinka 🤔
We should also be glad Magic walked after all his dumb moves too. Surrounding LBJ with ball handlers that couldn’t shoot, giving away Zubac, passing on Jason Tatum in the draft, etc
Hire Handy as the head coach, add Rondo & JJ as assistants.
Lue is considered one of the best coaches in the NBA. Kidd has the Mavs playing really well. Both teams really like their coaches. It’s not all about blocking the Lakers, c’mon.
What about Bret Brown? I think he's a pretty good coach and has experience with playing bigs like Embiid and Dwight
😂 I got a cousin from Philadelphia and ran this by him. Bro told me Brett is worse than darvin
@TheIsaiah4352 wow really? I'm shocked cause he seemed like a good coach and tried to hold Ben Simmons accountable, but it cost him his job. Thanks got letting me know this information 👍🏾
@@Sandcastle992 no problem. I thought the same thing and then I ran into a hour long conversation about how Brett is “super darvin”
@@TheIsaiah4352 lol 😆 😂 🤣
Wouldn’t mind Reddick..assistants - atkisnon..rondo..rehire handy..I’d give Becky Hammond a shot too in an assistant role too)
Team JJ! 💪🏼
if LeBron and AD wants to contribute to player personal take a pay cut and build depth.
They should have thought about that before firing current coach! Not sure if the move was well planned or thought out. More of a reactive knee jerk move opposed to a proactive one.
They need to hire Mark Jackson
Trevor Lane for the Lakers next coach!
I WISH I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN ATTENDANCE DURING A LAKERS PRACTICE SESSION...I WOULD HAVE SO MUCH FUN!!! LIKE I'VE MENTIONED BEFORE...SOME PEOPLE LOVE TO PAY TICKETS TO WATCH THEIR FAVORITE PLAYERS PLAY IN FRONT OF A CROWD...WHILE OTHERS...LIKE ME...WOULD LOVE TO BE IN ATTENDANCE TO WATCH HOW THEY PUT THEIR PLAN TOGETHER BEFORE THE GAME. IT'S JUST A DREAM THOUGH.
Should look at mark Jackson Phil handy or coach K
The problem with keeping AD 95-100% in the center position has made him reluctant to shoot more from the outside cause in that position, it’s less called for. This has in turned ruined his flow, rhythm, shot, and reps. This is why he can’t shoot the ball from range effectively. You have to slot him back to PF so we can get the complete dominant AD back. The reason why AD was in consideration to be one of the best in the world was because of his complete game!!
AD’s never been a particularly effective outside shooter. His midrange game is very good when he’s on but he’s never been reliable from deep.
Demarcus cousins would be perfect bigman, can bang with the best of them and stretch the floor with his 3 point shooting
JJ Reddick is the next Laker coach! He knows the game of NBA basketball better than any candidate being considered, not to mention that he will be the coach for many years to come.
You also need two real bigs along side of AD (ie 2021 chip) and a Dramond or Porter(Milwaukee) also a two way guard to handle Murray, DeMar/Donavan/Caruso/Keli Ubrea/Dejonte Murray/Brogden/Marcus Smart/Bones Hyland/Jaden Ivey
When we say, “LeBron or AD share blame…” I seriously want to know what exactly is meant by that. Like not on a specific fandom, I’m just seriously wondering what the expectation was for both of them as top 10 players. What did they not do?
I’m not sure what more they could have done. It honestly looked like 2v5 for 3 of the 5 games in my opinion
I say if Zach Eddy available get him
David Adelman is the best available guy. None of the vet coaches impress me (Atkinson has my vote atm if we go that way), but David Adelman weakens the Nuggets. We also get to know their tendencies better. #hireadelman
We must get Udoka if we miss out on Ty, that Udoka has magic as long he does not mix with the female stuff we safe in keeping him and the team winning. Saw what he did with the Rockets when they were going for the play-in going for 11 straight if my memory serves me well.
Lakers had their chance with Tye and they treated him badly why would he give them a second chance. Hire Ime Udoka a very good coach in Boston and now coaching in Houston.
We need a centre and depth
You build around AD you build around a weak link that will break at any moment
Idiot didnt watch a single this season.
All the time
AD is your best player 🤣
Yup I like ad as the 5 it spreads the floor more but we do need a backup real center when the matchups are needed andrea drummond and Dwight Aa back up center on vet minimums is a no brainer
Scotty Brooks or Mark Jackson with JJ or Rondo as a assistant coach 🤝
No mark mama there goes that man Jackson, a horrible awful announcer can't stand the sound of his voice and an even worse coach
It took Ham like 2/3 of the season to figure out the lineup any halfwit could’ve figured out from the beginning.
Move dlo too shooting guard.. we need a pg and a center💯 and we need a shooter.. we should def go get McGee back and another center..
I think we should get that guy who went to the WCF last year. I thing his name is Darvin Ham...
Right now I’m thinking JJ Redick is the right choice. Smart guy. No pushover. Unpopular with the masses. I think I like him. Reminds me of… me. I’m sure of it, I like him. Steve Kerr had no coaching experience and we know how that turned out.
Let's also get Rondo an assistant coach.
Dont interview anybody that believes AD should still be playing the Center position. The Lakers should start off the interview with how to use AD at the 4.
We don’t need a starting center, but we do need one that can grab rebounds and block shots. Helps for match ups against joker and other bigs.
JJ when asked an interview question:
"Well if you refer to my podcast episode 36 timestamp 42:10...."
Hire LbJ. He can direct and star
Am going to state how all this went downhill. It all started with Vogel. And his mid season obsession with small ball. By the beginning of the playoffs, it was clear Lakers would win the Chip, my only worry was that the credit would go to Vogel and he would stay another season.
That team could have won three chips. But Vogel started a mid season obsession with small ball. And gradually relegated McGee and Howard into meager roles. In 34 mins combined. These guys were given like 28 and 18 rpg. Yet after every great Howard game, Vogel would bench him the next game.
Since Lakers Nation were so blind to Vogels inadequacies and how vastly different he was from the Indians Vogel, I hoped he would get a chance with another team to show how horrible he is. The super team Suns showed that.
The frustration reached a peak when we were playing Denver and we would have leads and Vogel would take out Howard for Caruso whilst Jokic was still in the game. And we would blow leads promptly. I love Caruso, we all did but Caruso should have been coming in for a guard not for Howard. We did win the Chip which we would have won with any coach and Vogel got the credit even with horrible lineups throughout the season. I know I wasn’t the only one frustrated.
Pelinka saw this disregard by Vogel of Howard and McGee and chose to sign a stretch Center which Vogel likes. This marked the beginning of the end. Marc Gasol shouldn’t even. Have been in the league at that time. He would give us 4ppg if we are lucky. And Ad was moved to Center to help Vogels stretch Center fetish. and we never could get by Denver again.
Minnesota proved me right, no body on the nuggets had a double digit rebound because they had bugs all over the floor. AD SHOULD BE PLAYING PF AGAINST THE NUGGETS.
I know not the only person who noticed all this. So sad
IF I WAS BRON I WOULD TELL AD GO GET US BOB MYERS
I think the Lakers will probably have to flip a coin between Budenholzer and Atkinson.
Ya Mark Jackson!
Let’s be 💯, if Lue or Kidd wanted to be the next Lakers coach they could do the same thing as the players & go public with wanting out of their current situation, they don’t have to sign a extension, & what front office wants a coach that doesn’t want to be there 🤷🏾♂️🖖🏾
I mean, both of those guys weren’t available from the get-go anyways so we really didn’t lose anything because we never had them