***SPOILER WARNING**** I had a feeling going into this book that Ace wasn't dead and that became more confirmed when Max's powers weren't known to have killed anyone. I would like to know if anyone shares my theory about Lady Indomintable. I think she was on her way to save Nova's family and that Ace killed her before she could arrive on time to stop the shooter
I saw Ace being alieve coming (I mainly was hoping), but the scene when Nova goes to find the healmet and Dreadwarden told her they never found Ace's body I new he defenaitly wasn't dead.
I really loved this book! Marissa Meyer is one of my favorite authors ever. The Lunar Chronicles got me out of years of not reading and opened me to the world of YA, so yeah, she changed my life. I'm for sure more on the villains side and I just liked the villain characters more than the hero's. I did love Oscar and Ruby though, definitely hope to see more of them in the next book. Max, wow, what a cool and freaky power he has. Poor kid though, I'd definitely be a villain if I were him. I couldn't stand to be locked up my whole life. Omg that ending though! I never saw it coming either until Nova was going through the tunnels. For sure blew my mind! Ugh I can not wait until book number two! There better not be any delays with that one. Great video btw, I'm a first time viewer of yours!
SPOILER ALERT my theories are that ace actually hired the guy to kill nova and her family, not expecting anyone to survive, and when he found nova and saw she had powers he took her in. Also i think lady indomitable was on her way to save novas family but maybe ace had hired phobia to kill any hero that tried to save them and he did, he killed her. Comment what you think
J I omg..... I love this theory.... I just want to add that I can't stand how Nova just blindly follows Ace and mocks the renegades for the wrong that they do.... I mean both parties are a bit grey when you think about it...
Awesome theory. Wish Nova had looked more into the documents about her family's death back at HQ! Also, I'm guessing that Lady Indomitable was just as kind/noble as Adrian 💚💚💚 so at this point yeah I can totally see how your theory works
Good theory but I disagree. The gunman was obviously there on orders from the leader of the Roaches, for reasons the father obviously knew about. It wasn't some surprise betrayal as much as a known consequence of earlier actions "off screen." Also, why would Ace hire a Roach gunman to do something so important as kill his own brother's family? It's too important. He'd do it himself or, if emotionally unable to, have one of his fanatical Anarchists do it. As for Lady Indomitable, no Anarchist killed her. If they had, they would have claimed credit for it. They were, after all, in a war with them.
I felt like the slowness was nice. If it were all action packed 24/7 it would have been harder to follow. I was always entertained even if it was during the "boring parts". I loved your review btw.
But phobia said the words "one cannot be brave who has no fears" that were on the cards found near her when she died. I think lady indomitable was on her way but phobia killed her.
Sophie Dreamcast I like how they executed the twist too. In nova's thoughts, it seemed like she was in grief upon seeing the fake helmet. She also asks about mind readers when entering the headquarters. I feel like there's a half fourth wall break here, which might explain why Adrian's mind wasn't shown connecting the many obvious dots he came across, especially in the literal steamed hams scene where he sees the overdiversity of bees. You know, honey Harper? Anarchist? Cmon dawg. I have this prediction that there's something Adrian knows that he pretends to be oblivious to as the reader is literally reading their minds. If this book is woke, it ain't McWoke.
Never believe someone is dead in a book unless you see a body, I was surprised by the ending but now that I think of it, they mention that there WAS NO BODY and I now I'm like I should have caught that but I didnt. I think it's because Nova seemed so mournful and I got so caught up in the story that I didn't realize it.
I thought pretty early on that Ace was going to turn up alive. I don't think there were any real clues, it was just a feeling I had! I actually thought from the prologue (and still think!) that he orchestrated Nova's parents' deaths.
The ending blew me away! I almost always guess the ending of movies and books, but this one completely took me by surprise and I LOVED IT. PLEASE please make this a movie!
I loved your review! I actual ly read this book a few months ago and am anxiously anticipating the sequel as well as more from Marissa Meyer after Renegades. I felt that there were parts that were unnecessary but at the same time I'll take all the pages i can get 😂 I also didn't see the ending coming at all!!!
I picked this up on a whim. The covers are absolutely beautiful! That ending threw me for a loop. Adrian's power is amazing. If I had his power, I'd tattoo a pair of wings on my body. Has the length of this series been revealed yet?
I just finished this book, and I really enjoyed it. I love superheroes and the marvel movies, so this was right up my ally. I loved the talk of if Superhero's being in charge of society was a bad thing and if more power should be given to the people. I was also thinking that Ace might be masx's dad, or Adrian's, but we'll see in the next book. But that ending had me completely taken by surprise, I did not see it coming either!!!!
A movie adaptation has some potential, but I don't want it to be a carbon copy of marvel or a yung adult film either. There's a lot here that could look really fun on screen, like ruby and Adrian's powers. I think I'd use that as a chance to add some horror like elements to the movie. Especially when Adrian was talking about the monstrosities he drew as a kid. A flashback scene of weird ass snake motherfuckers slithering creepily around a house just sounds really fun to do. Another idea I had is using stop motion in place of things that'd normally be solved with cgi. That'd look really cool. The book is easily an 8 or a 9/10
I really loved the book! I do agree that some parts were filler and was unneeded. I definitely knew Ace was alive because the fake helmet being on display and Simon saying they weren't able to destroy the helmet was a big clue but that wasn't so much of a huge confirmation as when Simon tells Nova that with what little power was Ace flew into the fire. I really hope in the next book Marissa Meyer gives us a little bit of history of Phobia because I am super interested in his background. I thought Ace was the one to kill Lady Indomitable but when Phobia says the quote that was found on Lady Indomitable and Nova comments on how he is always saying it I was so shocked. And it got me thinking that Phobia must of really shown something terrifying for Lady to die. Well I hope we can get a little more background for some of the characters and did anyone feel that Ace doesn't really have that villain type vibe but more like a Thanos villain type vibe?
I actually didn't love this book as much as her others. I liked it, but I didn't really connect with the characters and there was a little too much focus on world-building. I wasn't really surprised by the ending either! I think there are subtle clues.
Beautifully Bookish Bethany I agree! The Lunar Chronicles quickly became one of my favorite series EVER, and I loved Heartless too (if not quite as much), but I was pretty underwhelmed with Renegades. I have very high standards for Marissa Meyer now and was disappointed that she didn’t quite reach them with this book.
Beautifully Bookish Bethany I think you're right about the focus if World building, but I feel that was necessary in this book and a lot more of character development will happen in the sequel.
so i have read this book two times and i glad did so because i do have learning disorder that sometime effect my reading the first time read some how (i know what you normble people will be like how did he even thought it said that but yeah some my disorder cause weird thing ok) that phobia took off his customs and he turn out not be ace but nova dad and he was the one that said i knew you will do well my little nightmare. so i glad i read it agin so i could found out i miss read ending but you know it happen
In my opinion, this book felt like an overlong introduction. It wasn't really clear who the antagonist of the story was but I loved all the suspense. I was confused about where the plot was going but at least the cliffhanger ending foreshadows interesting events.
I really didn't like the main characters. It seemed really obvious to me that Nova's Uncle should have been her prime suspect in her family's death, instead of her blindly following him while snidely thinking about how stupid and brainwashed everyone else is. And Adrian put his friends in danger by showing up in the sentinel outfit during battles, and making them stop and try to figure out who this new guy was, and if he was friend or foe. That was just selfish. What's interesting is how different this book is from the initial blurb for The Gatlon School for Vigilantes Book.
(Very very late here but seeing this pop up in a couple discussions about this) Understandable that you don't like it but these traits are what make Adrien and Nova human. In Nova's case of course she blindly followed her uncle, he's the one who showed up(when nobody else seemed to come) and promised to protect her after the death of her family. Why would she think 'Uncle Alec',the one who did so much for them and her over the years, suddenly kill the family? And she believes everyone was brainwashed into idolizing the Renegades because that's what she thought happened to her and look where that thinking got her. As for Adrien, he was just a teen doing the normal teen thing of having plans that sound good or mean well but ultimately make things worse in the long run. Yes it's selfish for him to be the Sentinel but you know from the get go why he did it.
Nova went back to the cathedral tombs and found food (and nice food, too, like cheese and grapes and wine I think and even a candle--I saw it as indicating that it was someone important living in the tombs) near the entrance or something. She said that the helmet was still intact, etc etc, and we find out that good ole Uncle Ace is the one Nova's talking to, levitating (still has his powers! Also, is alive lol). He says "good job my little nightmare" or something along those lines
oh yeah, i totally didn’t see ace being alive coming! i kinda-ish put it together with what max could do but it took me a while haha! i really loved this book (and archenemies!)
Bookables I will say, as soon as the council said they never found Ace's body I figured he was alive. But I loved the cliffhanger. I also love the internal conflict of hero vs villain within Nova. And the whole premise of the heroes having too much power (ie Agent N) and pointing out that normal citizens are not stepping up to help because they assume someone else (a Renegade) will were both great! Maybe the "heroes" aren't helping as much as they think.
I feel like no one talks about (or even realizes) that the entire story is really about anarchy and dictatorship opposing each other and two people on opposing sides who are actually fighting for the middle ground (democracy) whether they realize it or not. The thing is that the dictatorship qualities of the council are hidden behind their good intentions and good morals. It shows the danger of putting complete faith and control into a government that, though they may have good laws and good intentions at the start, could begin to use their power to oppress and control people. Also, it seems highly likely that Phobia killed Adrian's mother (because he says the phrase and it would make sense that he could scare her so much she'd fall to her death) although I'm not sure why he wouldn't claim credit
Ace is not Max's dad. They mentioned the powers of both his parents and neither match telekinesis. He got the telekinesis from ace when Hugh strapped him to his back to try to stop ace. Adrian, possibly. We know when reading nova's mind, that she acted like ace was dead. She even asks if there's any mind readers to someone at the headquarters. The guy answers no, but Nova might be tryna cover up that she's possibly aware that someone is literally reading her thoughts since they're written in a book. I feel like Adrian might be hiding something in his mind from us too, which'd explain why the most obvious clues he comes across seem to whoosh him.
I really enjoyed this book and shared your belief about how in some parts it was a bit slow but idk I thought it was kinda slow mostly between the beginning and the end :)
Basil Baby he did fucking nothing. Unlike max, who I thought was useless until he did make his shining moment, phobia had none of that. I'm surprised he actually weaved his ass past the cutting floor that the book came from. At least the book isn't culture 2 level filler. There's actually very little filler. Everything that wasn't phobia had some just reason to exist at least from a stretch. But I have the iq to understand many things in the novel but where I see phobia, he's kinda just useless.
I think that he's really powerful, just that Marissa Meyer wants to save him for another book. Honey and Leroy didn't do as much as I'd hoped, either. Really hoping that Honey and Leroy turn out to be good people and not back stabbers like The Detonator
minielephant123 the detonator reminds me so much of Angie from shark tale. She expects people to read her minds but backpedals horribly when she needs to explain why she never gave notice that she was gonna change the plan and she acts like Nova would've known. In what world would Nova just catch on without notice?
Spoiler talk coming up: It's like animal farm but commentating more on modern politics and also criticizes the common trope of useless kill offs in stories of this genre. The plan Ingrid and Nova come up with at the end seems like a criticism on how characters will get dramatic death scenes only to be brought back as corporates build on cinematic universes. Basically, guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man, and black panther will come back; fax. What happened in infinity war meant nothing tho it was slightly effective alone. Now what happened in renegades? Well, they attempt to fake their deaths.
***SPOILER WARNING**** I had a feeling going into this book that Ace wasn't dead and that became more confirmed when Max's powers weren't known to have killed anyone. I would like to know if anyone shares my theory about Lady Indomintable. I think she was on her way to save Nova's family and that Ace killed her before she could arrive on time to stop the shooter
ooooh very good theory!!! We shall see if it pans out!
I saw Ace being alieve coming (I mainly was hoping), but the scene when Nova goes to find the healmet and Dreadwarden told her they never found Ace's body I new he defenaitly wasn't dead.
That is the best theory I have heard so far!
Yeah it was many clues, plus I think u are right.
woah amazing theory! could be true.
I really loved this book! Marissa Meyer is one of my favorite authors ever. The Lunar Chronicles got me out of years of not reading and opened me to the world of YA, so yeah, she changed my life. I'm for sure more on the villains side and I just liked the villain characters more than the hero's. I did love Oscar and Ruby though, definitely hope to see more of them in the next book. Max, wow, what a cool and freaky power he has. Poor kid though, I'd definitely be a villain if I were him. I couldn't stand to be locked up my whole life. Omg that ending though! I never saw it coming either until Nova was going through the tunnels. For sure blew my mind! Ugh I can not wait until book number two! There better not be any delays with that one. Great video btw, I'm a first time viewer of yours!
Thanks so much for watching & commenting! And so glad you enjoyed the book as well!
Yes! I love your comment!!
I really liked this book. A excellent starter.
I agree!
SPOILER ALERT
my theories are that ace actually hired the guy to kill nova and her family, not expecting anyone to survive, and when he found nova and saw she had powers he took her in. Also i think lady indomitable was on her way to save novas family but maybe ace had hired phobia to kill any hero that tried to save them and he did, he killed her. Comment what you think
J I omg..... I love this theory.... I just want to add that I can't stand how Nova just blindly follows Ace and mocks the renegades for the wrong that they do.... I mean both parties are a bit grey when you think about it...
I totally agree
Awesome theory. Wish Nova had looked more into the documents about her family's death back at HQ! Also, I'm guessing that Lady Indomitable was just as kind/noble as Adrian 💚💚💚 so at this point yeah I can totally see how your theory works
Good theory but I disagree. The gunman was obviously there on orders from the leader of the Roaches, for reasons the father obviously knew about. It wasn't some surprise betrayal as much as a known consequence of earlier actions "off screen." Also, why would Ace hire a Roach gunman to do something so important as kill his own brother's family? It's too important. He'd do it himself or, if emotionally unable to, have one of his fanatical Anarchists do it.
As for Lady Indomitable, no Anarchist killed her. If they had, they would have claimed credit for it. They were, after all, in a war with them.
I loved renegades so much! It was my first book to finish of 2018
I loved it as well!!
I felt like the slowness was nice. If it were all action packed 24/7 it would have been harder to follow. I was always entertained even if it was during the "boring parts". I loved your review btw.
Thanks for watching!
But phobia said the words "one cannot be brave who has no fears" that were on the cards found near her when she died. I think lady indomitable was on her way but phobia killed her.
ooooh interesting theory!
I enjoyed this book a lot! And I suspected Ace wasn't dead when they said they never found his body...
I should have known I'm just horrible lol!
Sophie Dreamcast I like how they executed the twist too. In nova's thoughts, it seemed like she was in grief upon seeing the fake helmet. She also asks about mind readers when entering the headquarters. I feel like there's a half fourth wall break here, which might explain why Adrian's mind wasn't shown connecting the many obvious dots he came across, especially in the literal steamed hams scene where he sees the overdiversity of bees. You know, honey Harper? Anarchist? Cmon dawg. I have this prediction that there's something Adrian knows that he pretends to be oblivious to as the reader is literally reading their minds. If this book is woke, it ain't McWoke.
Never believe someone is dead in a book unless you see a body, I was surprised by the ending but now that I think of it, they mention that there WAS NO BODY and I now I'm like I should have caught that but I didnt. I think it's because Nova seemed so mournful and I got so caught up in the story that I didn't realize it.
I thought pretty early on that Ace was going to turn up alive. I don't think there were any real clues, it was just a feeling I had! I actually thought from the prologue (and still think!) that he orchestrated Nova's parents' deaths.
I think that as well! He def had something to do with it!
The Three Bookshelves remember when Simon revealed how ace just fell into a fire? Kinda like Osama, except Osama just exploded.
You should put a spoiler warning but okay.
The ending blew me away! I almost always guess the ending of movies and books, but this one completely took me by surprise and I LOVED IT. PLEASE please make this a movie!
It would make an interesting movie that's for sure!
I just finished this book and oh my god, you were right, it’s so fun! The book went by so fast and I need more!!!
yes!
I loved your review! I actual ly read this book a few months ago and am anxiously anticipating the sequel as well as more from Marissa Meyer after Renegades. I felt that there were parts that were unnecessary but at the same time I'll take all the pages i can get 😂 I also didn't see the ending coming at all!!!
Me either! such a good ending!
I picked this up on a whim. The covers are absolutely beautiful! That ending threw me for a loop. Adrian's power is amazing. If I had his power, I'd tattoo a pair of wings on my body. Has the length of this series been revealed yet?
Thats a great idea! I'd do that as well! And I dont believe so!
Yeah look in the back of the book the second and last book comes out in November 2018
I just finished this book, and I really enjoyed it. I love superheroes and the marvel movies, so this was right up my ally. I loved the talk of if Superhero's being in charge of society was a bad thing and if more power should be given to the people. I was also thinking that Ace might be masx's dad, or Adrian's, but we'll see in the next book.
But that ending had me completely taken by surprise, I did not see it coming either!!!!
Right?? so good!!
I ordered this book and I am so excited to read it. Great Video 😀
Thanks for watching!
A movie adaptation has some potential, but I don't want it to be a carbon copy of marvel or a yung adult film either. There's a lot here that could look really fun on screen, like ruby and Adrian's powers. I think I'd use that as a chance to add some horror like elements to the movie. Especially when Adrian was talking about the monstrosities he drew as a kid. A flashback scene of weird ass snake motherfuckers slithering creepily around a house just sounds really fun to do. Another idea I had is using stop motion in place of things that'd normally be solved with cgi. That'd look really cool. The book is easily an 8 or a 9/10
I want to read this book so bad!!! But it's not coming out here in the UK until April/March next year :(
Blah that sucks!
WHAT?!!?!?! 0
Cant you buy it online on kindle or nook?
Or on Amazon!?!?!?!
I cannot wait to read this! Great video!!
Thanks so much!
I think phobia is Adrian’s dad cause he said a quote to nova that Adrian’s mom used to say
oooh interesting
I really loved the book! I do agree that some parts were filler and was unneeded. I definitely knew Ace was alive because the fake helmet being on display and Simon saying they weren't able to destroy the helmet was a big clue but that wasn't so much of a huge confirmation as when Simon tells Nova that with what little power was Ace flew into the fire. I really hope in the next book Marissa Meyer gives us a little bit of history of Phobia because I am super interested in his background. I thought Ace was the one to kill Lady Indomitable but when Phobia says the quote that was found on Lady Indomitable and Nova comments on how he is always saying it I was so shocked. And it got me thinking that Phobia must of really shown something terrifying for Lady to die. Well I hope we can get a little more background for some of the characters and did anyone feel that Ace doesn't really have that villain type vibe but more like a Thanos villain type vibe?
oh lord I would love if he had a thanos type of vibe!
I actually didn't love this book as much as her others. I liked it, but I didn't really connect with the characters and there was a little too much focus on world-building. I wasn't really surprised by the ending either! I think there are subtle clues.
As always, I miss the obvious clues lol!
Beautifully Bookish Bethany I agree! The Lunar Chronicles quickly became one of my favorite series EVER, and I loved Heartless too (if not quite as much), but I was pretty underwhelmed with Renegades. I have very high standards for Marissa Meyer now and was disappointed that she didn’t quite reach them with this book.
The Three Bookshelves Glad to know I'm not the only one!
Beautifully Bookish Bethany I think you're right about the focus if World building, but I feel that was necessary in this book and a lot more of character development will happen in the sequel.
so i have read this book two times and i glad did so because i do have learning disorder that sometime effect my reading the first time read some how (i know what you normble people will be like how did he even thought it said that but yeah some my disorder cause weird thing ok) that phobia took off his customs and he turn out not be ace but nova dad and he was the one that said i knew you will do well my little nightmare. so i glad i read it agin so i could found out i miss read ending but you know it happen
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I love your review videos. I now can't wait to read this book. Thank you
Thanks so much!
In my opinion, this book felt like an overlong introduction. It wasn't really clear who the antagonist of the story was but I loved all the suspense. I was confused about where the plot was going but at least the cliffhanger ending foreshadows interesting events.
It was def a longer book than it needed to be
I really didn't like the main characters. It seemed really obvious to me that Nova's Uncle should have been her prime suspect in her family's death, instead of her blindly following him while snidely thinking about how stupid and brainwashed everyone else is. And Adrian put his friends in danger by showing up in the sentinel outfit during battles, and making them stop and try to figure out who this new guy was, and if he was friend or foe. That was just selfish. What's interesting is how different this book is from the initial blurb for The Gatlon School for Vigilantes Book.
That's true! I remember that title now...I wonder why she didn't stick with that idea!
(Very very late here but seeing this pop up in a couple discussions about this) Understandable that you don't like it but these traits are what make Adrien and Nova human. In Nova's case of course she blindly followed her uncle, he's the one who showed up(when nobody else seemed to come) and promised to protect her after the death of her family. Why would she think 'Uncle Alec',the one who did so much for them and her over the years, suddenly kill the family? And she believes everyone was brainwashed into idolizing the Renegades because that's what she thought happened to her and look where that thinking got her. As for Adrien, he was just a teen doing the normal teen thing of having plans that sound good or mean well but ultimately make things worse in the long run. Yes it's selfish for him to be the Sentinel but you know from the get go why he did it.
Wait wtf. I read this, was confused with the ending, and didn’t know Ace was alive. Anyone wanna explain the ending to me?
Nova went back to the cathedral tombs and found food (and nice food, too, like cheese and grapes and wine I think and even a candle--I saw it as indicating that it was someone important living in the tombs) near the entrance or something. She said that the helmet was still intact, etc etc, and we find out that good ole Uncle Ace is the one Nova's talking to, levitating (still has his powers! Also, is alive lol). He says "good job my little nightmare" or something along those lines
oh yeah, i totally didn’t see ace being alive coming! i kinda-ish put it together with what max could do but it took me a while haha! i really loved this book (and archenemies!)
I loved this book as well!
Just finished the audio book and it was AMAZING!!!! Can't wait for the next one!
yay!
Bookables I will say, as soon as the council said they never found Ace's body I figured he was alive. But I loved the cliffhanger. I also love the internal conflict of hero vs villain within Nova. And the whole premise of the heroes having too much power (ie Agent N) and pointing out that normal citizens are not stepping up to help because they assume someone else (a Renegade) will were both great! Maybe the "heroes" aren't helping as much as they think.
Hoping to get this book for Christmas!
Here's to hopinhg!
I know this is a weird question but why is it that some of the Renagades books are blue or red without the dust jacket? Are there different editions?
Yes there are diff editions. Mine is the target edition!
Great job reviewing this, divulged just enough to do it justice without spoiling it (well I didn’t listen to spoiler part)
Thanks so much!!
something i noticed when rereading renegades waa that no one in the anarchists really ever said ace was dead.
thatd true!
I feel like no one talks about (or even realizes) that the entire story is really about anarchy and dictatorship opposing each other and two people on opposing sides who are actually fighting for the middle ground (democracy) whether they realize it or not. The thing is that the dictatorship qualities of the council are hidden behind their good intentions and good morals. It shows the danger of putting complete faith and control into a government that, though they may have good laws and good intentions at the start, could begin to use their power to oppress and control people.
Also, it seems highly likely that Phobia killed Adrian's mother (because he says the phrase and it would make sense that he could scare her so much she'd fall to her death) although I'm not sure why he wouldn't claim credit
ahh all good points!
*SPOILERS*
I thought that Ace was dead for a while but always kept in mind that they never actually said that he was dead
right? so mad I didnt catch that!
While the book did say that Ace’s body was never found...
ah true!
there's a character called tsunami? That's a cool power to have to control water
I agree!
Ace is not Max's dad. They mentioned the powers of both his parents and neither match telekinesis. He got the telekinesis from ace when Hugh strapped him to his back to try to stop ace. Adrian, possibly. We know when reading nova's mind, that she acted like ace was dead. She even asks if there's any mind readers to someone at the headquarters. The guy answers no, but Nova might be tryna cover up that she's possibly aware that someone is literally reading her thoughts since they're written in a book. I feel like Adrian might be hiding something in his mind from us too, which'd explain why the most obvious clues he comes across seem to whoosh him.
Love all your comments on this and your insight!
I really enjoyed this book and shared your belief about how in some parts it was a bit slow but idk I thought it was kinda slow mostly between the beginning and the end :)
I agree, it did have some slow parts
I can’t be the ONLY one who feels that Nova doesn’t have much personality, right??
I agree, she def doesnt
True it was really long
but so good!
Also, something really weird is going on with Phobia....
right???
Basil Baby he did fucking nothing. Unlike max, who I thought was useless until he did make his shining moment, phobia had none of that. I'm surprised he actually weaved his ass past the cutting floor that the book came from. At least the book isn't culture 2 level filler. There's actually very little filler. Everything that wasn't phobia had some just reason to exist at least from a stretch. But I have the iq to understand many things in the novel but where I see phobia, he's kinda just useless.
I think that he's really powerful, just that Marissa Meyer wants to save him for another book. Honey and Leroy didn't do as much as I'd hoped, either. Really hoping that Honey and Leroy turn out to be good people and not back stabbers like The Detonator
minielephant123 the detonator reminds me so much of Angie from shark tale. She expects people to read her minds but backpedals horribly when she needs to explain why she never gave notice that she was gonna change the plan and she acts like Nova would've known. In what world would Nova just catch on without notice?
Im 12 should i get this book?
hmm I think its ok to read at that age!
@@Bookables okk😃
When you first started describing the book, my first thought was Robo cop with Stallone lol.
ha love it!
I loved Adrian so much!!!!!!
Me as well!
Hi
Hi!
When I read the end of the book I actually thought it was a flashback... Guess I was wrong
I dont think it was? if it was I thought it was an excellent one then!
@@Bookables I thought she was imagining it, it was so sudden.
I've been looking around, and I think im the only male who read renegades.
I dont think so!
Ace better not be Adrian's father 😬😬 that would mean him and Nova are cousins !! 🥺🥺
must keep reading on!
I didn't even realize Ace was alive. I thought she was just thinking that or something I'm so dumb lol
ha no worries! i had to reread that part several times!
I figured out the ending. But then, I was thinking "No, that's to easy."
But, alas, I was correct. Also, a little disappointed I figured it out.
Ha I am literally the worst with plot twists and never see them coming,
Bookables I like to think of myself as a plot Sherlock Holmes.
Spoiler talk coming up: It's like animal farm but commentating more on modern politics and also criticizes the common trope of useless kill offs in stories of this genre. The plan Ingrid and Nova come up with at the end seems like a criticism on how characters will get dramatic death scenes only to be brought back as corporates build on cinematic universes. Basically, guardians of the Galaxy, Spider-Man, and black panther will come back; fax. What happened in infinity war meant nothing tho it was slightly effective alone. Now what happened in renegades? Well, they attempt to fake their deaths.
good points!
It’d be QUITE awkward if Ace turned out to be Adrian’s dad, considering that would make Nova and Adrian cousins 😬
ha true!