SIGISMUND FACES ABADDON!

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  • Hi all Wolf Lord Rho here!
    Today Black Templars week kicks off! And what better way to start then with a bang... as we discuss, the first High Marshall of the the Black Templars himself, Sigismund. And his encounter with the Despoiler, Ezekyle Abaddon!
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  • @drekbleh7081
    @drekbleh7081 4 роки тому +157

    Sigisumd, ripped in half and 3 seconds to live:
    "Hey, HEY Abbadon look at me!"
    Abbadon makes eye contact
    "...bitch" ( *dies* )

  • @robertheinz825
    @robertheinz825 4 роки тому +483

    Sigismund: Dad, can I worship Grandpa?
    Dorn: *No*

    • @annatarlordofgifts5767
      @annatarlordofgifts5767 4 роки тому +74

      Sigismund: Imma do it anyway

    • @RamonChiNangWong078
      @RamonChiNangWong078 3 роки тому +15

      @@annatarlordofgifts5767 Dorn: Go to sleep.
      We got a wall to fortified tomorrow

    • @magnusthered4973
      @magnusthered4973 2 роки тому +4

      @@RamonChiNangWong078 sigismund: secretly trains in combat then building

  • @boxy2k8
    @boxy2k8 4 роки тому +235

    "How did he wound you?"
    "He just wouldn't die, Khayon. He just... wouldn't... die."

    • @ashleyblight8165
      @ashleyblight8165 4 роки тому +26

      Wound a son of horus the best way possible; defy him until the end

    • @rickconnolly5006
      @rickconnolly5006 3 роки тому +1

      Best ever

    • @seekingabsolution1907
      @seekingabsolution1907 3 роки тому +2

      @@ashleyblight8165 yeah, I suppose so since Horus was pretty much engineered to be a persuasive and charismatic but also brutal and uncompromising tyrant both by genetic engineering and strict education.

  • @celticfox
    @celticfox 4 роки тому +328

    Even in death he casts curses at Abaddon. A true badass.

    • @jessejamesroy0069
      @jessejamesroy0069 4 роки тому +8

      Abaddon was the bigger man having atleast some respect for Sigismund and treating him with such Sigismund should have returned that respect in kind

    • @SomniumHobbyist
      @SomniumHobbyist 4 роки тому +19

      @@jessejamesroy0069 Yeah, the guy who curses a traitor that is attempting to topple a nation is totally at fault here.

    • @jessejamesroy0069
      @jessejamesroy0069 4 роки тому +4

      @@SomniumHobbyist it's not about motives or intentions it's about being a warrior and respecting your opponent and toppling nations is that not what astartes do lol was that not the entire Imperial crusade? wiping out anyone who's not a human atheist funny how people still view the Imperium as "good" more like self righteous, zealous, hypocrites

    • @celticfox
      @celticfox 4 роки тому +16

      @@jessejamesroy0069 Horus was a traitor to the Imperium, and to anyone else that defended the Emperor's realm. Sigismund was the Emperors Champion, so you know there wasn't a drop of respect or mercy in Sigismund's body when he had to face down the last of Horus' Justaerin, not to mention his right-hand man.

    • @jessejamesroy0069
      @jessejamesroy0069 4 роки тому +2

      @@celticfox Yet Abbadon was man enough not to resort to petty insults and give in to classic villain anger even offering mercy to the emperor's champion, Abbadon has many reasons to hate on sigi but puts the BS aside. I would have liked sigi alot more if his last words were something more meaningful than wishing for another's death

  • @yeoldchief7711
    @yeoldchief7711 4 роки тому +196

    Abadon learned what "No Pity, No Remorse, No Fear" looks and acts like. My favourite loyalist Chapter

    • @rickconnolly5006
      @rickconnolly5006 3 роки тому +6

      "I suffer not, the unclean to live" fucken oof mate

    • @ramsuryaprasath1381
      @ramsuryaprasath1381 3 роки тому

      Who was the other primarch the talon slayed?....one was sanguinius.....other one?pls say

    • @rickconnolly5006
      @rickconnolly5006 3 роки тому +1

      @@ramsuryaprasath1381 clone of horus I think

    • @ramsuryaprasath1381
      @ramsuryaprasath1381 3 роки тому

      @@rickconnolly5006 hmmm I think so.....I heard it somewhere but forgot it ......

    • @markcoroneos7811
      @markcoroneos7811 3 роки тому

      Yeah sanguinius, the horus clone and big e

  • @Jagonath
    @Jagonath 3 роки тому +47

    Abaddon: "This claw has slain two primarchs… I would have spared it your blood."
    Sigismund: "You will die as your... wait TWO primarchs?

    • @randomcenturion7264
      @randomcenturion7264 3 роки тому +10

      Abbadon: Yeah, funny story. Killed a clone of my dad.

    • @bloodangel19
      @bloodangel19 3 роки тому +14

      Clone Horus was hardly a primearch, hell i doubt he would make a good custodian. At best a tough primaris

    • @tobsw3802
      @tobsw3802 Рік тому +1

      ​@Blood Angel I thought the fight was pretty good and about what you'd expect. If I recall correctly Clone Horus was naked and unarmoured only wielding his mace and he was surrounded by angry Black Legion marines. I remember the passage describing him wading through a torrent a of bolter fire, just shrugging off the horrific wounds and slaughtering the BL marines until Abbadon finally manages to get a good stab in with the Talon.

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT 4 роки тому +333

    I truly hope Sigismund comes back as an Imperial Saint, that alone would scare the living crap out of Abbadon. Also Sigismund was much older, as far as I recall he was a Terran Astartes but might be wrong

    • @linkdude64
      @linkdude64 4 роки тому +74

      Because of Warp-time screw-ery, yes, Sigismund was 1,000 years older than Abbadon at the time. A saintly woman is scary enough, but a saintly Astartes...? Holy crap. I think the closest to that we may have to that is the Grandmaster of the Grey Knights, and he is obviously OP.

    • @Black_Blow_Fly
      @Black_Blow_Fly 4 роки тому +20

      I want to see him come back in a Relic Contemptor suit for an epic rematch... Sigismund mops the floor with that filfth.

    • @markcoroneos7811
      @markcoroneos7811 4 роки тому +11

      Legion of the damned anyone?? haha

    • @lorenzosheffield8917
      @lorenzosheffield8917 4 роки тому +17

      Imagine both Sig and Bjorn as Dreadnoughts. Chaos would cry lol

    • @nicholascerillo4000
      @nicholascerillo4000 4 роки тому +7

      muinaiset isn’t the Sanguinor kind of like a Living Saint?

  • @sd501st5
    @sd501st5 4 роки тому +249

    The Black Templars... just as the Imperial Fists are Dorn's stoicism, so are the Templars his fury made manifest.
    "My normal calm had been... compromised."

    • @VonKuro
      @VonKuro 4 роки тому +25

      Watch out for the fury of the quiet man, it is a blade always sharpened and never dulled.

    • @darthlazurus4382
      @darthlazurus4382 4 роки тому +3

      *kettle begins to steam*

    • @dekaw9138
      @dekaw9138 4 роки тому +5

      The Crimson Fists are his Good Dad side

    • @joshuadarrow
      @joshuadarrow 3 роки тому +16

      “I was something beyond furious.”

    • @wyettastone
      @wyettastone 3 роки тому +9

      @@dekaw9138 "You have done well to carry your children this far and keep up with us Astartes but now it's time for someone to carry you" - Crimson Fists Chapter Master
      I am proud to admit that I shed such manly tears at that scene.

  • @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968
    @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968 4 роки тому +137

    The scorn and disgust that sigs hurls at Abbadon!!!

    • @mcchicken1849
      @mcchicken1849 4 роки тому +3

      Thats the Black Templars for you.

    • @ashleyblight8165
      @ashleyblight8165 4 роки тому +10

      People forget just how close and how strong the brotherhood was among these astartes. Sigismund and abaddon were literal close competitive cousins, boasting of each others prowess and praising one another for great deeds, to throw such comradery away would be infuriating and incomprehensible. Especially to a son of the most straight up and down primarch of them all

    • @mcchicken1849
      @mcchicken1849 4 роки тому

      @@ashleyblight8165 That certainly explains his last words then.

    • @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968
      @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968 4 роки тому +4

      Ashley Blight so well said! The betrayal was so much more personal for the pre heresy Astartes

  • @stevemanart
    @stevemanart 4 роки тому +91

    Back when I was in the Navy, having three or more battles a week with various folks on base I noticed something. Black Templars and Grey Knights (often together) was super popular with Marine Corps players and attached Navy medics. One of my buddies, the guy who helped me flesh out the backstory for my Steel Angels homebrew, was a medic (he's a civilian doctor now), has a tattoo of the Black Templars iron cross with a scroll with the test Sigismund on his forearm.
    As to your question at the end. Had Sigismund fought Abaddon on Terra there is no way Abaddon would have survived the battle. Abaddon's head would be sitting in a stasis reliquary on the Black Templar's fortress monastery for all to see. If Abaddon was in power armor instead of terminator plate at their final battle Sigismund would have still done the same to him.

    • @mcchicken1849
      @mcchicken1849 3 роки тому +2

      That is really cool! I am greatly surprised that soldiers would be into W40K, let alone the tabletop game.

    • @rickconnolly5006
      @rickconnolly5006 3 роки тому +10

      Marines taking a liking to the Black Templars...
      ...Yup.

    • @seekingabsolution1907
      @seekingabsolution1907 3 роки тому +2

      Actually standard pattern astartes armor is said to be very effective in combat against terminator armor, it is possible that in standard gear he would have won.

    • @jonomano3992
      @jonomano3992 Рік тому

      @@mcchicken1849 Marines are a little outcast mentally from the normal populace, you'd be surprised at the mental gymnastics and like how much you have to remember to be civilian when you finally finish your service. The loneliness you feel from not having that purpose and brotherhood you don't get out here vs when you're in.
      Took me 4 years, but I finally got into Warhammer and damn does it make me miss the predeployment speeches from a leader who you knew would die in a pile of brass next to you if it called for it.
      Im pretty sure I heard of a couple of Royal Marines also into WH40k 🥹

    • @Banthisyoutube-zs6sx
      @Banthisyoutube-zs6sx 16 днів тому

      ​@@mcchicken1849old commwnt but the marines are very much maligned as "crayom eaters". The marine cirps commandant puts out a reading list every year for marines to read if they so choose anything from sun tsu to robert heinlein. Out of all the branches the USMC is actually the most well read and things like warhammer are fostered to get them to think tactically......yes it is a game but a game focused on strengths and counter strengths and small unit tactics with an aspect of chance mixed in like a real world battle. This is something all branches of the military have started to foster in the rank and file enlisted. I live in a military town i would say 60% of the warhammer players are either current or former military. At my local hobby store i know of atleast 3 paratroopers inclyding my brother who are religious players. One guy plays guard, my brother plays wolves, and the other guy plays world eaters i believe.

  • @balintmiklosy9138
    @balintmiklosy9138 4 роки тому +41

    Had they met under the walls of the palace, Abaddon wouldn't have stood a chance in my opinion. Wish you covered how Abaddon returned his body and armaments, I always really enjoyed that little detail, even the traitors had such respect towards the man.

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 4 роки тому +84

    Died like a true swordsman. With his blade inside the enemy.

    • @mcchicken1849
      @mcchicken1849 4 роки тому +5

      Gotta love the Black Templars. I love how they thrust their pulsating, massive, black powerswords into people, both muscly and petite.

    • @sodapopbrosky
      @sodapopbrosky 4 роки тому +2

      ^^^^^🤣🤣🤣

    • @mcmarkmarkson7115
      @mcmarkmarkson7115 4 роки тому +2

      @@mcchicken1849 BBC = big black crusader

    • @mcchicken1849
      @mcchicken1849 4 роки тому +3

      @@mcmarkmarkson7115 Please stop I can only get so erect before I have to rewatch Helsreach again.

  • @elfdrow6679
    @elfdrow6679 3 роки тому +15

    ~Abaddon rips him in half~
    -Sigismund: I's only a flesh wound!

  • @drummerdanny1269
    @drummerdanny1269 4 роки тому +30

    Abaddon says that Sigismund was the fastest SM and that his speed diminished in his old age. Sigismund would never have died in his prime.

  • @ashleyblight8165
    @ashleyblight8165 4 роки тому +58

    We need a TTS emperor episode where dorn reacts to hearing sigi boys deeds.

    • @vregile
      @vregile 3 роки тому +2

      Practically there is one... On the black templars...

  • @Iserior
    @Iserior 4 роки тому +52

    PURGING WITH MY KIN

  • @judgedreddthelaw3418
    @judgedreddthelaw3418 4 роки тому +47

    Sigismund must be strong to move those massive balls of steel in his armor.

    • @kedarraman6690
      @kedarraman6690 3 роки тому +1

      Steel brother those balls are pure auorumite

    • @rickconnolly5006
      @rickconnolly5006 3 роки тому +3

      Each one needs it's own servo motor

    • @Dreadbringer
      @Dreadbringer 3 роки тому +1

      @@rickconnolly5006 More like warhawk engines.

    • @AlternicityBlogspot
      @AlternicityBlogspot 3 роки тому

      Why would the big E give them actual balls?

    • @Dreadbringer
      @Dreadbringer 3 роки тому

      @@AlternicityBlogspot what do you have against balls?

  • @sonofjack6286
    @sonofjack6286 4 роки тому +40

    I never realized that Ezekiel was such a statesman, I always thought he was a big angry brute, but turns out he's a politician when he needs it.

    • @RichterBelmont2235
      @RichterBelmont2235 3 роки тому +5

      If an angry brute lived for several hundred, if not thousands of years, he'd bound to pick up some skills outside of his usual interest and mindset, whether he likes it or not. Eternity can be boring.

    • @ShahbazBokhari
      @ShahbazBokhari 3 роки тому +1

      Richter Belmont he was an advisor to Horus once. Makes sense he inherited his father’s acumen there.

    • @carsoncasmirri3874
      @carsoncasmirri3874 3 роки тому +1

      Horus was one of the single greatest diplomats in the Imperium

    • @seekingabsolution1907
      @seekingabsolution1907 3 роки тому

      Thats how he united so many of the traitor legions.

    • @seekingabsolution1907
      @seekingabsolution1907 3 роки тому

      @@RichterBelmont2235 thats how some ancient warrior named George (or at least, he killed a dragon in the middle ages so he probably was called George at some point so that will stand in until his original name is canonized) and his BFF became the emperor of mankind and Malcador the sigilite, they lived so long they became the best at everything.

  • @adeptuscole4675
    @adeptuscole4675 4 роки тому +72

    This week will be heavenly , The Black Templar are my original favorite , Iooking forward to all you bring its quality is always dependable .

  • @alexanderm8880
    @alexanderm8880 4 роки тому +20

    If Dorn ever comes back, it'd be awesome if Sigismund was revealed to be an Imperial Saint like Celestine. THAT would be a kick to Dorn's gut given their past.

  • @TheNerdForAllSeasons
    @TheNerdForAllSeasons 2 роки тому +5

    "We were traitors. That was enough."
    It's not just enough, it's everything. Loyalty above all else.

  • @GruwskiTheDogski
    @GruwskiTheDogski 4 роки тому +152

    "If you could make God bleed, people would cease to believe in Him.
    There will be blood in the water, the sharks will come. All I have to do is sit back and watch as the world consumes you."
    Sigismund made a demi god bleed, blessed by heretical gods, Sigismund died like all Heroes should.
    With his sword in his enemy's gut.
    Abaddon has never forgotten this moment, no, he is always reminded by the scars made by a mortal man.

    • @danielcharnock2854
      @danielcharnock2854 4 роки тому +8

      Sigismund is an Astartes and therefore not a mortal man... Infact Sigismund is on the same level as Abbadon... An immortal astartes from the heresy era who actually knew their father... If anything it only proves abbadon to be the more powerful warrior as he won despite not wanting to kill Sigismund while Sigismund totally did want to kill the despoiler

    • @GruwskiTheDogski
      @GruwskiTheDogski 4 роки тому +19

      @@danielcharnock2854 He can die of old age yes? Then yes, he is a mortal man.
      He is a super human, not a god.
      A man made far stronger than any other normal human to boot.
      Hence the factor of why he is a mortal man.

    • @nitelitestudios9824
      @nitelitestudios9824 4 роки тому +8

      Daniel Charnock but Sigismund aged. He’s mortal...just not very good at it.

    • @Steeltael
      @Steeltael 4 роки тому +13

      I think the point being made is that Abbadon was wearing superior armor, had superior weapons, and had been blessed by the Dark Gods. Giving him beyond Astartes level stats. That and he probably had Drachnyen......

    • @kelman727
      @kelman727 4 роки тому +14

      Steeltael Wolf
      1st Black Crusade. He didn’t have it at that point.
      Sigismund had aged where Abaddon had not.

  • @OldManMoko
    @OldManMoko 4 роки тому +134

    So lore wise Abbadon admits that he would have lost to Sig in his prime and out of respect he had sigs body cleaned and returned to the imperium for proper burial, undefiled and untouched

    • @Pedro-zu3uq
      @Pedro-zu3uq 4 роки тому +7

      True, he sent some trolling in the sword thou.

    • @absolute-focus
      @absolute-focus 4 роки тому +17

      Abaddon never admits that he would of lost to Sigismund in his prime its Sigismund who says he would of killed him at the Seige of Terra if lesser men didn't get in his way.
      As of the 4th Seige of Terra novel I not sure Sigismund would of anymore. Abaddon is a brutal warrior in those novels so far. Like Sangunius said Abaddon was the best of the Space Marines, all aspects of warfare in perfect balance.

    • @hamanu666
      @hamanu666 3 роки тому +10

      @@absolute-focus Yet he keeps getting teleported out of danger when he's about to lose a battle, took 13 crusades and nearly 10,000 years to actually beat Cadia and it took sacrificing a Blackstone Fortress, an invaluable strategic resource to do so. He even lost a battle to Eldraad who is over the hill physically. There is a reason hes known as Failbaddon by 40k community. We are told how bad ass he is, but he always comes out short when he actually gets to fight.

    • @absolute-focus
      @absolute-focus 3 роки тому +21

      @@hamanu666 13 failed Black Crusades to take Cadia 🤔............ yet in the lore starting with the third Choas Codex which came out in 1998 and which is the first codex to mention Abaddon and the Black Crusades clearly states that each Black Crusade had its own goal which he achieved. Then in 2003 the Eye of Terra codex came out detailing each goal of the Black Crusades and this codex is the first codex to mention the 13th Black Crusade against Cadia.
      He sacrificed a Black Stone Fortress to win. What's this a command using strategy to actually win a battle. A battle which split the Imperium in half and covered it in warp storms giving Choas a MASSIVE advantage over the Imperium..........madness.
      If you had read the White Dwarf actually about his fight with the Elders you'd of know it was writing as a joke which Jarvi Johnson said it was because he gets his arms cut off taking the piss because the old model the arms kept falling off.
      Kept teleporting out of danger. That only happened once at the Seige of Terra after he killed 2 well know Horus Heresy characters and dominated a 3rd all in the same fight.
      The reason he's know as "Failaddon" is because the "Failaddon" meme lovers to lazy to pick up a book and read the lore instead of getting there lore from memes 🤦‍♂️

    • @memesterjohnson1402
      @memesterjohnson1402 3 роки тому

      @@absolute-focus he lost a physical FIGHT with a older eldar wizard and lost to Saint celistean who is only a "greater deamon" of the emperor! He is a Failure. Also thirteen crusades with multiple warbands of traitorous marines should have done more than take 1 planet of significance to the imperuim by the way and it cost him a invaluable SUPER weapon.

  • @LoganSearles
    @LoganSearles 4 роки тому +17

    The black Templar’s vs the black legion something I never realized how Much
    I needed it

  • @40kbrit47
    @40kbrit47 4 роки тому +205

    If sigismund caught abbadon at the siege of terra he would of wiped his arse with abbadon.

    • @BM-is5ei
      @BM-is5ei 4 роки тому +35

      I think people underestimate Failbaddon. In the Crusade and even heresy days he was considered to be a killing machine.
      SPOILERS: he basically gets almost killed at the siege of terra bc he thought it was a good idea to attack in full force (1st company) by teleporting into the palace only to find out that basically all loyal war heroes (Garro, Loken, Sigismund ...) were waiting for them and he lost his whole company within minutes and almost died himself. BUT he single handedly killed dozens of loyalists.

    • @LMGunslinger
      @LMGunslinger 4 роки тому +25

      @@BM-is5ei idk man, in the book when they were talking about this fight they mention how much slower and decrepit sigismund has gotten in his old age, in comparison to his youth.

    • @ragingmoderate6791
      @ragingmoderate6791 4 роки тому +17

      I was going to this same thing. Dont they even say in one of the siege of terra books that Sigismund is like the greatest of all the legions champions? Meaning of the 18 legions if they put all their best in a room Sigismund would come out on top.

    • @BM-is5ei
      @BM-is5ei 4 роки тому +5

      @@ragingmoderate6791 i dont know those statements are just weird to me bc there are some serious hitters in the legions. I dont think i would go as far as to say Sigismund is the greatest. There are just so many who are total freaks in battle.

    • @ragingmoderate6791
      @ragingmoderate6791 4 роки тому +9

      @@BM-is5ei I think I'm thinking of the line where he was called "the greatest duelist to ever wear ceramite" I took that to mean the most badass in a one to one fight. Not to say that Kahn, Abaddon, Raldoron, the asshole duelist from the emperors children, Qin Xa, or Ahzek Ahrimand wouldnt be able to beat him just that his dueling abilities were unparalleled.

  • @drummerdanny1269
    @drummerdanny1269 4 роки тому +28

    I really want to listen to a novel of Dante fighting Abaddon. I think that Dante should be the one to slay Abaddon. It would be like a rematch between Sanguinius and Horus.

    • @JSTaylor556
      @JSTaylor556 4 роки тому +2

      I have wanted that since I was 19 (and I'm 42 now) but ill be damned if I'm not scared to see it happen, cause I don't think Dante survives it.

    • @drummerdanny1269
      @drummerdanny1269 4 роки тому +6

      @@JSTaylor556 I think that he will. He rejuvenates with the red thirst and then confronts him. If things get bad, he can always use the black rage as a last resort. The problem with that option is to see if he could control it and come back from that state. I'm sure that Dante could pulled it off.
      Dante's achievements are insane. Even the Sanguinor sees something in him. To lead a chapter for more than a 1,000 years makes you a beast.Also, Sanguinius saw him in his visions 10,000 years before Dante was even born. I think Sanguinius knew that Dante would achieve something great in the future.

    • @Crimsonhighlander
      @Crimsonhighlander 4 роки тому

      @@drummerdanny1269 I imagine two things happening in a confrontation like that;
      Either, Dante has both the Black Rage and the Emperor's Blessing to overcome Abaddon's Chaotic Empowerment and finally put the Warmaster down, or, and this would be juicy, the fight escalates to the point where, just before Dante can strike him down, the four gods of Chaos reach some sort of unholy agreement, and Abaddon finally transcends into a Daemon Prince, striking back with such speed and ferocity that none could hope to escape.
      In pushing Abaddon (and with him, the will of Chaos as a whole) to his limits, whosoever champions the cause of fighting Chaos could very well release a whole new and far more dangerous power upon the galaxy.

    • @drummerdanny1269
      @drummerdanny1269 4 роки тому +1

      @@Crimsonhighlander Let's hope that doesn't happen. I want Dante to kill that bastard 😆. Mind you,the Salamanders are my favorite chapter,but Dante is definitely the best chapter master in my opinion. It takes a special kind of SM to lead when the BA forces are not as many as other chapters.

    • @Crimsonhighlander
      @Crimsonhighlander 4 роки тому

      @@drummerdanny1269 Mmm, I'm an Acolyte of Chaos, through n' through, but Abaddon has never been a favorite of mine. As long as he goes out in spectacular fashion, I wouldn't lose any sleep over his death. Especially if it means something bigger and badder taking his place.
      In my deepest, darkest, and most wild dreams, I see the death of The Despoiler, only for his corpse to be unceremoniously cast aside, his powers absorbed and the reins of the Black Crusade taken up by the one true Chosen of the Gods, Be'Lakor. The First. The Shadowlord. And the most underrated Chaos HQ we currently have, IMO.
      But that's basically a fever dream at this point lol. My own personal fanfic narrative. I'll just quietly continue to play my Chaos to that tune, and paint all my Daemons in shades of black and grey to better serve my favorite character.

  • @nicholascerillo4000
    @nicholascerillo4000 4 роки тому +51

    Starting BT week with Sigismund vs Abaddon? How can we possibly raise the bar from here this week, Rho? HOW?!

  • @davesobani9565
    @davesobani9565 4 роки тому +21

    I am again convinced that the indomitus trailer and boxset should have been black templars

    • @OldManMoko
      @OldManMoko 4 роки тому

      Apparently the saga of the beast box set was originally gonna be orks and Templar’s

    • @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven
      @PrimarisBlackTemplaDraven 3 роки тому +1

      I will never accept the primaris since they're not created by the Emperor they're created the mechanicus and that is Heresy

  • @bizarreworld2510
    @bizarreworld2510 4 роки тому +29

    I would love to see Sigismund reappearing as a Living Saint for the Black Templars or rise up through the psychic fires of the Emperor born anew like how Ferus Manus appeared in the Webway

  • @Alpharius708
    @Alpharius708 4 роки тому +139

    I,Cato Sicarius, can take both on and win.

    • @CoolSmoovie
      @CoolSmoovie 4 роки тому +24

      “FFAAAHHHCK OOFFfFfFfffF”

    • @darthgorthaur258
      @darthgorthaur258 4 роки тому +13

      My godness Cato Sicarius is turning up every time the wolf lord posts, are you Cato Sicarius aware of something that we who are not Cato Sicarius not aware of like you Cato Sicarius are ? Well Cato Sicarius lol...

    • @Alpharius708
      @Alpharius708 4 роки тому +8

      ooooow i cato sicarius can’t feel my teeth wuwuwuwuwwuwuw

    • @Alpharius708
      @Alpharius708 4 роки тому +6

      oh man emperor why so much hate for I, Cato Sicarius.

    • @thehandoftheking3314
      @thehandoftheking3314 4 роки тому +3

      I raise you Sly Marbo

  • @gaelicpride_6353
    @gaelicpride_6353 4 роки тому +14

    Sigismund is easily one of the greatest characters to have ever come from Warhammer 40k. Throughout his entire service as both the First Captain of the Imperial Fists and later the High Marshal of the Black Templars he was an unparalleled warrior. During the Siege of Terra, after he takes the mantle of Emperors Champion for the first time, he single handedly sought out champions of the traitor legions and left each and every one of them dying in the dirt. Even in his advanced age he is able to gravely wound Abaddon, knowing it will most likely end with his death. He is sheer determination and absolute will made manifest, truly one of the greatest servants of the Emperor. Damn, think it's time I start a Black Templar army.

    • @JSTaylor556
      @JSTaylor556 4 роки тому +1

      Dem assault intercessors and blade guard veterans in a BT army tho....

  • @LukiPWN
    @LukiPWN 4 роки тому +18

    MARSHAL RHO, REPORTING FOR DUTY

  • @darrianweathington1923
    @darrianweathington1923 3 роки тому +4

    the more interesting thing is that Sigismund is such a amazing person that even abaddon respects him

  • @Naramsit
    @Naramsit 3 роки тому +3

    Abaddon may be Warmaster Chaos but, even still, when he said "Don't make me do this, don't make me kill you, you can't help but wonder, do some of the chaos marines still believe what they are doing is just?

  • @jessegay49
    @jessegay49 4 роки тому +1

    You are my favorite Warhammer channel! Every video is so nice to listen too and you got me into the Black Library books! The lore to this universe is just SO expansive but you do an EXCELLENT job of telling it’s story! Great job!

  • @jamesricciuti4400
    @jamesricciuti4400 2 роки тому

    Wonderful video. Edge of my seat. I am reading this book. Thanks so much for featuring it.

  • @TKUltra971
    @TKUltra971 4 роки тому +9

    TTS Dorn: "I want to PUNCH every SIGISMUND I can FIND" **GRRRR**** Lolol.

  • @starwars234ful
    @starwars234ful 4 роки тому +46

    Sigismund was one of the most bad ass marines to ever live. I fully agree that Sigismund would kill Abaddon if Sigismund was in his prime. Hearing how he nearly killed Abaddon and being an old man. I can only imagine how he would cut Abaddon in two when he was faster and stronger.

    • @alexyoblick
      @alexyoblick 4 роки тому +15

      Yeah the fact that when Abaddon is describing the event to a sorcerer he admits that if Sigismund was still in his prime it wouldn’t matter how much Abadddon had been buffed. Just speaks as to how brutal and deadly the 1st Emperors Champion was.

    • @Black_Blow_Fly
      @Black_Blow_Fly 4 роки тому +3

      Sigismund was clearly made from a fabric unlike any other Marine. Abbadon simply won because you know -> plot armor and Abbadon is such a Mary Sue.

    • @absolute-focus
      @absolute-focus 4 роки тому +2

      I used to believe that until the 4th Seige of Terra novel. Now i dont think Sigismund could do it.

    • @absolute-focus
      @absolute-focus 4 роки тому +3

      Plus what ALOT of people forget is Abaddon wasn't as his prime when he faced Sigismund. Alot of the Black Legion novel is on about how Abaddon his at his psychical and mental limit because of the Dark Gods plaguing his dreams and so he doesn't sleep anymore. Khayon says he's close to shattering.

    • @Black_Blow_Fly
      @Black_Blow_Fly 4 роки тому +1

      Jonathan Rice who cares what you think though 😂😂😂

  • @adutchman1403
    @adutchman1403 4 роки тому +1

    I'm so happy this channel is steadily growing.

  • @eosphorusthegracefallen5195
    @eosphorusthegracefallen5195 4 роки тому

    I watch your vids with the awe & passion as when I read the books & especially those moments, encounters, battles, charachter defining/developing renditions, fratricidal & patricidal relations that I feel you deeply appreciate & honestly love the lore as much & as deep as I do.
    So to me, your vids kinda reflect my thoughts & feelings & return me to those precious moments I experienced when I read the books. I is a great format you developed.
    Pure love of the lore. No bickering, quarreling, arguing.. etc. Just pure love for this universe & its epic stories & sagas. (& of course, the gems of lore your vids are renowned for.)
    Keep it up bro!
    Imperium Victor!

  • @brothermykaelis7343
    @brothermykaelis7343 3 роки тому +7

    After this epic scene it translates into Abaddon being hospitalized to organ failure. They go through extreme lengths to save him, and his personal Sorcerer Iskandor straight slaughters everyone that witnessed the duel so no one could speak of what happened. To keep Abaddon's failure a secret.

  • @tylerhamar2123
    @tylerhamar2123 4 роки тому

    Love you Wolf Lord. I just started this hobby and a big part of it is because you got me into the lore!

  • @charlesdunn6694
    @charlesdunn6694 4 роки тому +7

    Okay, you’ve convinced me. I just bought “Black Legion”.

    • @Pedro-zu3uq
      @Pedro-zu3uq 4 роки тому +1

      Good buy, the sequel "Talon of Horus" keeps up the quality too.

  • @Teyl1
    @Teyl1 4 роки тому +7

    I wish I could post a screenshot. I've never been this early to a video before and what a winner this is.

  • @swordbrethrenjrbear1693
    @swordbrethrenjrbear1693 4 роки тому

    So cool that the black Templars are finally on your channel been waiting for this for a minute ⚔️💀⚔️

  • @paulburns2363
    @paulburns2363 3 роки тому

    Truely inspiring read. Your enthusiasim and cadence provide for an awesome mental image. Bravo...

  • @hrolfbjornson6666
    @hrolfbjornson6666 4 роки тому +6

    The Truest Son of Dorn

  • @RyDog905
    @RyDog905 4 роки тому +4

    Holy shite, earliest I've found a video. And about Dorn's first Angry Boi? Excellent

  • @hateme5327
    @hateme5327 2 роки тому +2

    Sigismund: I learned to chain my sword to my arm so I don't lose it from the filthy heretics.
    Black library: So Sigismund lost his sword....

  • @Jim2529
    @Jim2529 4 роки тому +5

    I highly recommend the audiobook version of this book! I'm listening to it right now and unlike many other books this one feels like it was made for the format. Great stuff!

    • @Stierlitz
      @Stierlitz 4 роки тому

      Man, Jonathan Keeble is the shit. Amazing narrator, he actually seems to get the story plus he does the voices of the individual characters so well!

    • @danekrull7834
      @danekrull7834 3 роки тому +1

      I've literally listened to it like 4 or 5 times all the way thru.... Absolutely one of my favorites

  • @karlhoward1474
    @karlhoward1474 4 роки тому

    Always enjoy your vids mate, thanks

  • @emperorconstantine1.361
    @emperorconstantine1.361 4 роки тому +24

    A true death for the faithful of the Imperial Creed’s best fighting martyr!!
    😭😭😭

  • @Sw00per_actual
    @Sw00per_actual 4 роки тому

    Your passion for the lore always draws me in... The Black Templars are the first chapeter I read about in my first 40K book War for Armageddon not long ago... I am hooked.

  • @702Jamy
    @702Jamy 4 роки тому +15

    It’s honourable that Abaddon returned the body of Sigismund to the Imperium after that as an act of honour

    • @franconnorton7087
      @franconnorton7087 4 роки тому +7

      Abbadon conflicts me. Hes the warleader of chaos but doesn't seem to like it much. Is a traitor but never betrayed his father and still follows his will while proclaiming his hate. Has a sense of honour while being the one of most treacherous people in fiction.

    • @TheChaoticEntertainment
      @TheChaoticEntertainment 4 роки тому +8

      @@franconnorton7087 it's very heavily implied he doesn't like the Dark Gods. He doesn't want to destroy the Imperium, he wants to rule it.

    • @franconnorton7087
      @franconnorton7087 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheChaoticEntertainment He'd be a better leader to be honest. How much patience would he have for the high lords games for example.

    • @charile13747
      @charile13747 4 роки тому +5

      @@franconnorton7087 Somebody was rooting for Marc Antony on HBO's Rome I take it.

    • @commieKalmarunion
      @commieKalmarunion 4 роки тому +1

      @@charile13747 not a reference i ever expected to see on a 40k vid, but damn it's fitting

  • @chaplainludolus7180
    @chaplainludolus7180 3 роки тому +1

    “Somehow well thx to his terminator armor, the dark gods or through force of will” cough* plot armor

  • @brianrhodes9228
    @brianrhodes9228 4 роки тому +6

    I loved this scene so much when I read the book. Just how both commanders approached one another and Abaddon truely wanted to spare Sigismund.

  • @Sol_Invictus510
    @Sol_Invictus510 4 роки тому

    Great start to Black Templar week! Helsreach and in it the badass Grimaldus was my first introduction to 40k.

  • @alphacypher7099
    @alphacypher7099 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely amazing video.

  • @lukejay5460
    @lukejay5460 4 роки тому +2

    Reading the 1st 2 books made me fall in love with the Black Legion

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 4 роки тому +1

      Talon of Horus and Black Legion ...... awesome!

  • @limeyndixie
    @limeyndixie 4 роки тому +2

    Can’t wait for the Helsreach excerpts... 😍😍😍

  • @racspartan1
    @racspartan1 4 роки тому

    Excellent 👍. This whole Scene is just Epic.

  • @johnphillips6515
    @johnphillips6515 4 роки тому +1

    Such a great scene. One of my favourites, with some great writingfrom ADB. But what an absolute bad-ass final line from Sigismund!

  • @PandaSey25
    @PandaSey25 4 роки тому +5

    🔴 ABADDON "Don't make me Kill you!"
    Clearly stage fright from his very 1st Crusade

  • @voytek6520
    @voytek6520 4 роки тому

    Great read brother! Keep Crushing! Black Templars are really special, Im thinking about buliding their Army!

  • @cuddlestheadorable1153
    @cuddlestheadorable1153 4 роки тому

    excellent vid i appreciate the vids more when rho is passionate about the subject

  • @jerrelljerrellholmes1075
    @jerrelljerrellholmes1075 4 роки тому +1

    That was amazing, damn I am really happy to come across this 🙏🙏👍🤯🤯👌

  • @TotallyNotJustCynical
    @TotallyNotJustCynical 4 роки тому +3

    When my Sigismund model arrives I'm going to use him as my emperors champion in games. My friends are okay with it and the guy is just the coolest character you could want to chop people with.

    • @alexyoblick
      @alexyoblick 4 роки тому +1

      Quaid Dalton there is a Black Templars player that goes to the same store as me and he basically has done that exact thing.

  • @matics453
    @matics453 4 роки тому +2

    Sigusmind: Even in death I still roast thee...!

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 4 роки тому +1

    Just like Sanguinius' death became a catalyst for the Black Rage, the famed rage of the Black Templars is a result of the rage at the death of Sigismund. Beautiful video!

  • @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968
    @stevenhernandeznon-profitf968 4 роки тому +1

    Ok I listening to this several more times and it’s better each time! The conversation is similar to the face off between alpharious and dorn.

  • @marcking9760
    @marcking9760 4 роки тому

    Dude this is such a sick video ❤

  • @brettgattinger3338
    @brettgattinger3338 3 роки тому +3

    I like to think that Sigismund's final words cut Abbadon more deeply than the Black Sword buried in his chest

  • @LordMuffinToken
    @LordMuffinToken 4 роки тому +2

    the fight in saturnine was also awesome. had me grip my chair

  • @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277
    @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 4 роки тому +17

    I finished "Black Legion" two days ago. ADB is a great writer.

    • @muratferguson4534
      @muratferguson4534 4 роки тому +1

      i have to correct you: THE BEST

    • @headlibrarian1996
      @headlibrarian1996 4 роки тому +1

      Still waiting for the followup.

    • @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277
      @anastasiosgkotzamanis5277 4 роки тому

      Yes, i agree he is the best. I mean, i'm a Space Wolves fan and one of the best novels about them is "The Emperor's Gift", where the protagonist is a Grey Knight. I just didn't want to sound absolute and disrespect writers like Abnett and Wright. And when is the next Black Legion novel going to be unleashed?!?!?

  • @zavion12345
    @zavion12345 4 роки тому +33

    I've never clicked on something so fast as this video!

    • @John-dp3lo
      @John-dp3lo 4 роки тому +1

      I have but in my defense I was only a teenager at the time.

    • @truffelnootje
      @truffelnootje 4 роки тому +2

      I ordered my favourite meal witch will arrive soon, rolled a joint( im dutch) and got me a pint of beer, and now I sit, and I shall hear this great read. This is my 40K evening.

  • @JohnTandy74
    @JohnTandy74 4 роки тому

    Hearts-Breaking poor Sigismund!! Great vid agreed ADB is a legend

  • @joshuapolites374
    @joshuapolites374 4 роки тому +15

    Think about it Abaddon wouldn't have had those claws in the first fight and sigismund would have been in his prime. I think a Abaddon would have got spanked!

    • @absolute-focus
      @absolute-focus 3 роки тому

      I used to think that until the Seige of Terra novels. Now seeing how Abaddon is in them I don't think Sigismund could beat Abaddon even if he was in his prime.

    • @Sanch0JR
      @Sanch0JR 2 роки тому

      Those are ifs, not what happened and abbadon still took a powerfist into combat, nothing wouldve changed

  • @konradsommer6927
    @konradsommer6927 4 роки тому +53

    Sigismund almost killed him, but the talon ripped him in half

    • @konradsommer6927
      @konradsommer6927 3 роки тому +1

      Andrew Gray well I think abaddon is mentioned to be extremely quick with the talon so Sigismund probably didn’t have the chance cut him in half, also the traitor was in terminator amour making him pretty tanky

  • @davidmacon1138
    @davidmacon1138 2 роки тому

    "Nobody could prepare to fight Sigusmund!"
    *Sevetar looks to Malek of the Atramentar* "Hold my chain-glaive.."

  • @monkeylugz
    @monkeylugz 4 роки тому +6

    *Forn Dorn Sigusmund and the EMPEROR ❤️

  • @PsychopathUltimate
    @PsychopathUltimate 3 роки тому

    Taking the gamble swing at the worst odds, connecting the best hit you could hope for, making the most of it, checking all the hallmarks of a landslide victory to the very end, yet denied what's earned.

  • @grunty144
    @grunty144 4 роки тому +1

    Literally just thought of checking if you had any new videos to watch and I see you just uploaded this 32 seconds ago lol!

  • @Truegrade
    @Truegrade Рік тому

    I came back to listen to this again, it’s that good! Sigismund was that good🗡️

  • @johnnieschatz693
    @johnnieschatz693 4 роки тому

    EXCELLENT!!!

  • @tyberiusmartyn38
    @tyberiusmartyn38 4 роки тому +1

    "Only You Sigismund Would Pursue A Grudge To The Very Borders Of Hell That's A Hatred So Pure I Can't Help But Admire It"
    "I Suffer Not The Unclean To Live
    ATTACK!!!"
    The Fuckin Balls On Him

  • @captainflapjax7240
    @captainflapjax7240 4 роки тому +6

    100% Sigismund would've straight carved through Abaddon if he'd caught him at Terra

  • @igneous061
    @igneous061 4 роки тому +4

    Absolutely love those two black legion books...especialy audiobook version

    • @Stierlitz
      @Stierlitz 4 роки тому

      Yes! This! Man, I've listened to Talon of Horus like twenty times already. The books are great and Jonathan Keeble is the shit!

    • @PressA2Die
      @PressA2Die 3 роки тому

      @@Stierlitz Yeah Jonathan Keeble has great range, probably the best narrator I've ever heard. He can inflect get nobility in one sentence, to a slathering beastman in the next.

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora 4 роки тому

    One word: Glorious.

  • @Dakooties
    @Dakooties 4 роки тому

    By the throne! My favorite chapter!

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 4 роки тому +1

    That quote about Sigismund is one of, if not the, most baller quote in all of 40k. Almost makes me want some Templars. Is there something special about Sig's black sword?

    • @warlordwurzoggwigsplittaht2933
      @warlordwurzoggwigsplittaht2933 4 роки тому +1

      The black sword is made out of some super rare and strong meteorite kinda like lion El Johnson's lion blade. Whenever there's a crazy powerfully sword in 40k it's either a demon blade or some kinda meteorite sword. Hope that helps.

  • @wessthemess117
    @wessthemess117 4 роки тому +1

    That was intense😳

  • @deeezey_2239
    @deeezey_2239 4 роки тому

    If you done audiobooks I'd fully buy them
    P.s never listened to one in my life

  • @metalman653
    @metalman653 4 роки тому

    perfect. just in time for me starting my black temp army with indomitus.

  • @darianroberts1427
    @darianroberts1427 4 роки тому

    Black templars got me into 40k, my favorite chapter

  • @vbenthusiast
    @vbenthusiast 4 роки тому +1

    This Darth Vader vs Obi Wan story is 👌

  • @ooPandora
    @ooPandora 4 роки тому +1

    Just an observation I think that’s
    E-Z-Key-al (or El the end) phonetically. Great vid

  • @FireRevanShadow
    @FireRevanShadow 4 роки тому +1

    Purging with brothers is fun!

  • @lukejay5460
    @lukejay5460 4 роки тому

    Can't wait for book 3

  • @marsolan9871
    @marsolan9871 4 роки тому +9

    The Emperor protects!

  • @aitoriri1
    @aitoriri1 4 роки тому

    Maybe that Indomitus box set i get should be all ready to crusade. What a beast was Sigismund, love how stoic he is, he is a son of Dorn after all