I am still struggling a little with catching up to my upload schedule, so to buy myself a little more time I moved this forward! I did always want to upload a full version of my multi-part videos for those who just want to listen to them all in one! I also got to fix the audio, at least a bit, for the first part which was a little low in the original video. Like, comment and subscribe if you enjoy, as usual, as it does certainly help! Hopefully my schedule shall be back to normal soon! My thanks for watching!
I love that Sigismund sees a demon primarch about to kill one of his brothers and he just charges in, absolutely no fucks given and fighting with everything he has.
I love how sigismund likely knows he has absolutely no chance at winning but he still charges at fulgrim completely fearlessly. The line that he cannoned into him just makes me thing that sigismund just curled up into a ball and literally got fired at him
“Are you sure about this, champion? These guns are designed for mass reactive shells and-“ “DID I FUCKING STUTTER?! FIRE!” (Loud thump in the distance. Hurtling across the battlefield is Sigismund, with his sword held out in front of him. As he whizzes past a group of marines, they can faintly hear him crying “FOR THE EMPEROOooooo-“)
Sigismunds bravery and dedication to duty overrides any sense of self preservation he is truly the template which every astartes should be made, it also puts into perspective just how brave the imperial army are because they stand with no trans human ability or conditioning
Glad someone mentioned it 😂 maybe the most brotherly thing I can remember seeing or hearing from the primarchs. So petty it had to be from the familiar.
@@piercebrosnan9528 best meme of the 21st century, id love it idmf they wrote the great and mighty Leroy into the 30-40k lore ,the bravest of humanity 😂
Dorn has always been my favorite primarch, I know he catches a lot of flak because he’s such a central figure in the heresy books but by God does he have some cold lines. He’s not a petulant crybaby or bitter little turd like so many of his other brothers, he has a job and he does it. He doesn’t try to beg fulgrim to repent he simply tells him he’s going to kill him.
Well at this point none of them do really. Even Sanguinius doesn’t attempt to turn Horus back, he just tells him he’s become something that makes him feel terror just to look at, and cuts the conversation short with a raise of his sword, determined to fight him anyway. And of course he had no words at all for Angron as he was pulling his brain out the back of his head.
I love the image of Sigismund swinging wildly at Fulgrim who's like "WHO'S DOG IS THIS". Your Fulgrim is also perfect, the subtle reverb the casual condescending tone. Great VO
Fulgim that had given in to all that slannesh offers, the clone that fabulous Bill had is everything that shattered from his soul which is everything that demon Fulgrim can only dream of being , id honestly love for the loyalist Fulgrim clone to return and square off against his demon counterpart , if they could work it into the story and make it work that the loyalist saved Robute,that would be epic,even if it means the clone dies but can you imagine how salty it would make the demon Fulgrim seeing everything he wanted to be made manifest in front of him yet so far out of reach
The delivery when you said "I'm not under siege today" you really nailed the rogal dorn version of a huge grin at the prospect of getting to own perturabo and wail on fulgrim on the same day
I hope games workshop would write atleast a short story on the fight between Dorn and the Emperor's Children Elite... it would be fantastic to see even a glimpse of Dorn's brutal but efficient way of fighting just like his duel with Alpharius.
I think the issue is that when they write the books there are the main story books and a whole lot of side quest books that sometime intertwine with the main plot, people tend to skip but the minor plot books alot of times have all the juicy stuff. I forget the Daemons name but it was the strongest one to the point it rivaled gods forget the lore and story involved but it could manifest worlds and ships by the warp it’s main ship was a imperial ship turned to the warp and it mutated it was a pretty cool grand space battle as the fleet it used were ships that went missing or registered Kia i forget the book I know it is in one of the lesser Horus Heresy books.
@@allenaju1856in this case, all of this, including the fight between Dorn and the EC elite, is all in Saturnine, one of the major books in the Siege series. Which only has…2 side novellas I believe. The only important one being The Wrath of Magnus.
Like him or not Rogal Dorn is an absolute beast in combat . You cannot break his will . His will is so strong chaos doesnt even try to corrupt him . They know it wouldnt work .
Excerpt: Just blood. Blood for- How long ago was that? Who was there? Does it matter? Which side was he on? He tries to order the available facts. He was a warrior who just wanted to kill. They wouldn’t let him. They wanted him to think. They wanted him to decide everything. They wanted him to order the available facts because they said he was good at it. He didn’t want to decide. He didn’t want to have to make those decisions. It was killing him. He never told anyone that. He wanted to stop and make somebody else decide, make somebody else order the available facts. All he wanted to do was to go to the walls and forget it all and fight, a man with a sword. Just fight. No thought. No decisions. Just fight, mindlessly, free, the way the others did. Just fight. Spill blood. That’s all. Just blood. Blood for the- Just give up. ‘I am Rogal Dorn, defiant,’ says Rogal Dorn. Just give in. ‘I am Rogal Dorn,’ says Rogal Dorn, sitting in the crimson shadow under the red wall. Are you even that? Were you ever? Just give up. ‘I am Rogal,’ says Rogal. Not even that. Don’t think. That’s all you really wanted, isn’t it? Not to have to think any more? You can do that here, in the shadow of the wall. Just give up. Give in. He orders the available facts. ‘I…’ he says. Is there anything he’s certain of any longer? All the facts have rusted, and all the thoughts have gone. There is only blood. That’s all he really wanted. Give in to that. ‘I…’ he says. Just blood. Say it. ‘I…’ Say it. Say blood. The thing you wanted. ‘Blood,’ he says softly. Soft as the flecks of rust the dry breeze lifts in horsetail plumes from the ridges of the dunes. Say it again. ‘Blood.’ Who is the blood for? ‘For-’ Say it. Who is the blood for? ‘Blood for the-’ For? For whom? He’s waiting for you. You just have to say it.
Yeah you forget Dorn is also the father of the Black Templar. He might be all calm and control, but he also walked out into a ruse just for the possibility of taking Horus's scalp. The dude is the walking definition of cold fury.
And here I though Dorn was the embodiment of the Emperor's will and not his savagery.... "Sigismund's courage sometimes outstrips his abilities...mine doesn't" *Goddamn leave some savagery for us mortals too ! Edit - *Emperordamn
Whoever is voicing Fulgrim is the perfect voice for him. That person needs to put on GWs payroll to voice Fulgrim and and EC characters from now on. That voice is forever Fulgrim to me now.
@@danielquintonvo I wasn’t sure because you are so talented with your voices. I meant what I said. That Fulgrim voice is just so damned perfect for the character. I want to hear it in GW works and Henry Cavills universe. It’s damned good for EC and Fulgrim. It chilled me to the bone while still sounding sweet to my ear. Just absolutely perfect.
The fact Dorn is able to decimate Fulgrim, who regarded as one of the best duelest amongst the primarchs, is a testament to his martial prowess. Not to mention he achieved this AFTER Fulgrim gets a power boost from Chaos shows how strong of a warrior the Praetorian is. In this fight, Dorn is the prime example of the saying "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
I’m going to be annoying, but it’s only for future reference, not to be a dick. That phrase does not apply to this situation, because this is a fight to begin with. To “speak softly, but carry a big stick” means to be rational and polite in your dealings, but to also possess an intimidating asset with the ultimate goal of avoiding violence. Applies to diplomacy.
I cannot believe that it took me this long to see it; This is the fist and only battle between primarchs, who have killed one of their brothers. The true low points. The obstinate repressing introvert, the arrogant insecure extrovert. The symbolism is thick.
I think you accidentally copy-pasted the description of your Dantioch and Pollux voiceover into this video, instead of the proper description stating this is the full version of your Saturnine voiceover of Sigismund and Rogal Dorn vs Fulgrim.
8:17 what is that word at 8:17 "that tore through fulgrims courgette"? is that really "courgette" like the zucchini courgette?Im sorry but i dont know and understand that word
I always like and love the conversation and fight between Emperor sons and dont care about random characters in 40k i just love every character in HH but i dont know why i cant find any love or like 90% of 40k characters except a few like dante or lion and guilliman of course
Here’s one thing I never quite understand about the corrupted primarchs were they always destined to be corrupted? Or were they corrupted by coming in contact with fragments of chaos here or there thus any primacy is susceptible or were the ones affected always going to fall sooner or later
Spoiler alert: scene ending spoiled. I sugest you listen to the whole thing before reading further. As always great work on the reading. I do however think Abnett made an oopsie with this scene. I know he did proper forwshadowing for the outcome, but fulgrim is just being a weapons grade moron and basically goes full Eric Cartman (screw you i'm going home) after transforming into a demon primarch. It was like reading the worlds worst dad joke. Fortunetly the rest of the saturnine gambit is far more gratifying.
I mean... Yeah. But every WH book I've ever read has its eye rolling moments (except for Horus Rising) Usually they are much worse than this so I barely registered it here.
@@vlastelinprislic286 Yup there are far far worse i agree, It just annoys me. Not because of the ocational bad scene, but because I know Abnett can do much better, and because the rest of the book is so good.
why would fulgrim not finish the job himself, why leave it to his sons. I know he wants to see the emperor burn and die but horus is gonna make sure of that, why didn't fulgrim just kill dorn there?
I would like to get to more Lord of the Rings! It might take me a while to get to recording it but I shall add it to the list, still! My thanks for watching!
This is probably an unpopular opinion. But this is probably the worst of the Primarch fights It just feels like they had to give someone to Rogal to fight. Like there’s no real relationship between Dorn and Fulgrim Also Fulgrim getting his ass handed to him and just leaving is just kind of weird. Like why would he transform and then just leave? He could’ve easily killed Dorn The dialogue between the two is pretty good though, there are some really great lines here and you read them perfectly
As much as I hate fulgrim, Dorn didnt really can't be considered to have a win against Dorn. Fulgrim was bored and playing around, and cared more for entertainment. Had he cared to actually combat Dorn whether martially or strategically, Dorn would be beaten and humiliated, just like Guilliman was at his own game. But maybe that can be considered Fulgrim's weakness, that he can't be bothered to due to his "priorities"
@@zmsays he mainly cares that Dorn doesn't care. If anything, Dorn spoke a lot of trash, then let himself get lured into an ambush while fighting a guy he could never kill. Honestly, for how much people hyped up Dorn in this book, this was not the epic Imperial fists W everyone said it was. People just love making Sigismund and Rogal Dorn edits on youtube when the reality was that Fulgrim had them dead to rights.
@@Hawko1313 Why do people love shitting on Dorn. The dude even gives credit to Fulgrim and his legion when talking to the Angel at the end of the book. He says they could have done it by themselves. That's an extreme compliment and realization that if the legion weren't what they were now, the siege would be over. I don't agree that he was a joke, it read to me more like a tragedy to what they had become. Especially in the context that Fulgrim didn't want to be there in the first place, Lorgar had to pretty much bind him to come. Perty doesn't even get the Dorn level of hate when he basically beat his ass and treated Fulgrim like a clown, never having or showing any respect for him BEFORE he ascended.
D*** i*, man woman thing you bring me to the point of climax. And then toss me Asad with silence that was magnificent. That is it great retelling i'm a beautiful defense
I am still struggling a little with catching up to my upload schedule, so to buy myself a little more time I moved this forward! I did always want to upload a full version of my multi-part videos for those who just want to listen to them all in one! I also got to fix the audio, at least a bit, for the first part which was a little low in the original video.
Like, comment and subscribe if you enjoy, as usual, as it does certainly help! Hopefully my schedule shall be back to normal soon!
My thanks for watching!
Dude you have to to post the follow up fight of Dorn and Sigismind V. The elite emperor's children.
Thank you this being two parts has always been a blight!thank you for finally putting this together
“sigismund’s courage sometimes outstrips his abilities… Mine Doesn’t” is a cold fucking line
Best line in all of 40k for me
I love that Sigismund sees a demon primarch about to kill one of his brothers and he just charges in, absolutely no fucks given and fighting with everything he has.
“You’re just an idiot, standing on a wall.” Gotta love Dorn 😂
Fucking savage
@@seanslaysean7097 Dorn is the definition of this emoji 🗿 lmao
I love how sigismund likely knows he has absolutely no chance at winning but he still charges at fulgrim completely fearlessly. The line that he cannoned into him just makes me thing that sigismund just curled up into a ball and literally got fired at him
So now im just imagining rogal dorn basically fastball special day sigimund into fulgrim lmfao
“Are you sure about this, champion? These guns are designed for mass reactive shells and-“
“DID I FUCKING STUTTER?! FIRE!”
(Loud thump in the distance. Hurtling across the battlefield is Sigismund, with his sword held out in front of him. As he whizzes past a group of marines, they can faintly hear him crying “FOR THE EMPEROOooooo-“)
I think the far more interesting and impressive thing is Sigismund marked Fulgrims face with his blade.
Sigismund: HEY UNCLE ITS YAM TIME! *tackles the snake fucker*
Sigismunds bravery and dedication to duty overrides any sense of self preservation he is truly the template which every astartes should be made, it also puts into perspective just how brave the imperial army are because they stand with no trans human ability or conditioning
“Rogal Dolt” a primarch worthy zinger.
Glad someone mentioned it 😂 maybe the most brotherly thing I can remember seeing or hearing from the primarchs. So petty it had to be from the familiar.
Peter Turbo being like "Damn that was fire!"
"Deeds are my words." Rogal Fucking Dorn
youre just an idiot, standing on a wall.
-Rogal Dorn
Probably my 2nd favorite Dorn line, only behind the famous "No."
Sigismund the embodiment of let me hit it with my sword.
Fulgrim be like REEEEEEEEEEEEE
The ideal knight, valiant and immense strength.
More like if it bleeds it can be killed
And he did made him bleed !
Sigis-GigaChad-mund
Leeroy Jenkins-maxxing
@@piercebrosnan9528 best meme of the 21st century, id love it idmf they wrote the great and mighty Leroy into the 30-40k lore ,the bravest of humanity 😂
So nice of dorn to give fulgrim a chance to win by taking the fight from sigismund like that.
"You're just an idiot, standing on a wall."
I love it when Dorn talks like that.
Dorn has always been my favorite primarch, I know he catches a lot of flak because he’s such a central figure in the heresy books but by God does he have some cold lines. He’s not a petulant crybaby or bitter little turd like so many of his other brothers, he has a job and he does it. He doesn’t try to beg fulgrim to repent he simply tells him he’s going to kill him.
Both he and the Lion are my favorite primarchs. The embodiment of duty and willingness to fight to the last man.
Well at this point none of them do really. Even Sanguinius doesn’t attempt to turn Horus back, he just tells him he’s become something that makes him feel terror just to look at, and cuts the conversation short with a raise of his sword, determined to fight him anyway. And of course he had no words at all for Angron as he was pulling his brain out the back of his head.
I love the image of Sigismund swinging wildly at Fulgrim who's like "WHO'S DOG IS THIS". Your Fulgrim is also perfect, the subtle reverb the casual condescending tone. Great VO
Yea I literally imagine Sigismund almost frothing at the mouth coming at Fulgrim at such a speed he acts like a small dog about to attack
And then picture Dorn walking up chuckling with pride and fondness at his rabid good boy.
Rabid chihuahua energy.
“Space marine named princess” energy
I love the subtle second layer of Fulgrims voice.. that puppeteering demon in the back because thats all ever coming from fulgrim from now on
I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure it's just Fulgrim at this point in the heresy. He's just been horribly twisted and corrupted at this point
@@ryanperez5457 you are not wrong, this is pure FUlgrim
Fulgim that had given in to all that slannesh offers, the clone that fabulous Bill had is everything that shattered from his soul which is everything that demon Fulgrim can only dream of being , id honestly love for the loyalist Fulgrim clone to return and square off against his demon counterpart , if they could work it into the story and make it work that the loyalist saved Robute,that would be epic,even if it means the clone dies but can you imagine how salty it would make the demon Fulgrim seeing everything he wanted to be made manifest in front of him yet so far out of reach
@@Daemon1356fabulous bill lmfao
The delivery when you said "I'm not under siege today" you really nailed the rogal dorn version of a huge grin at the prospect of getting to own perturabo and wail on fulgrim on the same day
I hope games workshop would write atleast a short story on the fight between Dorn and the Emperor's Children Elite... it would be fantastic to see even a glimpse of Dorn's brutal but efficient way of fighting just like his duel with Alpharius.
He fights them in the book. In the following Rogal chapter.
@beriklest6954 I haven't read the book sir. Looking forward in reading it. Thanks for the info though...
Yes! It is a quite short clip though! But very good! The way Rogal and Sigismund annihilate all the 3rds elite is amazing to read/listen!
I think the issue is that when they write the books there are the main story books and a whole lot of side quest books that sometime intertwine with the main plot, people tend to skip but the minor plot books alot of times have all the juicy stuff. I forget the Daemons name but it was the strongest one to the point it rivaled gods forget the lore and story involved but it could manifest worlds and ships by the warp it’s main ship was a imperial ship turned to the warp and it mutated it was a pretty cool grand space battle as the fleet it used were ships that went missing or registered Kia i forget the book I know it is in one of the lesser Horus Heresy books.
@@allenaju1856in this case, all of this, including the fight between Dorn and the EC elite, is all in Saturnine, one of the major books in the Siege series. Which only has…2 side novellas I believe. The only important one being The Wrath of Magnus.
It's CRAZY this channel doesn't get more views. It's such a gold mine
Thank you very much! That means a lot
Like him or not Rogal Dorn is an absolute beast in combat . You cannot break his will . His will is so strong chaos doesnt even try to corrupt him . They know it wouldnt work .
Khorne actually attempt to corrupt him, though he failed, it was still a close call.
Excerpt:
Just blood. Blood for-
How long ago was that? Who was there?
Does it matter? Which side was he on?
He tries to order the available facts. He was a warrior who just wanted to kill. They wouldn’t let him. They wanted him to think. They wanted him to decide everything. They wanted him to order the available facts because they said he was good at it. He didn’t want to decide. He didn’t want to have to make those decisions. It was killing him. He never told anyone that. He wanted to stop and make somebody else decide, make somebody else order the available facts. All he wanted to do was to go to the walls and forget it all and fight, a man with a sword. Just fight. No thought. No decisions. Just fight, mindlessly, free, the way the others did. Just fight. Spill blood. That’s all. Just blood. Blood for the-
Just give up.
‘I am Rogal Dorn, defiant,’ says Rogal Dorn.
Just give in.
‘I am Rogal Dorn,’ says Rogal Dorn, sitting in the crimson shadow under the red wall.
Are you even that? Were you ever? Just give up.
‘I am Rogal,’ says Rogal.
Not even that. Don’t think. That’s all you really wanted, isn’t it? Not to have to think any more? You can do that here, in the shadow of the wall.
Just give up. Give in.
He orders the available facts.
‘I…’ he says. Is there anything he’s certain of any longer? All the facts have rusted, and all the thoughts have gone. There is only blood. That’s all he really wanted. Give in to that.
‘I…’ he says.
Just blood. Say it.
‘I…’
Say it. Say blood. The thing you wanted.
‘Blood,’ he says softly. Soft as the flecks of rust the dry breeze lifts in horsetail plumes from the ridges of the dunes.
Say it again.
‘Blood.’
Who is the blood for?
‘For-’
Say it. Who is the blood for?
‘Blood for the-’
For? For whom?
He’s waiting for you. You just have to say it.
Yeah you forget Dorn is also the father of the Black Templar.
He might be all calm and control, but he also walked out into a ruse just for the possibility of taking Horus's scalp.
The dude is the walking definition of cold fury.
>Be Khorne
>attempting to corrupt Rogal Dorn by playing the entropy game
>thousands of years pass
>Rogal refuses to leave
>elaborates
@@griffionwyvrus9063you really didnt need to do that, fuckn nerd
And here I though Dorn was the embodiment of the Emperor's will and not his savagery....
"Sigismund's courage sometimes outstrips his abilities...mine doesn't"
*Goddamn leave some savagery for us mortals too !
Edit - *Emperordamn
Love the understated menace of Fulgrim you've got going on here.
Thank you very much!
Damn, I didn’t want it to stop. Very well done @DQVO
Thank you very much!
Wargaming want us to believe Dorn got killed by simple traitor marines... :D
No
Finding only one hand and not the whole body practically screams "IM ONLY DEAD IN PRETEND!!!"
Plus if he did die, the CSM would be parading around with his head.
Sigismund be like a mad man that don't give a damn soul
all he need is to hit Fulgrim again
He is the Doomslayer of 40k. B)
Whoever is voicing Fulgrim is the perfect voice for him. That person needs to put on GWs payroll to voice Fulgrim and and EC characters from now on.
That voice is forever Fulgrim to me now.
I am voicing all of the characters and narration in this video.
Thank you very much! That does mean a lot to me! and, what a dream that would be.
@@danielquintonvo I wasn’t sure because you are so talented with your voices. I meant what I said. That Fulgrim voice is just so damned perfect for the character. I want to hear it in GW works and Henry Cavills universe.
It’s damned good for EC and Fulgrim. It chilled me to the bone while still sounding sweet to my ear. Just absolutely perfect.
@@danielquintonvo dude that's awesome
Siggi is such a fucking chad
The fact Dorn is able to decimate Fulgrim, who regarded as one of the best duelest amongst the primarchs, is a testament to his martial prowess. Not to mention he achieved this AFTER Fulgrim gets a power boost from Chaos shows how strong of a warrior the Praetorian is.
In this fight, Dorn is the prime example of the saying "Speak softly and carry a big stick."
I’m going to be annoying, but it’s only for future reference, not to be a dick. That phrase does not apply to this situation, because this is a fight to begin with.
To “speak softly, but carry a big stick” means to be rational and polite in your dealings, but to also possess an intimidating asset with the ultimate goal of avoiding violence. Applies to diplomacy.
I will have to re say a comment from the original video “sigusmund is the honey badger of the heresy” those things fear no man or god
I cannot believe that it took me this long to see it;
This is the fist and only battle between primarchs, who have killed one of their brothers.
The true low points. The obstinate repressing introvert, the arrogant insecure extrovert. The symbolism is thick.
The full cut was epic!
Thank you very much! I am glad the full version has been well received.
Your Fulgrim impression is the best amongst all voice channels.
Dorn almost seems like hes glad his more excentric brother is traitor so he never has to be spoken at by him again lol
I love how a majority of everyone’s headcanon voice of Dorn is the TTS version of
amazing as always brother 🤌
Thank you very much!
I wish this was how Fulgrim sounded in the audiobooks! So sinister and sly
This also shows that Ferrus and Fulgrim were the perfect pair for they complement each other’s strengths and shortcomings.
“No”-Rogal Dorn: 30,000 millennia, Terra.
I can picture Fulgrim kicking and swatting and Sigmund like a Chi-Wowa,get off me you squirrel on meth!!
Dorn: Master military engineer
Dorn: Master roaster
Exceptional reading! Very vivid and enjoyable.
Truly you do fine work...
Lol the pain. He hates the pain wants the pure joy. He sounds like he is an addict. I love it
I love that you were trying to emulate tts Dorn.
I think your voices for Dorn and Fulgrim are perfect i just stumbled on you channel today im im hooked, love your work
I dont need sleep sod it. Just Dorn kicking arse
This shit made Dorn one of my favorites
Your Fulgrim is so good!
I think you accidentally copy-pasted the description of your Dantioch and Pollux voiceover into this video, instead of the proper description stating this is the full version of your Saturnine voiceover of Sigismund and Rogal Dorn vs Fulgrim.
Oop, I did indeed! Thanks for the heads up!
and, my thanks for watching!
this is fantastic. I cant wait to get some whiskey and binge watch these!
Dorn is the man
this is why ima imperial fist fan
Dorn: "Name one ... "
Fulgie: "This is not even my final form ... "
Dorn: "🙄 Oh ffs!"
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I turn your videos on so that your voice may serenade me to sleep.
My thanks! I am glad I can help!
Dorns got the coldest lines
Epic
Thank you
My thanks!
Superb as always, better than anything GW have managed! 😊
Thank you very much! That is a high compliment!
10:00 Mf is more invested in his psychological torture than in actually fighting.
Dan Abnett. Lord of the Dark Millenium
Fulgrim 'Hello brother, Sssssssssssssss...'
Dorn 'Its a snake! GET IT AWAY FROM ME I F'ING HATE SNAKES!!!'
Proceeds to jump on top of table...
It would be interesting if you let people pick 2v2 primarch battles and who would win. I would love to see Perterabo and Alpharius team up!🤖🧑🏼🤝🧑🏼
8:17 what is that word at 8:17 "that tore through fulgrims courgette"? is that really "courgette" like the zucchini courgette?Im sorry but i dont know and understand that word
Gorget' it's a neck armor piece.
@@mikkelnilsson3709thank you
Most people pronounced the hard "t" sound on gorget per the English pronunciation, but DQ's pronunciation was the correctly authentic one.
This is amazing
I always like and love the conversation and fight between Emperor sons and dont care about random characters in 40k i just love every character in HH but i dont know why i cant find any love or like 90% of 40k characters except a few like dante or lion and guilliman of course
We dont realize that this is a duel of the only brothers who have killed a brother. Its so cold. So sad.
Here’s one thing I never quite understand about the corrupted primarchs were they always destined to be corrupted? Or were they corrupted by coming in contact with fragments of chaos here or there thus any primacy is susceptible or were the ones affected always going to fall sooner or later
Is there A Passage in saturnine that covers the fight Dorn has afterwards with The Emperor's children elite?
This fight would be so good as an anime, if done properly.
This entire episode is the reason why the imperial fist are my favorite
I don't know if anyone else pointed this out or noticed, but Dorn uses his shield for offense and his sword for defense.
Sigi would have had him. He was just getting warmed up.
Spoiler alert: scene ending spoiled. I sugest you listen to the whole thing before reading further.
As always great work on the reading. I do however think Abnett made an oopsie with this scene.
I know he did proper forwshadowing for the outcome, but fulgrim is just being a weapons grade moron and basically goes full Eric Cartman (screw you i'm going home) after transforming into a demon primarch. It was like reading the worlds worst dad joke.
Fortunetly the rest of the saturnine gambit is far more gratifying.
I mean... Yeah. But every WH book I've ever read has its eye rolling moments (except for Horus Rising) Usually they are much worse than this so I barely registered it here.
@@vlastelinprislic286 Yup there are far far worse i agree, It just annoys me. Not because of the ocational bad scene, but because I know Abnett can do much better, and because the rest of the book is so good.
why would fulgrim not finish the job himself, why leave it to his sons. I know he wants to see the emperor burn and die but horus is gonna make sure of that, why didn't fulgrim just kill dorn there?
What happens next!!
Rogal Dorn is the ultimate General
Rogal DOLT
gottem 🙄
This is why my top 5 Primarchs are
1. Russ
2. Guilliman
3. Dorn
4. Vulkan
5. Sanguinius
Can pls do One of shelob lair my Older brother was telling when he was reading lotr, shelob lair is The Best chapter in the lotr
I would like to get to more Lord of the Rings! It might take me a while to get to recording it but I shall add it to the list, still!
My thanks for watching!
Common Dorn W
This is probably an unpopular opinion. But this is probably the worst of the Primarch fights
It just feels like they had to give someone to Rogal to fight. Like there’s no real relationship between Dorn and Fulgrim
Also Fulgrim getting his ass handed to him and just leaving is just kind of weird. Like why would he transform and then just leave? He could’ve easily killed Dorn
The dialogue between the two is pretty good though, there are some really great lines here and you read them perfectly
This is one of my favorite moments in the whole series… but Dorn doesn’t realize how lucky he is to not have faced Horus.
As much as I hate fulgrim, Dorn didnt really can't be considered to have a win against Dorn. Fulgrim was bored and playing around, and cared more for entertainment. Had he cared to actually combat Dorn whether martially or strategically, Dorn would be beaten and humiliated, just like Guilliman was at his own game. But maybe that can be considered Fulgrim's weakness, that he can't be bothered to due to his "priorities"
Fulgrim's defeat was the worst humilation of the siege, he was turned into a complete joke, the book expands on the humiliation.
@@s4bcexactly. Dorn whipped his a$$ both physically and strategically. Fulgrim claiming to not care about it just reeks of 90s teen coping.
I have to agree with you @@zmsays
@@zmsays he mainly cares that Dorn doesn't care.
If anything, Dorn spoke a lot of trash, then let himself get lured into an ambush while fighting a guy he could never kill. Honestly, for how much people hyped up Dorn in this book, this was not the epic Imperial fists W everyone said it was. People just love making Sigismund and Rogal Dorn edits on youtube when the reality was that Fulgrim had them dead to rights.
@@Hawko1313 Why do people love shitting on Dorn. The dude even gives credit to Fulgrim and his legion when talking to the Angel at the end of the book. He says they could have done it by themselves. That's an extreme compliment and realization that if the legion weren't what they were now, the siege would be over. I don't agree that he was a joke, it read to me more like a tragedy to what they had become. Especially in the context that Fulgrim didn't want to be there in the first place, Lorgar had to pretty much bind him to come. Perty doesn't even get the Dorn level of hate when he basically beat his ass and treated Fulgrim like a clown, never having or showing any respect for him BEFORE he ascended.
D*** i*, man woman thing you bring me to the point of climax. And then toss me Asad with silence that was magnificent. That is it great retelling i'm a beautiful defense
"I cannot die but I feel the pain, and I won't take any more of it"
Fulgrim is just me rn with how much GW sucks Dorn off
I'd say they suck Lion and Guillieman off more.
Also, I find it hard to believe GW could suck Dorn off given his massive chainblade
You're twelve and like to paint hazard stripes...we get it.
Sigismund not giving AF! Lol *screams in black Templar*