Sail Life - 3D printer onboard & hike to abandoned tracking station
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
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You'll want to flip the embossing image if the intent is to press it into leather. Otherwise it will show up backwards.
D'oh 😂 That's a great bit of feedback! That one was just meant as a proof of concept but I absolulty didn't think about that. Thank you 🙂
I was just hammering the keyboard too. "Warriors" save the day again!!
That was exactly my first thought.
@@SailLifeI don’t know, efiL liaS (hard to get past spell check!!) sounds pretty yffips 😂
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My life is finally complete. The nav station desk hole is fixed. I can die peacefully now.
Hahaha, I hope not! :)
Oh boy, Pandora's Box has been opened. Mads + 3D printer = scads and scads of oh-so-satisfying DIY adventures! I see cable and wire management, stowage organization, parts replacements/improvements, etc. Let the fun begin!
A little bit bigger hole?
OH GLORIOUS SANDPAPER! 😊
Mads, while watching this one I was thinking... You should do a focused search for next project in the Pacific Northwest! You can work on boats all year, it doesn't get too hot, exceptional cruising when your finished, perfect! Also, we have students take 1 class at the college just to have access to an awesome shop! I'm excited for your next project. Let us know if you ever need a set of eyes on a potential project vessel. Mike
I wasn't sure i would still like this channel after you started cruising, I definitely do. The History part with Ava is rocking it
Mads, Athena is now done! The hole-around-the-pole trim was what we’ve all been waiting for🤣.
Phew! ;) Just don't look at the headliner ;)
Ready to buy that next project boat then.
@@SailLife i got a to do list for you on Athena that is as long as your hole series so you cant leave the ship captain 🤓
Oooo! The long neglected, shamefully apparent and finally fixed nav station corner gets a very spiffy trim ring enhancement. Very nice Mads!
Ava's stamp on the other hand will result is a fun house version of the Sail Life Logo; you need the stamp to be in mirror image, of course you probably know that by now. :-) Always enjoy the channel.
Thank you for plugging that gap between the pole and the nav station, I've been staring at that for YEARS!
Just a warning on the 3d printed plugs. If that's a 'wet' space you may have to spend extra time trying to keep them clean, as 3d prints are not 100% water impermeable and mold and such likes to slowly grow in between the extruded layers. It might pay to epoxy or coat the surface, or if you printed in ABS Vapor smoothing can be used to make a perfectly smooth impermeable surface, at the cost of warping dimensions slightly.
That's a pretty impressive color match between the filament and the hatch.
Nice finish on the pole base. Do a cap for the top of your pole as well.
I will but first we have to replace the headliner (this summer in the US). Then Athena will basically be done :)
Ah I finally have peace in my soul now that the gap around the pole is finally sorted 😌
We are planning on leave for the Caribbean next may. I thought I was the only one planning on bringing a Prusa MINI on such a trip. Seems like a no brainer. A few tips if you haven't gotten these already;
- Switch to PETG, way more ductile than PLA and better layer adhesion. Buy the black stuff for outside. The black pigment provides sort of a UV resistant barrier to the underlaying plastic. White should be good for the inside of the boat.
- Buy a small roll of flexible filament. All the 3D printing experts will tell you it is impossible on a MINI, including Prusa but it works fine. Better than on a MK3S in fact but that is my experience. Using the flexible stuff currently to print waterproof gaskets fur under my stanchions. Time will tell if this was brilliant or stupid.
Definitely keen to see you go to town with this setup and can't wait to see what you come up with.
Thank you so much Mads for the 3-D printed Escutcheon Plate for the Nav Station grab bar. All of my hair has grown back and I have boundless energy. Pete
Not sure if it bothers you, but I believe you can disable the clock on the oven so you don't have to have that "12:00" blinking.
While the oven is off - hold Clock and "Plus" button until it goes dark.
It could also be just hold any combination of two buttons until it switches off. F.ex. hold "+" and "-" until the clock goes dark. To enable, just hold again.
Any timers, countdown etc. are in use, it will still work as normal.
Hopefully it does retain the setting after losing power...
A tip for getting a nice finish is to use a spray filler for plastics (for car body work etc). They cover up those layers easily, and can be sanded down for painting.
The filler will of course alter the dimensions slightly, but just scale it down a bit before print. Sanding the layers it a hassle, and usually still doesn't give a uniform finish.
Over time with the varying temperature and UV, PLA will become more brittle.
For "permanent" parts like that I really do recommend PETG. It's almost as easy to print as PLA, but you'll have a bit more stringing, and maybe tighter tolerances, so there is usually a bit of tweaking on the model when going from PLA to PETG.
As for movement - no issue. You could probably mount that printer upside in the headliner and it would still work without problems.
As long as you purchase quality filament, moisture is usually not a problem. I've had a roll of Prusament sitting open in a bedroom for 3 years, and it's still printing fine.
Just so you know... you can sand 3d prints smooth (or if you're going to paint them first spray them with filling primer, sand, then paint).
Also, when printing always consider the direction of the layer lines if strength matters
That makes sense :) Thanks :)
As someone who does CAD for a living, this makes me so happy to see!!! I’ve been watching for the past 5 years or so and have been waiting for this day. Looking forward to seeing your progress!
As far as keeping your filament dry, you can find a dry box (like a pelican case or similar) and put some of those silica packets in it to keep moisture out
"...somewhat extensive refit..." cracks me up every time.
Once again, I thoroughly enjoy your videos and can’t help but notice you answered just about every question here on the comment section. I know you can’t do this every time, but it sure was refreshing to see taking the time to answer viewers questions. Cheers from MICHIGAN
Great vid folks, we appreciate the variety you are bringing to the channel, it’s great to learn about the place you visiting. Keep up the great work!
Thanks 👍
You'll love PETG. Happy printing. I've printed many do-hickeys for my home, garage, and shop. Primed, sanded and painted parts look great. I have not tried to fiberglass and gelcoat a part yet. Can't wait to get my boat and start printing for it as well.
There is a way to install a Step Up/Step Down transformer spec'd out correctly, where you can get one spec'd out with a 20%+/- increased/decrease voltage on the input/primary side and the output side/ secondary coil would output a stable 240/110 voltage 60hz (whichever you require) and would be installed before your Victron inverter/charger. Those transformers range from $50-$125+/-.
Voltage fluctuations are no joke. Here in the Philippines, we sometimes see extreme voltage swings... from 260v down to 75v. AVRs are a must-have.
I'd recommend sealing the prints with superglue or thin resin. Water can seep through the layers.
Good tip! Thank you 🙂
14:30 getting 'Princess Mononoke' vibes.
Great! Everyone's commented on the embossing image, so I won't! Perfect solution for so many bits that you spend hours hunting for! 2nd inverter charger sounds ideal. I must admit, though, that there should be some way of working with the different voltages to simplify things and save redundant kit. I'll be on a mission now. Great video, and love the shorts as well...
I agree! Victron should have supported this use case in their isolation transformer :)
I'm really excited to see the 3D printer creations you make. Jeg vil gerne se mere!
I'm sure we'll use the printer for tons of stuff :) Check out www.youtube.com/@SailLife/community for the latest thing I've printed :)
Well done with the printer. You could make a model of Athena.
The printer gonna be a game changer for you, in order to avoid all these failed pieces going to the trash can, the best thing you can do its print a series of objects with known length could be a series of clubes, your cylinders or a calibration matrix, to know how your specific printer works, it shrinks about .02mm, for many things it’s not a problem but for precise fit like the plugs that tolerance change it can be enough to work or not, and once you solve this issue you can take the measures and add the shrink factor on millimeters to make the piece slightly bigger and when it shrinks it has the right dimension
Regarding the doohickey for the stripper pole, have a look into the Prusa Slicer cut function. It has differing connectors and dowels. That way, you dont necessarily need glue when joining the parts back together again.
Awesome tip! Thanks :D I did not know about that :)
Maybe Mads your next boat could be entirely 3D printed 🙂
Discovered your channel because of 3D printing. Can't wait to see more!
Welcome aboard! :D
I always enjoy your video with my Sunday morning coffee north of Seattle.
Thanks for staying tuned :)
Happy Sunday y'all
Happy Sunday to you too :D
This 3D printer looks like a great toy (I mean TOOL!).
Toy... Tool ... potato potato ;)
The elevated voltage is likely because the local step-down transformer is lightly loaded.
You could add a buck-boost transformer to deal with the overvoltage. They are pretty small compared to full isolation transformers.
Stay safe and we'll see you next week.
Thanks! You too :)
Grear vid thx. 2 suggestions
1. You should mirror the stamp
2. Are you going to make a similar round trimmer for the top of that pole too? Against the ceiling.
Have a blast. Thx again. Keep up the good work. ❤
1) yup, totally missed that one. Oops ;)
2) As soon as we have the new headliner in place (sometime this summer)
Thank you so much :)
@@SailLife Please make an upper trim ring now.. even if its temporary. We've been waiting for the lower hole to be done forever. Now the focus is on the hole above. Thank you!
My son has several 3D printers and I got him a filament warmer / dryer off of amazon. They work great.
Hi Mads, a solution for the filament and moisture, you can use vacuum food bags to store the rolls. as you probably know in a vacuum there will be no moisture
Hi Mads, the Victron isolation transformers upscale the voltage, as they say to compensate for voltage drop due to long shore power cables etc.
Nice but we are not on 110 or 220 any more. Eu grid is upscaling some years now, from 220 to 240 and higher, to compensate for netcongestion, lower amperage and replacing hight voltage lines from copper to aluminium due to costs. I myself running at 245V and that is already hitting the limits of some components inside all sorts of electric equipment.
A solution?;
Lucky enough the upscaling is done with some extra windings on the 2 coils on the Secondaiy side. Yeah...analog is the way to go...Mr programmer:)). So by switching Primairy and Secundairy wires, (4 in, 4 out) you down scale the voltage by 10 volts. So there is even at higher voltages some Saillife left in the Victron isolation transformers.
White filament wears out nozzles faster than other colors so keep spares handy. Its the pigment in the filament that wears them out eventually.
Interesting :) Thanks for the heads up :)
Hi mads welcome to the Prusa family. As a mk4 owner Id say you got yourself a fantastic little machine. Filament drying is a bit of a fad unless you are dealing with nylon or other "engineer" grade filaments. My recomendation is stick to original prusaments to avoid the problems with trying out new plastics, I just got a bunch of ABS to throw away now. PETG will be good for almost anything in the boat, PLA is fantastic but my cellphone holder in my car melted away in the sun. PETG will "string" when id does absorb moisture... you will see if it bothers you or not. I learned so much about boats from you so... if you got any questions shoot away :)
Thank you so much! Those are great tips :) I'm glad I got PETG from Prusa then :)
Hey Mads and Ava, I have a brilliant idea! Buy a cheap island that has no groundwater, take all the parts off Athena including the solars and the watermaker and have a deluxe home - and thanks to starlink a cool off grid UA-cam-channel
And then build another boat on that island? I love it! :D If only we could find a cheap island ;)
Best wishes and safe journeys from Montana !
Thank you so much! I hope to visit Montana some day :)
Lol. "Now we are sanding and sailing our way around the world"
Finally I have waited so long for you to cover that hole on the nav station 🎉
The value of the tech on this small boat is unbelievable.
Thanks! It's getting harder and harder to fit more stuff ;)
Mads, you WILL have moisture issues with both PLA and PETG. After about 1-2 weeks the resin will definitely need drying.
And BTW, the Sail Life stamp logo should have been mirrored.
Oh, and another BTW, I have found that drying the resins at around50degC for 4-6 hours really works the best. I doubt if your oven can do that.
Love the 3D printing content. ABS is great for end product, but I’m not sure that printer is capable of the bed and hot end temps. You also want a vented enclosure for temp control and fumes. PETG is also good for durability but some of the same challenges as ABS. High infill PLAplus may be your best boat option, but don’t expect anything made with PLA to survive outside under the sun. Nice work!
Seems I might do okay with ABS/ASA forum.prusa3d.com/forum/general-discussion-announcements-and-releases/abs-printing-with-the-mini/ :)
its capable of ABS ive printed a lot on Prusa's and its open source, Ive had 3 prusas wore 2 out and sold them and on my third Prusa the bed is tricky though be careful its one of the most capable and open source printers out there the reviews show..
@@SailLife That's great, and so much the better, although it will operate as a heater inside the boat. I'm printing ABS in an enclosure right now with some ventilation. The ambient temp in the room is 65f, and the temp in enclosure is 92f. I really enjoy your channel and don't miss an episode. Sail on!
With a 3D printing solution onboard the only limit is size and your imagination.😀👍
See you 👍🏼🥰
Just a tip, but keep your parts closer together when printing. It will mean less travel for the printer between parts, which results in faster print times.
With this trim-ring-on-a-pole-system you have build an extremely sophisticated capsizing indicator! If it touches the ceiling, you now know something is wrong... ;)
Here in the US you will find between 115-130 volts. Although 120 is most common.
Again, I am absolutly astonished how long it took "Tech Mads" to get a 3D-Printer on his boat.
Hi Mads, welcome to 3d printing! Did you know that you can also get Delrin filament! It is called POM (C or H). This way you can print an Delrin part yourself. Nice video’s! Keep up that good work, but also take a vacation now and then. Regards Kris
Thanks, Kris :) I had heard about that :) I imagine it's hard to print! Excited to try:D
Nylon is also very cool. But it is very moisture sensitive. You can also get carbonfiber enhanced nylon. This is incredibly strong.
Never thought I would say, "nice box" on this channel great video 2x👍
Project Manager Mads is at it again ...
I can't wait for them to use the 'Sale Life' stamp and see that it's mirrored.
Cool printer! You should start a pool on how many 3D things will be printed this year. I’m guessing 250!
If we find a new project boat in the US 250 might be a good guess ;)
There are all sorts of videos on UA-cam where people have mounted 3d printers sideways on walls, upsidedown on ceilings and just hanging from a swinging rope and none of those caused the prints to fail, so really don't think the boat swaying is going to be a problem
An SVS Sollatek voltage stabilizer proved very useful when we had a poor mains supply. Eventually I bought a Victron Skylla battery charger with a universal input. It worked from 100V to about 280V and works from DC to 50/60Hz and provided 3000W output at 24V.
Sounds like a good setup :)
Nice work Mads and The Admiral. I miss the intro section where the Admiral is waving her finger. Maybe 3D print your next boat
Thanks :D
I sometimes really wonder how much more stuff you can “fit” into that boat. Is see the waterline at the gunnel soon. 😅
I’m surprised the printer is such high resolution. Nice.
Yeah it's a pretty cool gadget... if I can ever get my hands on one of the sintered metal 3d printers then I might never leave the boat/house again ;)
As busy as you are making plastic doodads, you probably don't get a chance to watch other sailing channels. I saw one recently called "Sailing With Thomas". He's a Norwegian single-handing his 55' Bavaria around the world right now. The episode you might want to review is about all electric or even hybrid boats for cruisers. He currently uses a Fischer-Panda generator! His opinions about them may (or may not) surprise you! Can you print out a new generator? ;)
Congratulations on finally finishing the refit of Athena! That pole-hole was a serious distraction for me! ;)
If Ava wants to emboss a thin material like copper sheets, that die will give a raised embossing on the opposite side.
For 3D pieces you print in two parts to fit around something, you can add a jiggsaw style connector to make it removable and gluefree. :)
Great idea! :)
You should take a look into a variable autotransformer, might be a cheap fall back solution for your setup.
That is a great idea :)
The reason your voltage is a bit high is probably so that they don't have to worry about voltage drop as much when the load starts to get higher when the marina is full of higher power users. It might be that the power usage is down because of fewer people using their boats or just because boats are generally becoming more efficient power users as tech is adopted to reduce usage. Maybe the utility needs to adjust the taps on their utility step-dpwn transformers off of their high-voltage primary lines to get the voltage down closer to 120v. I doubt you will see voltage this high anywhere in the USA unless it is a super janky marina. Usually if you see any voltage issues it will be low voltage due to voltage drop at peak usage times and perhaps tripping breakers taking out a whole batch of power bollards or a whole pier at a time. We used to have issues like that on the hard in Chicago during rush weeks right before everyone wanted to launch for the season. Everyone was running saws, heat guns and hot boxes, halogen flood lights, sanders, wet vacs and other equipment all at the same time.
A cheaper alternative to the new blue box would have been an autotransformer on Athena or a multi-tap transformer that you can adjust the transformer turn ratio manually by moving the wires around inside. I'm surprised that the Victron transformers don't have multi taps.
It's not uncommon to see 3-phase power grids that are setup to provide 220V line-to-line, which yields 220V / sqrt(3) = 127V for the line-to-neutral. On top of that, you can expect a 5% tolerance on the grid, so you could see as much as 133V and that is all within spec for that country's grid. This setup requires less transformers, but it does pose challenges with compatibility. It's surprising to me that Victron overlooked this particular configuration in their autotransformer.
I only sparky in the USA and 3-phase systems here are set to 120/208v precisely because we would rather see a little less phase to phase voltage than have line voltage creep up to 130 where we see more issues than we do with lower phase to phase potential.
Resistive heating elements and incandescent filaments start to have lifespan and safety problems when run outside of design parameters. If more power is needed than 208 single-phase equipment can handle compared to 220v then that three-phase present should really be utilized with true three-phase equipment. That's really the whole point of 3∅ power anyhow.
I admit I am not familiar what is done outside of the USA as I don't work outside of the USA That letter "I" on my IBEW union card is largely symbolic. Frankly I am shocked when I see how they sparky in other countries when we visit them (pun intended) It's rather uncivilized IMHO. It's bad enough in the residential sector here in the USA but I don't stoop to that level and frankly it's been a long time since I worked in the commercial trade anyhow. 10 years ago we pulled the plug (pun intended) and turned ourselves into cruisers who live on a boat and don't work anymore.
We retired before age 50 and haven't looked back. A lot of things have changed in the last decade and not all of them good. 3∅ systems run up to 230/220v, dogs and cats sleeping together, techs crossing the streams on their particles thrower backpacks, Vinz Clortho finding the keymaster...that sort of thing.
Try “ironing” in prusa slicer for making the top surface look better
Thanks for the tip :)
Brilliant update. Love the 3D printer
Thanks 👍
I can give you advise when it comes to use your printer. Even I am sure that your learning curve is steep. You should be able to let the printer smooth out the last layer for a better optic on the upward side of the print.
"Our next refit..." ???!!!!
Yeah, we're looking for a 50-60ft monohull in HORRIBLE shape :)
Next boat should be called "NoPandas"
@@SailLife I vote for an open 60. Should shave at least a week off of your Atlantic crossings. 😉
If you ever need to print anything that will be out under UV you should get yourself a roll of ASA filament. I have printed replacement outside hatch handles (going for €65 each if I was to buy them) and they are still hanging strong after 4 years in the sun
Nice! That's a great tip :) Thanks!
Enjoyed your test of strength - Super Glue 1, Mads 0. Looking forward to round two.
I was pretty surprised by that. I was handling it super carefully before the test being afraid to snap it. There was no need for that 😂
Comment, my personal little kick in the tuber algorithm . I sure like Sail Life.
Thank you so much :)
Ahoy there Mads and Eva.... nice vid... good to see you still having fun with this.... playing with cad and 3d printers is waaay tooo much fun... Ooops probably not the first to mention this but you'll need to mirror image the stamp image if you want it to present properly on a receiving surface...(damn! I've just read the preceding comment... oh well ;-)
Yeah that was a silly mistake 😂 I had not noticed it until I saw the first comment about it. Since then it’s become apparent that a lot of you guys acutely pay really good attention while watching the videos 😉😉
When not using the cook top, put your printer on it. The gimbal mounted range, will reduce the amount of motion the printer is subjected to.
The humidity in north texas isn't as high as the Caribbean or south texas. But the temperature range can be a little daunting especially in summer. That's why oh glorious air-conditioning is a necessity not a luxury here. Winter has been bipolar this year teens 1 day and 70s another.
I'm excited to get to colder places again to be honest :) I just wish I haven't become accustomed to the heat by then ;)
That’s definitely an island problem with 130V which is too steep of voltage for anything. Everything here in the US is most of the time 123V or 250V.
Compliments with the 3D printer and the results!
Thank you so much! That was fun!
Mads, I don’t know where you guys are planning to stay in the US but if I were you I’d take a good look at Stuart Fl
Stuart has literally dozens of boat related sippy facilities
And shopping galore
Vacuum seal the spools immediately after each use and place the desicant packet that came with the spool inside the sealed bag. I’ve never had a problem with moisture.
I don't think our PLA is super sensitive. It's been sitting out in the humid hot air here for a month with no issues :)
Mads... I love your films on UA-cam... You remind me of Professor Proton in the tv show... With Sheldon. in Big Bang Theroiri .. i dont mean that in a bad way.... sorry my denglish... are you building the Protom reverse machine on you vessel? asking from a friend....
this is so good. annoying so. educational + fun.
Thank you so much :)
at 6:55 , you could have cut the object directly in prusa slicer, not in fusion 360, that way you could have gotten registration pins to fit the part easily together :)
That is a great tip! Thank you :)
you could have used a dimmer to reduce your incoming voltage
Spiffy sunday 3D 🖨️ printing 😊
Thanks! :D
I was wondering if you have ever considered e-bikes for your on-shore exploring. They have plenty that fold so they are compact and would fit in your tender. Then you can charge the bike batteries from your solar setup. Might make your day trips a bit easier.
We would love something like that or even just the scooters but room is always a challenge. If/when we get a bigger boat for sure! :)
5:07 I *am* blind (legally, anyway) and I *still* think that looks a heck of a lot better!
5 years in the US!!! Check out the harbors in downtown Chicago. They are right in the cultural center of the city.
We'll see what happens :) Chicago sounds nice!
I was hoping that you would have printed slot A and tab B of sorts into the opposing halves of your pole escutcheon. Perhaps as time goes on your programming will accommodate such things. 👍🏽
Because there's not much that compares to an OH-glorious *click* emanating from a fresh new 3D printed part as it perfectly accommodates the function for which it was born.
That would be an interesting challenge. I think I can pull that off already but I'm sure I wouldn't be doing it in the most fancy way ;)
Watch out for moisture in the air affecting your prints. PLA absorbs water like a sponge but keep it in a sealed bag with desiccant and you should be okay.
We haven't had any issue with the PLA yet :) Even after it has just been sitting out for a month :)
Nah not PLA. You are thinking of nylon.
Hair spray.
Always spray the bed with hair spray before a wide print...trust me.
Thanks for the tip :)
Wait… ”Our next refit”? Have i missed something?
A doohickey to cover the hole on the nav station! I can sleep at nights again! 😂⛵️
You and me both! ;)
You left that plastic ring dangling there, I won't be able to sleep knowing it! 😢
Sorry! :)