A VALUE guitar SET UP right PLAYS GREAT! Harley Benton TE20

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  • Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
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    0:00 Introduction TRAIN & TRAINER
    1:30 Tuning
    2:30 Relief (truss Rod)
    5:14 Action
    10:39 Intonation
    17:12 Noodle
    18:00 Ear
    19:22 Repeat
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  • @Oilid
    @Oilid 3 роки тому +5

    Very useful video!

  • @leightnite3056
    @leightnite3056 3 роки тому +6

    The best laid out and simplified presentation on this subject I've seen so far, thank you!

  • @cresshead
    @cresshead Рік тому

    Brilliant video - saved to a playlist - thank you!

  • @robinosborne266
    @robinosborne266 3 роки тому +1

    Yet another really great and informative video. Please keep ‘em coming.

  • @Robsi60
    @Robsi60 Рік тому

    Thank you! Very helpful.

  • @GraemeCampbellMusic
    @GraemeCampbellMusic 3 роки тому +1

    That’s a brilliantly helpful video Mike. I’ve been playing for years and I learnt a thing or two.

  • @bobbya8622
    @bobbya8622 3 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate this video, and your take/way of doing a setup. I have developed some skills in this area, but intonation is one that I struggle with. Everyone else that I have watched or listened to have seemed to refer to more of like two small left and right “ladders,” (my words): with the right starting up about 3/4 of the way up the left. When you said that you look more for a continuous arc, that resonated with me, so I picked up a new guitar that I have just gotten, and it is amazing how much better it sounds after looking at the intonation setup that way. Thanks very much! That helped a lot, along with a couple more of your tips, such as checking on relief. On another subject, that red Tele looks good, and I don’t have a Telecaster; darn, I thought I had bought my last guitar for a while.😆

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      Thx my friend I'm so glad you found it useful. Sorry I gave you GAS tho! 😊🙏👍

  • @mayhem1560
    @mayhem1560 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers Mike, very informative.

  • @redroverthefngamecat
    @redroverthefngamecat 3 роки тому +1

    FANTASTIC! Thank you SO much for this video. It's great to hear that these HB guitars will allow for a lower setup. I'm now going to purchase a Tele style and a LP style (when it's back in stock). Also thank you for going in depth on how to setup a guitar. Awesome video! And the tip on using older broken in strings while doing the setup is super valuable. Thanks again.

  • @KPGuitarStudios
    @KPGuitarStudios 3 роки тому

    Trained by the best 🤘 Great video Mike

  • @edwardsmith9801
    @edwardsmith9801 3 роки тому

    Great show , thanks for the information. I've been wanting to try my own set ups. Just wasn't sure on the how. Thanks again. Stay safe.

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Glad to help buddy. You can do it, just be careful with small adjustments to the truss rod.

  • @therealdavegrohl1098
    @therealdavegrohl1098 3 роки тому +5

    Great vid. I've got bargains on great guitars that they couldn't shift in the shop for want of an easy set up. Getting a set of compensated barrels for less than a tenner will help with the intonation :) cheers

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      Very cool! Yes I think I may do a complete bridge replacement. I will use this guitar as an upgrade base if there is a demand for it. So far people seem pretty interested in this guitar :-)

  • @thenovicenoisemaker
    @thenovicenoisemaker 3 роки тому

    Superb

  • @bazkeen
    @bazkeen 3 роки тому

    Great video.👍🏻👍🏻

  • @warrenpeece2800
    @warrenpeece2800 3 роки тому +1

    Nice!

  • @anywherenearzero
    @anywherenearzero 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing video. So simply explained and has now helped me decide on next purchases and how to improve my current collection. I assume to lower strings on my acoustic I simply sand down the bone little by little

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Thank you man. Acoustic set up is trickier but the principals are the same yes

  • @patrickstach2928
    @patrickstach2928 3 роки тому +1

    A beautiful guitar with a tone well above the price tag. Great video and greeting from Germany. :)

  • @colinpumpernickel2605
    @colinpumpernickel2605 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the help. I bought an HB t20 and lowered the action which was too high. I'm scared of truss rods so I left that alone. My intonation was spot on after lowering the action. I was lucky I suppose.
    Right got to get back to open G and being Keith for a couple of hours.

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Hey Keith Colin don't be afraid of the truss rod just don't tweek it too much

    • @colinpumpernickel2605
      @colinpumpernickel2605 3 роки тому

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic That's what they all say Mike! But seriously, I trust your advice.

  • @jeffroq
    @jeffroq 2 роки тому +1

    Great video Mike. A tip I picked up from John Suhr is to intonate using the 3rd and 15th fret. Takes the nut slot height out of the equation and improves overall intonation, especially on the 3 saddle bridges

  • @briansmythe3219
    @briansmythe3219 3 роки тому +1

    good points

  • @RandySchartiger
    @RandySchartiger 3 роки тому

    ah yes! I get my share of this and then some lol good work mate!

  • @kiivje
    @kiivje 3 роки тому

    Great video! Have a nice day!

  • @Steven_SK
    @Steven_SK 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely explained Mike. This will be a great reference video for folks! I would agree with the request for floating a bridge setup. While I can get it done it seems I don't hit the mark easy enough. Thank you sir! later

  • @richardrichard5409
    @richardrichard5409 Рік тому

    1mm at the 12th fret and clean is a sign of a great guitar 😎

  • @mannyroman3599
    @mannyroman3599 2 роки тому

    Great 👍

  • @realjumper
    @realjumper 3 роки тому +1

    Nicely explained!! I expect that we all do things a little differently and I'm not sure if there is a 'perfect' way to do it, but I do mine similar to you except that when I do my Action adjustments, I start with the nut. The use of a capo (12th fret) can take the saddle height out of the equation (for the most part) and once the nut is set up correctly (to my taste) then I do the saddle heights. I guess it's all 'swings and roundabouts' though :) These HB's are great guitars, a year on from receiving my TE-40 TBK Deluxe Series and I still have trouble putting it down and going to bed at night!!

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      Yes indeed my friend, there are probably 10 ways to do it right and whatever works works.
      One that keeps you playing that much sounds like the perfect guitar. Enjoy 😊🙏👍

    • @vanshankguitars
      @vanshankguitars 3 роки тому

      Nut should always be done last as you'll need to raise the bridge action if the nut has been lowered significantly.

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions 3 роки тому +1

    You did a great job on that thing Mike! Really tho, to get it really GOOD, a fret level is mandatory!

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Did you see your request fulfilled in tonight's live show?

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 3 роки тому +1

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic No sorry Mike! Will have to see the replay! Thanks for doing that anyway!

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      I hope you enjoy the replay

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions 3 роки тому +1

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic Will do! \m/

  • @richardrichard5409
    @richardrichard5409 3 роки тому

    Your way of checking relief is how I do it, elbow on last fret 👍

  • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
    @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 3 роки тому +1

    That's a beautiful tele

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      I agree buddy :-) Thank you

    • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
      @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 3 роки тому

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic have you tried out lindo guitars from Bristol yet, I am a intermediate learner and bought a electric acoustic, blue shark from them, very beautiful guitar both in looks and playability, worth giving them a shout brother. Keep up the fantastic work and love your channel 👏

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      @@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 I've just checked back over my emails and as I thought I have been in touch with Simon there and he is coming back to me when their new range goes live. Initially I got them mixed up with another company who don't collaborate with UA-camrs but checking my emails Simon is very open and keen to work with me. Great news! Sorry for the initial confusion and watch this space. 😊👍

    • @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
      @nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 3 роки тому

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic that's great news and I am sure you will enjoy the experience, it would be good to push a great British make of guitar to the viewers out there. Good luck with it all and thank you so much for keeping me informed, oh and my name is vernon by the way, lol 😉🤘

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      @@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 No, thank you Vernon for giving me the reminder to check and touch base with Simon again. I will credit you if we end up making a video or two. I'm all about UK brands. Did you know about the British boutique guitar festival?

  • @digitallearningconsulting4672
    @digitallearningconsulting4672 5 місяців тому

    Ah Mike... miss ya, man

  • @charlieluna7237
    @charlieluna7237 3 роки тому +1

    Living in the Uk here. When I first got the guitar 2 days ago it was flawless. A few days later I have noticed alot of buzz. Frets are fine, I'v changed the strings, set up the intonation and adjusted the truss rod but I'm still getting buzz. Could it have been something I have done wrong? Action is about 2mm on the low E and still buzz. I can't loosen the truss rod anymore because im getting a bit of resistance from it. Maybe I have set it up wrong? Would leaving it until the next day after a truss rod adjustment work? It only seem's to be when I play it any harder than a light touch with finger picking, if I use a pick it seems to buzz, most around a and d strings.
    Any tip? Because im in love with this guitar and I don't want to send it back

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      It sounds like the guitar might be settling into its new environment. Changes in temperature and humidity can have an effect. If you are adjusting the rod keep them small and give them time to settle. A small adjustment can have a big effect.
      Check you have the saddle heights correct for the radius of the fretboard. If its mainly happening on two strings, this is the most likely cause. That or a high fret. Do you have a fret rocker? If not you can use a credit card.
      First check if the buzz goes all the way up the neck. That's likely the bridge adjustment. If not and it stops after a certain fret then it could be a high fret.
      If you get stuck let me know and I will do a video on it.

  • @theworldofalanstilton9674
    @theworldofalanstilton9674 Рік тому

    What about checking the string height at the nut?

  • @anywherenearzero
    @anywherenearzero 3 роки тому +1

    I’ve had a few guitars come with 5-6mm off the neck ! No wonder I’m struggling to press the strings and cutting my fingers

  • @valiata
    @valiata 3 роки тому +1

    That tuner is more expensive than the HB Te20..nice video though and very informative. Because you mentioned the high frets issue, that may need a fret level and is a job for a luthier and a simple setup wouldn't solve it. Thank you, cheers!

  • @martynrandall7652
    @martynrandall7652 2 роки тому

    Great review just one thing, when you said about the bottom E needing the saddle taking back to make it exactly halfway as in lengh, surely that's wrong. When completing the intonation and all the saddles are staggered there all different lengths. So have they got to be harmonicly halfway? Is that right?
    Cheers Martyn

  • @Markherczeg
    @Markherczeg 3 роки тому +1

    Good tips. Did you get any issues with string choke on bends with a 1mm action.

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you. No issues at all, so it seems the frets are nicely leveled and there is no issue with the neck either. Happy days!

    • @Markherczeg
      @Markherczeg 3 роки тому +2

      Cool! For a guitar at that price that’s impressive! Thanks for the reply..

  • @detlevcohrs4319
    @detlevcohrs4319 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Mike, i will the TE-20 a Little upgrade i have buy Rollerstringtrees, Bonenut and Brasssattles and i dont now to Change the Pickups or not, what do you think are the best Pickups for a Tele? LG Detlev

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +1

      You read my mind buddy. I already have string trees and more upgrades coming. Watch this space!

    • @detlevcohrs4319
      @detlevcohrs4319 3 роки тому +1

      @@Chinaguitarsceptic Ok i wait what you do and make the same, see you in the next Video.

  • @vanshankguitars
    @vanshankguitars 3 роки тому +1

    Only thing I would add to your incredibly useful video, is that measurement gauges are cheap enough and should be used if at all possible. Leaving it to feel and ballpark adjustments can lead to inconsistencies while playing.

  • @Leo_ofRedKeep
    @Leo_ofRedKeep 3 роки тому +1

    You can go wrong with intonation, especially on cheap guitars with possibly lesser metal, stripping the adjustment screw when trying to lengthen the scale. Loosening the string before adjusting its length will avoid this. Cumbersome but safer.

  • @hmsdefiant
    @hmsdefiant 2 роки тому

    Good vid! I would say not to use rusty plain steel treble strings for checking intonation, so don't use strings that are too old of course!

  • @brynjones7371
    @brynjones7371 6 місяців тому

    Hi, is your channel still active? I haven't seen anything more than a year ago. Love your channel shame if it's not active. Best wishes.

  • @dickgitaar2012
    @dickgitaar2012 3 роки тому

    They get better by the day...soon the EU vintage..great value for money

  • @MusicTherapyLaz
    @MusicTherapyLaz 3 роки тому

    Something EVH lived by... set it up right and you can get a guitar playing right! Next one... Floyd Rose decked and floating aet-ups?

  • @Kamil92Zgon
    @Kamil92Zgon 3 роки тому +1

    Frets are really low/small :( Refretting costs more than a guitar. It's a pity because it's a nice base for upgrades

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Not on mine buddy. Same as every other guitar I have including the prs

  • @RayPryke
    @RayPryke 3 роки тому +1

    Did U lower the pickups Mike?

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      No but you will see on Sunday why not. I hope you can make the live show? :-)

    • @RayPryke
      @RayPryke 3 роки тому

      Ok, we will see. I might be able to see the second half, so U might have to reprise for me and other late comers if thats ok.

  • @TheLambLive
    @TheLambLive 3 роки тому +3

    6:47 - Another tip... Unlike the shot here,, the saddles should always be flat, otherwise strumming or heavy playing will 'tip' the saddle, which can cause rattling and other issues longer term. Yes, it won't match the neck relief so well, but that's another sacrifice with this type of poor bridge design.

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому +2

      It is a poor design but we have to work with what we have. I might change out the bridge in my upgrades if people want to see that kind of thing.

  • @MartinJG100
    @MartinJG100 Рік тому

    15:18. Yep, who cares about the odd bum note, all part of that Tele sound :).

  • @lukedeacon
    @lukedeacon 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry but this is incomplete. You’ve missed out NUT ACTION. Most poorly setup guitars need this lowered. It doesn’t matter how well all other components are adjusted. A high nut action makes a guitar awful to play at the low end of the neck. First fret action measurement and nut groove filing should be integral to any basic setup instruction.

    • @Chinaguitarsceptic
      @Chinaguitarsceptic  3 роки тому

      Very good point. Included in the quality of the nut but should be a separate specific point. I will amend.

  • @yeoldefoxeh254
    @yeoldefoxeh254 Рік тому

    What a terrible tuner :D