[Classic game with ai] cosmic style master Takemiya's game analysis with ai
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- I analyzed a great game with ai. Takemiya masaki(black) vs Lin-Haifeg(white)
Takemiya's game is always so exciting to watch!
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Btw, if you haven't heard of Lin Haifeng, and you're from the West, you probably know him by his Japanese name : Rin Kaiho
That's very helpful, thanks
The AI think they're sooo cool with their 3-3's but they ain't got nothin on our boy Takemiya with that sweet sweet 5-5
I had the honor of playing a 9-stone game with Mr. Takemiya in Portland at the 2008 U.S. Go Congress. (I lost by 1 point! ;) )What a generous man!
Takemiya is my friend and guest from the Rome 2007..and great stories together and yea, he is the moyo guy as i also become myself thx to him.
Excellent choice of a game to review and it’s wonderful to have AI moves explained by a pro. I’d like to suggest having more AI-suggested alternative moves, especially interesting ideas for the losing player to catch up.
Such a cool game. I’ve never seen someone play like that before
8:00 "Next move was Takemiya's little mistake and he just captured". Takemiya himself later said he regretted the move and instead should have capped the side star stone at 7-+
I would love to see also some more in depth analisys of some pro game like a ~1hour long video. Anyway thank you so much for all your work, great analisys and players background as always!
This was very interesting. I haven't played Go in many years now and your channel is making me want to play again. Keep up the good work!
your commentary is most useful and helpful. thank you for your work online!
very nice analysis, very nice game, the 5-5 was such a daring move ...
now i remember how fortunate i was when i visited japan in 2000 to meet takemiya in person, and he was really nice and friendly
Yeonwoo, you can change the komi with KataGo :-)
Maybe she is using Leela for the review?
COSMIC GO!!!!!!!
Thank you for the video. That is perfect work. You are as great as Takemiya Masaki👍 I am Polish and I understenand your English perfectly !!!
Great commentary, will appreciate if U can comment some games of Go Seigen.
Excellent video, as always.
Whenever I'm teaching someone go I encourage my student to play san-ran-sei until they are at least 15kyu. That way they avoid getting distracted by different fuseki and at the same time they learn how to use influence.
Love your videos
Thank you for the video. Takemiya Misaki is one of my most favorite legendary players. His cosmic style is so unpredictable and it confuses his opponents. I really feel he’s beyond winning or losing.
17:12 I like how you showed the next move and then for one minute pretend nobody saw it :)
It was fun! I don't think I've ever seen one of these "cosmic games" before now.
Thanks for showing this.
Great video! Opened this video the moment I saw it and did not regret it, please do more reviews like this! Not only very instructive but also lots of fun.
By the way, can you review next a game with nice amashi? I would like to see some impressive reduction games too. Thanks for the videos!
Lin Haifeng his Japanese name is Rin Kaiho
most Americans only know him by his Japanese name
I also have the time in my day for some longer reviews. I do like this format where only the most important moves are discussed though. Sometimes it helps me to just pause and think about why some of the moves that are glossed over are so predictable to a professional.
Love this Channel!
This was a fantastic review! Thanks very much!
To understand the present it is always necessary to look into the past, thanks a lot for making this great presentation.
Thanks for great commentary.
Well prepared yet spontaneous and funny. Love your reviews!
Wow... Fantastic player.
I always thought that trying to win the game in this mode is a strategy for amatorial or kyu players before watching this video
This is mind-blowing, congratulations for Takamiya
Exceptional game and exceptional review. Thanks
Good commentary and great choice of game! Really enjoyable!
You DO have to remember all the way what komi the AI is assuming if the AI is fixed like Leela. :))
(To admit a little secret, I sometimes add in some nonsense yose that is wrong by a couple of points to get the AI to tell me what it thinks given the real komi rather than its assumed 7.5. This also gives me a bit more information about what those percentages mean...)
Could you make more videos about this kind of beautiful game before AI? I love it when players have so different and personalized styles
Great review, cosmic go inspired all of us Who were begining to discover de world of go
Low is too low! Love it, lol.
Thank You for that analysis ;]
Yes, yes. AI analysis with pro gameplay is exactly what I want to see!
Takemiya builds weapons of whole-board destruction.
The great Takemiya! very good video, thanks for that. Please do one like this with Cho Chikun!!!!!!
I like this kind of review a lot also I would prefer to hear a bit more about how much programs hate particular moves and if possible what was the right way for opponent to take advantage of such a moves. Anyway your reviews are great no meter what, thank you!
You got me hyped up for this double twist guy.
Takemiya is may famous go player
Great idea! Do more please, great games by old masters with AI.
These reviews with AI input is the best! Keep it up! 😁
exellent english skill, so nice
More pro games! I like to watch professional go the same way I like to watch professional sports. The best at their best! Thank you Cho Yeonwoo!
More Takemiya! More Chikun!
Takemiya had the most entertaining style..
Excellent!!! thank you!!!!! maybe one day you can do a Chochikun game :D Go ProYeonwooo
great vid yes more like this please - thank you :)
That's a cool idea. You should try to use this idea on the futhest from ai game you can think of.
Haylee, hello! Can you recommend some collections of go problems which would help a lot to any high rank player from 1kyu and above? It would be awesome
based on the current currency exchange at that time, 20 000 000 yen is roughly 155 000 usd
very nice review :) please prepare some more :):)
2 small mistakes:
this game is from 1988, not 1998. So Takemiya would be considered in his prime and Rin, although being 46 was still a title holder.
Also Rin's nickname translated in English would be: Double waist. It's term that originates from sumo wrestling about someone that cannot be thrown to the ground.
Always tried to play like takemiya but had no success. He is a genius.
Since you seem to be playing against Katago, I suggest you may also use it for the analysis instead of Leela. Then, you can adjust the komi and other settings. (I have not tried it myself, but people say so)
4:05 I believe you calculated the exchange rate incorrectly, 20 million JPY = 200k usd approx.
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super
Great!
wow takemiya has style!!!
Curious what would happen if you run shusaku games through ai.
As Joren Oris
pointed out this game was played in 1988 (1st World Championship). It is always helpful to include the sgf file or a link to the sgf file. I enjoyed the commentary, especially at critical points about AI recommendations. eidogo.com/games?q=fujitsu
Hi just here to say you should use katago its available on gitub and you will find how to setup on redit its working on sabaki software and with Lizzie
What did the AI think of the 5-5 point?
Awesome game!
I want to see you play guitar! 🎸
Cool style, it seems too risky !
About when you tried to sing... don't quit your day job.
When a pro player resigns, can AI pick up the losing side and still win?
17:59 go-go? 5,5?
Great game but I personally hate the cosmic style in my games. I'm rather more territorial player, I like a balanced game in which we both with an opponent are justly sharing a big cake for small pieces. But when an opponent uses such moyo oriented stragedy and is trying to take away most of the cake, I'm so confused what should I do, where and when invade his moyo, or maybe I should keep calm and play in my style without playing risky too much and keep hoping that it will eventually be enough. In such situation when one player is building so huge moyo it's very difficult to judge and count the territory balance correctly but when we overlook the right moment to invade it may be the game over.
You go on zbaduk. Choose katago with 5.5 komi ^^
Latest katago is already stronger than leela zero, and you can change the Komi there too, which Katago respects. In addition, katago even respects Japanese counting as well, which can sometimes be important, so there’s no reason to analyze with wrong Komi... or with leela zero anymore. (I was assuming you use katago in the past because of your other videos, so was surprised to hear this).
What is komi ???
I get very sad that I can't be as good as Takemiya at playing for the center, haha. I love his games! But now everyone knows the AI stuff, and I just get reduced and erased and end up with nothing unless I play for some territory. RIP cosmic style
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You have a habit of saying "I can win you" 10:33, native English speakers would say "I can beat you" or "I can win." And yes, I like this style of review of games. I would like you to talk more about how these styles might contrast against AI and if it would be possible to use these old styles to force AI to change some habits.
next time i will try to say i beat you!
To be honest it might be awkward and not a native construction but I kinda really like it.
“I will win” or “you will not beat me” is closer in emotional sentiment to “I can win you.” The assumption is the future is now set - my advantage is too great.
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The title is quite misleading. This is more of an analysis by you than by AI. We need AI variations and more than just a slight mention at the beginning. I'm sure there were crazy overplays and errors especially for a moyo style like Takemiya's that AI detected. Especially with such a horrible win rate at the beginning, I'm sure Takemiya only won because Rin Kaiho missed something. All human Go is imperfect but Takemiya's is definitely a lot more so just that his opponents can't figure out how to counter it and he wins by overplaying and getting away with it. rather than by actually playing sound moves with no flaws.
i never understood how can go players be past their prime, and the world strongest player right now i think is 23 years old? because its not like you are dipendent on you body that much.. is it like a mental wearness?
Physical things work a lot too in Go
This your comment is spectacular and I believe you should have more propaganda for your work dear Yeonwo
BLACK RUSSIA ahahaha I laughed so hard at that
this game is so woke