JFlowers pool CUE / VALUE FOR MONEY !
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Hey PoolFans in this episode I review the JFlowers carbon fibre shaft !
The full cue is surprisingly cheap, watch the video to find out the cost $$$
Carbon fibre shafts have changed the game and most top professionals are now using Carbon !
Here is the link to the exact cue I am reviewing 👇🏽
jflowerscues.c...
You can choose low deflection wood shaft with this cue too !
Also here is the JFlowers website checkout the rest of the shop here 👇🏽
jflowerscues.com/
The table in my videos is a clash steel pro 👇🏽
clashpool.com/
*Question: Other reviewer of this cue stated his older wooden predator 314 shaft is stiffer, has less deflection, than the J Flowers Carbon Fiber Shaft. Same Model. Do you feel the carbon fiber shaft has more less deflection, or simply put, stiffer, less stiff? Do you feel you need ad more power in your stroke, due to the lightness of the shaft? Wood has mass. CF Shaft is hollow and tube is not thick. Hard to believe they are better than wood. These Flower CF Shafts, always show light under the shaft, slightly warped*
Great video Karl! Very in depth and explanatory! I just wish you would have mentioned the price of the cue, at least once or maybe 7 times. Anyways cheers!
Hahaha hahaha hahaha
Well then you are lucky they sent you a cue that exactly weight as ordered. I got one that was completely out of balance very butt heavy and not the weight I ordered. I ordered 19 ounce got 19.2 ounce. But with a butt heavy as 15.6 ounce which is way to much for a 19 ounce cue.
So be warned when onderring at this company they will not solve the issue best you can get is get your money back, but then they do not want you anymore as customer. You have to accept the cue as is. If you are a serious player I advise stay away from this. They said to me their butts and shafts all have different weights and get combined to be roughly the weight you order. So If you are lucky the cue has good balance or very bad if you are not.
Another great video Karlito!
Thanks
i have a jflowers butt and i bought revo shaft and i combined them i felttt veryyy happy with it
I really want a one piece 9 or 9.1mm tip 58" carbon snooker cue but I don't see anyone taking this seriously. I want proper tech used to measure the deflection and something made not just with carbon fibre but also with great attention to the details like wall thickness and the balance point and butt diameter. I also feel it would be easy to have thicker or thinner walls that would make the cue stiffer or more flexible and this might be an option when buying or ordering the cue. I'd like to see some carbon cues made to the exact specifications of some of the pros cues. I know this is possible. If I had the resources I'd start a serious R&D phase of cue development and make some next level sticks that would take the professional snooker and pool game to the next level. But for the time being I suppose i'll just crack on with my crappy low pay day job. Anyway sorry to spew thoughts here Karl. Loves the videos and plenty other cue sport content to keep you busy than my hair brain ideas haha
Great job thanks for your time today
Oh and the butt cap is the way it is because of the extensions they make for their cues. Now I'm not an extension kind of guy. I just don't like the added weight. But they are on par with the predator extensions for predator cues. Very well made, not much weight and when on the cue. Seems like it's just a normal cue. You can't really tell it's something added
Thanks for the input Jason I’m still
Learning hahaha
Great vid pal. I just wanna know how many pints you had before you said, what you said at 2:32?? ;) Cheers!
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Yeah I got the 300 dollar one and it comes in a nice box with joint protectors I love it 👌
Ohh any pictures I’d like to see
I bought j flowers cue about two years ago, but bat end starting to clucks after I play about week. I contacted to maker, but not even answer. I wasted 500usd..
but I learn value for real quality.
2 years ago JFlowers did not operate in the US. You either bought it if eBay/Amazon/alibaba or a US dealer (who should have helped you)
I have a j flowers cue. What you said about the tip was the only real bad thing. But I don't blame j flowers for that . Mori tips have just been inconsistent over the last ten years. Some play as well as any tip on the market. Then you get a bad one that feels spongy and just dead. I personally just switched the tip to a techno dud and had a white pad put on under the tip. It looks like a 1/16 of an inch ferrule. The shaft really seems way more lovely with the techno dud tip. But but I know a guy who put a kamui tip on his and he just loves that combo as well. The tip is an easy change. I've never bought or not bought a cue based on what tip was on it
What do do you think is the top or best cue or cues to get with outlining of price?
This one seems great to me, especially with a carbon cue
Just ordered this and used your code! Cheers Karl! Also, how long did you wait for delivery? I live in UK. TIA
Wasn’t long bro
Hello @Arthur G, where can I find the code?
How long was it for delivery? And update on the cue ?
Well its amazing!
I have tried 4 or 5 times to order a cue from Jflowers and can never get PayPal to work. PayPal is there only way to pay. I called the number in Florida and was told to keep trying. I had a friend try to order and they experienced the same he emailed them and got the same response. I’m starting to believe they are a scam
Seems strange I don’t think they are a scam 👀
JFLOWERS charged me but no cue ships. never respond not anything. only a confirmation email.
how tall are you, Karl?
6”5’ I think
Karl is $319 tall 😂
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6’2
I bought one of these cues last December b/c I wanted low deflection and wanted to try carbon fiber. I had/have a viking vahalla. I love this cue. Great sound and great feel on the cue ball. Shaft diameter size at 12.5 is good for me coming out of the Vahalla which was 13 or 13.5. I feel like it's made this roughly 400ish fargo amatuer player better and more accurate. Can't beat the value at $319. Mine also came with a 6 inch extension. Along with Karl, I highly recommend
Yes for that money is pretty ridiculous isn’t it hahaha
Does it have little deflection or ?
Hi Karl, good job bringing players into the carbon fiber world for under $350 bucks. Another great video, thank you.
Thanks pal
Some people are afraid of this carbon fiber when they see that its price is low, as this gives an impression that its quality is not high. What do you think of this?
As a user of JFlowers I can confirm that they are the real deal 👍 great review
Oh no!! They got you too
Got me ? 👀
Maybe this will start to drive the price down on the others. Good luck in Las Vegas.
Guys, guys.. I didn't catch the price. What was it again?
$319.00 usdollar
319 dollas
It's 319 dollars 😅
I bought a jflowers cue costing aroun $800, it came with a hard case and joint protector. Very satisfied with it of a middle entry level
Just bought the JF20-21. Should be here in about week half or so. I've had all predators so I'm curious how this will stack up. Time will tell
Good choice bro! I had a predator cue before and sold it tbh predator is just a high end brand and expensive especially the reco, but you will still get the same feel on jflowers💪🏻
All the predators? That’s a lot of cues!
WHY PAY 1,00 PLUS FOR A PRODUCTION CUE. I WOULD HAVE WENT TO A CUSTOM CUE MAKER
@@Madoggie_35 i just received this cue today, and i plays very different then the revo. Maybe they change the quality of the shaft
How is the JF20-21
After having seen the entire video I must say you did not mention the price enough! So again, how much it was? 🤪
319 😝
How to buy this cue online
Love the videos,but can you maybe speak louder when your far away from camera
With the money my wife let me spend "on me" that would be my high end cue my budget ! like the vid, siple, to the point cheers from france ( the former Boyes hater)
Hahaha hahaha
Meanwhile I'm shooting with a 68 dollar Amazon cue and I'm pretty impressed with it. I've had high dollar players cues. Good review my man and 319 is not bad for c.f.
In my club people buy cues for a 1000 bucks. Reasoning: in some year I will want to upgrade and I will pay double. Now I am torn. Any ideas on that one?
I think j flowers marketing directive , send everyone with thousands of subscribers a free cue ..have them sell it through a testimonial review . They gave Efren Reyes a cue too ! They shot a home made video of him practicing with it .. l think they put a gun to his head …ha
How much is the cue Karl? ;)
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319$
I played with a Revo shaft for a bit and i'm not a fan......sorry
I have a Pechauer cue and a Z-shaft...i like that combo better...
What about the deflection? Would you mind doing the deflection test that DrDave uses. Would appreciate that brother. You could even do a UA-cam short on it. Thanks 🙏
You trying to hack that scale is the most epic discovery on this channel!
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Probably u can try their carbon fibre breakcue next? 😄
Oh yes il get one
I've been playing with a viking valhalla that was like 200 or something and got a custom made carbon shaft from Al at the legendary q-masters for just over 100 and it plays great. Havent been able to play with anything else, but cheaper cues still play great
I also play out of Qs. I play with a Predator Aspire but recently acquired an Al blackwell custom...thinking about throwing a revo or something on it 😂
@@edisonav7326 hell yea! Awesome to meet ya man. I just got an Invictus shaft from viking because I'm starting to lean more towards wood shafts and i play in the VIP room and I tested it back there and it feels great. I'm using a kamui original medium 12.5
I've got a Valhalla, but I swapped on a Viking spin shaft (maple). It's really nice.
For a love of me I don't understand why a cue maker would not sell just a shaft. OK, let's say I'm ready to drop $300.00 for entire cue just to get carbon shaft...but no, let's put on a cue this ridiculous join so shaft cannot be used with another butt. I don't understand their business strategy but if they start selling just carbon shaft with all available joints...at least with most popular...I can guaranty you they would substantially increase the sales.
Unfortunately I have no answers 🤣🥲
Hi karl, I recently purchased a Cuetec Avid cue. Could you please make a comparison video between that and this Jflowere CF cue?
By the way, you're doing a great job sir.
Thanks buddy glad your liking it
@@KarlBoyesPoolLife it's my pleasure watching you man❤
SEND HIM YOUR CUE TO MAKE THE COMPARISON
Cr4p Karl cause I'm actually owning a cuetec cynergy blue if not ? And I have to buy a cue this gonna be a good option 319€ for a full cue with carbon fiber ? 🤔🤔 Better than "carbon Aliexpress fiber" should be hahahaha good option and good video coming with "cheap" cues for every pocket 💪🏿💪🏿 non all the players can afford a 1000€ cue. Nice video.
Thanks champ glad you are liking them
Bro what's better that cue or the cuetech chroma? Planning to buy
I want to buy this
What is this model called?
Great review! I'll have to give it a go for that price point. Thanks for the video review! Cheers.
Defo bro it’s worth the risk hahaha
Great review i was wondering how the jflowers compared to the cuetec avid series. Keep doing good work karl!💪💪💪
Thanks bro
@@KarlBoyesPoolLife Karl,is that a Gabriel’s pool table that you have? I recognize the bullet pockets.
Where did you buy your cue from buddy was it in the UK?
How about what’s in the box with predator logo 🧐
Comingggggg
Hey Karl, how does it compare to the Predator Revo and the Cuetec Cynergy??
It feels the same actually I’ve tried cuetec against jflowers and hits and felt the same! Its just the price that is different between them😂
@@Madoggie_35 THATS BECAUSE THERE ARE 2 MNFRS IN CHINA THAT PRODUCE ALL THE CARBON FIBER CUES/BLANKS. CALL THEM AND THEY PRINT ANY NAME ON THE SHAFTS
Karl FYI: Love your content. However, when recording your videos, please turn up the recording volume. I have my volume at the max level😮
Oh and btw their jump cue is as good as the cuetec propel jump cue. I've tested one out with a cuetec and a new predator. Honestly think they all 3 perform the same and the j flowers is cheaper. But I haven't found one better than the custom XLR8 jump break cue I have. It also has a bullet proof tip on it. That tip is a game changer. My jump break works as well jumping as a full cue as the cuetec or predator or j flowers with there extensions in. And when I break it down to a 42 inch jump cue I can easily get over a full ball from an inch away. Awesome cue
I’m going to get it and try it out it’s looks nice pal, glad your are liking it buddy
I ordered a j flowers brkr no wrap directly from their website and the shaft was warped right out of the box; I rolled it on the table before chalking it and using it for the first time. So far the customer service has been satisfactory although I am still awaiting the verdict. Overall extremely disappointed, I had very high hopes.
I have messaged them for you
@@KarlBoyesPoolLife sorry, I should have updated this comment. It is resolved now, they should be sending me a new shaft and a return label for the old one. Thank you anyway, though.
I been playing with the jf10 11 great value for money
How much are these?
I have been playing a standard deflection wood cue for many years and I want to go to carbon fiber. I have narrowed my search down to two cues, the CUPPA Technology Pool Cue with Low Deflection Carbon Fiber Shaft and the J.Flowers SABER 1 (Wrapless black) with the Aero Grade Carbon Fiber shaft.
Both are about equal in price with the J.Flowers coming in a little more but the CUPPA cue also provides you with a nice semi hard case and a few accessories.
I was hoping that someone here could give me some insight as to which would be the better option, if anyone has experience with either of these cues.
Thanks a lot!
I think if your unsure on carbon start cheap
Andrew, which cue did you end up purchasing? And where were you able to find the Cuppa cue ?
@@jroller8018 I ended up going with the J.Flowers SABER 1 (Wrapless black) but the CUPPA can be found on Amazon. Very happy with my J.Flowers :)
So happy found this video, I have an old 5280 cue that I love with a warped shaft that's impossible to find a replacement shaft for, found it recently it has a 3/8 x 8 pin, was considering buying a new cue and giving up on the search (found one shaft but it was pricy with only a one year warranty).. just ordered one of these for two birds with one stone. Warranty on this is also one year but not too worried about warpage with the carbon fiber 👍🏻. Thank you for making this video.
Thank you for the kind words
What is the carbon doing?
Sounds like chinese made. Nah
Since you used to be sponsored by predator you should do a carbon vs wood shaft comparison
That will come Raymond 💪🏻💪🏻 thanks for the input much appreciated
Champion Dragon Pool cue buy or not? (OPEN)
Need to get one don’t I
Played with this cue a few times. It's the best feeling cue I've ever played with. Extremely soft hitting and extremely satisfying.
Thanks
What about the tip? Do you have the one it comes with, or did you swap it it out. The web site has 20 options ... from brands and feels s,m,h
@@philipchang4453 Standard
This looks like the perfect cue for me 🤩🤩, cheers Karl! Hopefully they're still $319 in June or so when I need one
Why wait?grab it while still possible at this price!-it’s an absolute steal!!!!!!!!????
EBAY HAS CHEAPER CARBON FIBER SHAFT/CUES THAN THIS COMPANY. ALL IMPORTED ANYWAY FROM ONE OF 2 MNFRS. SAVE YOUR MONEY BUY THE 200 SETUP. THIS CUE, FLOWERS, INLAYS ARE STICKERS ANYWAY!!!
That's how it came to me today just got my mine delivered today.
Thanks for heads up
Now you can lend Judd more frequently your playing cue, if you have this backup.
How much cost it :)
What was the price again?
Minimun price range about $319👍🏻
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I can't stand fiber cues!!I I have a very nice Richard Black Cue "Black Baron" bought in 1976 for $750.00..Been all over the world with it!! It is worth a lot of Money!! Made alot of money withi it!!! I just love wood!!!!
Try the Jflowers carbon or the Predatator. Just tried a P3 and it seems a bit better than woods.
I just got my J Flowers cue yesterday. The 20-21f was available since my first choice wouldn’t be ready till June-July. Your review of the brand was very helpful. I played a few hours yesterday, and I’m definitely impressed. May not pickup my OB cue again lol. The cue I got has inlays and is very stunning. I still want the one that’s on back order, but this cue maker is definitely worth looking into. Want the jump break next. Thanks for your advice.
ALL OF THE LOW PRICED CUES 300-700 HAVE STICKERS. THOSE ARE NOT REAL INLAYS. ADVERISEMENTS ON EBAY ALSO STATE THIS. AND CAN BE CONFIRMED WITH MNFR. THERE ARE ALOT OF CF CUES ON EBAY, MOST LIKELY SAME MANUFACTURER. SINCE ONLY 2 MAKE ALL THE SHAFTS IN THE INDUSTRY. CALL THEM AND THEY WILL PUT ANY COMPANY NAME, YOUR NAME ON THE SHAFTS
@@PostUp_Timejf10 is different from jf20, jf20 is slightly higher spec and more expensive
Bk rush review
Hello Karl, which is better, this or cuetec avid, the range price between these two in my place is around $56 and im a beginner but im dedicated to be good at this game, do you think I should go for avid or add another $56 dollar for this j flower. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
And sorry for my bad English :)
I would say this one because you get full carbon fibre shaft,
So it’s a way to get into the market for a good price bro 💪🏻💪🏻
Can you play Cuetec SVB cue in the videos?
I wish they had more simple designs or sold shaft alone
Review Peri Cues, pls. Thank you!
Karl, Jflowers offers an extension for this cue. Amazon has the same cue that is branded Konnlen. You can get one that is 63" (160cm), with 2 shafts for $370 or so. 1 carbon fiber shaft and 1 regular maple shaft. I`m 6`2", thinking about getting one.
I believe the Konnlen is a knockoff of JF!!!
Very interesting thanks for the heads up
I've had 2nd thoughts about the 63" cue, just too long for regular play. Standard length with an extension would be better for me. Am considering the Jflowers though. Thanks for the review of it.
Konllen gets the returns that have defects, i.e. manufacturer defects, shipping damage. I heard Jflowers is trying to take a legal route to shut them down due to the bad publicity the damaged cues are generating. Konllen is taking advantage of a new market that is still wide open (carbon fiber) by knowingly selling damaged cues.
@@GolfBattleMastery Thank you for clearing that up for me, I thought if there was no difference the Konnlen from Amazon would be the way to go because of free shipping and returns. Crap shoot on what you would get with a Konnlen, a little cosmetic blemish would be ok, but joint issues or warpage not so much. Thanx again PALifeCoach.
Did you ever mention the price?
Lol 319😝
Noice
It's a wood shafted coated with carbon fiber
No. 100% carbon fiber
This one is 💯 carbon
What’s the name of the music in the minute 8:53?
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Karl I love the way you de-mystify this game we love. Many pros want us to think they perform magic (and it often seems so) but I love your approach . Makes me want to up my very average game. 😎😎😎😎
great video. 12:29
Hey my man. Lovely video yet again. I really enjoyed this video. I found is fantastic to see the ins and outs of a cheep cue (if that makes sense) love to see the $319 cue 🤫🤣 go up against a expensive cue to see the difference from your side my man. #MuchLove #PoolLife 💛🤝🏻
That’s a really good looking cue for the price
Definitely 👍🏻
@@Madoggie_35 INLAYS ARE STICKERS. ON MODEL SHOWN. DOES EVERYONE KNOW THAT FACT?
The rubber comes out so you can screw the extension in so you don’t have to have it in. I have the same make of cue won it from Neight off the cue it up network. $339 mine
I bought it and play with for like 4 months really i don’t recommend i sell it and i just got a cheapr cue from viper for like 50$ on amazon it’s plays better now i upgrade for revo 12.4
Hi there again Karl,I bought this cue about 5 months ago,I'm totally satisfied with it,I also own a predator SP 2 with revo shaft at1050 $,anyone considering to buy this cue I would strongly suggest to purchase and as soon as possible,it's an absolute steal!
Check out cue listings for his recommendation and he owns a cue worth over 3500 dollars!!! BUY NOW FOLKS!
Thanks for your input buddy much appreciated glad you like the cue 💪🏻
@@KarlBoyesPoolLife you are welcome. How did u manage to miss your flight? 60,000 bucks potentially lost……..
THEY ARE MASS PRODUCED. THEY ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. SAME MNFR SELLS UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES. THEY HAVE 200 SETUPS ON EBAY, CF SHAFTS, ETC/
@@PostUp_Time sorry you are clueless,if u had purchased a product from them you would be aware of their disclaimer. Sounds like sour grapes to me got their 320 JF-10 and it plays as good as any cue in the 890 $range FACT !!
just recieved mine a couple days ago. my first impressions are that this cue is very good value for the price. the fit and finish are excellent as is the balance. ive played about 6 hrs or so with it abd overall have a positive view. there are a couple things i dont like: 1st, it sounds like an aluminum bat on the hit, if not perfectly performed center hit. 2nd, there is a lot of vibration with off center or extreme spin hits. if i keep the tip within one tip of center ball both the sound and vibration are more pleasing. but, for 320 usd, i wont complain.
Did not like the sound on mine too. Maybe it takes getting used to. Things I don't like on the J Flowers:
1. As you screw on the shaft, the shaft is not secure until the last thread. What I mean by this is you can shake the shaft and it would move. This means the joint threads are not precision.
2. The tip seems to be thinner. I ordered 12.5mm Kamui Medium and it looks thin compared to my other 12.5mm wood shaft from Viking Valhalla. However, I measured the tip using caliper and it measured 12.47mm. Not sure why it feels thin. I may have to measure the Valhalla shaft.
3. The weight is concentrated on the butt as the shaft is too light. I upgraded to the Crown Shaft but this is probably generally true for CF shafts.
4. It takes getting used to the sound.
5. The shipping box does not have much protection. Mine came in with holes (UPS guy probably held on it too tight. I put my finger on the hole and I felt the cue. The bubble wrap is only on the end of the box, none in between.
The good things:
1. It came with suede soft case.
2. It came with joint protectors.
3. The design looks great. I got the JF20-26F.
4. The price is very good.
5. Customer Service is 2nd to none. I initially ordered the Dante 2 but changed my mine one day after and the email reaction time is very good and they always respond. Thanks, Sydney!
How much is the cue ?😆
$319
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I need this cue. I have a cheap action cue. I just don’t know what I like
It’s funny how Efren Reyes made a cameo saying that this is a good cue (it is!) but I admire how he and other players still stick to the classic wooden shaft!
Lately Efren uses a Predator cue, with wood shaft.
In the old days Efren won his matches using a $10 wooden cue that he borrowed from a friend named Cesar Morales.
@@psijicassassin7166 True.
First 😝
Not watched it tho 😜
@@KarlBoyesPoolLife Finished watching now lol thanks for sharing about the jflowers cue, keep it up karl 💪🏻
Karl is the best