We Signed One Of The Worst Record Contracts With Atlantic Records (247Hh Exclusive)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Music Bed Produced By: OK! Chris
Introduction Produced By: Mike Jaxx and Tha Hydrox
Skinny DeVille of Nappy Roots sits down with @247HH to talk about how they found out that they had signed one of the worst deals, when they first signed with Atlantic Records. Find out how they made a negative situation into a very positive one. #247HHEXCL
All my life Been Po.. But it Don't Matter No Mo...🎼🎼🎼🕶💯✊🏽🙏🏽🥃🔥🔥🔥✊🏽Nappy Roots Still in da Deck....
Love that song
Daryle Granderson Yes sir
That is so damn saavy how they re-invested that money into a studio. Of course nowadays you don't need much money to run a home recording studio, but it shows how dedicated they were to being successful and didn't blow they money at that first $30,000 that makes me respect them.
Benny Enriquez common sense tbh lol why would anyone spend borrowed money that you’re obligated to pay back
A decent professional studio...
We been getting our own studio's b4 that because we had no choice.
They kept their publishing so it wasn't the worst deal ever.
how much would you need as an artist to make a home studio?
The group I was in had a deal with Motown Records and found out that our Mgr actually had the deal and he kept 90% of our budget and NEVER told us what happened to our deal back in 1991 the music industry is widespread fuckery/mismanagement agreements when your Mgr has power of attorney over the whole process. We had already made two hit songs independently before we even met the Mgr who got us the record deal, he had no remorse nor ethical standards about our business affairs .. long live the B.A.D band and our dream/careers!
"two big hits" oh yeah? What were the two big hits? Liar
"Stay Awhile" was released in 1984 on Rolls Voice Records. The second independent deal with Sinban Records we released "All I want is you " in 1986.
Always have a lawyer read the contract before signing. They were really smart getting their own recording studio tho.
Story of the fugees is pretty crazy too. They caught a brick on their first record then for their second they took the smallest possible advance and built a recording studio with a very small production team. That small investment led to the Score. They created generational wealth for themselves.
rodolfo navas Then y is Lauren hill so broke
rodolfo navas whatever they did didn't do them any good
All of this without ever having an original thought.
FOH pras got hella money. Just search pras watch collection on UA-cam, you don’t own those type of watches if you’re broke. Pras been smart with his investments
@@slumone6458 cause she stopped making music and have kids. Hard making money doing both those things
this video has way too little views, this is the side of the music industry we don't see
its a garbage artist making music noone will ever hear why does he deserve anything
With any legal matter, get a lawyer. Doubt they had a lawyer take a look at the first deal since this happened.
Get a lawyer that doesn't work for the record label. Same Mistake T.L.C did..a lawyer that works for your boss doesn't work for u..u pay them but they don't work for u. Their job is to swindle money out of the artist for the record company. The goal is to make the record label money..and keep the artist broke.
You must get your OWN lawyer
Lawyer couldn't do shit as they had no leverage
BeastmodeKes exactly. In these cases it’s like “take it or leave it...you and your lawyer both can leave”
labels like to buy the lawyers
I can honestly say these guys have a record that brings tears to my eyes when I see and hear it.
You can hear the hunger in their voices in that song.
"All my life been poor so it really don't matter no more"
Glad ya'll kept your publishing
Eat Food Music That song is timeless
Eat Food Music what song is that ?
I met this group along with Anthony Hamilton. Back in the Early 2000's. In Columbia,SC. At Ace's Check Cashing. Very Humble Group.
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Po' Folks
Man....people miss y'all. ..
Awnaw is one of the most underrated songs ....is dope AF!all time classic!!!!!
MUCH LOVE NAPPY ROOTS, FROM WEST KENTUCKY MAYFIELD REPPIN
They're not alone. Atlantic has been know to sign artists with worst contracts for decades.
this is exactly what i thought ... if you get 100.000 - 500.000 dollar for recording an album - for this money i would build my own studio, instead of wasting this money for their (record label) stuff ... because this is exactly what they want --> getting you out of money
So they give you money so you get out of money... Makes sense
@@emoquent9447 No. They don't give u shit.
Alexander Pressler Yeah spend your advance on production and marketing
Dude you would spend all that money for something you can get with a CPU.
You can tell you either don't what your talking about or you don't know how to budget for shit...
Period, nobody really knows these record labels are really like loan sharks, your an investment and they expect they money bak, with interest
wait ... he just said they made us famous.
not true ....
you made yourself famous
with out you there is no them . thats what artist need to realize .
your the answer !!
Roger DJ EZD Defreese you’re only allowed to say so much about a label. That’s in the contract too
You can have the best music in the world but without the budget and network to get it to the masses and to be put in the spotlight you won’t level up.
Sony Bruno exactly and in a saturated market of so many people making music and so little ways to make money making music with the fact that people do not buy records they stream it for free. It makes things extremely difficult.
A lot of people have this idea and fantasy hat they can just make a good record and they will blow up. They have no idea how the business works and how much money, time, investment, timing and connections and luck have to be in perfect alignment to blow up or even level up in your career as an artist.
Hung out with Chickenfoot and Scales bk in the day when I was trapping out in Johnson City TN.
Blew purple in VIP with them cats and just chopped it up for couple hours.
Shout-out Scales n Chickenfoot!
Real ones fasho💪
aw naw hell naw boi, y'all don up and don it
Should have had a lawyer before you signed the contract
Pretty amazing that they got to keep the publishing, I’m sure the label still kept the bulk of it though. (Labels giving up 100% of publishing is unheard of.) Only thing about publishing royalties is, unless they have songs in heavy rotation on radio, and songs on tv and in films, those publishing checks will be minuscule. Owning publishing overseas is the way to go, they pay out money for everything.
Despite what some may think it’s extremely difficult to make a living as an independent artist in the US. That’s not to say that labels are always the answer either though.
I remember thinking about this alot back in the day when youtube started popping. I grew up with one of these guys in KY. It feels like Nappy missed the independent wave by just a few years, and that part is unfortunate.
Record Companies never have the interest of the artist in mind. They basically stay wealthy off of (especially hip-hop rap artists) the most and they don't even listen to or like the music, its all about controlling the artist until they aren't making money off them anymore, and they tend to change up quickly and bail on the artist. But now we just past a major threshold in the industry several years back and artists took it back by investing in almost every aspect of their work and i believe the rabbit got the gun from here on out!
I am a songwriter who has managed to receive offers for working with one Artist and two Labels which I declined. I however took up on an offer with one of the top three labels in the world after they requested my biography and demo hard-copies last year that dragged me through a five month tango in which they lied to me about 'sending my contract' on several occasions and then recanting as if lost into finally completely ignoring my emails.
JGORG wow I'm also a artist
Never understood why the music industry is so vicious and conniving. There's enough money to go around so that people don't have to be used or screwed over. Do some of these labels/Reps not believe in Karma?
@@NomadicXXL these are people who are blinded by greed & money.. they don't understand morals or purpose, only gaining more for themselves.
Meena Khan Official UA-cam Channel did you copyright your work?
@@andrecato2261 anything written and tangible is auto copy right
Record labels are fking it up for the good labels! I dont blame artists to go solo and do there thing since there is no trust at all with labels.
I.won't sign a major deal I.went to music business school
Jay B 's Press Start Entertainment foreal i got my own label it's better cause label be owning you and taken your 💰
Jay B 's Press Start Entertainment so!
Jay B 's Press Start Entertainment I started my own label over ten years ago, I records myself
@@osiawideman7641 How'd you go by starting it bro? I want my own label. I get approached by major labels but I'm not negotiating from a position of power. I think i can get a better deal if I'm negotiating label to label.
Mike Rocio get with ASCAP or BMI, copyright your music,I got mine own label when I copyrighted my own music back in the early 2000, ASCAP still send me little stats every now then
Nappy Roots gonna be okay
Being Signed To A So So Record Label,LOOOOOL,In the early 2000's ,I didn't have anyone to steer me in the right direction as far as publishing,writing,&recouping the $200,000 signing bonus,my family only cared about the $$,&both of my projects were shelved!!!
My ride be sittin on dem HUNDRED SPOKES!!!!
2019 still slappin that Nappy!
They work with my cousin on music in hopskinsville ky
@Adrian Wallace it is .....but less blacks more opportunities.....you dont have to be uncle tom to be accepted just handle things professional and legal you'll have no issues.....
The had the worst deal at first but they kept reinvesting into themselves and making records and built leverage to get better deals over time.
If he thinks his record deal was shitty he should talk to Black Rob. Puffy signed him to a 9 album deal for $300,000. Nigga could have gotten a job as a manager at McDonald's and made more money.
Wow no shit ?
Judy jones Cincinnati stand up
Press up queen 💯💯💯💪
You gentlemen are very smart with your money. To take that money and open your own studio pure genius.
These boys was dope...
The main thing and first thing is to invest in your own studio, your own art team and your own lawyers! Never ever get a lawyer recommended by the labels! All the major fees that these labels tripple on are those what I mentioned.
Glad folks r startin to explain how paper work in the industry really goes down
One of the best groups period
Now you and your people legendary in the game that we love so very much keep the fight up but dont make it too easy for the newbies
Why would you sign for “30,000” dollars 🤯
Pay less back
Louisville stand up nappy roots now Bryson tiller artist coming soon
shawty...where yo head at??
Thank you for posting best content always.
Unsigned Artist from Greenville SC Name Big Quise
Thanks for this - Very Helpful!
Always respected they music
Same story for “city high”?
And I love these dude's music too
Everything is 90 percent business 10 percent show
He seemed humble about it
Walking record labels make sure u have check
They might have been taken advantage of but it gave them a launch pad to level up with fan base and to have higher level recording. They also were associated with major talent. With out this they might just have been a underground group that never picked up steam.
I heard that one of them purchased alot of property in Atlanta after the first album ( maybe its him)
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More content like this, please and thanks!
Awesome you exposed them man w/this video. Props. Keep making music!
Great and educational interview! 👍🏽
Atlantic records is terrible
i foxed with nappy roots, i wondered what happened
I have their first two albums!
Respect!
Damn Atlantic is f'd up
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST: THE PRISONERS BIBLE. .. Google THE BOOK!
Or FACE THE MUSIC!!
No surprise, look at Keke Palmer and Gia Farrell. They were ripped off and forced away from their own creative music. Now Lizzo and Kelly Clarkson have signed to them and are probably being screwed by them too or forced to make music they don't like or get low promotion.
Does anybody know what kind of glasses he has on
Independent is the best way
I love NR
At the end..."i wouldn't change none of that" ??? guess it wasn't that bad😂
The whole world is country...
I forgot about Nappy Roots
YTU1116 everybody did
They are on tour with bone thugs
Nice video
30K?!?!?!??!?! THAT'S IT?!?!?! #aw #naw #hellnaw
I only heard that one song from them have not heard anything else.
southern daze the media and radio only that one song all the time gotta check out more of there stuff.
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No Joke.
Who is he?
It’s crazy
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People in these comments love to harp on getting a lawyer. What they don't tell you is what type of lawyer to get... Get a lawyer that specializes in the music business. Your cousin's husband who's a criminal lawyer won't work. Every industry has their own rules that change every year, that lawyers then study and specialize in. If your lawyer doesn't study music business law then you will still end up with a shitty contract because you can guarantee the record labels have the best lawyers who know every trick in the book and will finesse you somehow on an edge case. The business is changing fast and your leverage is limited. The goal isn't to get a good contract the first time around. The goal is to fight for what you want, in exchange know how you're getting screwed and leave room in your contact to renegotiate when you have the leverage to get a better contract later on.
Wow
All around the world same song.
30k 🤦♂️
jay Gucci right I was like 🧐 but 30,000 was a lot back then 30 was like 100k today but I still wouldn’t do that
@@RRASHAD1k lol. Nah bruh. 30k was a C class Benz back then. Nothin close to 100k. I feel old as hell.
Aw naw hell naw
Hahaha the way he's explaining it sounds just about right. should stayed independent
That's what happened to Dem Immm thats what happened to dem
*RULE #1* don't fuck with anything that has to do with the Music Industry. no not the contracts and you trusting them who? the people. *RULE#2* industry is fake every tainted material things are not real *RULE#3* don't ever giver up your royalties publishing rights and your *SOUL!* *RULE#4* always have a lawyer to check your paperwork.
Atlantic is the worst label
Of course!
Every artist that’s left Atlantic has exposed them as a bad label
Lol
Goodshit music crazy man
His Lil ass arms lol
If you guys are listening to those before you that went through the same start reading your contracts or get a lawyer to start with. Use your gift of common sense rather than thinking of the big bling around your neck first.
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Dam bro wtf
Fuck death row epic got me 500 grand in a month
I mean no disrespect, however I thought these guys was going to cause a serious problem for Outkast. NR were coming and they were coming hard. Great sound, lyrical and humble.
The industry is designed to eliminate raw talent in order to brainwash the masses to listen to bull....
I hear what you're saying, but I don't know. They sounded a little too much like Outkast in order to cause a problem for them.
Record executives are the scum of the earth.
He lying he would change it all I mean who wants the worst record deal ever🤷🏾♂️
Always bring your lawyer!
Don't trust these MOFOS!
But that was a great $30,000 investment because you can rent out to other people.
ahh hell naw
Cardi’s impact.
Wat?
They were out 15 years before her
Universal Records Propaganda! Fucking Hypocrite. So it's better to sign a Universal Records 360 Deal than a Warner Music 360 Deal 😂😂
Nappy roots sucks. It’s music for target commercials. I’ve literally never heard anyone say they listen to nappy roots.