Tournament Legal Glitches and Jank in Melee

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  • @Schmorbo
    @Schmorbo 4 роки тому +4125

    Legal Jank has to be one of my favorite terms ever

  • @nggaish
    @nggaish 4 роки тому +1158

    3:25 100% accurate armada thumbnail

  • @Sahilkmr78
    @Sahilkmr78 4 роки тому +667

    0:26 I like how instead of just removing Marth after a few seconds, he falls through a platform out of frame. Well played sir

    • @palereaper
      @palereaper 4 роки тому +29

      I thought it was crouching 🤷

  • @lugiagalaxy3849
    @lugiagalaxy3849 4 роки тому +1102

    the armada pictures had me rolling LOLLL

  • @piercehacquard4747
    @piercehacquard4747 4 роки тому +85

    3:12 talks about Marth, Roy, and Peach... background image: Neuschwanstein Castle. A castle for the royal characters. All these tiny little details that don't draw attention to themselves and are only on-screen for like 4 seconds. Just ace stuff.

  • @damocles7406
    @damocles7406 3 роки тому +69

    "But they fucked up." Is really the motto of Melee's coding.

  • @yoshimallow
    @yoshimallow 4 роки тому +158

    4:00 I don't follow the Melee competitive scene. So to finally hear that Wobbling is no longer tournament legal after all these years, feels so damn satisfying.

    • @AtomicBoo
      @AtomicBoo 2 роки тому +19

      I stopped following after a while, so thats why I dont see ice climbers in tournaments as often as I saw them before 2020 huh, the more you know

  • @kwisowofer9872
    @kwisowofer9872 4 роки тому +423

    4:12 I see chunky Ness. THAT IS CHUNKY NESS.

  • @sgtfignewton9413
    @sgtfignewton9413 4 роки тому +151

    the fact that you don't have more subs is fuckin beyond me. your content is hilarious, original, well thought out, well edited, and easy to take in. keep up the great work man, every upload is something to look forward to for me.

  • @aqgpandemic5406
    @aqgpandemic5406 4 роки тому +106

    Minor correction on the thunder jacket, the hitbox actually stays until Ness dies, meaning it stays if you hit an opponent. It’s just not usually relevant because there’s a property in the game where a single hitbox can’t hit an opponent multiple times, but if you play with more than 2 people Ness will be able to hit each player in the battle with the thunder jacket once before he dies.

  • @agabrield
    @agabrield 4 роки тому +746

    *Wobbling*
    Me: oh noooo-
    "Wait, this isn't legal anymore"
    Oh thank god

    • @Therworldtube
      @Therworldtube 4 роки тому +14

      God damn Wobbles

    • @MantaRaydiated
      @MantaRaydiated 4 роки тому +67

      Therworldtube You know despite discovering the tech, Wobbles actually doesn’t go for it because he doesn’t like it.

    • @Therworldtube
      @Therworldtube 4 роки тому +42

      @@MantaRaydiated Ikr, that's how despised wobbling is. Not even the popularizer likes it.

    • @Shing_
      @Shing_ 4 роки тому +8

      You guys know that wobbles didn't create wobbling right?

    • @HRCFre4k
      @HRCFre4k 4 роки тому +25

      @@Shing_ iirc Wobbles saw it in videos from a japanese Icy player and used it in a Tournament and Ken gave it the name Wobbles. So he just made it "popular".
      At least that's what I remember, could be wrong tho.

  • @jokerkirby7051
    @jokerkirby7051 4 роки тому +346

    When you rob a bank and say, “Melee is legal, so this should be too.”

  • @swigtimefoxy4422
    @swigtimefoxy4422 4 роки тому +15

    2:11
    “Well you have to play as Roy for one.”
    Zain: Say no more.

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 4 роки тому +125

    5:06 biggest missed opportunity not nicknaming it "PK Shield β"

    • @Yubfan69420
      @Yubfan69420 10 місяців тому +1

      EXACTLY

    • @zFrost
      @zFrost 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought of the opportunity of naming it "Rubber cape", Like that one electric mother 3 item

  • @emulationemperor8924
    @emulationemperor8924 4 роки тому +91

    I always thought Roy's Up-B kill was due to the tipper or hilt mechanic. This has been super informative while also being fun to watch.

  • @MapleMilk
    @MapleMilk 4 роки тому +53

    I want to imagine that Ness' unintentional jacket moves are just him casting a PSI Counter in a roundabout way

  • @clematis726
    @clematis726 4 роки тому +162

    HOW DO YOU UPLOAD SO CONSISTENTLY AND WHY ARE THEY ALL SO GOOD WHAT THE HELL

  • @AtChiaPet
    @AtChiaPet 4 роки тому +135

    These Smash videos are definitely a part of my life now

  • @aaronchiang2225
    @aaronchiang2225 4 роки тому +36

    fun fact: you can actually SDI the blazer in so that you get hit by the followup hits and survive, since the followups dont kill you. If the roy player knows this, he can simply walk up and NOT turnaround blazer, since your sdi in will kill you by making you avoid the followups. So if you know how to deal with it, its a 50/50.

  • @Apple_Slices.
    @Apple_Slices. 4 роки тому +43

    I love how with the hurtboxes Ness looks chubby

  • @tawiido7285
    @tawiido7285 4 роки тому +1433

    Children's party game?
    CHILDREN'S PARTY GAME

    • @WillJohnson138
      @WillJohnson138 4 роки тому +84

      Tawiido Is he wrong though?

    • @sniddler9114
      @sniddler9114 4 роки тому +75

      That's exactly what it is, yes

    • @FFKonoko
      @FFKonoko 4 роки тому +25

      That it is.

    • @sonriku7331
      @sonriku7331 4 роки тому +41

      made with competitively viable mechanics

    • @userperkingmacbeth6715
      @userperkingmacbeth6715 4 роки тому +33

      @@sonriku7331 Only 25% of the roster being viable is a competitive mechanic?

  • @edgelord8337
    @edgelord8337 4 роки тому +63

    Finally at 100k
    Ngl you deserved it.
    You are probably one of the best smash bros melee youtubers on the platform.
    I just want to say congrats and keep it up.
    what sakurai thinks of glitches
    Sakurai: *that's not how your supposed to play the game*

    • @jawoseye2902
      @jawoseye2902 4 роки тому +1

      edge lord I see u everywhere

    • @Fizz-Q
      @Fizz-Q 4 роки тому

      Shut up edge baby

  • @stremstrem3632
    @stremstrem3632 4 роки тому +29

    4:12 that ness is CHUNKY

  • @HammerspaceCreature
    @HammerspaceCreature 3 роки тому +10

    Even as kids me and my brother discovered how busted the knockback on Roy's up-b is. He loved Roy and sometimes when we were on a stage with a low ceiling and he was losing he would just camp the highest point on the map and try to gank people with it.

  • @MusicMike512
    @MusicMike512 4 роки тому +3

    5:57 lol that Doom zombieman death

  • @nathanpopp8227
    @nathanpopp8227 4 роки тому +6

    2:43-2:48 When you get into the next grade thinking you got the semester in the bag only to be proven wrong from the first sentence of your teacher

  • @ShaboingboingBouncer
    @ShaboingboingBouncer 4 роки тому +70

    Other characters: NO!! YOU CAN’T JUST GLITCH YOUR HITBOX ONTO YOURSELF!!
    Ness: *haha down air glitch go spike*

  • @quailron1581
    @quailron1581 4 роки тому +26

    That falco transition at 2:57 was clean af

  • @frogturtle
    @frogturtle 4 роки тому +11

    Roy's up-b jank in Melee works similarly to Samus's up-b jank in Smash 4, known as the Shine Spark. The first hitbox is designed to 'shoot' your opponent into the following connecting hits which have less knockback, but by using the move in a certain way, you'd only hit them with the first hit which would indefinitely shoot them upward until they died off the top.
    Fox's forward air also sort of worked this way, another multi-hit move designed for the first hit to combo you into the rest of the hits, but this time by stunning you for the duration of the full attack. Off stage you could just hit a recovering opponent with the first hit of his fair, then DI away so the rest of the hits would miss. Your stunned opponent would helplessly fall to their death (and even if you didn't die the Fox could just footstool you for free afterwards which was definitely a kill,) because the game thinks the rest of Fox's fair will hit them and then they'll be knocked out of it by the last hit. Nope.
    There are many more examples of this BS in Smash 4, and to a more mild extent in Ultimate...it's interesting to see how trends carry across games. A lot of you probably are familiar with this type of jank if you've played Smash over the years, but a fun fact for those who didn't know :)

  • @zturtle1630
    @zturtle1630 4 роки тому +21

    These videos are so good. Well-written, well-edited. Definitely one of my favorite Smash channels

  • @emmbeesea
    @emmbeesea 4 роки тому +206

    But can the community re-legalize Mute City?
    Maybe one day.

    • @MapleMilk
      @MapleMilk 4 роки тому +32

      I'm still waiting for them to come to their senses and legalize Icicle Mountain

    • @opadrip
      @opadrip 4 роки тому +27

      Legalize Poke Floats

    • @malcolm5965
      @malcolm5965 4 роки тому +11

      why
      are
      you
      everywhere
      I
      go

    • @pedlar6839
      @pedlar6839 4 роки тому +6

      @@malcolm5965 Emm Bee Sea is what the comment section deserves, not what it needs.

    • @malcolm5965
      @malcolm5965 4 роки тому +4

      @@pedlar6839 The only thing the comment section deserves is a fucking nuke lmfao

  • @weilzudope
    @weilzudope 4 роки тому +153

    imagine what game we would have had if HAL had more time.

    • @weilzudope
      @weilzudope 4 роки тому +29

      @Bodybag Dotzip i dont really know tbh. but the only thing that i dont like about melee is characters having bad/useless moves

    • @sonriku7331
      @sonriku7331 4 роки тому +13

      @Bodybag Dotzip i mean they released a few more copies afterward and it was still somewhat the same so probably not

    • @tombcruisin
      @tombcruisin 4 роки тому +43

      Sadly, it might actually be worse. There's a heavy bias towards 1.02 these days--rather than PAL, and PAL was an attempt at a balance patch.

    • @musicbox7601
      @musicbox7601 4 роки тому

      @Bodybag Dotzip 3head balanced is good guys

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 4 роки тому +2

      @@tombcruisin probably because it isnt obvious how to get pal copies in America

  • @tommil_ssb3165
    @tommil_ssb3165 4 роки тому +32

    Me waiting for the in-depth explanation of how the multi set knock back hit boxes cause characters to die instantly...
    “But they fucked up”

    • @natnew32
      @natnew32 4 роки тому +1

      Reversing up-B causes the first hitbox to come out on the original side, so the rest don't connect.

    • @tommil_ssb3165
      @tommil_ssb3165 4 роки тому +2

      natnew32 I know, it was a joke

  • @shank2281
    @shank2281 4 роки тому +4

    You just keep getting better and better at this. Keep it up Asum, love your vids.

  • @neighborhood_k
    @neighborhood_k 4 роки тому +26

    Children's party game? Ill have you know this game is rated T for teens, because it's for big boys.

  • @GabRadis
    @GabRadis 4 роки тому +3

    you make the greatest and the highest quality smash content by far my dawgydog . keep up the great work

  • @garrettpeterson3324
    @garrettpeterson3324 4 роки тому +5

    You have the cleanest transitions I've seen. Good job dude!

  • @bugjams
    @bugjams 4 роки тому +3

    Who else here has never played a single Smash Bros game (or at least Melee) in their life, yet still finds these videos endlessly entertaining?

  • @easilyeasy
    @easilyeasy 4 роки тому +8

    I don't even follow competitive melee, and I have yet to see a tournament, but these videos are still awesome

  • @drop_8694
    @drop_8694 4 роки тому +39

    Does anyone else think that he sounds like mordecai from the regular show

    • @splinky9226
      @splinky9226 3 роки тому +1

      He also kinda sounds like Jonah Hill

  • @rang4889
    @rang4889 4 роки тому +2

    Snowy: "One of the best puffs"
    Hbox:*ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*

    • @Yubfan69420
      @Yubfan69420 10 місяців тому

      He said “one of the” not “the”

  • @jakegwolford
    @jakegwolford 3 роки тому

    I found your channel about a week ago and haven’t been able to stop watching. I only play Ultimate and haven’t touched Melee since it was the latest Smash game, but these glitches are something else.

  • @Zonda1996
    @Zonda1996 4 роки тому +9

    Throwing shade at armada thumbnails is my favourite thing to come from smash YT.

  • @_-Dante-_
    @_-Dante-_ 4 роки тому +27

    Still waiting on that Super Yo-yo Glitch to be found.
    Actually, it might be better if it isn't.

    • @regirayquaza
      @regirayquaza 4 роки тому +4

      @MIGUEL RIVERA It will when we find it!

    • @sebastienmonette6659
      @sebastienmonette6659 3 роки тому +1

      @@regirayquaza look at the second top comment, a sorta super yoyo glitch is explained there

  • @jackpeta9626
    @jackpeta9626 4 роки тому +1

    yo these videos keep getting better and better

  • @paniniweeni1022
    @paniniweeni1022 4 роки тому +1

    the transitions are so well-done!

  • @pyrojack8230
    @pyrojack8230 3 роки тому +5

    I've never been as scared seeing Roy in that thumbnail since he actually got strength in a levelup... at level 20

  • @Red_Biker_Dude
    @Red_Biker_Dude 5 місяців тому +1

    I like how this video has some stages that aren't even in Melee. I rewatched this video multiple times and didn't even notice that he was playing on Wario Ware.

  • @sorakyle
    @sorakyle 4 роки тому +2

    best melee channel on yt hands down :^)

  • @jenschneider305
    @jenschneider305 3 роки тому +5

    20RR
    An alternate timeline where all melee players have mastered Roy’s instakill up-B and now melee has become a ground based footsies game.

    • @emptyvending8964
      @emptyvending8964 3 роки тому +1

      Melee Players would still stay it's the best game

    • @emoimo4171
      @emoimo4171 3 роки тому

      Except… it only works against Puff and a couple trash tiers.

  • @EPMTUNES
    @EPMTUNES 4 роки тому +2

    Great video AsumSaus!

  • @sakiyoshida4821
    @sakiyoshida4821 4 роки тому +4

    You reminding me that wobbling is banned made my day.

  • @endlel
    @endlel 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks, now I’m going to use Roy to counterpick Puff

  • @CAlex46
    @CAlex46 4 роки тому +2

    the ye old doom sound effects make the vids here so much much more hilarious.

  • @readyplayerthree3
    @readyplayerthree3 3 роки тому

    Holy CRAP, I don't play melee, but I play a lot of Rivals of Aether. I knew the developers of RoA were melee fans and I had already seen hot melee effected Rivals, but Ness's permanent hitboxes, hitbox-lines and jackets are literally a complete description of Absa and her moves with her cloud. I never thought of that before and I've watched this video at least once before. That is absolutely sick how they took Ness's glitches and were able to insert them into an actual character's moveset. This makes me love RoA that much more! :3

  • @Jsolo13
    @Jsolo13 4 роки тому +5

    The Armada pictures are killing me omg

  • @ChildOfTheLie96
    @ChildOfTheLie96 2 роки тому +2

    The transition at 1:30 was brilliant

  • @MillionMileStudios
    @MillionMileStudios 4 роки тому +7

    My favorite melee glitch is the stock sprite swap or "stock glitch". Does nothing useful but get in your opponents head

  • @Dark_st4r22
    @Dark_st4r22 4 роки тому +8

    0:06 no it's 3 in morning and it's something I found to watch

  • @connorthornberg
    @connorthornberg 4 роки тому +4

    That roy tech got HBox sweating nervously
    Zain's roy is coming for you

  • @witz
    @witz 4 роки тому +1

    I dont know how u keep coming up with great melee video ideas but keep them coming

  • @zodiacsl125
    @zodiacsl125 3 роки тому +9

    I dont get it why am I watching all videos from this guy I ve never played or watched melee

  • @Tiltson
    @Tiltson 4 роки тому +2

    I like the transition at 2:56

  • @michaeljfan9720
    @michaeljfan9720 4 роки тому +3

    I've never played Melee, but I've always wanted to! I like these videos, because they're very informative!

    • @swank8508
      @swank8508 4 роки тому

      its never been easier, you don't even need a gamcube controller. If you have a computer, you can play online. check this server out for help discord.gg/twDYgzn

    • @CathuluGaming
      @CathuluGaming Рік тому +1

      it's gonna be hard to learn, the controls are incredibly precise

  • @jaschabull2365
    @jaschabull2365 4 роки тому +3

    Wait, so Ness can give himself thunder armour like frickin' swellow? Melee is just wild.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 4 роки тому +2

    Quite interesting! Thanks for uploading!

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial 4 роки тому +2

    It's always amazed me that many of these low tier characters have such ridiculous jank, and yet are still not good enough to play in tournaments. Melee is a crazy game.

  • @BloopTheNoop
    @BloopTheNoop 3 роки тому +2

    As a Roy main I thought I was so smart by b reversing his up b I was honestly shocked about how strong that hit was

  • @whathappenedsource
    @whathappenedsource 4 роки тому

    Editing just keeps getting better man

  • @deletedTestimony
    @deletedTestimony 4 роки тому +1

    Of course it's legal, Ness is a psychic. Invisible force is his specialty.

  • @roberthgamer6311
    @roberthgamer6311 4 роки тому +3

    "The jank HAS JANK!"
    OH MY, THATS WAY TO COMPLICATED FOR A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT!! HOW DID YOU FIGURE OUT THIS?!

  • @akimbocs
    @akimbocs 4 роки тому +3

    yooo! I met chrono (roy player vs snowy) at a tournament in san an and hes a dope dude, he mains roy too so its not even like hes playing roy just for the jank.

  • @qwopiretyu
    @qwopiretyu 4 роки тому +9

    "in this childresn party game?" finally a smash bros youtuber who gets it

  • @ichamsakkar4249
    @ichamsakkar4249 3 роки тому +2

    The thunder jacket stays ON during the Ness-Fox matchup

  • @TheRamblemanWhoSings
    @TheRamblemanWhoSings 4 роки тому +3

    4:15 Ness looks big with the yellow circle around him

  • @ChillavaKirby
    @ChillavaKirby 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you for actually explaining why Roy's up b does what it does

  • @64manxman
    @64manxman 4 роки тому +1

    So THAT'S why Roy's Up-B fucking annihilates Cruel Melee wireframes

  • @nathanmadox3364
    @nathanmadox3364 3 роки тому

    You're the only channel I willingly watch the same videos multiple times.

  • @JP-pn2lv
    @JP-pn2lv 4 роки тому

    I like these commentated videos, glad you're doing more of them :^)

  • @Enlaceeee
    @Enlaceeee 4 роки тому

    What a fucking good video, entertaining insightful and very well edited.
    Keep it up my man, you doing gods work

  • @nervantes
    @nervantes 4 роки тому

    Congratulations!!! I learned something new! Yay! Didn't know that before, but i do now. I'm so glad you were here to teach us this very very useful info. I don't know what i could've done without this knowledge! Thanx....
    Real shit, i loved it! I love this game!

  • @richi5291
    @richi5291 4 роки тому +17

    Too bad this glitches are mostly for low tier characters and you will likely never see some of this jank in an actual tournament or a serious match

  • @treflip063
    @treflip063 4 роки тому

    Couldn't stop laughing when you used the spike jacket lmao. That scream at the end 😂

  • @thatrandomorcaguy7511
    @thatrandomorcaguy7511 4 роки тому +1

    The thumbnail has the best glitch
    The names having more than 4 characters

  • @Ryan50Ryan
    @Ryan50Ryan 3 роки тому

    UA-cam: Hey, do you wanna see some videos you've already seen?
    Me: Which ones?
    UA-cam: AsumSaus.
    Me: ... Yeah, ok.

  • @ShaulaXNinja
    @ShaulaXNinja 4 роки тому +15

    0:13 "In this children's party game" Is rated T for teen.

    • @elementalarchenist9730
      @elementalarchenist9730 4 роки тому +2

      I don’t understand why this is rated T

    • @ShaulaXNinja
      @ShaulaXNinja 4 роки тому +14

      @@elementalarchenist9730 because E10 was not invented yet and games that were mildly violent back then got the T rating.

    • @Dazza-ut1hw
      @Dazza-ut1hw 4 роки тому +3

      @@ShaulaXNinja Because donkey Kong barrel blast couldn't possibly have been rated E for everyone

    • @meta04
      @meta04 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, E10+ wasn't a thing until 2005-between the releases of _Mario Party 6_ and _7_ . That doesn't quite explain why Brawl is T-rated though.

    • @ShaulaXNinja
      @ShaulaXNinja 4 роки тому +1

      @@meta04 Brawl actually had blood though minor.

  • @Wheelz_
    @Wheelz_ 4 роки тому

    Hell yeah an AsumSaus video

  • @Wesley-76
    @Wesley-76 2 роки тому +4

    Children's party game:
    -Has same rating as Final Fantasy games, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and Fire Emblem Three Houses
    Man, not having E10+ was weird.

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears1312 3 роки тому +5

    Ness’ jank should be the basis for a fighting game character.

  • @newpancakeman
    @newpancakeman 4 роки тому +2

    Loved the Doom sound effects

  • @Graham136
    @Graham136 2 роки тому +1

    Saw 4:50 and all I could think was "The JACKET stays ON during sex"

  • @DJTileTurnip
    @DJTileTurnip 4 роки тому +25

    2:35 I've never seen Melee Marth's Down B

    • @plank9456
      @plank9456 4 роки тому +5

      It's the same in every game

    • @musicbox7601
      @musicbox7601 4 роки тому +8

      you must not watch melee. It's used often against characters that have hitboxes on their recovery

    • @ChristianTheChicken
      @ChristianTheChicken 4 роки тому +1

      @@musicbox7601 All I've seen it used against is Falco's up-b from below ledge, and when M2K countered Armada's turnips during SSC GF's.

    • @mileshaf.1597
      @mileshaf.1597 4 роки тому

      @@ChristianTheChicken It's still used for countering fox and falco's up-b when they are trying to recover.

    • @ChristianTheChicken
      @ChristianTheChicken 4 роки тому

      @@mileshaf.1597 Yes, but it's only really good when they are below ledge, otherwise they can just recover high and you won't connect.

  • @RoninofCrimsonMaple
    @RoninofCrimsonMaple 2 роки тому +1

    They put more thought into Roys Up Special than the entire rest of his kit bro.

  • @sr.piedra3802
    @sr.piedra3802 4 роки тому +18

    5:44 Wait, how is Ryu's stage in Melee
    **That's illegal**

    • @ethanporter4760
      @ethanporter4760 4 роки тому

      What is this actually

    • @upgamerFranzo
      @upgamerFranzo 4 роки тому +1

      I think it's just a reskinning of Battlefield, there are mods that let you customise what stages look like.

  • @ZachFoxPhotography
    @ZachFoxPhotography 4 роки тому +1

    Great video. Informative and well-paced. 👍

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 4 роки тому +2

    Now I wanna draw Ness in a jacket

  • @ryank09
    @ryank09 4 роки тому +1

    I don’t even play melee and I absolutely adore your channel

  • @NNDS2007
    @NNDS2007 4 роки тому

    the sims music fits perfectly! great job

  • @Soosph0id
    @Soosph0id 3 роки тому

    2:19 YOOO THATS ACTUALLY MY LOCAL SCENE WHAT?! I LEGIT GO THERE FOR LOCALS!

  • @ThePi314Man
    @ThePi314Man 4 роки тому +1

    Roy's up b, due to the property of scaling ratios, is the best cheese in 1P mode. It just nukes everyone.