I'm glad to see independent reviews like this one, especially after a meaningfully long period of ownership. Like you, I bought the Lectric XPedition as my primary means of transport. In my case I chose an e-bike to replace a failed car. I can identify with many of your observations, I also had a controller/display failure after about 260 miles. No explanation just sudden failure. Lectric was good about replacing it but it did leave me wondering... And the problem of the kickstand bolt loosening, been there too. I chose to add a (I think I'm right here...) M6 split stainless steel lock washer which has permanently solved the problem. Having put 1500 miles on mine now ( in 7 months) I can tell you about a few more things you will soon notice. Your brake pads will soon begin to wear noticeably. In the Sierra Foothills where I live I probably do more aggressive braking than you do but I find that a set of resin pads will last about 500 miles. A set of sintered metal pads, about 700, and I'm still experimenting with semi metallic pads. The resins are the quietest, the sintered metal, the loudest. After 1500 miles I've also worn my rotors down to replacement thickness so I've ordered new ones, tomorrow's job! My factory rear tire has worn down to the cords showing so I replaced it about 50 miles ago. All this is to say that if you truly replace a car with one of these you need to plan some fairly serious maintenance on a very regular basis. I personally have no regrets about my decision to go e-bike rather than a car but not everyone will agree. The weather where I live is mild and rain isn't enough of a problem to deter me but in many places this wouldn't be true. I do face a lot of elevation change in my riding which results in more exercise than some would be comfortable with, a trip to the grocery is 12 miles round trip and involves over 1200 ft of hill climbing so definitely some getting used to. A note on motor noise, it is quite variable, and relates to the throttle setting as well as things like rear wheel spoke tightness. It comes from the high frequency AC put out by the controller causing anything loose to vibrate. Tightening things up helps alleviate it. That being said I have noticed that as the motor has aged it has gotten quieter. I wish you the best as you continue the e-bike adventure and look forward to more long term reviews. RS
Do you think would be good to do delivery i don't plan on replacing my car but i would use i to get around in my city in short distances. Dose this bike battery last i want to be able to deliver without worrying about making it home.
@phazxy3737 I certainly wouldn't hesitate, for what it's worth. I went 60 miles the other day using only PAS 2 in a hilly area and still had more than half of the bars. Granted, that's not necessarily half battery power, but I'm still impressed myself.
@@CozyLivingMachine 60! This would be perfect for me i live a mostly flat area and already do delivery on bike and never went 60 in one day. I can probably get more mileage im a light weight at 135 pounds i could easily zip around town and more.
Thanks for the in depth and personal use review. Lectric's Phoenix flagship showroom is 10 miles from our home. I recently visited for a look-see and what a line of ebike models and several with various accessories installed. There's a wall display of one of the models completely disassembled and laid out on the wall in a real life version of an exploded illustration of the bike's component parts. Fit and finish of all were well executed. Only model I'd have to think more than twice about would be their mountain ebike. That thing is big and looks intimidating to mount. I'd need like a rodeo bull pen to lower myself onto it and nod my head when ready for gate to be opened.
I'll have to check that showroom out! If that bigger XPeak bike is anything like the RadRover bike I had, which it seems similar to, it's extremely comfortable with those large tires and it's not very quick at all! It's jostles you much less on bumps and it takes quite a bit to get those tires moving at any appreciable pace. I suspect you'd really find it easy to ride! If they do test rides, I imagine you would really enjoy the ride even more than the smaller-looking bikes!
On my XPedition I took off the last seating pad and mounted a black milk crate, and do like my XL Cargo Panniers as well. I enjoyed watching your video very much.
I've just got mine today. I tried it out on one battery, (the second one was on charging) and my impression is the bike is not suitable for delivery work; batteries just don't hold enough energy for long delivery shifts, even on level 2. I'll test it out more next few days, but I think I'll have to resell it to someone because delivery work was and is my primary concern. I did 23 miles on level 2 on New York streets (some of them uphill) and the battery had only 1 bar by the end. This is not a good result at all. Also, the bike shakes a lot on each caveat on the road, I'll see the suspension fork in the morning, hopefully adjusting it will help somehow. For home use, it can be a good bike, though.
I've had to use red loctite on the kick stand and stem and so far so good. The kickstand has needed a second application but the stem has held up for 300 miles. Blue loctite didnt really hold for long.
I was considering the XP 3.0 and the Xpedition. I initially thought the Xpedition would be significantly bigger and longer, but after seeing yours, it looks just about right. I have a feeling it might handle bumps better than XP 3.0 when cruising on the road. Is that correct?
I would definitely say that this is a fantastic balance of storage vs size. There's PLENTY that can be hauled, including larger generators, solar panels, kids, full adults, etc. 😂 However, while I don't mind the bumpier ride of this, though I would upgrade the seat post to one with a little suspension if I was bothered, the XP has front suspension. That makes it a bit better over bumps. I had the 2.0 and I would take this over that, hands down, but that's something to know!
@@CozyLivingMachine I have had my Xpedition for almost 3 weeks, I have put over 500 miles on it. I ride it to work everyday, I have so much fun. I am so lucky that I picked Xpedition instead of XP. The area that I live is very hilly, I am glad that I chose the dual-battery. Now I don't drive my car much, because riding my Xpedition has so much fun, and I don't have to deal with traffic.
you can get into the weed with the pedal assist menu, and u can change it to a level 3 bike that will do 30 mph you can change the amount of pressure on the peddle to kick the assist on, there are chinesium bolt on kits that let u add turn signals, expect some battery loss.
Great review and lovely ride along! I have a beach cruiser, so a lot of pedaling for me lol. Also have a family 50s Schwinn that needs to be restored for future use. Curious, what and where has been your favorite bike ride/trail so far?
That sounds like it would be a fun project to restore!! And you know, I've never once sought out a trail, that's something that I'd never known people do until I got an ebike and started reading comments. Every now and then we'll find ourselves on a trail just by happenstance, like the Burke Gillman trail that goes around Seattle, that's a nice one. But the only one that I've ever cared about has been one that goes from Scottsdale to Tempe, AZ. Such a nice ride that has cacti and beautiful winter weather. Ahhh. It's so great. 🚲🌵☀️ What about you, do you seek them out?!
@@CozyLivingMachine I am compiling a list (list-maker here) of Places to Visit with Biking Trails. Surprisingly, along the southern coast here, you really have to search to find them.
This is such a great video showcasing these bikes. I was looking to get second bike for this summer with the wife and kiddos. But the dual battery doesn’t ship until mid July now so I might just bite the bullet and grab the single battery for now. Also LOVE the names haha I grew up on the wild thornberries
That’s awesome! Something you might also consider is purchasing the single battery unit and over the phone seeing if you can place an order for the additional battery prorated to the $300. I can’t say they’d do it for sure, but it’s absolutely worth asking to at least get out and riding sooner! They always have different deals, so I’d bet they could find a good solution. I’m glad the video was helpful!
If you get them on their frequent promotion, they are free. I've also seen them throw in extra batteries and things like that in place of some accessories.
I'm just warning everyone that this company with rip you off ..They don't stand behind anything they sell.. The accessories they sell aren't compatible with other accessories, but they don't tell you that till you try, then say sorry it's not refundable...
Come on, I have two of these and a few other e-bikes among my wife and kids and this motor is crazy loud compared to theirs. Even the other Lectric’s we have like the XP 3.0 is more quiet.
That center stand reminds me of the old mopeds and scooters. It's nice to make the bike stable while you load kids or supplies. My wife has issues with it too. Once used to it, it's the way to go
Are you in the area by chance?! We have a set of boards and the Orbitor that won't be used if you're looking for one! And I agree, I like the stand myself!
This is great and all But companies need to follow Suit with the offroad capabilities of the Tern orox. We can all agree tho that the tern orox could be made much cheaper I the $2000.00 range with a longer rack like the rad wagon 4. Also a bike like this that has 100 miles range should be capable of throttle only like the anokii A8 and similar Walkee long range bikes. I believe it only makes sense to sell folding 100 watt solar pannels with a efficient mppt charger included to keep charged while camping. Thiers over 1000 videos of people charging with pannels and mppt controller. If you haven't checked out the capabilites of the Tern Orox take the time to watch the videos off its offroad capabilities range and massive weight and storage capacities. I believe all ebike channels need to start speaking about this as it wouldn't take long to manifest the ultimate offroad all terrain adventure cargo bike for around $2000 - $3000 Every company needs to start making what the Tern Orax is capable of but better and cheaper! Lets go!!!! 😊
I'm glad to see independent reviews like this one, especially after a meaningfully long period of ownership. Like you, I bought the Lectric XPedition as my primary means of transport. In my case I chose an e-bike to replace a failed car. I can identify with many of your observations, I also had a controller/display failure after about 260 miles. No explanation just sudden failure. Lectric was good about replacing it but it did leave me wondering... And the problem of the kickstand bolt loosening, been there too. I chose to add a (I think I'm right here...) M6 split stainless steel lock washer which has permanently solved the problem. Having put 1500 miles on mine now ( in 7 months) I can tell you about a few more things you will soon notice. Your brake pads will soon begin to wear noticeably. In the Sierra Foothills where I live I probably do more aggressive braking than you do but I find that a set of resin pads will last about 500 miles. A set of sintered metal pads, about 700, and I'm still experimenting with semi metallic pads. The resins are the quietest, the sintered metal, the loudest. After 1500 miles I've also worn my rotors down to replacement thickness so I've ordered new ones, tomorrow's job! My factory rear tire has worn down to the cords showing so I replaced it about 50 miles ago. All this is to say that if you truly replace a car with one of these you need to plan some fairly serious maintenance on a very regular basis. I personally have no regrets about my decision to go e-bike rather than a car but not everyone will agree. The weather where I live is mild and rain isn't enough of a problem to deter me but in many places this wouldn't be true. I do face a lot of elevation change in my riding which results in more exercise than some would be comfortable with, a trip to the grocery is 12 miles round trip and involves over 1200 ft of hill climbing so definitely some getting used to. A note on motor noise, it is quite variable, and relates to the throttle setting as well as things like rear wheel spoke tightness. It comes from the high frequency AC put out by the controller causing anything loose to vibrate. Tightening things up helps alleviate it. That being said I have noticed that as the motor has aged it has gotten quieter.
I wish you the best as you continue the e-bike adventure and look forward to more long term reviews.
RS
Do you think would be good to do delivery i don't plan on replacing my car but i would use i to get around in my city in short distances.
Dose this bike battery last i want to be able to deliver without worrying about making it home.
@phazxy3737 I certainly wouldn't hesitate, for what it's worth. I went 60 miles the other day using only PAS 2 in a hilly area and still had more than half of the bars. Granted, that's not necessarily half battery power, but I'm still impressed myself.
@@CozyLivingMachine 60! This would be perfect for me i live a mostly flat area and already do delivery on bike and never went 60 in one day.
I can probably get more mileage im a light weight at 135 pounds i could easily zip around town and more.
Thanks for the in depth and personal use review. Lectric's Phoenix flagship showroom is 10 miles from our home. I recently visited for a look-see and what a line of ebike models and several with various accessories installed. There's a wall display of one of the models completely disassembled and laid out on the wall in a real life version of an exploded illustration of the bike's component parts. Fit and finish of all were well executed. Only model I'd have to think more than twice about would be their mountain ebike. That thing is big and looks intimidating to mount. I'd need like a rodeo bull pen to lower myself onto it and nod my head when ready for gate to be opened.
I'll have to check that showroom out! If that bigger XPeak bike is anything like the RadRover bike I had, which it seems similar to, it's extremely comfortable with those large tires and it's not very quick at all! It's jostles you much less on bumps and it takes quite a bit to get those tires moving at any appreciable pace. I suspect you'd really find it easy to ride! If they do test rides, I imagine you would really enjoy the ride even more than the smaller-looking bikes!
On my XPedition I took off the last seating pad and mounted a black milk crate, and do like my XL Cargo Panniers as well. I enjoyed watching your video very much.
We're considering the milk crate idea too! Or maybe one that can fold down the sides. ☺️
I've just got mine today. I tried it out on one battery, (the second one was on charging) and my impression is the bike is not suitable for delivery work; batteries just don't hold enough energy for long delivery shifts, even on level 2. I'll test it out more next few days, but I think I'll have to resell it to someone because delivery work was and is my primary concern. I did 23 miles on level 2 on New York streets (some of them uphill) and the battery had only 1 bar by the end. This is not a good result at all. Also, the bike shakes a lot on each caveat on the road, I'll see the suspension fork in the morning, hopefully adjusting it will help somehow.
For home use, it can be a good bike, though.
I've had to use red loctite on the kick stand and stem and so far so good. The kickstand has needed a second application but the stem has held up for 300 miles. Blue loctite didnt really hold for long.
Stuff we've been using:
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AirTag (place within bell): amzn.to/3JmTK1D
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I was considering the XP 3.0 and the Xpedition. I initially thought the Xpedition would be significantly bigger and longer, but after seeing yours, it looks just about right. I have a feeling it might handle bumps better than XP 3.0 when cruising on the road. Is that correct?
I would definitely say that this is a fantastic balance of storage vs size. There's PLENTY that can be hauled, including larger generators, solar panels, kids, full adults, etc. 😂 However, while I don't mind the bumpier ride of this, though I would upgrade the seat post to one with a little suspension if I was bothered, the XP has front suspension. That makes it a bit better over bumps. I had the 2.0 and I would take this over that, hands down, but that's something to know!
@@CozyLivingMachine I have had my Xpedition for almost 3 weeks, I have put over 500 miles on it. I ride it to work everyday, I have so much fun. I am so lucky that I picked Xpedition instead of XP. The area that I live is very hilly, I am glad that I chose the dual-battery. Now I don't drive my car much, because riding my Xpedition has so much fun, and I don't have to deal with traffic.
you can get into the weed with the pedal assist menu, and u can change it to a level 3 bike that will do 30 mph you can change the amount of pressure on the peddle to kick the assist on, there are chinesium bolt on kits that let u add turn signals, expect some battery loss.
Great review and lovely ride along! I have a beach cruiser, so a lot of pedaling for me lol. Also have a family 50s Schwinn that needs to be restored for future use.
Curious, what and where has been your favorite bike ride/trail so far?
That sounds like it would be a fun project to restore!! And you know, I've never once sought out a trail, that's something that I'd never known people do until I got an ebike and started reading comments. Every now and then we'll find ourselves on a trail just by happenstance, like the Burke Gillman trail that goes around Seattle, that's a nice one. But the only one that I've ever cared about has been one that goes from Scottsdale to Tempe, AZ. Such a nice ride that has cacti and beautiful winter weather. Ahhh. It's so great. 🚲🌵☀️ What about you, do you seek them out?!
@@CozyLivingMachine I am compiling a list (list-maker here) of Places to Visit with Biking Trails. Surprisingly, along the southern coast here, you really have to search to find them.
@GypsyBewytched we've yet to do it, but I would love to ride around the Santa Monica coast. That seems like the perfect ride to me!!
This is such a great video showcasing these bikes. I was looking to get second bike for this summer with the wife and kiddos. But the dual battery doesn’t ship until mid July now so I might just bite the bullet and grab the single battery for now. Also LOVE the names haha I grew up on the wild thornberries
That’s awesome! Something you might also consider is purchasing the single battery unit and over the phone seeing if you can place an order for the additional battery prorated to the $300. I can’t say they’d do it for sure, but it’s absolutely worth asking to at least get out and riding sooner! They always have different deals, so I’d bet they could find a good solution. I’m glad the video was helpful!
Thanks for the honest review.
I hope it helps!
How did you bring the handle bars up? It looks like something I would want to do.
Where do you get that extension? I want to put on ape hangers instead but don’t know what to look for. You say it’s fairly standard?
Thus guy here! amzn.to/3Z6XZXS
I would love to do ape hangers as well at some point, much more comfortable!
@@CozyLivingMachine thank you!!!
Just a stupid question, where did you make your video? It looks beautiful by the water.
The east side of Anacortes, Washington!
@@CozyLivingMachine I thought it might be Washington. I was stationed at Ft. Lewis back in my army days in the 70s.
I just purchased this bike at the lower price. Waiting for it to arrive 😊
You're going to love it!
@@dorothypolite1568 been waiting month for mine
Great review and excellent ride
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If i get one of these it gets the distressed look with spray paint and scratches and scuffs. will never look NEW again. Mad max it for street use.
The boards and orbital are free arent they?
If you get them on their frequent promotion, they are free. I've also seen them throw in extra batteries and things like that in place of some accessories.
All my vehicles have names including my Lectric XP.
Great review guys ! 🇺🇸👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🚴🏼🚴♀️
Thanks!! 😎🚲
It’s not dorky, it’s utilitarian.
I'm just warning everyone that this company with rip you off ..They don't stand behind anything they sell..
The accessories they sell aren't compatible with other accessories, but they don't tell you that till you try, then say sorry it's not refundable...
Paint it steam punk lol.
Come on, I have two of these and a few other e-bikes among my wife and kids and this motor is crazy loud compared to theirs. Even the other Lectric’s we have like the XP 3.0 is more quiet.
I'll buy a orbitor and running boards off ya!
That center stand reminds me of the old mopeds and scooters. It's nice to make the bike stable while you load kids or supplies. My wife has issues with it too. Once used to it, it's the way to go
Are you in the area by chance?! We have a set of boards and the Orbitor that won't be used if you're looking for one! And I agree, I like the stand myself!
@@CozyLivingMachine I'm not unfortunately. I'm in Chicago
The only tricky part is shipping them, because the Orbitor is so large! If you pay the shipping, they're all yours!
This is great and all But companies need to follow Suit with the offroad capabilities of the Tern orox. We can all agree tho that the tern orox could be made much cheaper I the $2000.00 range with a longer rack like the rad wagon 4. Also a bike like this that has 100 miles range should be capable of throttle only like the anokii A8 and similar Walkee long range bikes. I believe it only makes sense to sell folding 100 watt solar pannels with a efficient mppt charger included to keep charged while camping. Thiers over 1000 videos of people charging with pannels and mppt controller. If you haven't checked out the capabilites of the Tern Orox take the time to watch the videos off its offroad capabilities range and massive weight and storage capacities. I believe all ebike channels need to start speaking about this as it wouldn't take long to manifest the ultimate offroad all terrain adventure cargo bike for around $2000 - $3000 Every company needs to start making what the Tern Orax is capable of but better and cheaper! Lets go!!!! 😊
Did you see any alligators?
😂 The closest thing we have is a scary looking log