One of the rare (the only, in my experience) guitarist who directly teaches creativity. We all see the scales, modes, theory, practice routines and metronome uses but I haven’t seen anyone talk about this stuff. WK rulez
This is absolutely amazing advice. Every band member needs to know how the phrasing is gonna be approached even if they don't play Guitar specifically. Without form, music is just noise. It's similar to Frank Gambale's take on modes. This is why band members like John Bonham were so crucial, because he predicted what would be played next on _guitar_ and he made sure to lock it into place.
you don't need theory, but it helps to be able to count to four. which is basically what theory provides -- a shared reference point. excellent insights from Mr Krantz and wonderful playing - true and free!
This is really genius. Krantz' music is so intelligent and his articulation of it here follows this perfectly. It just makes so much sense... and it's still completely open as a system...
Krantz, like the best of the best, is a singular voice on the instrument. Absolutely brilliant playing, like Jeff Beck, or other masters, there is no other that sounds like him. This is, IMO, what true artistry can be defined as. So refreshingly unique every time I listen to him. I go to the music of Krantz to hear Krantz, to get his singluar vibe, like Wes, like Frisell, like Johnny Smith, Metheny, Scofield. Genius playing. Thanks for posting this great lesson.
This is priceless. Wayne Krantz is a genius, and his improv is so good, the chords and licks sounds really free and fresh. A lot to be learned here. 👍🎸
this is how i basically approach improvs - semi subconsciously - i get a good melodic flow and musical sense and it is always related to the form of the whatever i m improv on. gotta make a few videos on this topic myself, despite practically nobody watching :/ oh well.
just try playing « outside » notes once in a while while recording yourself : when you listen to it, it may not sound as off as you thought ! The audience likes to be surprised and to be roughed up a bit.
There is a lot of unbelievably good and unique guitarists.......and then there's Wayne! The most unique and special way of using the guitar! A whole other level.
Very valuable information here.... After reading the comments, it seems that many are disgruntled with this guy's attitude. You don't have to like someone to enjoy what they have to say or created. If they speak truth and their art moves you, that's all that matters. Don't make artists your heros. They will most certainly disappoint you. Just enjoy the music. Cheers.
👍 agreed 👍 I am here to comment about this video posted pretty much in the now (2024) not 20 years ago. There is much wisdom here. It merits careful study.
I've enjoyed Wayne's playing for a long time and have seen him play live a few times. I've never had any more than brief conversations with him but he was very friendly. I like him.
Great class, I'll be tuning in for more! I pretty much ditched learning songs after hearing Krantz and went improvisation. It's incredible how such simple concepts like a phrase allows a group of musician to not get lost.
Some of these comments are really surprising to me. I've been on Wayne's patreon since early '21, I've never gotten these negative impressions. He's actually very friendly and generous with his time answering anybody's questions. Maybe what some people are put off by is his honesty, he won't give an answer to make someone feel good, he'll tell the truth as he sees it. I think maybe some of you are overly sensitive and would probably have issues with 99% of the musicians in the world.
The only way I can see that happening is if it was a question that had already been answered multiple times, that's a frequent subject on there. No offense but I'd rather not take your word on that, he has been very kind and helpful to me on the patreon and in person.
@@moshwangles I don't think that WK thinks in terms of "in" or "out" in his own music / playing. He's coming at things intervallically with an emphasis on rhythm. I feel like it's kinda obvious, listening to his music.
That still sounds fairly reasonable to me. I remember him spending a lot of time answering your questions, you had questions quite frequently. For you to say he's not generous with his time or friendly seems unfair to me.
@@TysonGraf His whole thing is geared towards enabling the student to pursue their own creative interests and to hopefully be able ti answer their own questions through self questioning, trial/error and introspection. I used to be on his patreon and can say that it was one of best decisions I've made, he's super generous with what he delivers. Whenever he doesn't answer a given a question it's usually because it's ill thought out or too vague or answered in detail in his book. Good questions get good answers.
This is the first time I've heard someone share my perspective on the importance of song form in creative songwriting. When you listen to any tracks you love, notice how they are divided into sections. Many indie bands do this either intentionally or by accident, and it's definitely prevalent in prog rock, some funk, a lot of jazz, and classical music. Music theory books discuss song form and often label sections with letters like A and A prime. Personally, I think of parts in simpler terms: intro, outro, verse, chorus, and bridge. I view bridges as connectors within a song, with pre-choruses acting as repeated bridges before the chorus. A single bridge, sometimes called a middle 8, typically appears in the third part of a song before the final section. While there's no strict rule, having limitations can be beneficial, so it's important to establish your song form first.
I played with a drummer who didn’t understand what a phrase is!!! I’m like how you a drummer and not know what a phrase is? Then I realized that he doesn’t know what a song is!!!🤔
Did he say that sometimes the Grateful Dead Jam didn't work because the members weren't anchored on a more solid footing than Key? maybe that's subjective. The chaos is alluring.
@@saviormoney. LOL I played in a jam band for 20 years. Most Greatful Dead fans are braindead children. You should probably leave having opinions about music to people with ears and brains.
It does sound amazing. I’m looking at getting my first mic 🎤 for home recording, a Royer was suggested to me by an engineer at a large national music supplier. I’ve already got $2k tied up in my Fender Twin, was wondering if having a $1000 plus mic is necessary, or if there is a more practical equivalent. He said Sm57 and 121.
There’s so much egotistical bullshit on UA-cam, about how you must play guitar! What pleasure it is, too, instead, listen, to a true master, explain the art of the groove. And, like most brilliant individuals sharing a brilliant concept, it turns out to be really, really simple. One should be able to simply intuit where they are in the timeline. And, of course, the unspoken challenge is to keep that thing called harmonic rhythm in mind because when you’re coming up, for example, on the last measure of four or eight bar phrase, you can support the harmonic and rhythmic integrity, for example, a V7 chord, tone substitution of that chord. be completely silent for the last measure before the one circles out again and begin to play a half step lower, or a minor third higher. All sorts of things sound a lot better when they happen at the right time.
“ One should be able to intuit where they are in the timeline” - should be able to, for sure. But, in practice, it’s not that easy for most people. Some people naturally have a sense of this, others have to work at it. Time has been by far the most challenging element in guitar playing for the majority of students I have worked with. But, nobody ever talks about it. Or rarely, at least. Hundreds of thousands of videos about notes, scales, modes, etc, etc, sometimes a bit about time signatures, but almost nothing about the form, the time grid, phrasing combining the two - the art of playing in time.
It's very typical of Wayne to put down a lot of revered music, and try to make it seem like what he's doing is better. I heard him put down Jeff Becks album Blow by Blow.
Jerry himself would agree with Wayne. The jams didn’t always work. I saw the band 50 + from ‘83-‘94. I am a fan, but I can think of a handful of those shows that were really spectacular. Wayne’s absolutely correct.
@@bassplayer10they did have an album called “without a net” I always thought that was a perfect summary of how they played, and it’s pretty much what Wayne is referencing here (love them btw)
@@matthewbritt8498 without a net is perfect example of the band rollicking on sonic overdrive. I love the band too. I thoroughly enjoyed every single Grateful Dead show attended, except for the very last one. Cold and rainy. It was already overtime. I think Wayne is saying that if you’re a paying costumer, you should not get that kind of jamming.
Thought this was pretty good until I tried it. Now I think it's genius! So simple yet super efficient.
One of the rare (the only, in my experience) guitarist who directly teaches creativity. We all see the scales, modes, theory, practice routines and metronome uses but I haven’t seen anyone talk about this stuff. WK rulez
This is absolutely amazing advice. Every band member needs to know how the phrasing is gonna be approached even if they don't play Guitar specifically. Without form, music is just noise. It's similar to Frank Gambale's take on modes. This is why band members like John Bonham were so crucial, because he predicted what would be played next on _guitar_ and he made sure to lock it into place.
you don't need theory, but it helps to be able to count to four. which is basically what theory provides -- a shared reference point.
excellent insights from Mr Krantz and wonderful playing - true and free!
Wayne Krantz is such a musical guy, funky as hell
This is really genius. Krantz' music is so intelligent and his articulation of it here follows this perfectly. It just makes so much sense... and it's still completely open as a system...
Krantz, like the best of the best, is a singular voice on the instrument. Absolutely brilliant playing, like Jeff Beck, or other masters, there is no other that sounds like him. This is, IMO, what true artistry can be defined as. So refreshingly unique every time I listen to him. I go to the music of Krantz to hear Krantz, to get his singluar vibe, like Wes, like Frisell, like Johnny Smith, Metheny, Scofield. Genius playing. Thanks for posting this great lesson.
And he's got feet eXACTLy like Fred Flintstone!!!
This is priceless. Wayne Krantz is a genius, and his improv is so good, the chords and licks sounds really free and fresh. A lot to be learned here. 👍🎸
My favorite artist !
Genius guitar mind. He will blow you away. I’ve experienced it.
this is how i basically approach improvs - semi subconsciously - i get a good melodic flow and musical sense and it is always related to the form of the whatever i m improv on. gotta make a few videos on this topic myself, despite practically nobody watching :/
oh well.
Great concept - form creates freedom and clarity❤
Sometimes COMFORT is limiting.. Taking music to the unknown is adventurous..
Maybe the most intriguing small lesson I've ever listened to. I wish I could get better at creating tension, & breaking out of the pentatonic usuals
just try playing « outside » notes once in a while while recording yourself : when you listen to it, it may not sound as off as you thought ! The audience likes to be surprised and to be roughed up a bit.
Humble suggestion: Listen to (and copy/transcribe)music that has the features/ideas/qualities you want to incorporate into your playing/writing.
He used to have some audio downloads on his site that goes much deeper into some of these concepts. Really worth it
There is a lot of unbelievably good and unique guitarists.......and then there's Wayne! The most unique and special way of using the guitar! A whole other level.
A great way to glue together an act, wow. Thanks for the presentation 👏⭐
Been a while I’ve heard such soothing guitar playing. Someone should put this guy in a band
Brilliant!❤
A rare improviser who understands the correct balance between repetition and variation.
A rare improviser who understands the correct balance between repetition and changing the ending
Very valuable information here.... After reading the comments, it seems that many are disgruntled with this guy's attitude. You don't have to like someone to enjoy what they have to say or created. If they speak truth and their art moves you, that's all that matters. Don't make artists your heros. They will most certainly disappoint you. Just enjoy the music. Cheers.
👍 agreed 👍 I am here to comment about this video posted pretty much in the now (2024) not 20 years ago. There is much wisdom here. It merits careful study.
Thanks for the great lesson!
Thanks for sharing this Wayne !
Taking your shoes off also REALLY helps with improvisation. Definitely.
You can adjust the volume on the looper a bit easier too.
@@RobertFairweatherMusic Hahaha!
Great stuff! simple but perfect idea
Love this.
Thanks for the class!
Oh wow… genius…❤
good lesson!
There is just something so fucking magical about the way Wayne plays guitar.
is it all the wrong notes and bad technique?
There’s really not, but keep pretending that Berklee is somehow relevant and not just a pretentious cringe fest.
Great lesson, thank you!
Really great instruction!
I've enjoyed Wayne's playing for a long time and have seen him play live a few times. I've never had any more than brief conversations with him but he was very friendly. I like him.
1:25 Wonderful 🙌🏼
See this is just how i think when jamming.
So helpful to the writing processin general.
A lot of people went to see the Grateful Dead. Though I do agree with you.
very useful! thank a lot!!!!
Fascinating look into form and phrasing and the need to find it.
Great class, I'll be tuning in for more! I pretty much ditched learning songs after hearing Krantz and went improvisation. It's incredible how such simple concepts like a phrase allows a group of musician to not get lost.
Improv is like mastur
@@RobbenBanks153 well, I don't agree, its more like being able to find yourself in a piece of music quickly. Thats true improv for me ;)
Amazing guy ✌🏻
Good stuff!
Does this entire masterclass exist online somewhere?
I LOVE Wayne.
Fabulosoooooo
So helpful, simple but a life long perfection that never ends! Wayne is the man!
FREAKING BRILLIANT
My lifelong goal is to like every WK video till he gets a sliver of the attention he deserves! :)
Some of these comments are really surprising to me. I've been on Wayne's patreon since early '21, I've never gotten these negative impressions. He's actually very friendly and generous with his time answering anybody's questions. Maybe what some people are put off by is his honesty, he won't give an answer to make someone feel good, he'll tell the truth as he sees it. I think maybe some of you are overly sensitive and would probably have issues with 99% of the musicians in the world.
@@TysonGraf What did you mean by "playing out"?
The only way I can see that happening is if it was a question that had already been answered multiple times, that's a frequent subject on there. No offense but I'd rather not take your word on that, he has been very kind and helpful to me on the patreon and in person.
@@moshwangles I don't think that WK thinks in terms of "in" or "out" in his own music / playing. He's coming at things intervallically with an emphasis on rhythm. I feel like it's kinda obvious, listening to his music.
That still sounds fairly reasonable to me. I remember him spending a lot of time answering your questions, you had questions quite frequently. For you to say he's not generous with his time or friendly seems unfair to me.
@@TysonGraf His whole thing is geared towards enabling the student to pursue their own creative interests and to hopefully be able ti answer their own questions through self questioning, trial/error and introspection. I used to be on his patreon and can say that it was one of best decisions I've made, he's super generous with what he delivers. Whenever he doesn't answer a given a question it's usually because it's ill thought out or too vague or answered in detail in his book. Good questions get good answers.
"willlllMMMAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH" *plays extended voicings & eats Fruity Pebbles unironically*
check it out
Chaka-chaka, crash...
Very true.
Wayne is a beast. I bet a lot of normal people would hear this and think he isn’t that great of a musician lol.
-why he barefooted?
*adjusting pedals with big toe*
-good.
Where’s the rest of the video????
Stay tuned for more videos from this Masterclass in the next few weeks!
@@stagesmusicartsI for one am psyched, can't wait.
Yes!!!! Thank you!
@@stagesmusicarts Yes!!!! Thanks!!!
Genius! Love this Guy.
7min26s did he just star playing King Crimson's Red? 😁
Yeah he did.
George Winston played shoeless piano!
Great explanation! Even if I don't really hear it in his playing, like sometimes it's a bit sloppy and not really on time, but he got the idea
Wayne Krantz sloppy? You're a funny guy... 😂
um…ok dude, haha …I’m sure you’re shredding rings about him…
Krantz's got good enough time to play for Steely Dan
Makes a lot of sense .
Meanwhile, there is something about Universal and Tik-Tak-Toe. F em. Why do we need them when we have Wayne Krantz.
This is the first time I've heard someone share my perspective on the importance of song form in creative songwriting. When you listen to any tracks you love, notice how they are divided into sections. Many indie bands do this either intentionally or by accident, and it's definitely prevalent in prog rock, some funk, a lot of jazz, and classical music. Music theory books discuss song form and often label sections with letters like A and A prime. Personally, I think of parts in simpler terms: intro, outro, verse, chorus, and bridge. I view bridges as connectors within a song, with pre-choruses acting as repeated bridges before the chorus. A single bridge, sometimes called a middle 8, typically appears in the third part of a song before the final section. While there's no strict rule, having limitations can be beneficial, so it's important to establish your song form first.
so cool. so important. thanks wayne!
Great definition of phrasing.
the goat
Very helpful
GREAT STUFF
So easy and so true.
Good presentation. I can see my need to work on developing a stronger sense of time. Without it, phrasing would be a mess.
Wayne is king.
Love the reference to the Dead as most of their music was lost except to their tribe...
awesome
Great Musician!!
Don't think I've ever seen him use a compressor before.
I played with a drummer who didn’t understand what a phrase is!!! I’m like how you a drummer and not know what a phrase is? Then I realized that he doesn’t know what a song is!!!🤔
Great lesson.
Master class? Come on man.
Did he say that sometimes the Grateful Dead Jam didn't work because the members weren't anchored on a more solid footing than Key? maybe that's subjective. The chaos is alluring.
Strongly disagree.
@@saviormoney. LOL I played in a jam band for 20 years. Most Greatful Dead fans are braindead children. You should probably leave having opinions about music to people with ears and brains.
Rebel Rebel
Chaka-chaka, crash...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Chagu-chak. Baw! Gada-gad. Gang
i just like how the royer 121 is worth more than the amp hahah
😂Wayne used a house amp. We also have a commercial recording studio. Sounds good, no? ❤
It does sound amazing. I’m looking at getting my first mic 🎤 for home recording, a Royer was suggested to me by an engineer at a large national music supplier.
I’ve already got $2k tied up in my Fender Twin, was wondering if having a $1000 plus mic is necessary, or if there is a more practical equivalent. He said Sm57 and 121.
57 + royer is our go-to for recording guitars here. I'd just start with a 57 and go from there. Can't go wrong!!@@rdog421
🙏 thank you for sharing that and making these videos!
🫡🫡🫡
As far as I’m concerned, anyone who plays like Wayne can be as unpleasant as he wants.
There’s so much egotistical bullshit on UA-cam, about how you must play guitar! What pleasure it is, too, instead, listen, to a true master, explain the art of the groove. And, like most brilliant individuals sharing a brilliant concept, it turns out to be really, really simple. One should be able to simply intuit where they are in the timeline. And, of course, the unspoken challenge is to keep that thing called harmonic rhythm in mind because when you’re coming up, for example, on the last measure of four or eight bar phrase, you can support the harmonic and rhythmic integrity, for example, a V7 chord, tone substitution of that chord. be completely silent for the last measure before the one circles out again and begin to play a half step lower, or a minor third higher. All sorts of things sound a lot better when they happen at the right time.
“ One should be able to intuit where they are in the timeline” - should be able to, for sure. But, in practice, it’s not that easy for most people. Some people naturally have a sense of this, others have to work at it. Time has been by far the most challenging element in guitar playing for the majority of students I have worked with. But, nobody ever talks about it. Or rarely, at least. Hundreds of thousands of videos about notes, scales, modes, etc, etc, sometimes a bit about time signatures, but almost nothing about the form, the time grid, phrasing combining the two - the art of playing in time.
10:50 almost looked like a Jim Breuer deepfake
chaka chaka crash
Step 1: Remove Socks
LMOA!!!!!!!! I hope this was a free class.😁😁😁😁 Because if you paid one penny for this you got ripped off.
lmao is this guy for real
Only a fool would laugh at this. It’s everything in music that people like you are missing. Straight over your head, lmao.
Wanye Kest
He is thinking like a drummer too
not just about guitar parts...
Yo, like, check it out
🤙🏻
why did he take his shoes off
For more precise pedal control, I guess
so you can smell it...
i do it too - so i can pedal my socks off
You can't turn up the gain on a looper pedal with shoes on man. 😂
He wanted to
Put you`re shoes back on!
WTF
Playing is not as good as he talk.
Savage 😂
@@mathuwhycough6591if you honestly think this is good in ANY way, you are completely lost. And pathetic 😂
Ehh
Was good up until using Jerry/Phil as the example of the wrong way of jamming lol
Yeah. That was weird to punch down on one of the most well liked jam bands of all time.
It's very typical of Wayne to put down a lot of revered music, and try to make it seem like what he's doing is better. I heard him put down Jeff Becks album Blow by Blow.
Jerry himself would agree with Wayne. The jams didn’t always work. I saw the band 50 + from ‘83-‘94. I am a fan, but I can think of a handful of those shows that were really spectacular.
Wayne’s absolutely correct.
@@bassplayer10they did have an album called “without a net” I always thought that was a perfect summary of how they played, and it’s pretty much what Wayne is referencing here (love them btw)
@@matthewbritt8498 without a net is perfect example of the band rollicking on sonic overdrive. I love the band too. I thoroughly enjoyed every single Grateful Dead show attended, except for the very last one. Cold and rainy. It was already overtime. I think Wayne is saying that if you’re a paying costumer, you should not get that kind of jamming.