John Tay - [Alternate] Big Arms (S&K) (YM2612 + SN76489)
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- big arms? this one has big fingers
Song name: [Alternate] Big Arms (S&K) (YM2612 + SN76489)
Written and arranged by John Tay;
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I like how all the other thumbnails have Sonic 1 frame away from getting hurt or some other happenings and then there's this one which just looks like the Great Eggman Robo wants your liver.
Damm this really fits eggman
Why thank you In fact next time a take over the world (successfully) I'll make sure to not torture you
@@ivo_robotnik thanks?
@@ivo_robotnikI recommend to use this while taking over the world
@@DominicDrage only if I specifically see a blue hedgehog who can go faster than 150 Mph
@@ivo_robotnikOh ok
I love how this song chooses to go down the RPG Orchestra path rather than rock n roll, which probably makes it sound menacing in a different but cool way nonetheless. The default Big Arms theme is menacing and tense, while this one is menacing but still has a glimmer of hope in the second half of the song. Love this stuff
This is it. The sonic 3 & Knuckles cartridge is completed
This works perfectly as a "final" boss track, as like you said it's not really the end. I think it just has that feeling since it avoids the more strong chords that Alt Doomsday uses (especially the V-i).
Showing how great and destructive is his weapons (big arms and Great EggRobo)
the vs brevon phase 1 influence in this track is very noticeable, great work!
"If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight!!!"
Sun Tzu said that...and I'd say he knows a *little* more about fighting than *you* do, pal - because he invented it, and then he perfected it so that *no man* could best him in the ring of honor!
Then he used his fight money to buy *two* of every animal on Earth, and then he herded them onto a boat, AND THEN HE BEAT THE *CRAP* OUT OF EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!
...and from that day forward, any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a *zoo!* Unless it's a *farm!*
Sorry, you've just gotta love Soldier TF2. This music reminds me of him.
finally someone who understands how well marching music works better for Eggman than random hype rock
I really love this orchestral feel that this song has :)
Also
Srb2 boss leitmotif at 2:17
And the PSG's are ...
wait what are they even doing lmao.
spinning rapidly in high pitches
(I'd want to say they're arpeggiating but idk)
spazzing out
The march of the Death Egg
This sounds like something straight out of Final Fantasy and I love it!!! Also gives off a similar vibe to gallery from Deltarune.
i said the same thing. very strong jrpg vibes from this song
Wow, there might not be a single song left open if John Tay keeps this up.
Casually remixes every song in existence
*This is a certified big banger*
I feel like the base Big Arms theme fits the original boss of Sonic 3, while this perfectly fits the final boss of Sonic and Knuckles. It perfectly encapsulates the slow, menacing movements of Eggman's giant mech thingy
John tay always delivers man
i got a lot of sky sanctuary vibes with this one
Awesome work. I feel very strong combined Rocket Knight Adventures and Steel Empire vibes (and feeling like I'm hearing Steel Empire instruments).
This right here, is some good tunes.
good job, John Tay, I've been listening to all the Alternatives, and I must say, they are AMAZING!
If you end up in music school, I wouldn't be surprised if you end up teaching the teachers with the kind of amazing music you do lol
It's actually quite fitting that you went down the orchestral route for this, since the final boss of Sonic & Knuckles is a bigger version of the Death Egg Robot from Sonic 2, which also had an orchestral-sounding theme. Might not feel like a true final boss, but it seems that was intentional anyway - and besides, that's what the Doomsday theme is for.
By that logic, this probably fits moreso for Mecha Sonic's first phase in Knuckles's storyline - grand and menacing enough to let you know that you're approaching the end, but not quite getting to that real climactic feeling, which lets you know that something more dangerous is on the horizon.
Just wondering, will Super Mecha Sonic get his own bespoke theme, or do you envision him still reusing the Doomsday theme from this alternative soundtrack?
i didn't think much about knuckles i'll be real
I think it would be cool if mecha sonic had his own set of themes, for both phases.
Very Heraldic. Which gives it an almost Rocket Knights Adventures feel, It's very good.
Bro you’re uploading straight fire. Keep it up.
when dark cures are prepared to batle over cures
I’m gonna be honest, this song is a downright banger
And for some reason, the drum pattern threw me back to Freedom Planets Final Boss 1.
Epic tho ❤
Impressive stuff. It sounds like a gritty JRPG rather than a sonic game, but it's amazing.
This is giving me some Tatsuyuki Maeda vibes, specifically his work on Golden Axe III.
The first 14 seconds sound like the theme that plays before you fight Vile in Mega Man X
this boss is silly as hell, but you do your best to portray it as the exact opposite, like Eggman and his Big Arms are an actual threat
takes the skill of a god to make Eggman sound like someone you take seriously at first
Put this with the mod Eggman's Revenge in S3AIR and you've got it perfect.
sounds straight outta final fantasy! great work once again.
I was so dissapointed that this was called the giant death egg robot (or something) in sonic origins. I would’ve called it the Egg Colossus.
I'd like to say my opinion on another of your sweet sweet tunes:
I've read your commentaries in video about difference in tone and genre between OG and Alternative Big Arms, and I wanted to say:
Both are awesome tracks, and it's great to hear some more orchestrated tunes in Sonic with that bombastic style of yours, but the final boss of S&K has that chasing Eggman sequence, and it doesn't mesh well with your track. But while S3 Final Boss isn't that grand, your Alternative version fits very well!!
Just look at it this way: Final frontier. Death Egg is heading right into dark abyss of clouds. Eggman is ready to start overtaking the planet, but you're still meddling with his plans. And no colossal robot nearby, so he's ready to fight with everything he's got. Epic showdown at the DE Platform is about to begin...
i actually would say the opposite and say that this actually works better with s&k, especially with the eggman chase, it's the feeling of "getting there but not quite", it's supposed to feel somewhat underwhelming. s3 is better off having the og, though i guess self-interpretations will be self-interpretations at the end of the day
@@johntayjinf It would simply have a custom theme for Mecha Sonic vs knuckles in their boss battle in Sky sanctuary
@@johntayjinfOptions be options! And options we shall provide!
@@Josue-fp1ylfunny thing: I tried to play Knux vs Mecha Knuckles Final bossfight with John Tay's Doomsday Alternate track... And it FREAKIN' FITS RIGHT DOWN TO THE BEAT. As if it was made in rhythm of the Mecha, Sonic's attacks. It goes together so cool, it isn't even funny
Something I feel like I should bring up: The message this theme conveys kinda poses a problem with Tails because well . . . he doesn't go to Doomsday Zone.
SRB2 mentioned /J
This feels grand
I like how mountainous this theme sounds
oh i ADORE this!!! it fits the giant death egg robot SO much more!!!! the only thing i think would feel kind of off is the chase segment.... the original Big Arms works so well for that part in particular...
This is a cooler track than the original. The original track was intimidating & is still a classic, but this track blows the original out of the water with the intimidation part. It seems more like the kind of song you'd hear on your way to the fight like you're getting closer to the conclusion of the story.
Bro casually uploads another banger
The menacing Giant Eggman Robo!
Great RPG vibes are oozing out of this theme, but I believe this theme serves the Egg-Ladybug-looking bot more than Big Arms hands down.
This gives me some serious Gleylancer vibes. Like it's very similar in style to the final boss of Gleylancer. Probably just a coincidence though.
it's very much intentional
I love playing my drums to your songs
These boss themes just fit like a glove.
Banger
Giant egg robo & big arms deserve their own separate themes
FINALLY THE TIME HAS COME
I love this so much
Nicely Done. UwU
I wondered if there will be a Vs. Super Mecha Sonic Mk.2 Theme?
love this! reminds me of game boy donkey kong at points (especially near the end)
10/10 banger for sure!
John Tay
much appreciated
So true bestie
you make a fair point
John Tay
John Tay
I'd presume SSZ as Knuckles would use the vanilla Final boss and Doomsday themes? If not, perhaps it'd use this throughout?
i honestly didn't put too much thought about knuckles aside from lava reef and hidden palace but yeah it can work both ways
The instruments sound a lot like the ones from the final boss of Gleylancer
Man I wish I could fund your *_pans_* to go to music school.
1:44 this is the part where you chase down eggman.
I didn't know the E.G.G. Station Robot had a Second Phase /j
SCREW IT im doing a playthrough of sonic 3 & k with the alt soundtrack
I mean, there won't be any sound effects until I have the gear to mod S3AIR, but what are you gonna do? I usually consider music well enough.
Now, how do we mod John’s tracks into S3&K proper?
Sonic 3 if it was designed by Treasure
Damn... They should have chose YOU for Sonic Origins' OST since they couldn't reuse some of the original songs.
great!!!
Imagine this in place of Astebros' final boss tho
Got that Sparkster sound…
Iiii heard that musical sting from Sonic Robo Blast 2, you cant fool me!
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Love this gives vibes of the doom ship but if you put eggman on it
I just noticed, in the bottom right, it says panning instead of planning
Nice Sega Genesis tune!😄🤩😎👌
ive always called this boss "the great emerald robot" not sure why, i think someone just said it to me once and it took it from there, but does this boss actually have a name? or is it big arms again
It's called "Kyodai Egg Robo"
holy shit
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Good 😮
Sounds like a riff taken from Alienstorm at 2:10?
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A very nice original flavor song for Eggman- but compared to most of your Retakes, I think this one really falls flat in capturing the spirit that defined the original Big Arms / Final Boss composition from S3&K.
I think this song really ends up getting lost in reflecting the character of Eggman and his more overt goofiness then the knife-edge, duel-like atmosphere the original Big Arms really embodied.
An extremely good composition on it's lonesome that falls flat in the context of the song its meant to be a retake of, at least so I think.
Sounds like Golden Axe 3
This sound like something from metroid or star fox
The first 00:14 seconds
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Menacing... But cool!
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