i love how this guy has perfect timing on vids when i needed stahta build video posted when i was wondering eclipse roar vs xata video posted 3 hours ago amazing
Cheers for the in depth descriptions for every ability and best uses Moug, would you consider doing a video specifically on all the different damage multipliers and how to go about modding different weapon types?
I always overlooked Eclipse, but I love Glaives so I might just have to give it a shot. You're also the reason I'm currently crafting a Stahlta, so that'll benefit from it as well. Anyways, thanks as always for bestowing us with knowledge on things that make absolutely no sense without an explanation lol
Very recently watched your Stahlta video guide and left a comment asking how you are getting those absolute huge damage numbers. I did not realize that eclipse is better for multi CO instead of roar. I even switched your build a little bit to use HM because I was getting more out of that than not using HM. (Now I know why). Thank you for this video I am going to switch to eclipse and use what has quickly become my new favorite weapon in Warframe.
Hey! Recently I realized I've been explaining to a lot of people on when to use Roar, Eclipse, and Xata's Whisper and AdditiveCO/MultiCO (for general gun platform gameplay with the exception of Roar), so I've decided to make some copy-pasteable summaries of when to use each one (as well as a use case for AdditiveCO). I believe I'm on the mark here and considering I don't see much people talk about this, I'd figure your input would be the best since I've based most of my information on this video, Kengineer's Roar vs Eclipse video, and information found on the wiki. When to Use Roar, Eclipse, and Xata's Whisper: Roar (Faction Multiplier), Use When: Abusing DoT Damage (Faction Double Dipping), Buff Ability Damage, Support Ability without Augment; Eclipse (Final Multiplier w/ CO Synergy), Use When: You use a lot of Multiplicative CO Weapons with/without Faction Multiplier, Cheaper Buff to Cast (need augment to spread it though), Secondary Damage Reduction buff, Double Dipping Damage on Glaive type weapons/Exodia Contagion; Xata's Whisper (Second Hit that uses Weapon's Total Damage), Use When: MultiCO/AdditiveCO WITH Faction Multiplier, Bubble Synergies (can become anti synergy so be careful); Regarding Additive CO Weapons: Use either Roar or Eclipse, they are functionally the same but Roar will buff your DoTs and Abilities, Consider Xata's Whisper if you have a Faction Mod/Other source of faction multiplier Thanks and much love! Your videos are very informative and made me reconsider Eclipse (considering I love the Battacor like you do with the Stahlta xd).
i like nourish cause u get more energy to spam stuff, the add on viral damage, and added survivability, which all of that can be applied to ally near you
Roar still a "win" since: - You can share with team - Newbie friendly - Buff all kind of damage (direct hit, DOT, ability damage/strength??? and emotional damage for your opponents, better with racist mods). - Basically, free racist mod and scale with racist mod 🗿 - No skills? No problemo - Never gets old Edit: On Specific builds then you already saw how they perform on his vid. Roar is still the best on overall uses but it still feels a bit off when you doing raw damage or single targeting. Doesnt mean it's shjt. If you hate faction mods then roar itself is like a faction mod.
I disagree with u Kringe… it all depends on the build your goin for. U running a dot build? Roar is your best friend, u wanna nuke tanky demolisher units in disruption? Xatas whisper is your go to. U wanna have insane raw dmg on your guns for eildolon hunting and other things? Eclipse is your best friend for that. Each dmg buff is unique and meant for different things. Using roar for everything would not be the efficient choice more of a lazy one and u would be reducing your dmg drastically depending on the content your playing.
Gr8 work, Ty for quality content fixing that bigger 'jupiters' who only count $ from clickbaits and shitty informations cuz ppl dont need/want verify cuz 'on video was like that'.
Just a heads up, roar can be more effective in some frames or abilities that have damage even if it dont scale with power, on MHBlacky revenant video, he pointed that roar is affecting reave and causing it to do more damage even if the skill is % based, taking that in acount, i can confirm it also works as multiplier for Doom damage, both skills that do % based not direct damage.
Roar is damage buff for everything. Eclipse is specifically weapon damage. If you want weapon damage Eclipse is the way to go. If you want DoT or ability damage go roar.
Thank you for another banger. Im learning so much daily from you bro. However at the start you say youll post a short list of guns with multiplicative CO, am i blind or is it not listed 😢.
thanks for vid 1) It would be great if you showed what operator buffs you use. i think its sling strength but not sure, since it too fast.... 2) how do u use energy conversion on reservoirs and eclipse/roar at the same time 3:16 ?
There is an issue with xata where when epitaph procs xata you cant use corufell after 2 or so hits as the projectile dissapears into the void literally...Theres no damage like no number as if i missed them while being 2m in front
Thank you for all the info, copied the Max damage no firerate Build from your vid, using it with gauss and arcane acceleration and i was thinking of replacing his 3rd, now I might go for eclipse instead of thermal sunder. One question tho, do you tap it or hold it to get the maximum bonus? Thank you for your videos and the infos in them😊
What would be my best choice if i were to go for bo incarnon with condition overload + influence + constant blast proc? Im assuming eclipse would be better since im not going for dot as mentioned in the video? 😮
Mr. Moug, im a returning glaive prime glazer and I found that it is no longer king, can i get a quick video about the cerata and/or xoris ? I trust you the most
I know I should probably out this common on your Stahlta vid but oh well, for whatever reason I can’t really get it to be good. I do have a riven but I’m re-rolling it right now and using the Max Dmg-FR builds and it doesn’t look like how it does in the vid using the primary or secondary mode. I mean I was trying it in low level steel path without buff but I thought it should be able to preform better then it did
Don't know if you will still answer but that riven mod you have on Stahlta what does it provide? What i mean with that is what does it provide crit chance, crit dmg, or something else.
@WispGraxx thanks for answering this quick. Now I gotta hope I can get 1 myself with crit chance/dmg. Ofc I first gotta look into riven mods bcs I don't own one and don't know how they work so.
Eclipse is good on wisp bc of DR buff makes wisp actuall tank Or specific situations like PT or Tridolons Roar most of time for any abbilty kind of frame Xata for single target like distruption or cascade
what do you recommend for corrosive regulator dps mesa build? currently i have eclipse with 2 green shards for +4 corrosive stacks max for armor stripping
i am a newbie and i dont have knowledge about mods.i was searching wisp builds and i found your channel. i really liked your explanations. can you do a kuva bramma build with wisp or any suggestions about it? ( i watch a few of your videos. if u did already i didnt know)
So, I wanna ask something, which of these would work best with the innate 700% stealth multiplier that frames that can go invisible get? Do you have advice on what would be best there?
Moug, why roar + mult CO is not the same as eclipse + mult CO in not DOT dmg? Isnt mult CO just straight up different final multiplier like eclipse? I rewatched that part about roar/eclipse few times, but I guess my english isnt good enough, or I am just too stupid to understand where is the difference
Btw kengineer in his 3 months old video (I mention that, because maybe I missed some patch) said after testing that eclipse buff is not multiplying additive gun CO part of damage, which would mean that on additive gun CO roar is a lot better, especially without bane in build
Giving this objetive: killing profit taker, using Chroma and staltha (a gun with multiplicative CO), the way to go is having a The Bane Mod and subsube Eclipse? But if i want to use Chroma + Zenith (aditive CO) the way to do it is with roar?
@@WispGraxx I am dumb, i just realized that. Thanks. Just another question. The Sarin Sobek Acid Shells combo. The gun is hitscan, so we can assume is additive CO (i could not find this info on the sikia nor the googlesheet). In this case Bane mod + Roar is the way to go for max hell?
I can be of help. If you have reliable armor strip from anything other than your weapon (or latron incarnon strip) and your weapon benefits a ton from not wasting nod slots on elemental damage nourish is good to cover the viral procs. Also if your frame uses abilities often and needs the extra energy to spam shield gateing nourish is useful.
Hey man I have a serious question that has me so confused. I’ve seen you many times recommend Gun CO on AOE weapons. I tested the dmg out and it still doesn’t boost the AOE which makes me confused on why you use it on your guns? Do you rly have it just for the direct impact of the AOE shot and ignore that the AOE itself isn’t boosted? Or am I doing something wrong in my testing?
@@lerosallyn9279 yes on the stahlta i have it for the direct impact and not the AoE. Except for the ogris. Ogris simply benefits too much from status chance so its always worth to go galvanized aptitude
@@lerosallyn9279 For single target it's way better tho so it just depends on the situation lol, like for demo in disruption you will use shotgun mode because it just deals way more damage to them
If the enemies are dying faster then waiting for dot to proc doesn't it mean roar is loosing on the double dip dot dmg and only boosting the initial shot's dmg? Which makes it kinda like eclipse. Or am i getting something wrong?
It depends on the build your goin for honestly if it’s primarily a weapons platform warframe and not a caster u don’t rlly needs strength if your guns are the main source of dmg
@@ShinySean69 still sad that it was changed to damage + 100 * multiplier * power strength up to 5m cap. The 5m cap was always there but it used to always scale with ability power, but now it won't if your hitting hard enough.
Hey moag. Was wondering, I have a slash, cc and neg puncture. Is this a suitable riven to use on the stahlta? Only starting using it after watching your vids
Bro everytime u shoot there are like 100 numbers on the screen. How are you pinpointing the highest number every time with such ease in like a millisecond lol
Condition Overload (CO) is a melee mod that increases your damage depending on the number of status effects on an enemy. The Aptitude mods do this for your guns, so people call them CO or GunCO. Hitscan weapons apply this buff additively, but other weapons can apply it either additively or multiplicatively. The latter is a much larger damage boost, and the only way to know which one applies to your gun is to either test it yourself or check Moug's Google doc listing them all. The major difference when building is that you always want to use faction mods on additive CO guns, while on multiplicative guns you can use either faction mods or just a regular Serration
Posted it on the last community post soo If you see it here you don't need to answer the other one A question for you since this is your most recent post. Soo I got to thinking after seeing your video I only built wisp once and didn't really use her that much soo I tried using her on a sp disruption the Sanctum one on Deimos and surviving with shield gating is impossible for me because of how little energy I get at the start soo I am thinking of doing the health tanking and I just want to know what level can I survive with health tanking can I take it to longer missions(survival, interception and disruption) and let's say stay for like 2H Because building stacks with stahalta or any weapon with primary deadhead is HARD Because again low energy
You can easily go up to level 800 with health tanking wisp without ever using your 2. After that you really need to react with using 2 often or blinding a large area with 3
@@WispGraxx Nice soo it's going to be health tanking wisp then after level 1000+ It's second ability since I have hush on most of my wisp weapons I won't cancel right away and it'll be good Oh and for the ppl who are reading this and don't know second ability if you look right at the ground it will continue flying there in one place and you can kill them easier there
How is Revenant with Eclipse? I am focusing on pure weapon dmg and no bane mods. Currently using Roar at 105%. I have all 3 of them in Helminth, just in case. Oh and i am using Torid so i am interested how Xata whispers works on beam weapons. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Multiple CO vs. Additive CO, will you cover EVERY weapon that has built in CO? This would be very interesting topic because the game doesn't tell you which weapon has it Edit: or can you teach us how to test this ourself??
Hello, I am a Warframe player that takes months of breaks and not have time to grind. Recently I have done a lot, I was MR 6 and I am now MR 12, about to be MR 13. My question is, how do you get those crystals on the character screen? You have 2 red and 3 blue crystals in a V shape. I do not know what they are, is it possible you could explain it ? Thank you 🤙
I believe you’re referring to the archon shards. These are an end-game resource. I think they might be quest/ level locked (not quite sure sorry). But after that point you can do an “archon hunt” mission once weekly (it’s a 3 mission series like the sortie) that will guarantee a predetermined color one. The color rotates weekly. Also when you unlock the Sactum Anotomica on Deimos you will be able to have a chance to earn them (up to 5 possible a week) through another end game activity called “netracells”
They are Archon Shards found from doing archon hunts which are just higher level sorties. They are used by getting a helminth upgrade from deimos and can increase your strength and efficiency and orb pickups. I suggest you search 'Warframe Archon Shards' for guides.
Archon shards you can add yo certain base values i.e. ability strength, ability duration, armor, energy max etc you acquire shards from weekly archon hunts, netracells and deep archimedia. In order to use acquired shards you must install the archon segment available from son in the necralisk i believe
Finally, my opinion has arrived
Datto viewer?
bro think hes datto
Holy fuck, I was literally JUST looking for this before I went to sleep, just woke up and there is a video from you
Same lmao. The vid I saw on this topic last night was from before the Eclipse rework though so I'm glad to find an updated one from Moug himself
4:38 to 6:32 is a skip. I wasted time for no reason and it was too late for me to go ahead and edit it. Also 12:14 is TL;DR
i love how this guy has perfect timing on vids when i needed stahta build video posted when i was wondering eclipse roar vs xata video posted 3 hours ago amazing
Babe wake up, new Moug video
Cheers for the in depth descriptions for every ability and best uses Moug, would you consider doing a video specifically on all the different damage multipliers and how to go about modding different weapon types?
Already have one however its old. I might redo it and unlist old one
@@WispGraxx Cheers
"This is just the Sthalta being broken" 🗿
@@Wonback based Mourg
Is no one talking about the 138 forma wisp 😭🙏🏼
I always overlooked Eclipse, but I love Glaives so I might just have to give it a shot. You're also the reason I'm currently crafting a Stahlta, so that'll benefit from it as well.
Anyways, thanks as always for bestowing us with knowledge on things that make absolutely no sense without an explanation lol
Brother if you love Glaives, you MUST try Chroma..
It's the most fun I've had in Warframe which says a lot because there's a lot of fun builds.
Got it so use roar because im too lazy to mod faction damage. Great explaining btw thank you
i learn more from this dude than fromanybody
Very recently watched your Stahlta video guide and left a comment asking how you are getting those absolute huge damage numbers. I did not realize that eclipse is better for multi CO instead of roar. I even switched your build a little bit to use HM because I was getting more out of that than not using HM. (Now I know why). Thank you for this video I am going to switch to eclipse and use what has quickly become my new favorite weapon in Warframe.
thanks bro this clarified buffs a lot
Hey! Recently I realized I've been explaining to a lot of people on when to use Roar, Eclipse, and Xata's Whisper and AdditiveCO/MultiCO (for general gun platform gameplay with the exception of Roar), so I've decided to make some copy-pasteable summaries of when to use each one (as well as a use case for AdditiveCO).
I believe I'm on the mark here and considering I don't see much people talk about this, I'd figure your input would be the best since I've based most of my information on this video, Kengineer's Roar vs Eclipse video, and information found on the wiki.
When to Use Roar, Eclipse, and Xata's Whisper:
Roar (Faction Multiplier), Use When: Abusing DoT Damage (Faction Double Dipping), Buff Ability Damage, Support Ability without Augment;
Eclipse (Final Multiplier w/ CO Synergy), Use When: You use a lot of Multiplicative CO Weapons with/without Faction Multiplier, Cheaper Buff to Cast (need augment to spread it though), Secondary Damage Reduction buff, Double Dipping Damage on Glaive type weapons/Exodia Contagion;
Xata's Whisper (Second Hit that uses Weapon's Total Damage), Use When: MultiCO/AdditiveCO WITH Faction Multiplier, Bubble Synergies (can become anti synergy so be careful);
Regarding Additive CO Weapons: Use either Roar or Eclipse, they are functionally the same but Roar will buff your DoTs and Abilities, Consider Xata's Whisper if you have a Faction Mod/Other source of faction multiplier
Thanks and much love! Your videos are very informative and made me reconsider Eclipse (considering I love the Battacor like you do with the Stahlta xd).
if i use phenmor without a bane mod, should i use roar or xata? considering the 5th evolution is multiplicative.
What is CO i don't understand?🤔
@@MonkeyDLuffy-vs7eg condition overload
@@hazeychambers7516 and what's the difference between additive and multiplicative CO. Also can you give some weapon examples to explain.
@@MonkeyDLuffy-vs7eg I know it's been a month but there's a CO spreadsheet literally in the description
Ay thx bro much love nice to see u read my comment
i like nourish cause u get more energy to spam stuff, the add on viral damage, and added survivability, which all of that can be applied to ally near you
I needed this, videos on this were so outdated.
Roar still a "win" since:
- You can share with team
- Newbie friendly
- Buff all kind of damage (direct hit, DOT, ability damage/strength??? and emotional damage for your opponents, better with racist mods).
- Basically, free racist mod and scale with racist mod 🗿
- No skills? No problemo
- Never gets old
Edit: On Specific builds then you already saw how they perform on his vid. Roar is still the best on overall uses but it still feels a bit off when you doing raw damage or single targeting. Doesnt mean it's shjt. If you hate faction mods then roar itself is like a faction mod.
as i say on the video. 100% preference
I disagree with u Kringe… it all depends on the build your goin for. U running a dot build? Roar is your best friend, u wanna nuke tanky demolisher units in disruption? Xatas whisper is your go to. U wanna have insane raw dmg on your guns for eildolon hunting and other things? Eclipse is your best friend for that. Each dmg buff is unique and meant for different things. Using roar for everything would not be the efficient choice more of a lazy one and u would be reducing your dmg drastically depending on the content your playing.
Roar best for sure people always forget this is an online game apparently
@@ManLikePolo Lazy, but it gets the job done. I am more of a lazy guy here, so you do what's best, Imma just lazing around.
Can you do a video on the fashion of your Wisp please? She looks insane 😍
Roar for ability damage and team buffing. Eclispe for flexibility of offense and defense.
Some frames don’t have a good recastable ability for shield gating, so eclipse is better than roar for that too
my boy even on wisp. HE KNEW MY PAIN
Thank you my glorious king Moug - now I shall carry out your sacrilegious will, and use gloom on almost every single frame 👍
Dude, I really thought that that was the dark souls 3 arena floor and NOT just the lua captura...LMAO that got me 😆
Good thumbnail 🥰😅
the church of CO effects
Gr8 work, Ty for quality content fixing that bigger 'jupiters' who only count $ from clickbaits and shitty informations cuz ppl dont need/want verify cuz 'on video was like that'.
Just a heads up, roar can be more effective in some frames or abilities that have damage even if it dont scale with power, on MHBlacky revenant video, he pointed that roar is affecting reave and causing it to do more damage even if the skill is % based, taking that in acount, i can confirm it also works as multiplier for Doom damage, both skills that do % based not direct damage.
Roar is damage buff for everything. Eclipse is specifically weapon damage. If you want weapon damage Eclipse is the way to go. If you want DoT or ability damage go roar.
Would love to see a comparison with nourish
Thank you for another banger. Im learning so much daily from you bro. However at the start you say youll post a short list of guns with multiplicative CO, am i blind or is it not listed 😢.
@@StayAtHomeEaglesFan you are right i forgor. Adding it now
@@WispGraxx thank you!
thanks for vid
1) It would be great if you showed what operator buffs you use. i think its sling strength but not sure, since it too fast....
2) how do u use energy conversion on reservoirs and eclipse/roar at the same time 3:16 ?
There is an issue with xata where when epitaph procs xata you cant use corufell after 2 or so hits as the projectile dissapears into the void literally...Theres no damage like no number as if i missed them while being 2m in front
Great content 💪 so for Torid we use Roar? Keep it going 🧨
yea except u use bane, then xata's whisper
Can you do a video or a screenshot of your fashion on Wisp please? It looks insane 😍
1:57 how do you calculate the 160%? Is it the faction mod(1,55) x roar (1,06) = 1,64x or how do u do it?
faction mod (x1.55 = +55% ) + roar (+105% )= +160%
faction is 0,55+1,06 from roar so 1,61
@@WispGraxx oh thank u both for the explanation, thought it's multiplicative 😅 it being additive makes it easy
I remember getting downvoted on reddit for saying eclipse is better for direct damage lol
sir, i'd like to pay attention, but why does your wisp have 138 forma input?
She got hungi
Thank you for all the info, copied the Max damage no firerate Build from your vid, using it with gauss and arcane acceleration and i was thinking of replacing his 3rd, now I might go for eclipse instead of thermal sunder. One question tho, do you tap it or hold it to get the maximum bonus?
Thank you for your videos and the infos in them😊
What is multiplicative CO?
Its like galva works differently on different guns? 😮
UPD: I missed a list of multiplicative co guns in description my bad
What would be my best choice if i were to go for bo incarnon with condition overload + influence + constant blast proc? Im assuming eclipse would be better since im not going for dot as mentioned in the video? 😮
Mr. Moug, im a returning glaive prime glazer and I found that it is no longer king, can i get a quick video about the cerata and/or xoris ? I trust you the most
I know I should probably out this common on your Stahlta vid but oh well, for whatever reason I can’t really get it to be good. I do have a riven but I’m re-rolling it right now and using the Max Dmg-FR builds and it doesn’t look like how it does in the vid using the primary or secondary mode. I mean I was trying it in low level steel path without buff but I thought it should be able to preform better then it did
Don't know if you will still answer but that riven mod you have on Stahlta what does it provide?
What i mean with that is what does it provide crit chance, crit dmg, or something else.
Crit Chance, Crit Damage, Toxin, -Puncture
@WispGraxx thanks for answering this quick. Now I gotta hope I can get 1 myself with crit chance/dmg. Ofc I first gotta look into riven mods bcs I don't own one and don't know how they work so.
bro said "SMALL YAP SESSION"
Eclipse is good on wisp bc of DR buff makes wisp actuall tank
Or specific situations like PT or Tridolons
Roar most of time for any abbilty kind of frame
Xata for single target like distruption or cascade
what do you recommend for corrosive regulator dps mesa build? currently i have eclipse with 2 green shards for +4 corrosive stacks max for armor stripping
@@shawki4447 corrosive/heat regulators is what I go and roar is the best now if you dont use a bane mod. If you do use bane then go eclipse
@@WispGraxx thank you. i will switch it for sure
i am a newbie and i dont have knowledge about mods.i was searching wisp builds and i found your channel. i really liked your explanations. can you do a kuva bramma build with wisp or any suggestions about it? ( i watch a few of your videos. if u did already i didnt know)
I’m pretty sure if u use Garuda xatas can ad mor slashes and is also just very good with shotguns
What about Nourish?
So, I wanna ask something, which of these would work best with the innate 700% stealth multiplier that frames that can go invisible get? Do you have advice on what would be best there?
@@russetduchess4363 as far as i know the stealth multiplier is additive damage so all of them are pretty much same in that regard
Xata whisper all the way, it makes my bullets go woosh woosh. That'd all I need.
So on my eclipse wisp. I should be running bane mods?
@@aidanc669 eclipse will do more damage than roar on a bane build yes
@@WispGraxx I tired it out last night and 🤘🫡👍. You are 100% correct 🔥
Have u done any testing on jades weapon buff? Curious how it works....
Fun fact, it works on operator amps
what do you think about nourish with stahlta specifically
What would be best for Felarx now after the xara nerf a few months ago?
Still xata or eclipse?
How much is Rhino roar diminished before u subsume roar on Rhino at max level.
i thought that CO was condition overload the first time i heard it... what it means so?
Moug, why roar + mult CO is not the same as eclipse + mult CO in not DOT dmg? Isnt mult CO just straight up different final multiplier like eclipse? I rewatched that part about roar/eclipse few times, but I guess my english isnt good enough, or I am just too stupid to understand where is the difference
Btw kengineer in his 3 months old video (I mention that, because maybe I missed some patch) said after testing that eclipse buff is not multiplying additive gun CO part of damage, which would mean that on additive gun CO roar is a lot better, especially without bane in build
Giving this objetive: killing profit taker, using Chroma and staltha (a gun with multiplicative CO), the way to go is having a The Bane Mod and subsube Eclipse?
But if i want to use Chroma + Zenith (aditive CO) the way to do it is with roar?
I wouldn't subsume vex armor at all. On multi CO gun its better to keep it than use eclipse
@@WispGraxx I am dumb, i just realized that. Thanks. Just another question.
The Sarin Sobek Acid Shells combo. The gun is hitscan, so we can assume is additive CO (i could not find this info on the sikia nor the googlesheet). In this case Bane mod + Roar is the way to go for max hell?
You can do like rhino with eclipes (big boom)
what to use with AOE weapons like kuva bramma/torid
Why didn't you cover nourish too?
I can be of help. If you have reliable armor strip from anything other than your weapon (or latron incarnon strip) and your weapon benefits a ton from not wasting nod slots on elemental damage nourish is good to cover the viral procs. Also if your frame uses abilities often and needs the extra energy to spam shield gateing nourish is useful.
When is Fashion Frame video dropping? I want it so bad 🙏🙏🙏
Hopefully soon :p
what are the archon shards on your wisp? I know you use a health tanking build with adaptation so do you have armor on the shards?
3 armor blue and 2 strength reds
Hey man I have a serious question that has me so confused. I’ve seen you many times recommend Gun CO on AOE weapons. I tested the dmg out and it still doesn’t boost the AOE which makes me confused on why you use it on your guns? Do you rly have it just for the direct impact of the AOE shot and ignore that the AOE itself isn’t boosted? Or am I doing something wrong in my testing?
@@lerosallyn9279 yes on the stahlta i have it for the direct impact and not the AoE. Except for the ogris. Ogris simply benefits too much from status chance so its always worth to go galvanized aptitude
@@WispGraxx Ahhh okay so on smth like Kuva Zarr, don’t Gun CO. But Proboscis Cernos that uses status chance a lot, just Gun CO anyway
@@lerosallyn9279 zarr has shotgun mode so...that depends
@@Huh-0.1 I feel like you shouldn’t be using the shotgun mode considering you only have 10 ammo on the zarr
@@lerosallyn9279 For single target it's way better tho so it just depends on the situation lol, like for demo in disruption you will use shotgun mode because it just deals way more damage to them
Does roar still affect abilities because currently I'm using it on Dante and I can't even tell if it's actually increasing the ability damage
@@Keltorthegreat it is dont worry. Roar affects everything. This video goes to the nitty gritty when it comes to weapons
What is that animations set?
So if I was using my kullervo with slam magistar (i dont use faction mods) which would objectively be the best buff
Roar working on abilities >>>>>>
what animation did you use on your wisp?
What about wrathful advance? It should always be the choice for melee buffing above all the other options?
Well yeah, it's like 400% crit bonus with some strength. You just cast it and everything dies of red crits
depends what is your melee. Normal E spam with no DoT ye, if DoT focused then roar
If the enemies are dying faster then waiting for dot to proc doesn't it mean roar is loosing on the double dip dot dmg and only boosting the initial shot's dmg?
Which makes it kinda like eclipse.
Or am i getting something wrong?
Roar affecting abilities is autowin in my book
fax i use it on my wisp to buff the dmg of breach surge and it hits for like 130m sometimes
It depends on the build your goin for honestly if it’s primarily a weapons platform warframe and not a caster u don’t rlly needs strength if your guns are the main source of dmg
Like eidolon hunting for example with volt it’s better to use eclipse on him because u need raw damage against eidolons and not dots yk
@@ShinySean69 still sad that it was changed to damage + 100 * multiplier * power strength up to 5m cap. The 5m cap was always there but it used to always scale with ability power, but now it won't if your hitting hard enough.
Wisps breach surge counts as weapon damage so eclipse is better@@ShinySean69
so if CO is additive on a gun, should I use CO instead of serration on that gun? Assuming it can consistently apply at least 2 procs
yep, 0 serration on it because 2 stacks of aptitude=Serration. Its pointless to use both
why dont you use archon stretch on wisp?
@@srliburax7342 i dont use electric mote almost ever
@@WispGraxxwhy?
Круто объяснил чел 👍
Hey moag. Was wondering, I have a slash, cc and neg puncture. Is this a suitable riven to use on the stahlta?
Only starting using it after watching your vids
So which one to use for Titania's Dex Pixia?
Roar imo
Im surprised you didnt also go over vexx armor
Can't be subsumed, whereas the 3 in the video can be applied to any frame so it's an option for anyone, but Vex is exclusive to chroma
what does CO mean when you say multiplicative CO?
Means "condition overload"
Multiplicative to other damage sources instead of being additive to serration.
Bro everytime u shoot there are like 100 numbers on the screen. How are you pinpointing the highest number every time with such ease in like a millisecond lol
probably 99% playtime lol
I might be being a bit dum rn but what is multico?
Condition Overload (CO) is a melee mod that increases your damage depending on the number of status effects on an enemy. The Aptitude mods do this for your guns, so people call them CO or GunCO. Hitscan weapons apply this buff additively, but other weapons can apply it either additively or multiplicatively. The latter is a much larger damage boost, and the only way to know which one applies to your gun is to either test it yourself or check Moug's Google doc listing them all. The major difference when building is that you always want to use faction mods on additive CO guns, while on multiplicative guns you can use either faction mods or just a regular Serration
does xata's still react wierd with felarx and laetum?
nope, got fixed
Did that say 132 formas on wisp prime?
what does C.O stands for?
Cond Overload?
Yes
Which idle animation is ur wisp using?
Why do you leave vigilante supplies rank 0
Posted it on the last community post soo If you see it here you don't need to answer the other one
A question for you since this is your most recent post.
Soo I got to thinking after seeing your video I only built wisp once and didn't really use her that much soo I tried using her on a sp disruption the Sanctum one on Deimos and surviving with shield gating is impossible for me because of how little energy I get at the start soo I am thinking of doing the health tanking and I just want to know what level can I survive with health tanking can I take it to longer missions(survival, interception and disruption) and let's say stay for like 2H
Because building stacks with stahalta or any weapon with primary deadhead is HARD Because again low energy
You can easily go up to level 800 with health tanking wisp without ever using your 2. After that you really need to react with using 2 often or blinding a large area with 3
@@WispGraxx Nice soo it's going to be health tanking wisp then after level 1000+ It's second ability since I have hush on most of my wisp weapons I won't cancel right away and it'll be good
Oh and for the ppl who are reading this and don't know second ability if you look right at the ground it will continue flying there in one place and you can kill them easier there
How is Revenant with Eclipse? I am focusing on pure weapon dmg and no bane mods. Currently using Roar at 105%. I have all 3 of them in Helminth, just in case. Oh and i am using Torid so i am interested how Xata whispers works on beam weapons. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Multiple CO vs. Additive CO, will you cover EVERY weapon that has built in CO? This would be very interesting topic because the game doesn't tell you which weapon has it
Edit: or can you teach us how to test this ourself??
just look at the pastebin lol
@@WispGraxx pastebin?
Ty I found it
You mentioned the synergy with eclipse on glaives and the plague kripath, so is the exodia contagion build with wisp still good?
@@Zagiera nope, outmatched by every glaive sadly but it can still be fun
@@WispGraxx i cri everytim
Saryin, Xata Wisper, Soma
trust me
Im so confused people say eclipse is addative then theres other people say its multiplicative damage im so confused
what shards are you using?
3 Blue Armor, 2 Red Strength
which weapons have multiplying CO?
Description has the list
Out of these three? Nourish
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And Nourish doesnt Collide with damage buff skills when trying to subsume 🎉
Roar + the awesome toxin torid build you showcased + nezha + divine retribution = oops, ALL DED
even after the eclipse nerf?
What is that animation set on Wisp?
You may've been asked this, but can you share your wisp fashion?
ye, i will make a fashion video about it soon enough
@@WispGraxx Oh that's cool
Hello, I am a Warframe player that takes months of breaks and not have time to grind. Recently I have done a lot, I was MR 6 and I am now MR 12, about to be MR 13.
My question is, how do you get those crystals on the character screen? You have 2 red and 3 blue crystals in a V shape. I do not know what they are, is it possible you could explain it ? Thank you 🤙
I believe you’re referring to the archon shards. These are an end-game resource. I think they might be quest/ level locked (not quite sure sorry). But after that point you can do an “archon hunt” mission once weekly (it’s a 3 mission series like the sortie) that will guarantee a predetermined color one. The color rotates weekly. Also when you unlock the Sactum Anotomica on Deimos you will be able to have a chance to earn them (up to 5 possible a week) through another end game activity called “netracells”
They are Archon Shards found from doing archon hunts which are just higher level sorties. They are used by getting a helminth upgrade from deimos and can increase your strength and efficiency and orb pickups. I suggest you search 'Warframe Archon Shards' for guides.
Archon shards you can add yo certain base values i.e. ability strength, ability duration, armor, energy max etc you acquire shards from weekly archon hunts, netracells and deep archimedia. In order to use acquired shards you must install the archon segment available from son in the necralisk i believe
poor heavy gunner always be the testing target