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- Adam Silver addressed the pending punishment for Memphis Grizzlies star Ja Morant, who flashed a gun on Instagram live for the second time back in May. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard, and Kevin Wildes react to Silver’s comments regarding Morant’s punishment.
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This has 9 likes yaherrrrrrd
haha no thanks, he's a tool.
Why would I do that
How you wanna be a gangster when you can just chill with the ladies in Bahamas is beyond me
For real, professional bag fumbler.
It is because he isn't a gangster. He wants to become the thing he isn't. He is a wannabe and he has the money to be the wannabe. He is no leader but a follower. Instead of having fun with his friends and enjoy life they try to look cool for the gram. It's actually clown behavior 😂 we need an OG to beat Ja up to make him realize he ain't that guy.
Social media addiction
Lol he rather chill with guns & men🤷🏽💀
If you can chill w a lot of baddies it gets boring
Problem is that counseling is ineffective unless the person is there WANTING to get better and WANTING to change. Unless it's self-motivated it's worthless
It also takes more than a few days
@@waynealan3067 cool you can go comment on someone else’s take where they’re actually talking about potential suspensions
@Wayne Alan if ja was at a gun range like a responsible owner instead of waving it around a car like he's in a music video or on grand theft auto, it'd be a different story. Plenty of athletes hunt and are responsible about it. What ja has done is what gives all fun owners a bad name.
True but he needs to start with himself
So I provide therapy, and this is not accurate. Some of the most profound developments come from developing a bond with a client who clearly does not want to be at therapy. I recommend reading Rogers and his conditions for positive psychological transformation. We can think of it this way, why is someone so certain they do not want to be at therapy? Talk enough about this to the client who doesn't want to be there, and you typically end up talking about a laundry list of topics and very seldom does it have anything to do with not wanting to be at therapy. It normally has to do with the internal friction (incongruence) the client is experiencing, because to need therapy is to need development, and to need development is to be flawed, and to be flawed is to be human. It can be very hard for some, particularly males, to open up as most are emotionally starved in one way or another.
TLDR: Counselling is absolutely effective for individuals who do not want counselling. It can be as effective or more effective than having a client wanting to be at therapy.
This whole idea of gangster culture as being “cool” is just terrible. The people who really came up through it and escaped would never say that. He’s playing a character and it’s offensive and sad and a mockery to real people who struggle.
It’s baffling to me that you can say he playing a character when you don’t know that man from a can of paint, but you think you know him cuz he made it to the nba🤯🤯🤯🤯
@@longlivedagoat3109 he’s a multi-millionaire. He’s not an actual gangster. Don’t be an idiot.
@@longlivedagoat3109 everyone who participates in gang culture is playing a character
@@longlivedagoat3109dude had a great family life and he acting like a gangster, he playing for sure
Making it out of that and having that edge to you is kinda cool tho let’s be honest
When he said 8 days of counseling 😂you mean when he went to Florida for help during spring break 💀🤷🏽
Bruhhh I’ve been telling my bois! like whaaat I can’t be the only one thinking that 😂😂😂😂
i guess ja wanted a different kind of supermax
Ja out here manipulating y’all..this like a bad break up what does the other person ALWAYS do the self harm talk.he shifted the whole narrative from his persona to his mental health I find it disgusting
Yep
I know the media knows they are being manipulated but in this day in age you can’t call people out for something like this or it’s over career wise for you. So it’s “who cares about mental health the most competition”
Exactly what I think he’s doing, he needs to man up and take his punishment like a man
All on him. The people that feel bad for him are just ignorant and making it worse. Smack that fool across the head
Facts!
I'm absolutely interested in the punishment part. When someone lies right to your face about being 'rehabilitated,' when they aren't, it's time to stop being nice.
What exactly was he to be rehabilitated from?
@@JacquesSays I think you’re trying to sound wise but in reality it’s just a dumb question
@@JacquesSaysbeing a dumbaz. You know what they say though you can't fix stupid, you can tame it with a two-by-four. I surely do hope they make him work to come back in the NBA, another comment I read he has enough money to do whatever he wants to do. So do you want to be in the NBA or do you want to be in the streets? If it's the NBA he wants a long tedious process that proves that's what he wants. The bye nonsense, how about you man up and take responsibility for your actions instead of being a punk. Spoiled entitled ppl nowadays.
@@josephlongo3109 then enlighten me
@@JacquesSays dude needs to be rehabilitated from clearly destructive habits. Even if the NBA wasn't involved, this would still be a bad and possibly dangerous behavior for the ja's livelihood and the ones around him. Just simply ask yourself a question, if you have kids yourself better,
If you had a 23 year old son and all you saw on his social media was that he was rocking iron with people you didn't know, in places that invite trouble with said iron, how would you feel about that?
It's not safe regardless if they're rich or poor. It's a problem and they would need help to stop before something worse might happen. Money just exacerbates all the negatives.
Ja about to get sent to the shadow realm😂
Even that might not help him. He might come back more possessed
This is an insult to people really dealing with stress and mental health issues. These pundits just wanna stay on Ja's good side and have access to him.
So you dont think someone with constant media attention and huge responsibility could possibly have trouble with that?
@@duckman6422 criticism comes with it, but it is not life or death. And Ja was thuggin at girl volleyball games and jumping on teenager's. He's not putting himself into real trouble.
Not gonna lie Nick is the best person to listen to on topics like this. He really carries these convos with emotion and realness.
Agreed. As long as it’s not topics of extreme emotion (love for Lebron, hate for curry) Nick is clearly a very smart and analytical person.
There's no way we can be in ja's head to know for sure if he is going through something serious or he is just stupid. Whatever it is, as a person who dealt with depression and anxiety for years, not every bad decision I made had to do with those things. Dude is an adult and a father. It's time for some responsibility. Being cuddled too much stops a boy from turning into a man.
As someone who claims to suffer from mental awareness you should also know that it doesn’t manifest in identical ways for each person that experiences it. So your experience does not make you a professional on other peoples situations
@@danieljessekaplan that's what I just said in my first sentence. There's no way we can know for sure. The point is that mental health doesn't exempt anyone from responsibility. And sometimes that very resposibility shows us that we're still in control of our lives and are capable of getting back to the right path.
Facts .. real facts
@@truthseeker198 the internet is the only place where you can write one thing and someone reads something entirely different.
I’ll help..he’s stupid
He should get a full season to set a precedent
I didnt know Tom Green was a sports analyst.
Trust me losing out on 20M to 40M plus dollars will make any man change there ways.
First Things First: Stop The CAP! He's trying to weasel his way out of a harsh punishment from the NBA and to keep his endorsements.
Yup. Those social media post was a PR stunt. If someone has a problem how do you thing isn’t going to get fixed on the first try? Especially just 8 days! If he’s around his dad and mom, maybe that’s part of the problem. How was he growing up? What was he doing in high school?
WHO SAID HE STRESSED THO ?? he chillin
What he's struggling with is identity crisis. In my opinion, what would make him change is taking the game away from him indefinitely, until he clears a certain understanding with counseling & other programs. I would tell him, you already have money that should last you a lifetime, so why do you want to work for the NBA? You can be an entrepreneur, like nba youngboy. If he says he still wants to work for the NBA then i would have the criteria for him to be reinstated back into the league very tedious and annoying process, to make extra sure this is what he actually wants.
He clearly takes basketball for granted.
For most people, their hooping days end at high-school or college.
Wyldes comment is spot on. It's not only about the punishments, but how to change the man, how is it to pursue good image of the players and to the NBA.
The pressure of being the face of a franchise, the pressure of taking care of your family, pressure of going out there to perform day in and day out. The stress of all of that can weigh on you.
He’s one of many superstars in the league. Not even the youngest. He has help if he needs it. He has his family around him- dad at almost every game…he has ways to escape the stress, but instead of turning his phone on ig live and toting guns. That’s just dumb decisions of him trying to be something he’s not.
Welcome to the real world. Imagine having to go through some of those pressures in life like the majority of society does but not being payed millions like he is
Pressure is figuring out where you’re going to spend tomorrow night after you’ve been kicked out your apartment. Pressure is eating a soy sauce packet because you haven’t eaten in 2 days and you have $.47 to your name. I don’t want to hear about Ja’s problems. Being paid millions of dollars isn’t pressure. Messing that up is just stupidity.
Omg, excuses, excuses, excuses.. smh
Nick talkin bout he may be troubled..in any video did that man look like he had a trouble in the world he seemed pretty happy and confident in everything hes done
I mean you don’t necessarily have to outwardly show that you’re troubled. Some people hide / keep it internal
Yeah he's not troubled
That's a terrible way to try to gauge someone's mental health. How they look on a video with their friends
I remember seeing a video clip of people who committed suicide. It showed what they did days, weeks, even hours before doing it. All happy, with friends and/or families, engaging in various activities (hiking, dancing, bungee jumping, etc.).
It is not uncommon to present oneself differently than how they feel.
@@michelphilippe193 so being a gangster from the streets is on his bucket list?
Help him get better. Give him a season or even two off to get his head together and just do him. It's the caring thing to do for this young man.
Let me tell all those who say hes young hes going to learn bla bla bla...something i learned by the time i was 17 -18 theres no excuse to fail your family to fail yourself life teaches and shows us all the consequences in every aspect weve seen it on the news, next door ,a friend , etc what happens when we dont do whats right drugs,gangs,drinking,guns example growing up you were a child you saw what worked and what didnt in the way your dad educated you now you can apply what worked and change what didnt when raising your kids you have no reason or valid excuse if you fail as a father so getting back to ja there is nothing he can say to justify his actions hes 23 years old a grown man hes failing himself, familiy , employer and busines partherns and fans no excuses!!!
The more I think about this, the more I wonder if we'll look back and think, "this was Ja crying for help" - I hope it doesn't end up that way.
People have tried to help and he ignored it
People have been saying that all along and early on.
true
@@Frostie323 It’s like Zion with his eating issues
Spoiled kids always act out when nobody there to check them
Ja does not have a mental health issue. Stop with the excuse. What stress was he in? He doesn't have to work a regular job from 9-5, doesn't have worry about paying bills on time, doesn't have to worry about paying kids to college, doesn't have to worry about paying for healthcare when sick and also retirement. Anyone who love to be in his shoes making millions of dollars just playing basketball.
Still waiting for the 'Jokic was robbed of the MVP conversation'. No hindsight about it. He was the best player in the NBA regular season.
It's not just Ja, it's a whole 1-2 generations of these young adults and teens. They have been given everything and don't understand the value of anything, not even life itself. Any minor inconvenience in their life and they are depressed. It's concerning and troubling for our future in this country.
This is the single dumbest thing I've seen someone say in a while. And one of our congress members asked the ceo of tik tok if tik tok uses the wifi.
What a stupid take. I remember in Latin way back when translating letters from that time and the one I will never forget was the teen who wrote to his father about how his friends all had new clothes so he needed them and he shouldn't have to work so hard at school because he was already going to take over the farm blah blah blah. There has never, and never will be, a time when a portion of the population is not accused of being lazy, entitled, spoiled etc.
@@MEanPenguin908 there's always been generations of lazy,entitled ppl in society but in this generation of society ppl make more excuses for why they not holding someone accountable.Ppl nowadays really talk like a 23 year old man or woman is a kid that's crazy to me
50 games, write it down because I’m calling it
Stress man that guy don't know about stress. Imagine he wasn't a basketball player. He would have been dead by now from stress.
Stress doesn’t just go away from being a basketball player if its the symptom of a broader chronic issue
So because he's in the NBA he ain't stressing anymore because he's getting paid millions. How does that work??😂..so stress is only when you're not rich . Old saying more which is true more money more problems, less money bigger problemss for many people.
NICK IM PROUD YOU TALKING LESS AND LISTENNING MORE, YOU ALLOWING THEM TO SPEAK 👌🏼
Brou is the man, but downplaying how all the stuff in Ja’s head is affecting him and then talking about him needing to be about mental health is a contradiction that the older generation needs to grapple with. Ja is responsible for all this and needs to be accountable, and to do so he will need to be able to communicate and create healthier environments for himself. Being an alcoholic is going to make that impossible even with all the money and resources in the world. Sounds like he’s going to get a long ban, really hope this is the wake up call for him to get better because this could easily get worse…
The bigger problem is that the whole "mental health" excuse is just the newest PR tool to garner sympathy when somebody famous messes up. Ja put out that bs PR statement, pretended he got help and then kept doing what he was doing. It's always "my mental health is bad", but what does that have to do with flashing guns at people and aiming lasers at fellow nba employees? It's just BS and it's gross that they do this whenever someone famous gets busted acting a fool.
Kevin spacey was depressed and struggling with his sexuality and thats why he touched little kids. Roseanne barr was depressed and struggling with insomnia and that's why she made racist comments. Ezra miller was having a mental health crisis and that's why he was abusing children, choking women etc. There are numerous examples in the last 5+ years of celebs misbehaving and then crying about mental health issues in their PR campaign afterwards. Are they all lying? No probably not. But it's just a manipulation technique and (considering Ja's behavior before, during and after these issues) it's obvious ja is just trying to manipulate people and really just believes hes done nothing wrong and he's just a victim.
Or Ja just needs to toughen up.
As an alcoholic, work is the only thing keeping me from drinking 5 days a week. If I had no job and all the money, I would be dead in 6 months. If Ja is even anywhere near as bad an alcoholic as I am (if he is one at all, mind you), leaving the structure of the NBA will be disastrous. I mean, even WITH the NBA structure he's currently in, he can't help himself.
*How old was Kyrie when he said the earth is flat? And the dude got crucified by the media and called a bird brain. This dude flashes a gun several times, pistol whips kids and gets at security at malls.... And the dude get mad sympathy.*
Y'all gotta stop blaming his friends cause Ja is clearly the bad influence. Dude has every reason in the world not to what he's doing. He's a rich young man that feels untouchable. He just needs to be made an example of tbh
The way brou says that last line hits hard
I love having Wiles being the middle guy. He’d be fun to stick on the TNT crew
Nah because he's too funny it would be all chaos
I think the issue is
We think Ja is a ball player playing a gangster - which may be true
But there's the possibility that he's actually a gangster playing a ball player; the fact his mother calls him to handle "beefs" is a giveaway in this regard.
Adam Silver has uncovered that Ja is actually Dr. Claw from Inspector Gadget.
Temetrius gonna realize his dream to be a full time gangsta in few weeks
Ja is so immature and very childish
That’s all it boils down to. He’s intoxicated with all the money
@@acobbs9 fr
Big facts
Where was this energy for Kyrie?😂
What they don’t want to approach is the idea that Ja is just a highly manipulative individual who knows how to direct the “adults.” It’s what he did with Jalen Rose and the commissioner, and his “apology” post. I think his instagram story was just another manipulation.
I think with what Nick was saying in Ja being troubled would fall into this, whether you think of what he’s done as self-serving manipulation, or as a relapse, cry for help of some kind doesn’t really matter. Either of these scenarios indicates troubling behavior, there’s probably some conniving, scheming individual that you may have to associate with, or have them in your life more regularly. As much as you wish they’d get what’s coming to them, some kind of punishment let’s say, it’s also important that a person learns to be better. I’d rather Ja learn to be better, if he’s being as manipulative as you say, than want all the hate and vitriol be thrown at him. Those things can coexist
Self sabotage is a real thing
Someone told Ja "you're the hoodest nba player ive seen" and Ja took that to heart
Wildes was on his game for this one
Actually you cant control his life. Just keep suspending till he figures it out.
Its not just flashing the gun... it was the Pacers incident. The Denver incident. The Foot Locker inceident. The Mcdonalds Drive through incident.....
Everyone head and heart is in the right spot here in just that they want Ja to be ok. Punishment aside just his pure well being making sure he’s good is always a breath of fresh air seeing people care about other people
A 20 game suspension would be very impactful. It immediately would disqualify him from end of season awards next season.
I didn't know Kevin was this deep. He spoke like a frustrated dad.
IMO Morant is having a identity crisis not a mental health crisis
He's gonna be suspended for a year.
This incident tells me far more about the NBA than it does Ja Morant. It’s become evident that they failed to (or chose not to) do their due diligence the first go round. Had there been a thorough investigation with negative consequences for his actions, perhaps Ja wouldn’t be in this predicament today.
Edit: Before anyone else drags me in comments, let me be clear in saying that Ja is ultimately his own decision maker and I am not blaming the league for his actions. I was merely pointing out the preferential treatment and lack of consequences he faced for his poor choices. The league was (and still is) far too soft and they should have some accountability in their handling of this situation.
Yes, let’s blame the company he works for, for this grown man being an idiot and acting like a child and wanna gangster 🤣😂🤣, ok..
One of the best dialogs ive seen regarding Ja. I hope he gets some better guidance and finds his way.
What gives him stress is obviously his parents.
Ja Morant is smart for using the Mental Health excuse. People can’t question it or punish you as much 💯
Very stressed playing the game you love making millions. I would love that kind of stress
Everything comes at a cost. Fame sounds great but it also comes with zero privacy. Being rich means you don’t know who your real friends are because everyone wants something from you.
When you sign a contract for millions of dollars, pressure is applied to make sure you meet expectations. And if you fail, you fail on National tv where everyone can see you. If money and fame were everything, there would be no depressed people in Hollywood.
I think suspending him for 20 games is the right move.
He also needs to get whatever help he needs.
The whole season will get his attention
😂 D.T: FAKE NEWS. Chris, Gil already said there wasn't any bullets but he did have a gun.
What’s the additional information? I wonder if that’ll ever be released cus we never even found out how he got that gun to Colorado in the previous incident.
Stop calling JANORANT juvenile. He is a freaken adult for Christ sake.
Keep in mind that if any person working for a company broke the contract with your employer multiple times you would be fired. You can break your employment contract without breaking the law.
Y'all keep saying he's only 23,... Blah blah yadiyada, did Kobe do something like this when he's 23? Did MJ, did Lebron? Come on, keep it real, it's his CHOICE, not society, HE made his own decision. Nothing to do with age.
just because he stopped following him doesnt mean he not fooling with him . they take that following/unfollowing tooooo serious . just like when a player unfollows a team . wtf that mean . relax
I agree that this is about more than punishment. But, the punishment aspect would not just be about punitive actions for Ja - but also to send a message to all other players that you can’t wave guns on social media and simply get a pass.
literally no other players do this though. 450 players in the league and for 449 of them it’s a non-issue.
@@jugbrewer Yeap, but league wants to keep it that way. Give an inch - in any arena in life - and people will take a mile.
@@rfreeze i disagree with that sweeping generalization.
jr smith killed somebody with his car while driving recklessly and the league only suspended him 7 games. by your logic the league should be seeing an influx of players commiting vehicular manslaughter because they gave him such a light suspension for such a serious offense.
boogie cousins was recorded verbalizing death threats to his ex girlfriend and the league didn't suspend him. have we seen an increase in domestic abuse in the league because they didn't punish him for it? no of course not. just like with ja, or the thing with jr smith, these actions are such a fringe minority that it's never going to be a league-wide issue.
@@jugbrewer Vehicular manslaughter is not as arbitrary as waving a gun - nor is it glamorized like gun/gangsta culture is in hip-hop. No one is boasting/rapping about “vehicular manslaughter” in hip-hop culture/videos/lyrics - a culture that a lot of players - and young Americans in general, actually - follow. An action like waving a gun - unfortunately makes a lot of individuals in certain communities feel like they will receive credibility from others. Not saying it *definitely* means other players will do the same (or similar actions)…but guarantee you the NBA is thinking “it doesn’t want to find out the hard way” that they will.
No amount of training can change ones stupidity.
I feel like nba needs a big brother program
Twitter would cry racism
This is definitely going to be my 2nd best NBA show after Shannon Sharpe leaves undisputed.
So Undisputed will be #1 for you when Shannon leaves?
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People not realizing that with being paid all that money comes expectations, with expectations comes stress. The more money, the more expectations, the more stress.. Ja is the face of a franchise that is also spoken so highly of that people put him as a future face of the league. That's a lot of pressure and I'm just hoping he learns to live with the experiences of it and grow.
That’s over now though, the face of the league stuff. Even if he turns his life around, no one will believe it because he already said once he would do it, and here we are.
If it was the pressure and expectations, you would think he wouldn't have been saying stuff like I'm fine in the west. he used up his honeymoon period being the next big thing. people would have given him a pass for not winning it all for at least a couple years if not for the shennanigans.
No, we realize it but not giving him a pass because of “expectations and stress” you live and you learn that some mistakes you just can’t make twice. He so happen to make that mistake within a 2 month period.
He been in the league long enough to know how to keep pressure under wraps it’s not like he’s a rookie
@@erikdayne5429 spoken like someone of true ignorance.
They always want to find excuses or save rich folks. But never poor folks.
He need to just get a real mentor that's not his father. Someone who played and he learn from.
Chris 2:34 you lace front is showing
When your punishment date has to be announced …you know you messed up ..
so nothing of substance will be happening. sometimes i miss the way Stern has handled the NBA
Media should all stop talking about Ja. He doesn't even care about himself and his money. Why we need to care? There is no punishment will change him.
Not to nitpick but punishment nor rehabilitation are the primary purpose of prison. The main goal of prison is to separate criminals from the rest of society, with a secondary goal of deterring others from committing crime
Discipline > punishment.. discipline implies encouraging growth through facing consequences and deliberation of a situation.. punishment only implies paying for your descion/action....parents out there take note. Children can tell when you are punishing them out of anger or disciplining them out of Love.. the energy of each is palpable.. and leaves mark for sure
At some point discipline becomes ineffective when the actions continue.
@noahtagliapietra8734 it is always up to an individual to revcieve discipline.. but it has to be offered.. eventually, if the discipline isn't working, punishment will not work either.. and it's just time to stop throwing pearls to swine..
Discipline is for children. Adults don't need discipline. Adults need punishment
@antonioiniguez1615 not true. Most of us are raised by lost people who don't understand discipline. What's the point of making someone pay for something without the hope of growth?
My guess is Ja will only be banned for a few weeks. Adam is soft
Chris really not doing Ja any good making excuses. Suspend him for the year!!
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I really think it’s waaaay overblown… Ja is reaching to make a good PR move which is resulting in constant negative PR… he is doing what a lot of ppl his age do with absolutely no malicious intent..
People have been ignoring Ja throwing up neighborhood signs while on the court for the last 3 seasons.
All this wouldn't happen if his dad checked him when he needed to . Instead he is living vicariously through him and acting a fool on tv during games.
For those of us who aren’t multi millionaires, and actually work multiple jobs for a living… *yawn*
Therapy and counselor ain’t gonna do squat if he doesn’t want it for himself. Plain and simple. He did “therapy” for a reported 2 hours. Then left and said he was good. 2 hours of counseling does absolutely nothing. This guy needs a Udonis Haslem. A veteran player who’s not gonna back down to the young star, and will call him out on his BS and show up even when he doesn’t want it
It started in the bubble, he talked about in a Taylor Rooks interview🙏💕
I agree mostly, I want them to be concerned about holding him accountable, if he's deeply troubled, he needs help and part of that is acceptability, if he's really going through just bad mental health I do hope the people who truly care about him get him help and try to change his attitude, the gangster stuff is dangerous
well you dont worry about memphis making the playoffs or how the grizzlies survive as a franchise
I wonder how long people will provide excuses for the decisions a grown man chooses to do. Parents living thru their child. Too many media people giving excuses.
Really appreciate this nuanced discussion about mental health in the sports world - I think young people, particularly Black athletes have less access to mental health resources & not many platforms that take these topics seriously. I agree healing is a much more productive process in the long term than punishment. Could be a very positive opportunity to show college, high school, & younger that being vulnerable & seeking help is not a sign of weakness but rather self awareness & self care.
Unloaded not loaded guns.
imagine they calling you a fake gangster on national TV lmao his boys better be clownin him or hes not gunna figure it out
Rapping and having a gun is not a crime just be glad when this bs over
Talked to the coming later today. It’s a year suspension. Y’all welcome.
This is getting simliar to the Aaron Hernandez situtaion.
The NBA can’t fix Ja. He has to want to fix his problem and seek professional help.
A smarter man than ja one said, stupid is as stupid does
Ja’s story if it goes all the way south. Will be a cautionary tale, when keeping it real goes wrong.