The people who don't like them are the people who drove them for a living. Cold in winter, hot in summer, extremely uncomfortable, drafts coming in everywhere, suspension that could break your teeth, I could carry on. But they look the part at a show
Compared with today’s vehicles like Volvo and Scania they were extremely difficult in winter for warmth and comfort but they were better than a lot of other manufacturers of the day.
@@alexrobinson2281 The Swedes made fools out of our manufacturers with Scania and Volvo and that’s why they have taken over our truck and bus industry which Leyland used to dominate,that ridiculous 500 fixed head engine finished Leyland with the amount of warranty claims it had,a firm I worked for had two with more on order,both seized up within months so the boss cancelled them and bought Volvo and never looked back,they were brilliant.
When we had the Atkinson’s it was 220 Cummins (205bhp) we had , I remember seeing a few 180 Gardiners , think there was a rolls Royce engine in one of ours .
Ahh them were the days, I drove a lot of these in my mid 20s, I was offered a job on BRS on mostly DAFs. The little units were mostly 9speed, but the big engined ones had all the power you needed at 38ton but with more gears than really necessary eg 18. Much later I went on a Foden with a Cat lump and a13 speed Fuller Eaton and no speed limiter. Downside was the elephant foot rear suspension, ok when well loaded but kicked the shit out of you empty!!!
🇯🇲🇯🇲 Back in the day , if you didnt have one of these in your heavy haulage fleet , it aint conplete . They were very powerful . We also use them to do Cane Hauling .
Yes I agree with @neilbunting8692. But it is a handsome truck. There was an Atkinson Borderer with a Rolls-Royce Gold Wing engine. This country did make a lot of trucks, we should have been the leader of truck manufacturing. R.I.P. Atkinson, A.E.C., Albion, Bristol, Bedford, Commer, E.R.F., Foden, Guy, Scammel, Seddon, Thorneycroft. I'm sure I have overlooked a marque. It is so sad to have lost all these. Why why why ??.
Why, Why, Why? cause they were crap, rubbish, under powered, under braked, Zero consideration for the driver or mechanics that had to work and live with them. Typical of the stuck in the past, stiff upper lip, head in the sand British empire attitude manufacturer's and operators that lorded them as the ultimate tool for the job. If work place health and safety had been around back then there would have been millions of pound compensation claims for the people that had their lives destroyed, by driving them.
I took my HGV1 test in a 69 -Atki in 1976. It was the hottest summer for years. It was like driving a greenhouse on wheels. I have always hated plastic cabs since hen.
Yes that was the one large cab no room inside , i was an O/D at the time and i had it maintained by a local Foden operator who also had a workshop ,at the first MOT i took it to he instructed me to get the rag spanner out before i took it in to the MOT station i had no clue what he was on about he had to explain to wipe all the oil leeks of the engine happy days @@NeverlateinaV8
The worst thing that ever happened to Atkinson was being bought out by Seddon,quality went straight down the drain, Atkinson was a premium brand till they took over and ruined the whole brand. The haulage company I worked for never had any because the order book was always full and build time was over 2years if you wanted Gardner engined vehicles, Suttons of St, Helen’s had a fleet of Atkinsons and are still in business today which is more than be said for a lot of haulage companies including the one I worked for.
@@NeverlateinaV8 Stobart undercut everyone who got in his way,if he couldn’t buy them he forced them out of business by undercutting the rate’s,people thought Stobart was a shining star in the haulage industry when in reality he was a total Arsehole and a ruthless business man. A driver I knew who worked for him said he’d rather be unemployed than work for them,he had a nice fleet and that was about all that could be said about that company,been taken over themselves now thank God.
If you ever drove one regularly, you k ew it would be cold in the winter and hot In the summer. Uncomfortable, harsh suspension and awkward access to the cab. Thankfully the times of having to drive such things has passed.
Compared with the units of the day, i preferred the atki over the competion, but i did like the foden 12 speed box.
The best thing to come out of the late 60/70 s was the influx of scania/ Volvo/Daf etc brought in the driver comfort and a good driver environment
I loved the F7 Volvo’s when they replaced some of the Atki’s 👍🏻
The people who don't like them are the people who drove them for a living. Cold in winter, hot in summer, extremely uncomfortable, drafts coming in everywhere, suspension that could break your teeth, I could carry on. But they look the part at a show
Compared with today’s vehicles like Volvo and Scania they were extremely difficult in winter for warmth and comfort but they were better than a lot of other manufacturers of the day.
Well said !
@@alexrobinson2281 The Swedes made fools out of our manufacturers with Scania and Volvo and that’s why they have taken over our truck and bus industry which Leyland used to dominate,that ridiculous 500 fixed head engine finished Leyland with the amount of warranty claims it had,a firm I worked for had two with more on order,both seized up within months so the boss cancelled them and bought Volvo and never looked back,they were brilliant.
Had a v8 Mandator , spent more time in the workshop , it’s ok looking at these things at a truck show but they were a bag of shite to drive
I past my test on one at 21, drove one for two years after that , definitely got more comfort when we got a Seddon Atkinson and then a F86 Volvo 😁,
The best classic truck ever. Love the the Atki
The 8 cylinder 240 hanging out the back of the cab !
When we had the Atkinson’s it was 220 Cummins (205bhp) we had , I remember seeing a few 180 Gardiners , think there was a rolls Royce engine in one of ours .
As they were in everything they were put in , matched to a 9 speed fuller they were great .
We had two with the 6 speed David brown gearbox , you could roll a fag in between gear changes 😁
Ah yes , the rain cooled Gardener
It was a rain cooled driver too , some of ours had rain coming in the top of the door 😩
Once the backbone of long haul trucking on the UK
I did night trunk and store deliveries with one , stearing not good in tight back yards 😁
Ahh them were the days, I drove a lot of these in my mid 20s, I was offered a job on BRS on mostly DAFs. The little units were mostly 9speed, but the big engined ones had all the power you needed at 38ton but with more gears than really necessary eg 18. Much later I went on a Foden with a Cat lump and a13 speed Fuller Eaton and no speed limiter. Downside was the elephant foot rear suspension, ok when well loaded but kicked the shit out of you empty!!!
🇯🇲🇯🇲 Back in the day , if you didnt have one of these in your heavy haulage fleet , it aint conplete . They were very powerful . We also use them to do Cane Hauling .
Yes I agree with @neilbunting8692. But it is a handsome truck. There was an Atkinson Borderer with a Rolls-Royce Gold Wing engine. This country did make a lot of trucks, we should have been the leader of truck manufacturing. R.I.P. Atkinson, A.E.C., Albion, Bristol, Bedford, Commer, E.R.F., Foden, Guy, Scammel, Seddon, Thorneycroft. I'm sure I have overlooked a marque. It is so sad to have lost all these. Why why why ??.
The Rolls-Royce engine was called the 'Eagle'
Don’t think they moved with the times fast enough
Why, Why, Why? cause they were crap, rubbish, under powered, under braked, Zero consideration for the driver or mechanics that had to work and live with them. Typical of the stuck in the past, stiff upper lip, head in the sand British empire attitude manufacturer's and operators that lorded them as the ultimate tool for the job.
If work place health and safety had been around back then there would have been millions of pound compensation claims for the people that had their lives destroyed, by driving them.
Same thing happened to the British motorcycle industry, Japanese made bikes that were far more advanced and didn’t leak oil
@@NeverlateinaV8 Yes we have lost so much. Shipbuilding, Aviation, Motorbikes all lost forever😒🤔
I took my HGV1 test in a 69 -Atki in 1976. It was the hottest summer for years. It was like driving a greenhouse on wheels. I have always hated plastic cabs since hen.
Yes you were either hot or cold 😁
to look at reminisce not to drive for a living in fact i owned Foden s80 180 gardner soon got rid and bought some thing that went up hills
I remember a foden that had massive headlights , don’t know what one it was .
Yes that was the one large cab no room inside , i was an O/D at the time and i had it maintained by a local Foden operator who also had a workshop ,at the first MOT i took it to he instructed me to get the rag spanner out before i took it in to the MOT station i had no clue what he was on about he had to explain to wipe all the oil leeks of the engine happy days @@NeverlateinaV8
there certainly better to look at than to drive thats for sure
Definitely 😁
The worst thing that ever happened to Atkinson was being bought out by Seddon,quality went straight down the drain, Atkinson was a premium brand till they took over and ruined the whole brand. The haulage company I worked for never had any because the order book was always full and build time was over 2years if you wanted Gardner engined vehicles, Suttons of St, Helen’s had a fleet of Atkinsons and are still in business today which is more than be said for a lot of haulage companies including the one I worked for.
Stobarts put a lot of them out of business , I had a Seddon Atkinson, 250.,290 and a 320 , all Cummins, not bad motors for the early 80s
@@NeverlateinaV8 Stobart undercut everyone who got in his way,if he couldn’t buy them he forced them out of business by undercutting the rate’s,people thought Stobart was a shining star in the haulage industry when in reality he was a total Arsehole and a ruthless business man. A driver I knew who worked for him said he’d rather be unemployed than work for them,he had a nice fleet and that was about all that could be said about that company,been taken over themselves now thank God.
I didn’t ever think I would work for Stobart , but they have taken over our contract, at least we’re not on the Stobart rate ,
If you ever drove one regularly, you k ew it would be cold in the winter and hot In the summer. Uncomfortable, harsh suspension and awkward access to the cab. Thankfully the times of having to drive such things has passed.
Looking back , I loved my Atki, maybe because I past my test on one , at 21 you didn’t bother about the cold 😁
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