Yeaaah no now after some weeks picto feels like the new dragoon and viper just can't win at anything... Want to counter viper? Just walk away, and our kit is useless~
So the way that I see viper is a very team dependent dps, especially when it's ult is involved. You have to play around teammate position more and be aware. It still has decent poke damge on command and can do a 20k poke from range like drg but the ult is what differences it Low battle high viper is terrible in 1v1 but that's for all jobs(except nin) Picto to me is an easy job with lower skill floor and ceiling than viper hence it makes it super fun and enjoyable since there is less mental you need to do. I feel like it falls into the same category as and ast, drg However the job is complex when it comes to min maxing it damages since there's like 5 different variations and timing for when to paint and what you need for engages, it is equivalent to playing mch in that respect so c:
@@Masietro ofc i agree with everything ya say. But then again we play frontline where u can be the best player in the world but when 15 ranged ppl spam into u it's never going to be a fun time with any melee hahaha.
@@SleepyMockii I agree when playing melee it is exceedingly difficult to play into ranged The way I see it to counter is playing into situations where they have to fight, like nodes or objectives where they have to be in close proximity. And pray there isn't a whm
@@SleepyMockii to me if you check my viper guide I go alot about the pros and cons about the job, but yeah snake scales is a detrimental ability 90% of time. But also what makes it slow is that you're locked behind of gcd damage than ogcd
Ouroboros takes way too long to register it's dmg, needs to get fixed
I agree there's such a long delay for damage for almost all of your actions
I am bad at melee PVP.... but I was able to always use a skill that hurt a lot... before dying ^^;
You see that means you're still giving contributions xD
Strange, I went 1/12/8 with it in a recent match. I think it's weak. Because SURELY the problem can't be me.
Viper is good melee job but it's hard to use since you can be very squishy if you're not careful
Guide will be out soon
@@Masietro Guide ASAP PLZ!?! VIPER KING!
@@Eddie_Gonzalez either by tomorrow or two days it would have been out today but I forgot today was a holiday
yea as soon as I saw the pvp kit I knew
NOT WRONG
Yeaaah no now after some weeks picto feels like the new dragoon and viper just can't win at anything...
Want to counter viper?
Just walk away, and our kit is useless~
So the way that I see viper is a very team dependent dps, especially when it's ult is involved.
You have to play around teammate position more and be aware. It still has decent poke damge on command and can do a 20k poke from range like drg but the ult is what differences it
Low battle high viper is terrible in 1v1 but that's for all jobs(except nin)
Picto to me is an easy job with lower skill floor and ceiling than viper hence it makes it super fun and enjoyable since there is less mental you need to do. I feel like it falls into the same category as and ast, drg
However the job is complex when it comes to min maxing it damages since there's like 5 different variations and timing for when to paint and what you need for engages, it is equivalent to playing mch in that respect so c:
@@Masietro ofc i agree with everything ya say.
But then again we play frontline where u can be the best player in the world but when 15 ranged ppl spam into u it's never going to be a fun time with any melee hahaha.
Something is missing tho, viper just feels so ungodly slow and snake scales needs to be changed into being able to move with it.
@@SleepyMockii I agree when playing melee it is exceedingly difficult to play into ranged
The way I see it to counter is playing into situations where they have to fight, like nodes or objectives where they have to be in close proximity. And pray there isn't a whm
@@SleepyMockii to me if you check my viper guide I go alot about the pros and cons about the job, but yeah snake scales is a detrimental ability 90% of time. But also what makes it slow is that you're locked behind of gcd damage than ogcd