JRPG Series Tier List #1: Suikoden, Grandia & Wild Arms

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  • @Докторпарадокс
    @Докторпарадокс 4 роки тому +36

    just started replaying Suikoden 5 I guess I am not the only one who had fire inside him reinvigorated by 100 heroes announcement

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 4 роки тому +8

      I am playing a marathon of the 5 games, and I am currently at almost the end of 5, it feels good but at the same sad that I almost finishing the Marathon.

    • @Докторпарадокс
      @Докторпарадокс 4 роки тому

      @@SeventhheavenDK Try Suikoden 4 tactics it's basically alternative route of Suikoden 4 and I enjoyed it more than Original S4 it is grid based tactical game Like FF Tactics speaking of which Tactics Ogre Let us cling together is also great and very mature war story with Zero anime cringe things (like sexualized lolis, an idiot or Perv Protag and such) if you did not play it do it it is basically Suikoden for more Mature audience and it shows War for what it is Slight spoiler first choice in the game is either Slaughter innocent civilians in your own settlement and blame the enemy to ignite peoples hate and have justification to Launch an assault theoretically ending the war quickly since you no longer wait for their move or be moral refuse to kill people you have sworn to protect but then you will be branded a traitor who caused massacre in the first place meaning you will be hunted by Assassins and Family and friends of those who were massacred and things go deeper from there since it's just the FIRST choice
      a bit long but I just love to talk about this game

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 4 роки тому

      @@Докторпарадокс . I played and finished Suikoden Tactics, but I didn't like it much, to be honest, also the fact it followed 4 story didn't help much because I never found 4's cast interesting at all. I actually liked the other spin off, Suikoden Tierkress, way much more.
      Oh, yes, I have played Tactics Ogre Let us cling together (and Knight of Lodis too), while Final Fantasy Tactics is still my favorite tactics game, oh my, Let us cling together is awesome too, Chaos route is my favorite one, by the way.

    • @Докторпарадокс
      @Докторпарадокс 4 роки тому

      @@SeventhheavenDK I liked Tactics more since there were no random encounters and no "where should I go now?" which plagued S4 and I did not Tierkreis yet might try in the future

    • @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398
      @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398 4 роки тому

      @@SeventhheavenDK i like tactics too but after playing devil survivor. I like devil survivor more. It more brutally hard have same great storyline.

  • @PS1Fan1991
    @PS1Fan1991 4 роки тому +8

    These are my personal rankings, but aren't necessarily which ones are my favourites, but how I see it.
    S Rank - Suikoden II and Grandia II
    A Rank - Suikoden III, Suikoden V, Wild Arms, Wild Arms II, Wild Arms 3 and Grandia.
    B Rank - Suikoden, Suikoden IV and Suikoden Tactics.

    • @AppericateGamer
      @AppericateGamer 4 роки тому +1

      Zachary Essey LOVE THIS RANKING

    • @pulpodesigner
      @pulpodesigner 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Grandia II is an S all the way!!!

    • @theflyingninja1
      @theflyingninja1 4 роки тому +1

      I agree completely, except I'd bump Suikoden 1 up a grade.

    • @PS1Fan1991
      @PS1Fan1991 4 роки тому

      @@theflyingninja1 My reasoning is based on that I feel that the first and fourth game from technical aspects are equal in quality. I went over my own checklist before making the decision. It was hard as I love both of them.

    • @corywashington9580
      @corywashington9580 4 роки тому +4

      Am I the only one that liked Grandia 1 more than 2. I love both games and I played Grandia 2 first. I would put it at S tier and put Grandia 2 at A tier

  • @IThinkIStoleYourSandwich
    @IThinkIStoleYourSandwich 4 роки тому +4

    I'd honestly never complain about there being some overlap in your videos. It's always fun to hear your opinion next to some gameplay for all these games. The more Erik Landon videos the better

  • @lens_hunter
    @lens_hunter 4 роки тому +11

    Wild Arms 2 is on my top ten games list. Can replay that game endlessly.

    • @MiamiSunrise
      @MiamiSunrise 4 роки тому +2

      The music is fantastic in that game, better than I could have expected IMO. Also, the way the text boxes show up on screen reminds me of Suikoden so at times I felt like I was playing a Suikoden game when talking between characters. There is so much to like. It deserves to be in that top 10.

    • @hendribadaya8814
      @hendribadaya8814 3 роки тому

      I prefer wild arms 1/alter code f than wild arms 2 because in wild arms 1 we get to know the enemies better while in wild arms 2 they have too many enemy factions odessa turn out just irving pawn and the real threat is natural phenomenon that want to merge worlds and the last battle is scripted battle against lord blaze kind of suck imo

  • @d-apps2699
    @d-apps2699 4 роки тому +3

    OMG Erick, another amazing ranking video, keep it up! I'll start watching now.

  • @Wintermist-SWE
    @Wintermist-SWE 4 роки тому +1

    Suikoden... oh the memories, if only they'd make PC remakes of them all... the music too, omg

  • @Jason-993
    @Jason-993 2 роки тому +1

    The fact that grandia 1 is not placed above all these is hillarious :D

  • @tino0988
    @tino0988 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to see that your ranked Grandia 3 so high.This Game deserves way more Attention.

  • @kanagawa85
    @kanagawa85 4 роки тому +14

    This is God's work Erick lol

  • @ehellstrom7127
    @ehellstrom7127 4 роки тому +2

    Glad you like the story for Suikoden 3. I won't say it's my favorite, but I do love it!

    • @matsujonen
      @matsujonen 4 роки тому

      Suikoden 3 is one of my favorite it's tied for my third favorite suikoden game

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

  • @bobsamurai
    @bobsamurai 4 роки тому +7

    Hell yea, finally some Grandia 3 love. the game is really under appreciated

    • @AppericateGamer
      @AppericateGamer 4 роки тому

      Didnt you love grandia 3 that much

    • @bobsamurai
      @bobsamurai 4 роки тому +1

      @@AppericateGamer I see it the same way Eric sees it. Story is just ok, but everything else is great.

    • @AppericateGamer
      @AppericateGamer 4 роки тому

      @@bobsamurai okay see what you mean I will admit one of best battle system in jrpg

    • @frankjeaguer3643
      @frankjeaguer3643 4 роки тому

      I just beat it again, it was disappointing to me. The first one was just too good with an excellent story that the other 2 can't compete with.

    • @paulstanley86
      @paulstanley86 4 роки тому

      The story was way too bad. So many issues. Like, spoilers, the mom most likely isn't the main characters mom. Its hinted in the starting town but never followed up on.

  • @sebastianmartinez1843
    @sebastianmartinez1843 4 роки тому +1

    "Wild Arms 2 and 5 in *A* Category Over 1 and 4"
    Chuck: To you see tha Shinji..... i mean Greg

    • @hendribadaya8814
      @hendribadaya8814 3 роки тому

      I have too disagree with Wild arms 5 rank tho, to me the story and characters is too cliches

  • @tomkeeling9165
    @tomkeeling9165 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! I remember playing Grandia as a teenager and loved it

  • @AppericateGamer
    @AppericateGamer 4 роки тому +20

    i would like see Ranking of Xenosaga , Breath of Fire series

    • @almightycinder
      @almightycinder 4 роки тому +1

      He did Tales

    • @indigowendigo8165
      @indigowendigo8165 4 роки тому

      I agree with Breath of Fire.

    • @projectmessiah
      @projectmessiah 4 роки тому

      He already did breath of fire along with 2 others
      Edit: valkiriya profile and growlanser

  • @rtarroyo
    @rtarroyo 3 роки тому +1

    I played Wild Arms for the first time last year and I was blown away, specially because of the ost, definitely an A for me, Grandia II is also an A for me

  • @MiamiSunrise
    @MiamiSunrise 4 роки тому +7

    This is exactly what I would have done, with only Grandia 1 being put on A tier. These are always fun videos

  • @CJRH1FILMS
    @CJRH1FILMS 4 роки тому +2

    Grandia 2 I'm pretty sure was built for Dreamcast. I remember playing on dreamcast with no lag or issues. Eventually it was ported to PS2 and thats when lag, freezing and bugs started to occur. Its unfortunate because no one can truly enjoy it now in all its glory ( unless they properly patch the switch version )

  • @guruthosamarthruin4459
    @guruthosamarthruin4459 4 роки тому +2

    Hold on. I have to agree that some aspects of Grandia 3 are superior to Grandia 2 (graphics and gameplay)...but MUSIC!? Grandia 3's soundtrack was so lackluster, that my literal reaction when I first played it was "why the hell did they replace Iwadare!?"
    It literally did not even occur to me that it could still be him, because I didn't think he was capable of a sub-par soundtrack. Grandia 2's soundtrack, on the other hand, is AMAZING.

    • @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398
      @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398 4 роки тому

      Music is kinda subjective i rather put that away if i review the game but some of music in grandia 3 is banget tho

  • @johntracy72
    @johntracy72 4 роки тому +2

    The Wild Arms series is western steampunk.

  • @mathewgallet8177
    @mathewgallet8177 4 роки тому +9

    "So I'm gonna put grandia 2 on B-tier"
    Me: "BULLS***!!!!!!!!!"
    (I'm a little biased, because it was the first game I ever beat lol)

    • @paulstanley86
      @paulstanley86 4 роки тому +1

      No offense I was given grandia 2 to play by a friend. 5 years later I felt bad when I saw it on the shelf so starting playing it to finish it so I could talk with my friend about it...... I had finished it before and apparently blocked it from my memory, the whole time I was like oh this is where I stopped, no here, here maybe, is this the final boss, ohhhhh.

    • @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398
      @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398 4 роки тому

      Well i don't mind what he put G1 and G2 tier but when he put G3 in higher tier than 1 and 2. BLASPHEMY

    • @paulstanley86
      @paulstanley86 4 роки тому

      @@mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398 g3 suffered so much from writing that I was actually glad when I finished cause it ment no more suffering for me. Tempted to remake in rpg maker but the fighting system was good.

    • @FredMaverik
      @FredMaverik 4 роки тому

      @@paulstanley86 yeah, because you would definetely make the game better in fucking rpg maker....

  • @einfachich5637
    @einfachich5637 4 роки тому +3

    We need a remake of Suikoden 1 and 2, similiar to FF7

    • @SeventhheavenDK
      @SeventhheavenDK 4 роки тому

      No if they are going to change the story and add eternal fillers just to achieve the " expected hours" quota.

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому +1

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

    • @einfachich5637
      @einfachich5637 4 роки тому

      @@zchali Ah thats good to hear. I just checked the website and the graphics look like octopath traveler which i didnt enjoy. The game can still be good though. Now we just have to wait 2 years for the release and hope its not an epic games exclusive.

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому

      @@einfachich5637 It's been certainly inspired by OPT but the main DNA is clearly Suikoden. =)

  • @gastonabt4203
    @gastonabt4203 4 роки тому +2

    Suikoden might get a spiritual succesor, that whould be awesome.

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому +1

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

  • @darthred3400
    @darthred3400 4 роки тому +3

    Wild Arms XF is a real masterpiece. Excellent music. Great and very long story. Excellent battle system (pretty well balanced in my opinion). Good visuals. And of course... Weissheit ! DO NOT MISS IT !!!

    • @marivelarmitage5244
      @marivelarmitage5244 4 роки тому

      I see you're the man who plunder into the future

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому

      I used to have the exact same opinion until I played disgaea lol. I was like “oh, so this how you actually have fun with tactics rpg”

  • @Agostoic
    @Agostoic 4 роки тому +2

    Hey Erick, moar tier lists. Totally digging these vids!

  • @Iavasechui
    @Iavasechui 4 роки тому +1

    The only real complaint I have about the remake of Wild ARMs 1 (the remake not the orignal) is that it brought back mp but didn't bring back mp restore items XD

    • @rainehappy7097
      @rainehappy7097 4 роки тому

      Don't you recover by defending, or was that in the second one?

  • @killerkevsfromouterspace4479
    @killerkevsfromouterspace4479 4 роки тому +1

    New to your channel and I really like your content. Subscribed. I think Suikoden 4 is pretty underrated. And it took me much longer to finish it!!! (Probably because i was navigating those open seas for so flipping long!). Wild Arms is one of my favorite series and I played the first three in order. The first is one of my favorite games ever. 2 was a bit of a disappointment and 3 is as good or better than the first one. May I ask you do this for the Legend of Legaia series? I know it's only two games but the first on was my favorite game ever until I played Dragon Quest XI.

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

  • @Patch_duress
    @Patch_duress 4 роки тому +1

    Another video idea! How about rating all the remakes/remastered JRPG games?

  • @Iavasechui
    @Iavasechui 4 роки тому +1

    For me Wild ARMs 3 is incredibly special to me cause I played a demo of a game at walmart and absolutely loved it but I didn't have a ps2 at the time so I didn't really remember then name but I was amazed by it at the time. Come me getting into the wild arms series later I fell in love with wild arms 1 and found out it had a sequel I had to get it so I got WA3 (XD didn't get 2 untill waaaaay later) and when I did the intro sections I realized that this was that demo game I had been trying to identify for years.

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому

      That must have been so satisfying!

    • @Iavasechui
      @Iavasechui 4 роки тому +1

      @@laecorte XD Very much so!

  • @thenerderrant4293
    @thenerderrant4293 4 роки тому +8

    Suggestion for another rank video, all Monolithsoft games (perhaps even Xenogears).

  • @FlikViktor
    @FlikViktor 4 роки тому +4

    How are you feeling about Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes?

  • @DaVe40959
    @DaVe40959 4 роки тому +14

    Grandia 1 for me is the best grandia by far, grandia 2 are so overated too short 25h no side quest, too easy.

    • @frankjeaguer3643
      @frankjeaguer3643 4 роки тому +3

      Grandia was just too good. Probably my favorite rpg for ps1. Best story unique fighting style, just love it.

    • @David_Alvarez77
      @David_Alvarez77 4 роки тому +4

      Definitely agree. Grandia 1 was by far a more enjoyable experience than 2.

    • @zacharyhutchens
      @zacharyhutchens 4 роки тому +5

      @@frankjeaguer3643 Grandia 1 is far better than any of the Suikoden Games... ive watched some of these tier lists before but... this is wrong.

    • @frankjeaguer3643
      @frankjeaguer3643 4 роки тому +2

      @@zacharyhutchens absolutely, grandia is one of the greatest games ever made( the 2&3 not so much) I think it was better than FF games. It's story and gameplay is just so original and I don't think the creators realized just how special a game they created.

    • @zacharyhutchens
      @zacharyhutchens 4 роки тому +1

      @@frankjeaguer3643 I dont know if i could agree any harder with the statement you made.

  • @oscarcortinar2495
    @oscarcortinar2495 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video! These three series of games are one of my favorites! For these ones I started playing JRPGs ,I want to have more of them. Hoping that we can get succesors anyway possible even if they are not from the same company. Like the new kickstarter from creators of suikoden.

  • @mastenbroekelson8186
    @mastenbroekelson8186 4 роки тому +2

    love Wild ARMs 5 because of Avril.

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому +1

      I love her, she’s my second favorite! But (unpopular opinion alert) Carol is my first

    • @jeffjackson9679
      @jeffjackson9679 4 роки тому +1

      @@laecorte Ha. I actually liked Carol too. A lot of people shit on her, but she can be useful if you know how to use her in the game.

  • @nurizkaf96
    @nurizkaf96 4 роки тому +1

    Finally someone put Grandia III on respectable place. (Okay Erick you got my fully trust and respect now) 🥰

  • @DavidPrattCampaign
    @DavidPrattCampaign 4 роки тому +1

    Hey!! Have you heard about the Kickstarter for Eiyuden Chronicle, a new game by the Suikoden team?

  • @laecorte
    @laecorte 4 роки тому +2

    I think WA4 gets a lot of undeserved hate! It’s such a great game, I was so sad to see it below WA3 lol. It doesn’t have any recycled dungeon and each one of them has an amazing immersive atmosphere, as well as the catchiest soundtrack (look for “ghost of knights”, “the shining spear pierces the darkness” and “time and rocks piled up”). The world map is a plus too, since the game is not filled with a vast emptiness and the short travels positively simplified the quest to find all the treasures in the game (which couldn’t be more tedious and frustrating in WA3, ACF and 5). The characters’ development and charisma sure are hard to digest (specially from the antagonists), but all of them get to have their own personalities and specialized fighting style, which quite honestly wasn’t WA5’s strong suit with the medium system (not to mention the hex system was more balanced than in WA5). As for the story, there really isn’t anything special about it, but it is kind of interesting that they heavily approached on politics in a game where the protagonist is a kid if you ask me. Lastly, the progression isn’t nearly as slow as in WA3 or unnecessarily extensive as in WA5. There’s no way you’ll get bored by playing it.

  • @PS1Fan1991
    @PS1Fan1991 4 роки тому +1

    I respect your opinion. Mine is different, but each player has their own preferences.

  • @HoobriBoobri
    @HoobriBoobri 4 роки тому +1

    Wow
    Surprisingly helpful video. Videos like this will be interesting too. thank

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

  • @bradya527
    @bradya527 4 роки тому

    If anybody is interested the creators of suikoden 1 and 2 are making a spiritual successor in the game called “Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes”.. it’s live on Kickstarter for another week

  • @kevinkellis9002
    @kevinkellis9002 4 роки тому +1

    This guy has great taste in games

  • @norwingmartinez4683
    @norwingmartinez4683 4 роки тому +1

    Good job

  • @luffy_eiru
    @luffy_eiru 4 роки тому +1

    Uncle Erick you da man...

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 4 роки тому

    Yaaay! Really cool to feel validated with some of my video game purchase choices lmao.
    I only have Wild Arms 3 and Suikoden III. I'm looking forward to beating them!

  • @rodrigonavarro5289
    @rodrigonavarro5289 4 роки тому +2

    Amazing games, great video

  • @civoreb
    @civoreb 4 роки тому +5

    Anyone saying Suikoden 2 is not a masterpiece......I will fight you lol

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому +1

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому +2

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

    • @korysoftout219
      @korysoftout219 4 роки тому

      The translation/localization was absolutely terrible, though. I have several friends who just couldn't see the game for what it truly was specifically because of that. I'd imaging there are a lot of people who were like that. You can't really say the "story is good" when english-only speakers/readers play the english version of the game, considering what a butchered mess everything was. I love Suikoden II, personally (though I like V more) but not many people I know would call it a masterpiece by any stretch

  • @SuiteLifeofDioBrando
    @SuiteLifeofDioBrando 4 роки тому +3

    I need to try these series eventually.

  • @travv88
    @travv88 2 роки тому

    Interesting how much nostalgia plays into this.

  • @frankjeaguer3643
    @frankjeaguer3643 4 роки тому +2

    The first grandia is the best, and the 2nd suikoden is the best. Haven't played the wild arms ones.

    • @anggerhijr9589
      @anggerhijr9589 4 роки тому

      first wild arms is the best the rest are mediocre,

  • @leadintea
    @leadintea 4 роки тому +1

    I see where you're coming from with Wild ARMs XF, but I personally loved it! I liked the difficulty and, unlike many other SRPGs, actually had varied objectives to complete maps rather than just being a 'Defeat all enemies' type of game from beginning to end.

  • @1992crimsonnoble
    @1992crimsonnoble 4 роки тому +6

    no way G3 would surpass G2, but good to see Grandia getting some attention

    • @HattaTHEZulZILLA86
      @HattaTHEZulZILLA86 4 роки тому +1

      They haven't made G3 yet, it doesn't exist.
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      At least, that's what I want to believe...

  • @MrRPGcrazy
    @MrRPGcrazy 4 роки тому

    My ranking of the Wild Arms games might be alittle unfair because I have only played them once and it was 10+ years ago.
    S: Suikoden 2, Suikoden 5, Grandia 2
    A: Suikoden 1, Suikoden 3, Grandia 1
    B:
    C: Wild Arms 2, Wild Arms 5, Wild Arms 3, Grandia 3, Suikoden 4
    D: Wild Arms 1
    E: Wild Arms 4

  • @rebbur12
    @rebbur12 4 роки тому +1

    Wild Arms 5 is my favorite game out of the Wild Arms series. I even still have the special edition artbook that came with the game.

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому

      Its art is the most beautiful from all the titles

    • @ominousflames14
      @ominousflames14 4 роки тому

      I really enjoyed the game.. One part I think he missed out on this game is the music track. I think with the story and the music in this game, the villians and the ending really brings out emotion to this game.

    • @jeffjackson9679
      @jeffjackson9679 4 роки тому

      Hold onto the game. They are going for stupid amounts of money on Ebay. Bought my copy years ago for around $30 and now they are selling for well over $100.

  • @chrisgee8441
    @chrisgee8441 4 роки тому

    Yes! Erick you get me! I love Grandia 3. Played em all, but Grandia 3 was my favorite.

  • @belfosama
    @belfosama 4 роки тому +2

    Lufia, Golden Sun and Shining Force in the next Video?

    • @rainehappy7097
      @rainehappy7097 4 роки тому

      Would that just be Shining Force or the entire franchise up to the Saturn Era?

    • @belfosama
      @belfosama 4 роки тому

      @@rainehappy7097 Shining Force 1-3, Golden Sun 1-3 and Lufia 1-4.

  • @tornadotornado7250
    @tornadotornado7250 4 роки тому +1

    suikoden 2 is S-TIER
    if only that game has a better graphics and artstyle it will get more attention than FF's
    so the masses can notice

  • @tuanazuremegazouman1996
    @tuanazuremegazouman1996 4 роки тому +1

    Wild arms and suikoden are the best JRPGs in my life of playing video games. The rests are good and ok!

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому

      I used to think WA was the best before playing tales of

    • @tuanazuremegazouman1996
      @tuanazuremegazouman1996 4 роки тому

      @@laecorte I also played some tales of series and they're quite good for me! 😀

  • @psrabe7444
    @psrabe7444 4 роки тому

    I really like the strategy battles in S3. Only game where the strength of your characters is represented in the strategy battles

  • @1989red13bfc
    @1989red13bfc 4 роки тому +1

    Grandia is S class, Suikoden 3 is E for sure, and Wild Arms 2 is def S.

  • @hideknaze
    @hideknaze 3 роки тому

    Suikoden - A
    Suikoden 2 - S
    Suikoden 3 - D
    Suikoden 4 - C
    Suikoden 5 - S
    Suikoden Tactics - A
    Grandia - A
    Grandia 2 - A
    Grandia Xtreme - A
    Grandia 3 - B
    Wild Arms - S
    Wild Arms 2 - A
    Wild Arms 3 - S
    Wild Arms 4 - B
    Wild Arms 5 - A

  • @Decoy_Shark
    @Decoy_Shark 4 роки тому +5

    I couldn't get on with Grandia 3 at all. I've tried it so many times...

    • @paulstanley86
      @paulstanley86 4 роки тому +2

      The writing was soooooo bad. Lots of loose ends and things that never paid off.

    • @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398
      @mochamadcorysaktitriwangsa1398 4 роки тому

      Don't worries me neither. I'm confused why this games is A tier. The story freaking bad and i'm glad they put skippable cutscene or i'm gonna throw my controller everytime alfina speaks. Speaking of the story, i feel like they Rip off some of element/concept from FFX. Communicator is just exclusive summoner and many similiarities with cheesy romance from FFX. And he put FFX B tier smh. Also he praise about the gameplay mechanixs but honestly i tried playing this games and ITS so fricking tedious with galacting bang spamming and absolute zero spam. Tbh gameplay in grandia is the weakest spot so yeah if the story trash then the game is trash

    • @jeffjackson9679
      @jeffjackson9679 4 роки тому

      Same here. The first half of the game was fine, then they get rid of two of the best characters with two characters, one with no personality and one with an annoying personality (Ulf). Plus the game difficulty spikes so high all of a sudden, you can't beat anyone. I even grinded for hours trying to level up my characters, and got nowhere. It's definitely a broken game IMO.

  • @Jordunk
    @Jordunk 4 роки тому

    The thumbnail is beautiful

  • @intheravenday
    @intheravenday 4 роки тому +1

    I bet the next one will have breath of fire!

  • @zchali
    @zchali 4 роки тому

    "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
    A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
    There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

  • @Daniel-Unmeiten
    @Daniel-Unmeiten 2 роки тому

    Yep, suikoden 2 (5 for many others) it's simply the ultimate and number 1 masterpiece of the rpg genre, true rpg gamers know this as a fact.

  • @milanistiindo
    @milanistiindo 4 роки тому

    Since I only played Suikoden Series in this list, I agree with you for all Suikoden rank. Suikoden II and V are masterpiece, but I feel that Suikoden V is less chalenging because of too many overpower characters.

  • @xaviervigil5527
    @xaviervigil5527 4 роки тому

    They say Suikoden Tactics is still part of the canon series as it happened within the timeline of Suikoden 4. However, it does seem different as rather than using runes, you use rune cannons.

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

  • @Patch_duress
    @Patch_duress 4 роки тому

    Nice video! 👍
    Perhaps the next one could be on Star Ocean, Breath of Fire and Phantasy Star?

  • @robinmattheussen2395
    @robinmattheussen2395 3 роки тому

    I'm also a strong defender of Suikoden 1, I feel way too many people skip it and start with the second game. On one hand, I do sort of understand the sentiment because the first and second game do feel very similar to each other (and the second one is arguable the better game), but I still think it would be a real shame to miss out on such a fantastic title. However, I don't agree that its short length is necessarily all that bad. Due to its short length, the story is very fast paced, and the game overall has very little unnecessary elements (except the fight against Neclord, that always seemed a little silly to me). I like the fact that its a lean and mean game. It's also one of the reasons why I think Chrono Trigger is such a fantastic game: it's only 25 hours or so, and contains no superfluous elements. If you don't have that much time to spare, Suikoden 1 is a great game to pick up!

  • @NONICENTURION
    @NONICENTURION 4 роки тому +2

    Grandia 1 is S bro

  • @alithbacalso4507
    @alithbacalso4507 4 роки тому +1

    Suikoden II is S-tier for me, no contest

  • @karawapo
    @karawapo 3 роки тому

    I actually came here expecting some Grandia Parallel Trippers talk! 😂
    I see that you haven't played the game. I did, many years ago, and I found it to be pretty good. 2D, crystal clear graphics, good pixel art, and a combat system involving cards. The game even gets kind of hard. What else could I ask for? I don't know, because I haven't played any other Grandia games lol

  • @javigomez1697
    @javigomez1697 4 роки тому +4

    Grandia & Grandia 2 a B! 😥

    • @Kortrust
      @Kortrust 4 роки тому

      First one- too long/Second one- to short/

  • @marconimartos4931
    @marconimartos4931 4 роки тому

    Erick Landon RPG.. there's a Suikoden successor that's being made in the Kickstarters right now.. have you seen it? It's called Eiyuden Chronicle. I'm a Suikoden series avid fan also.. Murayama sensei is there in the Eiyuden Chronicle too.. :)

  • @FreeJazzEnthusiast
    @FreeJazzEnthusiast 4 роки тому

    I agree with most of this. Suikoden 2 is my favorite game of all time. It has been since I first played it as a kid. I also replay it 100% of the way through almost yearly. I can remember how and when to obtain every character just off the top of my head. HOWEVER, I would personally for sure have put Suikoden 4 in C-tier and place Wild Arms 3 and Grandia 2 in A-tier. Suikoden 4 was by and large my LEAST favorite Suikoden game. Every other game in the series I 100% beat multiple times. I only did that once for Suikoden 4 and even going back to it now I just kinda feel that the combat system is worse then every other game in the series in a pretty instantly noticeable way. I also didn't find myself as engrossed in the world as I would hope. I love big water worlds in theory, but everything else around it was so uninteresting to me, I just end up getting bored halfway through the game. Tierkreis I can understand not being as much of a shining star as the mainline entries, but Suikoden 4 shares a console with 3 and 5, which are worlds better in pretty much every way. Like it's not a BAD GAME, it's just painfully mediocre to me. Meanwhile, Grandia 2 was an amazing time when I played it on Dreamcast as a kid, and about a year ago I decided to play it again and before I knew it, 8 hours had just flashed by. The story and characters with the classic anime voice cast really hits a good spot of nostalgia for me has aged in a good way. Wild Arms 3 was the first game for me in the series that just 100% NAILED the old west aesthetic. It just BLED cowboy legend vibes. Great list though! i'm really glad to see that fellow Suikoden fans in general are popping up with videos now that 100 Heroes got Kickstarted!

  • @Pyangryong
    @Pyangryong 4 роки тому +2

    The Demo for Wild Arms 2 was the first one i ever played. Still havent play the full version yet though.

    • @astevens1919
      @astevens1919 4 роки тому +1

      It’s so good!!

    • @rainehappy7097
      @rainehappy7097 4 роки тому

      It's only 10 bucks on PSN

    • @Pyangryong
      @Pyangryong 4 роки тому

      @@rainehappy7097 yeah ive got it on Digital for PS3, I just havent had a chance to play it yet. I have such a huge back log of Games, but hopefully once i get this Monitor i need for my set up i can start changing that.

  • @boarMcberry
    @boarMcberry 4 роки тому +1

    just fyi, KOEI also released another iteration which is what Suikoden based on, RTS type game called Bandit Kings of Ancient China around 90s for home computers which got ported/remaked later on for Saturn & PS1 I think. I did play this way back then on PC, so I'm curious about your thoughts. ;)
    also, probably should treat Wild Arms Alter Code F as a separate title. Even thought it's a remake from 1st one, whole game itself felt nearly different from original and it also introduces at least 3 more playable characters. WA-ACF kinda takes the best out of previous 3 series and mold it into a much better masterpiece. Just like how Final Fantasy 7 original PS1 version compared with the PS4 remake, that's how Wild Arms 1 compared to Wild Arms Alter Code F.
    Also, kinda sux u played WA series in different order and gave WA3 less favour, if u played like I do way back then in order of release, then u might find WA3 are on much better terms. At least I agree that WA4 is the black sheep of the series. I personally would rank WA series as follows: ACF > 2 > 3 > 5 > 1 > 4. haven't tried XF yet since I don't own PSP.

    • @MiamiSunrise
      @MiamiSunrise 4 роки тому +2

      KOEI made that game initially for the NES in Japan and North America but for years I never knew it was based on the Water Margin like Suikoden titles from Konami were. Bandit Kings of Ancient China is honestly my favorite of all the war simulators that came out back in that time period. I have another friend who is and was an absolute junky for that game, was very satisfying to play despite the slow nature of it. I'm surprised to see someone bring that up as I thought I was one of the few who was aware of that inital game. Thanks for talking about this.

  • @PowerPandaMods
    @PowerPandaMods 3 роки тому

    I feel like with the Grandia series in here, the list should have included Lunar instead of Suikoden. We need SOMETHING to be the bottom tier, and Dragon Song fits that bill!

  • @MrTacticalApproach
    @MrTacticalApproach 4 роки тому +1

    It's blasphemous to put the 1st Wild Arms in just B tier. 😔

  • @indigowendigo8165
    @indigowendigo8165 4 роки тому

    It was hard going from the battle system of 5 and 1? But 1 is so simple like a regular RPG. :p Well, I suppose there's some slight complex stuff... you need a bunch of crest graphs for the magic for Cecilia, there's upgrading the guns for Rudy, finding the hidden sword techniques for Jack, and waiting for the special meter to build up as an extra set of moves, but that's about it. :p
    The rest seems like your standard thing, I might have a harder time understanding this hexagon thing. :p It kind of seems like a matter of avoiding enemy attacks and hitting them from the sides and back though... if it's a lot more complicated than that though, I'm not sure where I'd start. :(

  • @badassoverlordzetta
    @badassoverlordzetta 4 роки тому

    Grandia 1's placement is criminally low. That game was contemporary to FF7 and was the first bold steps towards voice acting in a JRPG and the de-emphasis on leveling in favor of character growth based on in game choices was elegant and engaging.
    Other than that I think the rest of the placements make good sense. Tierkries might be a bit high, and it's a bold choice to say Suiko 5 can stand on the same level as 2 given their fandom (though I agree).

  • @thevdevalcryon
    @thevdevalcryon 4 роки тому +2

    Suikoden 2 is SS Tier, Wild Arms 2 & Suikoden 5 are S tier. There i fixed it. 😂

  • @danhalo1405
    @danhalo1405 3 роки тому

    Grandia 1 and 2 only B tier thats is a crime in my opinion :P . Especially Grandia 1 is still one of my favorite if not my absolute favorite JRPG of all times

  • @LeilaRWilson
    @LeilaRWilson 4 роки тому

    Three fantastic (my 3 fav!) series' in one video? Sign me up!

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому +1

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

    • @LeilaRWilson
      @LeilaRWilson 4 роки тому +1

      @@mohamedal-bahrani693 Thanks!! :D I backed it! :D Can't wait for Eiyuden!!!

  • @markwaty1
    @markwaty1 4 роки тому +1

    Does this guy know that there is a spirit successor to Suikoden by the name of Eiyuden Chronicles being made by the Suikoden Creator himself?

    • @marcofernandezgonzalez2760
      @marcofernandezgonzalez2760 4 роки тому +1

      He very well knows having been (too much?) hyped when it has been announced... Let's hope Eiyuden Chronicles will not suffer from the "mighty n°9 syndroma"

  • @Roger3eme
    @Roger3eme 4 роки тому

    I also loved Suikoden 4 a lot.

  • @Moon-rune
    @Moon-rune 4 роки тому +2

    wild arms xf is the hardest of the serie and you need to grind a LOT

    • @sorrowinthewind4258
      @sorrowinthewind4258 4 роки тому

      Really? I didn't grind at all, it was all about picking the right strats

    • @Moon-rune
      @Moon-rune 4 роки тому

      @@sorrowinthewind4258 well maybe you handle that stuff better than i do but i needed to grind to get things right in some maps

  • @jonnycoyote2782
    @jonnycoyote2782 4 роки тому

    I can wait for my grandia collection from limited run games to arrive

  • @toolman4745
    @toolman4745 3 роки тому

    "Only one thing preventing Suikoden from being S Tier"
    Gremio.

  • @Kortrust
    @Kortrust 4 роки тому

    Wild Arms 5 is one of the best JRPG on PS2. It's like Skies of Arcadia if you know what i mean.

  • @geordieb4670
    @geordieb4670 4 роки тому

    Grandia II. Grandia. Grandia III. Grandia Xtreme.. G2 should be A, Millenia made that game so enjoyable and her 'death' was one of the most saddest moments in an RPG game.

  • @lockecole6220
    @lockecole6220 4 роки тому

    I miss these games. I hope they make new grandia or wild arms on ps4/ps5 or switch.

  • @markcarloestabillo5461
    @markcarloestabillo5461 4 роки тому

    At first I didn't like suikoden 3 back then having just finished 2. But as I play on, I loved the story. For me it equals 2.

    • @mohamedal-bahrani693
      @mohamedal-bahrani693 4 роки тому

      There is a spritiual successor on kickstarter by the orignal suikoden creator and other team members. It's called Eiyuden. 6 days left on the campaign

  • @indigowendigo8165
    @indigowendigo8165 4 роки тому

    Aww, Wild Arms 1 and Grandia I are only B, while most Suikodens get A and S? Well, alright I suppose. :p I sort of disagree with Suikoden 3 though, felt a bit more like Wild Arms 3 as being kind of okay around C-B, but it wasn't terrible. :p
    I mean, their at least better to me than the likes of some of the newer Final Fantasy games like XIII, or Tales of Symphonia 2: Dawn of the New World. :p Oh, and Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter... Heck, Wild Arms 3 compared to those games at least is actually something I wouldn't mind playing over again. :p

  • @marcofernandezgonzalez2760
    @marcofernandezgonzalez2760 4 роки тому

    I know Erick loves the Suikoden series but, although not being a bad game, Suikoden IV (as well as Tactics) is not of the same quality as Wild ARMs, Grandia I & II etc...

    • @zchali
      @zchali 4 роки тому

      "NEW" SUIKODEN announced!
      A spiritual successor to Suikoden named Eiyuden Chronicle has been announced. It's being developed by Suikoden veterans including Suikoden creator Yoshitaka Murayama. The soundtrack is going to be composed by Motoi Sakuraba (Golden Sun, Dark Souls) and Michiko Naruke (Wild Arms). The kickstarter is live until 29 August 2020 and very successful (by now $3,3 million): www.kickstarter.com/projects/rabbitandbearstudios/eiyuden-chronicle-hundred-heroes/description
      There is also a new sneak peak online: ua-cam.com/video/W-AJv6LvKFs/v-deo.html

  • @Rhevenant
    @Rhevenant 2 роки тому

    This is almost the same I have them, with the exception being Grandia 2 which I think its an A game....but then again it was my first Grandia game on the dreamcast ✌🏻😬 so I may be biased.

  • @caseyadams2627
    @caseyadams2627 3 роки тому +1

    Grandia a B!? Le gasp!

  • @dandiaz19934
    @dandiaz19934 4 роки тому

    Is there something, if anything, that makes Grandia stand apart from other JRPGs? I've never played any of them.

  • @minhthuc1232003
    @minhthuc1232003 4 роки тому

    Suikoden 2 one of the best JRPG in my list

  • @usaskjock
    @usaskjock 4 роки тому +1

    Um no. Wild arms >>> wild arms 2

    • @laecorte
      @laecorte 4 роки тому

      I second that. WA2 starts way off slow

  • @kimkom5648
    @kimkom5648 3 роки тому

    grandia for a ps1 game is S tier ..with voice over on cut scenes and battle attacks and the sprites in cut scenes even change poses ...