Belle Delphine Reveals All! OnlyFans $$$, Being Cancelled, Regrets, & iDubbbz Simp Backlash & Ep. 45
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00:00 START
03:04 - Graphic Tweet Backlash Discussion
06:19 - Real Life vs Online
09:14 - How Much $$$ To Leave Internet?
12:20 - Why Did you Dropout of School at 13?
14:23 - Facebook Status Cancer Story
19:47 - Getting Cancelled
21:44 - Relationship with Mom & Dad
27:13 - Mom’s reaction to Belle Moving Out
29:03 - Meeting a 25-year-old when you were 15…
33:29 - “I Can’t Believe You Like Me” Mindset
34:49 - Do you have regrets?
40:17 - What does the ideal life look like for you?
44:59 - What’s something that’s changed in your relationship?
48:46 - Why is your partner anonymous?
50:59 - iDubbbz OnlyFans Simp Controversy
53:41 - What would it be like to have a stalker that actually likes you?
57:44 - QUESTION GAME STARTS
59:06 - Cryofreeze after Death
1:04:37 - What is your earliest memory?
1:06:26 - Do you believe in ghosts?
1:10:29 - Comparison to MrBeast
1:13:14 - How does the PDS production work?
1:21:57 - What’s your experience with drugs/drinking?
1:30:55 - What’s your power dynamic like with your partner?
1:33:00 - Shooting For OnlyFans
1:34:39 - Belle Delphine Gives Bad Blowjobs
1:40:23 - If you could give someone advice, what would it be?
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oh hi there. hope you enjoy the podcast while you wait for today's PDS...
P.S. - Matthew Mercer is my next guest and you don't wanna miss it. ;)
Ok looking forward to it
Nice! He's always interesting
Thanks Phil
MATTHEW MERCER IS NEXT???? WHAT!!!!!!! omg. phil. thank you.
also: prepare for the critter onslaught of love.
33:15 I love how Phil is being such a dad in this video. He's being respectful towards her choices/her experiences, but at the same time lowkey asking for a list of names to add to a hit list.
Phil is the internet’s dad
he is also like "thank bimbus I have sons"
@@TatAlbring nah, Phil is our big brother. The green brothers are Dad.
@@chris31795 I figured Rhett and Link are the Dad's of UA-cam
@@TatAlbring When did that happen? Jebus how old am I then? *questions lifes choices*
I really hope she's as happy as she looks today, because holy fuck her past doesn't sound like a fun time. She def made the most of her life and she be proud of herself. Sounds like she didn't have any help whatsoever from her parents.
her patreon made her money but OF MADE her money
Yeah im sure shes 100% honest and not saying anything do put herself in a better light. Women would never do that.
@@kevindagod What other think of you isn't any of your business.
@@kevindagod I do, what I'm saying is in reference to her. Respect and to a lesser extent dignity are of social importance. But there are entirely different reasons that vary between different groups of people to be respected, and some think that this kind of thing is brave and respectable, and most people just don't care. In short, things like respect and dignity are a tad superficial and somewhat subjective. And if it doesn't matter to you personally, or if you think it should matter to someone who is obviously in a mindset to do what they do and do it well, all I can say is, as stated;
"What other people think of you is none of your business."
@@sunnydlite-t8b Unlike men, who never lie, right?
I don't think she realises how much potential she has towards gaining a female audience. I'm guessing her main demo's are guys 18-30?
She's very intelligent, relatable, honest and quirky. If she had more female directed content I'm sure it would take off
Yessss. I wish she realised! I've been really loving her since she first started doing podcasts, I'm bi and I subbed to her OF for a bit but it's too male oriented even for me, and I can usually deal with that to a degree. Besides that, I also think she'd do great on twitch or sth!
Very happy to see that there’s other women who understand & see this.
I really want her to make an updated makeup tutorial! :-3
Bullshit.
For every female that is like “yaaaasss, loving these makeup tutorials” will be 100 others calling her all manner of derogatory names, because they’re
A. Jealous of her attention
B. Jealous that she makes money from simps
C. Worried their boyfriends might be into her
Edit - (Many) Women are quick to shame other women for this line of work, and that level of progressive hasn’t hit mainstream yet.
@@CityStarrzz do you realize lesbian and bisexual women exist?
This is both enlightening and sad.. She tries so hard to be positive, but even her first memory is "I was a baby left alone with scissors"
She is a wannabe fatherless object discord kitten. Too much lifeless fatherless obeese discord moderators are simping for her. How pathetic? I wouldn't want to be their mother...
She is a wannabe fatherless object discord kitten. Too much lifeless fatherless obeese discord moderators are simping for her. How pathetic? I wouldn't want to be their mother...
I literally had no clue what belle delphine sounded like until this podcast...
Same
Same here.
Me either
I heard her once before, was still kinda surprised the hear the British accent
Saaaaame
Hearing her talk about the “emo guys” that were so much older than her was a HUGE deal in the emo scene as a whole. It happened to me personally and other girls around me, just like Belle. Recently people have come forward after realizing that they were groomed and manipulated by men who were so much older but not realizing it at the time because they were LITERAL children.
21:15 + 28:13 + 33:20
For real. I remember in a club I used to go to for an alternative night, there was this weird ass 25 year old goth hanging around 17 year olds like come on dude.
Exactly the same with women tbh I was a 15 year old emo boy and a 23 year old emo chick was in my dms. Now I'm 21 I see how wrong that is.
@@Bananachan289 25 years old and 17 years old? was it the age difference or the fact it was a goth?
YES! I had a friend experience this. The scene/emo/punk scene had so many problematic guys and we didnt realize that it was wrong because we were young teens who just wanted to listen to cool music
I feel so bad for her when she brings up home. You can see it obviously hurt her. I feel like alot of what Belle does is so she can be in control of her sexuality and her body, nobody else. Alot of trauma victims do this. I hope she’s getting the support she needs.
Also I have a suspicion that her dad was much older than her mom ;;
Belle talking to Phil about her childhood, slowly realizing she might need therapy...
31:44 "Now, do you see it as predatory?"
"When I look back at my old experiences... um, it doesn't really, I mean Ineverthinkaboutit... (size 4 font)so uh, yeah"
Big yikes my dude
MIGHT?
@Bernkastel Frederica Ofcourse she doesn't understand. She's 21. Give her 10 more years.
Yes she does. She needs to do it if she wants to be peaceful and happy. But I am not sure she is ready for it because that means accepting to take it a little easier on everything....
Can someone explain what he meant? I'm curious and I'm 20 so
She's only 21, credit to her for being able to handle all that pressure
From this interview, I feel like she "handles" the pressure because the pressure doesn't even resonate with her or feel apparent. She has a kind of spaced-out aloofness about her. Like Forrest Gump in Vietnam...he wasn't all that personally traumatised because he was only partially aware of what was happening around him.
I didn't realize she was 21. Given, I don't really know too much about her besides all of her controversies, but I still commend her for having thick skin and being able to handle the pressure. It's a lot. I just hope she's happy with her career.
@@danepotmo2513 brilliant comment.
Damn, I thought she still was 19 for some reason. Can't imagine how she doesn't show signs of depression/extreme stress after everything she has done.
That poor thing☹️ never had the chance to get a normal underpayed job☹️☹️☹️
I didn't expect to relate to Belle so much, but when she talks about realizing her mom didn't care where she was, I felt that. I used to disappear for days as teen and got into alot of questionable situations only to return home and have no one even notice. Also your comment about these realizations abused kids have as adults. People love to say "Oh I get my parents more now that I am one" but personally becoming a parent just made me wonder what the hell was wrong with mine.
I completely agree. I’m not even a parent yet, just a young adult and I’m already looking back and being like “what the fuck”, although I’m from the opposite end of the spectrum with intensely helicoptery tigery achievement obsessed parents lol
Ditto. My mom ditched emotionally around the time I started developing a personality and stopped being dependent on her.
I’m sorry you had to go through that, keep your head up, I hope you’ll have a great life going forward ❤️
The realization that winging it was the gameplan... I'm not sure I want to have kids just knowing the importance of shaping another's world.
Im sorry, I hope ur doing better now, if it makes u feel better, its kinda the opposite for me, my parents are soo over-fricking-protective, I’m not even allowed to go out of my house on my own I’m 13 ☹️
you humanized her. thank you. i feel really bad for her cuz clearly she’s got issues and had a harsh upbringing. granted she’s rich now but still
Being rich doesn't make your personal issues magically go away. ;)
yeah who tf cares if she’s rich lol
@@Quotenwagnerianer A majority of people like to cry in a Mercedes-Benz then a Honda Civic. Or to get away from a 9-5 job, full time job. She’s is her own greatest enemy.
@Joel Roy money'd solve all of mine
@Joel Roy ok give me money ill show you
I will probably never join a Belle Delphine membership but I love to listen to her talk. She's actually a very charming person to me. Maybe her retirement thing could actually be making her own podcast
That’s how I feel also, not interested in her sex work content but I respect that she seems fulfilled and would love to one day see more of her from this perspective where it showcases more than just how beautiful she is.
I find her a very interesting person, but I don't watch her stuff pretty much ever. I love watching podcasts with her though.
her voice its very ammmmm *anime* hen ta i
She acted like a squid was her friend, but ok then...
Same. I don’t wanna be a simp or pay for the character she puts on social media. I wanna keep the some self respect I have left. I’m way more intrigued by listening to her speak normally and her backstory to which brought her to this point. Her story explains why she likes the attention, as in her childhood she didn’t get enough attention. No loving parents and no real friends. She was always trying to get attention and then she figured out the best way to get attention. Through social media.
Am I the only one who got chills when she was talking about her childhood? Seeing her trying to cover it up with a laugh was so heartbreaking, I hope she’s happier.
I mean as someone who was raised by an alcoholic neglectful mom the things that are funny to me about my childhood (like that time mom spilled her vodka on me when she was lost while driving) that I still laugh about but can now acknowledge "oh my childhood was fucked up, actually"
Dude tbh she’s always been an enigma to me and I’ve always heard about her controversies but never paid much attention besides she’s cute, but seeing this deeper side and honestly related from my childhood, from my upbringing, shit was gonna make me mf cry. Wow. She’s only a year older than me and it’s astonishing. So happy Father Philly did this interview, was so heartwarming but also heartbreaking to understand the pain she was describing about the loneliness and neglect. I truly do hope she’s happier.
@@probablypragmatic6893 I’m sorry you went through that, I feel like a lot of people use comedy as a coping mechanism but it’s important to talk about these things to people you trust. Stay safe and well ❤️
@@JACk79457 I’m so sorry that you can relate to the trauma she has gone through, and it is upsetting to see just how many people can relate to her. You’re still young and you have so much more to experience ahead of you, I hope that you can live life to the fullest regardless of your upbringing. Best of luck for the future ❤️
Same here
when she was talking about how she and other young girls would just think “I can’t believe you like me” & I’m thinking that’s exactly the mindset these 25 year old predators are preying on 14 year old girls for. Its so messed up & I wish more young girls could see this is not normal or a compliment.
And the way she says she cheated on her boyfriend when she was 13 and a 30 year old man kissed her... Girl no. You were not responsible. You were preyed on
FINALLY!! SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS TRUTH
Didn’t she sell photos of another underage girl without her consent?
@@raquellynn2206 Yep
@@raquellynn2206 Technically the girl was not underage for most of the photos, but Belle was underage at the time she sold, plus another girl has come forward that was underage allegedly saying her photos were in there as well.
Am i the only one that never had any real issues with her? She's just a girl on the internet and we are the one that give her her power/influence.
Me as well. When I see some major dramas online I don't judge people and don't pick sides as it's always more complicated than black and white. The controversies made me look into her content which I really enjoy (I am woman) and I am definitely her target audience. While I have been slightly biased by it, I have always been curious about her as person and I am really glad that I got to learn about her.Good ad for her only fans
for me it's just like "yeah, what she puts up (for free) is mostly annoying, but i don't have to watch it. and it doesn't hurt other people, so why should i bother?"
i looked up what i could find (on here and on a certain other hub... she's actually nice enough to post her own OF-leaks if anyone cares) and realised i'm going to avoid her. i'm avoiding pewdiepie as well, but that doesn't mean i have to go around talking about how i don't like his stuff. (and i think the mainstream media are really stupid in their ways with him)
i think the internet really demonized her,
made her look like some e-sl//t because of what she did. most people only dislike her because of what the internet made her out to be, or because they just dislike her in general. there’s really nothing wrong with her, she may upset some people with the things she posts but at the end of the day it’s what she wants to post, and like you said, we’re the ones giving her the attention anyway.
Is it that bad around her? I don't follow her news tbh. I get that she's controversial and many people wouldn't like her but it's the internet. I've always seen her as extremely clever at marketing herself.
pretty much. she embraced the memery of the "gamer girl" persona and ofc the whole lewd/NSFW cosplay thing
This girls self awareness is so much higher than most people twice her age.
Truth
she is so freaking clueless it's sad.
@@aBanabis lmao how
@@cgijokerman5787 the red flags? Her story about the facebook post is intentionally vague, and her parents are nonexistent. she has no one in her life except for her anonymous "partner" father figure, who literally controls her life.
@@aBanabis She's a self-made multi-millionairess at 21. I'm basically broke at 33. She makes more money per month than I've made in my whole life. If she's clueless, what the FUCK am I? She will probably have $100 million by the time she's my age. I will be lucky if I'm not drowning in debt.
Phil defranco has become the millenial Larry king.
DeFranco taking up King's mantel
Just in time too
We just need Phil to piss off Jerry Seinfeld somehow and the passing of the crown shall be complete.
He Has! And his hairline is receding even faster! Hahahahahahahahahaha.......... .......BURN
Cheers Phil
#FanForLife
what a good looking statement
I’m glad she put it in those words at the end.. people don’t realize that so many girls try to start a OF and don;t make good enough money to sustain it, but then destroy other job ops because of the stigma.
i dont get why theres such a stigma
@@EvanCops you don’t get why there’s a stigma to people prostituting themselves online?
@@THEmongo0se no
@@THEmongo0se Yes? Like why is it so taboo for a woman to make money off her body? Why is prostitution illegal? Why do ppl care so much (mainly men) what women do with their bodies? You sound like Puritan... Who died out 500 years ago. Grow up. Just because she won't sleep with you doesn't mean she can't sleep with anyone.
@@jareddauer4015 chill bro, apologies for triggering you. I believe women have the right to do with their bodies as they please but in the same way I have a right to judge them on doing so. Actions have consequences.
I was not expecting her current interest to be metal detectors.
LMFOOAOAAOOAOO
I'm glad that this interview is allowing more people to realize that Belle is actually a really smart and charming girl with incredible marketing and branding instincts, instead of just her controversial internet character.
Realizing as an adult that your parents were shitty parents and literally didn't care for you or what happened to you hits you like a ton of bricks and literally breaks your heart like they "literally didn't care" and that is f***d
going through that right now but intend on comin out strong ;)
100%. I used to think it was so cool when my mum wouldn’t call me to see where I was and stuff. But damn. It hurts now.
Therapy is basically a necessity because hooooly shit.
Going to your friends house and they have this pretty “perfect” life, and at one point you can’t relate to them anymore and they don’t understand you at all. In your 20 you don’t feel like an adult but you get to see yourself as the child you ware and how adults treated you opened to how you would treat a child your age
I am in my 30s....and a few years ago back at my exes parents, seeing her family interact it hit me how less of a fuck my parents gave.
I allways played it down like " meh, other people have shit parents as well" and most of the people i assciated myself with were as fucked up as i was, so even then i didnt notice....
But her family man...they were so nice and in caring that i wanted to smash something. It just made me realize how shitty my childhood was.
@@Ben-Doverbich yuuup
Anyone else see the protective dad mode in Phil or is that just me
They were chillen at first.. but right after the 14-year-old and 25-year-old comment, I feel like the Dad twitch got flipped on for the rest of the interview. I appreciated that.
@@katrinashaw2195 then u find out, that's kinda guy she's looking for 😳
Is not that he try to hit that thats called smooth tall to get in the girls panties he try to get on those panties 😏 trust me
@@mmeehan12 Chill, she doesn't look at him like that at all, he doesn't look at her like that either, he talked to her in a parental tone after he heard a bit of her past relationships when she was honestly too young for the guys.
@@katrinashaw2195 he would fill her up first trust me
what astonishes me the most is how real she seems outside of her displayed persona. i don't really care for the belle delphine phenomenon one way or the other, but i really, really like her in interviews. she seems just like a decent, human being.
And contrary to what I would expect given her internet use and presence, Disconnected from modernism. Rarely uses her phone? Wants a farm in the country? Mad respect.
Phil trying to suppress the dad to have a conversation with a young person like a normal human is an interesting conflict to listen to. Elder millennials so worried about belle at the start then realizing how she really is figuring it out as a very young lady.
I may be alone in this but,...
Am I the only person that found Belle Delphine by the controversy, but just genuinely like her as a person now?
I'm there with ya, This just shows how much other peoples opinions mean almost nothing... I couldn't imagine watching this and not having some level of respect for her decisions!
I hadn't even heard of her until sh0eonhead copied her goofy expression for a thumbnail, then shortly afterward all this controversy began. I wouldn't have even given a second thought if Philip hadn't brought her on his podcast.
I personally experienced her sort of childhood, and then known plenty in similar circumstances since then.
Seeing her still being so optimistic gives me hope, for myself and comrades, constantly struggling to have a future.
well, to me she just was a successful businesswoman doing excellent marketing
when i first heard about her because of the gamer girl bathwater, i was like "that's stupid, but if people buy it, who am i to judge HER, it's the people who it who are the issue"
i thought of her having psychopathic tendencies, similar to most successful businesspeople, but i guess she's less malicious than i thought
Yeah honestly I’m glad I watched this because I would still think of her that person in the controversies.
😬 I'm conflicted
It was kinda sad when she started talking about how she would look at others internet personnalities and get the feeling that everyone liked them, versus how there is a lot of people hating her for who she is and what she does. But I feel like watching this podcast, I have a lot more respect towards her. Before, I only knew her from her controversies and twitter posts, now there is a personality and background behind that face, and it changed my perception of her
@@notatoxicgamingchannel7969 It's as if you didn't watch the video. Or don't recognize that a childhood filled with physical, sexual, emotional and social abuse and emotional compartmentalization might lead to some poor decision making.
@toxic gamer girl
not you trying to draw some weird comparisons between serial killers and a online s*x worker 💀 any bad Belle has done is orders of magnitudes less worse
@@notatoxicgamingchannel7969 The "loli" kink does not promote ped. content, It's more of a "petite" subgenre I guess. She's an adult selling adult fantasies to adults, it's nothing more than that. Giving a meaning behind her work and blaming her for what you believe she promotes is entirely on you, and she shouldn't have to apologize for something you made her up to be. Since you like comparison, it's like like blaming a victim of sexual assault by saying "if she wouldn't dress like a slut, she would not have been assaulted" or saying that videogames is responsible for violence
This is only business, where no one is hurt, give it a rest.
@@notatoxicgamingchannel7969 on the spectrum of people who fetishize the ideas of being younger she's not close to actually doing so, I'd say the people doing "diaper" stuff is MUCH closer to crossing that tangible line than her. There's a connotation that any expression of cuteness is to appear child like that is just patently false and makes the dumbest line between child and adult possible. She's no where near the "loli" baiter that she's made out to be, even though uwu anime aesthetics do come from places where a lot of weird fetishization happens
Calling what she does unforgivable is like taking the most extreme stance and making it seem like she stands for anything close to that. Her bondage pics weren't snuff and are a dime a dozen for other only fans creators.
I sometimes wonder if belle is the kind of cringe culture fan that thinks you can joke about anything and just be like "its a prank bro" or if she's self aware enough to have a healthy enjoyment of it, but that's far from the worst thing ever
I was in the same boat as you. Truly. I felt that loneliness and neglect she spoke of. It was like talking to my siblings. I just wanna hug her now :(
when she's talking about her childhood, and how school impacted her negatively, and her home life too, and her relationship with her parents and romantic partners she had at an early age - I relate and felt every word. that shit cut deep, I didn't know much about belle but honestly wishing her nothing but the best.
She seems happy now but damn, I hope this girl is seeing a therapist.
Therapists don't work - a lot of the time. It's not necessarily the "answer"
@@nicj5354 any science-based therapy (such as cbt) is a good idea for nearly anyone. But it's true that traditional talk therapy has questionable benefit.
do not like
@@nicj5354 tf 😂😂
She's really right about that emo scene thing, I had multiple older men interested in me from the age of 13. My first boyfriend was 17 at 13, and my second was 20 at 14.
I also dropped out of school at 14, and my attendance was incredibly bad. It's really strange how much I can genuinely relate to her story.
Hopefully you relate to a million $ a month as well :)
@@DanKaschel LOL
That’s actually disgusting what does a 14yr and a 20yr have in common
It's a bad idea for both parties and will never work out long term, those kind of things should be avoided or kept to a one night stand but these americans getting outraged by what is legal in a lot of europe makes me kek. Calm down American, we know you cut babies peepees for "aesthetics" yet are totally scared of nudity but you know teenagers are not children and tend to like the same men sexually all women do. Its young lady for a reason. The trouble comes from emotionally relationship involvement and that is why serbian law says you can hook up but not live together till 18, its smart and rational regarding actual human biology and desires. Reminds me of how you can't even drink till 21 in USA kek.
@@wucash5672 it's not only illegal in America, in majority of europe and asia it's just as wrong and illegal.
In America there is just much bigger public outrage about it.
it's not okay to have a one night stand with a 13 or 14 year old, how sick in your head are you?
Holy hell that was a rollercoaster and a damn good interview.
I learned a lot about someone I knew basically nothing about and had a lot to think about throughout the life story, as some of those stories resonated with me and some were from a perspective I haven't heard from before.
I enjoyed seeing this chat and hope you both have a good one!
Phil realizing throughout the interview that Belle has a lot of unresolved trauma and needs therapy real bad 🤯😳
I think everything she's does is self healing to her tbf.. but I know what you mean.
@@moodswinggaming2972 you don't just "self-heal" that kind of shit. Or if you do you'll end up with some real nasty scars.
@@DanKaschel beg to differ as someone who has gone through similar and is married to someone who was sexually assaulted by a member of her family for years as a child, you cannot just make a sweeping statement though, which goes for both of us. Everyone is different.
That whole '25 year old men dating 14 year olds' in the emo scene was totally a thing outside the UK. It's come out years later that it was a big thing in America and kinda most places the emo scene had any prominence. Absolutely disgusting. So horrible hearing that on top of all the crap she had going on at home, she was also a part of that toxic community. Had no idea that was her background tbh
It's something I totally forgot about, since I'm a guy that while I was a part of that culture I wasn't that deeply engrained in it. But thinking back...all of the girls in my circles have a similar story, or at least told a similar story. Makes me really sad honestly.
And then she went and spread that toxicity by capitalizing on human misery. I dunno why people are "proud" of her
@@DarkWandererAU What do you mean?
@@coleG112 What do you mean what do I mean? She is the biggest onlyfans money maker in the world & sold her bath water online. Capitalizing on the loneliness and misery of others in a pretty gross way. She's pushing what she learned while being brought up in a toxic community, just spreading it around
@@DarkWandererAU I never said I was proud of her? Just that what happened to her was horrible and unfortunately quite prevalent at the time
"It's me again, interrupting myself" is such a mood
Without the pink wig and makeup - there's no way I'd recognize her in the streets
so that's how she goes incognito day to day
Probably why theres more guys that dont do a face reveal compared to girls.
I doubt you'd see her in the streets at all considering she doesn't go out much 😂
Hannah Montana
She’s seems like a lovely person who unfortunately had a difficult upbringing. If she ever wanted to step out of adult entertainment and start twitch streaming I think she could still do really well just with her personality alone :)
Totally agree.
Belle not willing to date someone who drinks is a mood and I'm kind of glad seeing someone still be like that so.I don't feel hopeless
This is an episode i didn’t think would ever happen lol
RIGHT?!?!?! I actually had to do a double take at the thumbnail. Lol
69 likes. *nice*
As someone who grew up in the emo/scene, warped tour, skater style groups in America I can say first hand it is extremely common to see grown ass men with girls as young as 12/13 or extreme age gaps in couples and it’s still extremely common even today. I’m 23 years old now and started hanging out with much older people both male and female at 12. Not saying everyone in those groups are that way, I’ve met plenty that were not that way, but it’s is very much a thing here in America as well. A lot (not all) of the younger people in those scenes, from my experience are struggling in some aspect of their lives and are very easy to manipulate. I’m glad she talked about it and Phil questioned it cause no one really does.
I've heard stories about stuff like that, from a friend of mine. She was a teen hanging around with 30-40 year olds. Drinking and doing drugs. It all seemed very suspicious and she didn't even really question it until I pointed out how odd it was.
At the same time, I dated a teen when I was 21. It wasn't part of any scene and was never my plan to date someone younger. We simple hung out in the same chat rooms, became friends and eventually developed feelings for each other. Eventually the age gap seemed to be the 1 con vs a huge list of pros, so we went for it. When everything fits except age, then it suddenly seems less important. Like Belle, I spent most of my time online, since a shitty home life left my social skills lacking. So, the odds of me finding someone cool, closer to my age was pretty low, in my books. We never drank or did drugs. I never abused or manipulated her. I wasn't some kind of predator, looking for young girls. I was just happenstance and we dated for 5 years.
I've learned that this is quite common, and most woman I know started dating in their teens, while most men i know started dating in their 20's. Girls go for older guys and guys don't see action until they are older. If guys have to wait until they are in their 20's to date, then they are just waiting their turn in a cycle that keeps on going. It's just how it is, and the choices of young girls are contributing factor to that.
@@davidvondoom2853 I think the thing about large age gap pairings isn't that the relationship is always abusive, it's that there's tremendous potential for manipulation (intentional or otherwise). Not dissimilar from a famous person dating a fan, a teacher dating their student, or a boss dating their subordinate.
@@davidvondoom2853 I’m currently in a 6 year relationship and we have a 3 year age gap, not a large one but still one, myself being the older person. I’m not saying every relationship with an age gap isn’t okay. We have a completely healthy relationship. I’m specifically talking about the ones belle and many like myself experienced. I never drank or did drugs, still don’t. I had and still do have a very bad home life and my health isn’t great so I was absent from school a lot. I too met a lot of friends online, at the mall or at concerts. I still lack many social abilities and have a very small circle of people I associate with.
Most people in my town growing up start dating very young, both males and females around 12ish. So while in your experience you say men were waiting around, that was/is very much so not the case for where I live. There was always dating going around with people in my age group. No one was simply “waiting around” for one another, no one was waiting until they were in their 20s to date. And if they did, they decided too. No one was stopping you or anyone else from asking one another out except yourself.
Everyone’s choices play a factor in normal relationship situation(s), the difference with what I’m talking about is men/women in their mid-late 20s+ know better than to associate with minors in that way. As an adult myself now, I’m aware that is extremely inappropriate. It is not on a child to understand that. Your brain is not fully developed and for most like me (in that type of emo/scene area) are not mentally well and at a young age can be easily manipulated and desperate for any form of positive feeling. You’re brain releases dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins which if you’re struggling and in a unwell mental place, are things you don’t experience. That person making you feel good acts like a drug. It is on the adult in that aspect to be held responsible for their interactions with a child because they have that better understanding. There are no other contributing factors that are relevant in those situations, especially the choices of the younger person who simply was manipulated and taken advantage of.
I completely agree. As they say, hindsight is 20/20 and I definitely stumbled upon some predators, but I saw it as something cool. It's nuts. My 12/13 year old self was hanging out with 17-21 year olds.
@@vanessamariaa I wouldn't say there is much of a choice, if the girls my age were unavailable, due to dating older guys. It wasn't a ''choice'' to wait. But, like I said. I didn't set out to date someone younger. It just happened and seemed normal enough, considering what others around me were doing.
And the brain continues to developed into the early 20's for many people, so I could argue that even a young adult is still not fully matured, mentally. At my current age, I would consider a teenager to be a child, but at age 20 I certainly didn't see them that way. Just someone a few years younger than me. I certainly did my best to be a positive influence in her life and helped her learn from my own experiences. Something I never had the benefit of.
Belle gives me major Cassie from Skins vibes. Her home life, the way she acts, and her looks too.
She even talks like her and laughs before she talks like her!
her voice too it sounds just like cassie's
I was 14-16 being conditioned by a 35-year-old over the internet. I didn't see it as predatory at the time because I just thought it was a relationship. I craved attention, looking back, and he gave it to me when I gave him pictures.
I’m sorry but unless you’re really dumb or had major daddy issues you would know that’s not normal for someone that old to be into you, and vice versa. Yes you were a child, but a teenager and not a little kid. When I was that age I knew better.
@@starswan tbh I think quite a few insecure young girls fall for these older creepy guys that go on omegle or whatever. My ex from over 10 years ago had the same happen to her like the girl above describes. She wasn't very pretty honestly, and that's where it all starts unfortunatly... Crappy childhood, dead mom, a shallow absent dad.. It's quite sad actually if you think about it. Predatory.
shut up????
@@starswan tf? 14-16 years old is still a child. Thats victimblaming. Good for you knowing better in that age, other people may not. And thats totally normal for A CHILD, so please have a little respect for victims with traumatic events happen to them at a dangerously young age.
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She’s actually just like… a chill person. I feel like since no one ever hears her talk she gets all this controversy but she’s really just a normal ass person who made some mistakes.
So we all know about Belle, but I've never been someone who got into her content. I'm glad to hear she is open about talking about her life up to this point. It sounds like she has quite a bit of childhood trauma, and suffered from a lot of neglect in that time. Like the relationships with older, reliable, supportive people makes sense to me. I hope she's doing some counselling and working through that stuff, but she seems like a very reasonable, responseable, honest woman, and I'm glad she's as successful as she is with who she is. Good on you, Belle!
It's incredible hearing her talk about her experiences. I grew up in a messed up home, was groomed by older men as a teen, and i'm only really addressing the emotional fallout from all that and I'm in my 30s. I think Phil talking to her like the adult she is, but also from that older, wiser perspective is awesome.
Trying to watch Phil navigate the minefield of talking about sex to such a young girl is too funny 😅😅 this is so entertaining but i saw him doing the 35 year old mental gymnastics and trying not to cringe
I felt personally that he was just trying his best to he respectful. I really felt he wasn't judging her, and trying to base his questions on making her feel really comfortable with talking about her life
Phil is I think the only man who could have this conversation with Belle and take it 100% seriously with no awkward flirting.
Well she had a pretty comfortable experience with H3H3 too
Do most men find it impossible not to flirt just because she’s a sex worker? 🤔 Depressing if that’s true.
The bare minimum eh 😭😭😭😭
um yall realize they both are in a relationship, i hope?
Belle is like the most relatable person ever that I have nothing in common with.
This!
She is such an interesting personality, she goes in and out of the spotlight all the time and regardless of the content of the controversy or trend, she always walks away with the bag.
oh yea she makin bank
Because she takes it for granted now. She's also using my this attention to cope with her trauma imo :(
Everything he says is on point.
Never thought i would have a personal resonance with the girl who sold her bathwater but i totally can relate to her struggles with her early life and understand what she went through and see someone else path that was different from your own but with the same type of issues
Phil, this was one of the most amazing interviews ever, online or not. The feeling, the empathy and the feel of it. Totally changed my view of Belle. She is surprisingly really sweet , normal, relatable and intelligent.
Actually, her experience dating older men is actually similar to so many people I knew when I was 14, I also live in the UK
I live in uk too it’s called being an nonce here
As another girl with a similarly broken family life, all of the applause for capitalizing your trauma, girl. I know it sounds painful to everyone, it is, but there’s nothing like not being pitied.
LOL she's capitalizing on the trauma of little girls right now by selling the idea of molestation
@@Grimm_Butterfly That’s an opinion, I think it’s more complex than that. I’m a big fan of blaming actual perpetrators myself. Disturbed people will be disturbed with or without porn.
I’ll add that I’ve never seen her adult stuff. My opinion only holds for porn that is between 2 consenting adults...if there’s some shady backstory here I’m not aware of it.
@@Grimm_Butterfly what do you mean
@@Grimm_Butterfly if you're talking about the consensual non consent play, im sorry you feel that way? A lot of people are into power struggle roleplays in various ways, doesn't make it exploitation if it's between 2 consenting adults.
The way she has opened up since the cold ones podcast is actually insane
that was her best podcast so far
I can say with complete conviction as someone who has worked within social services that this success story could quite have easily become a serious case review for the local authorities. If you experience similar situations as a minor - please reach out to the local social services where there are excellent individuals looking to help. I cannot understate how impressive it is to have seen Belle gain independence and fiscal freedom after such a difficult start. 99% of the time this doesn't end well without help.
She's such a laid back positive and chaotic person. It is incredibly refreshing.
Agreed! She's great at what she does
Big ups
Indeed I agree that her alignment is Chaotic Good.
I just really want to be her friend. I’ve never watched her before but she just seems so sweet and lovely. I’m glad she survived the trauma and has money so she doesn’t have to ever rely on anyone. Sending her love
She is a fucking angel. I'm so gratefully surprised. I really really wasn't expecting at all to be so... fucking...relatable? In a way.
Idk I'm high and I just enjoyed this interview so much lmao
Same. I can totally relate to avoiding drinking for a while due to my mother's alcoholism. I still have an aversion to overly drunk people.
@@jejetube7667 same. i can relate to what she’s saying and im sure we would be very good friends. she’s extremely cute and if she had her own yt channel i would definitely watch it
Me too, i wish i could find a way to contact her
I’m sorry to have misjudged belle. Everyone desires to be loved. And plenty love you. I’m really happy I listened to your story.
Everyday we unconsciously assume one thing or another...I've had only few people I couldn't relate with in some way once I got to know them! But this had me taken aback.
@@SlickRick-ky8il Bruh...STFU! You know damn well people are commenting about hearing the story from the person rather than what gets twisted every fucking day & your showing how little you understand about the horrible shit people go through on a daily basis!
@@SlickRick-ky8il There is a time and place for that BS & it's not when people trying to be genuine!
@@SlickRick-ky8il C'mon man...I'm a forgiving person but I'm not fond of unnecessary disrespect!
@@SlickRick-ky8il what’s a Simp?
As a teacher I always love it, when school dropouts do so much better later in life than the ones with good grades. Many kids don't do well at school but are in a very difficult position.
she actually did both. she used to be really good in school before she dropped out
I am immensely sad and disturbed about what happened to her...It feels like she got victimized but didn't let it hold her back and now she is capitalizing on where she finds herself. It even hurts when you see that she has been desensitized to so much that its unfortunate....
Oh man I think Belle just convinced me to get a defibrillator. I had cardiac arrest this past July and it honestly would be a good thing to keep in the house
Ok but you realise they are hundreds of dollars?
@@masser4555 but honestly a few hundos or death? I’ll spend a few hundred dollars thanks
@@sabinajoh well more like $1k actually
My grandfather had a cardiac arrest while playing Tennis as a club, and luckily they had a defibrillator. It saved his life, and I can't imagine how it would have been like if they didn't have one...
@@masser4555 absolutely worth it.
$20 mil?! Phil c'mon you're selling yourself short.
She seems like such a chill person to be around tbh .
I can tell you as a 14 year old girl, I got way more attention from adult men then I do now as a 25 year old woman
Yeppppp every single thing she’s saying about the older guys/younger girls thing in the music scene is 100% accurate. And it doesn’t usually feel traumatic at the time, it’s just a boyfriend you have who can do cooler stuff then you can🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
Very true. My dumbass dated a 20 year old while 14. At the time, I found it cool and logical because I was just so mAtUrE and he totally got me.
I pretty much just commented the same thing.
From the opposite spectrum - I had girlfriends 4y younger while being 16/17/18 and at the time in my environment it was normal, and we scrutinized cases of 12/13yo dating 2Xyo's. Back then, a universal "barrier" was 4y up or down, anything bigger was considered bad/immoral. Had normal relationships, went are were 🤷 though I did sadly witness a story of my 15/16yo female friend getting her first time lost without her consent with usage of violence after alcohol by a 25yo, which stirred me up and made look quite differently at the matter.
Am just happy I'm 26 and the 4y difference isn't weird anymore 😂
I can't even fathom moving out at 15
And finding a 25 yo to live with wtf
@@lutherkrin7629 it'd be next to impossible to get an apartment at 15 most landlords would never consider it, you can't even sign the lease yourself at that age unless you're emancipated. It does vary person to person, but it'd be impossible for most people.
I ran away at 14. Fortunately there was a very kind family that took me in but they were poor. I was ready to live life like that and make them proud but they contacted my parents after 2 months. I still love them.
I was kicked out at 16, I had no idea I had so much in common with her honestly
my buddy moved out when he was 15 (uk) , it's a destructive time indeed
I feel so guilty, I’ve judged her in the past from all the stories. And with this interview I genuinely related so much with her and just wow I feel like an ass.
Glad you’ve learned your lesson to not judge anyone that you don’t know lol
This interview explains a lot. The little bit I have seen/ heard of her from H3 podcast bits, I always thought, "i'll bet she has had a ROUGH life whether she realizes it or not." It seems like she doesnt even realize how messed up she is, and probably wont until many more years go by.
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Thank you, will try tomorrow!
God now I’m hungry...
Thank you. God bless.
To the moon!!
Never really paid much attention to her outside of the news (not my preferred content) but it was interesting seeing the person behind it all. Also helped to give context to the wild stores over the past few years.
i really hate her mom for not giving her the love and attentions she deserved... i hope she’s happy rn
I wish i could give her a hug. She just seems like she needs a genuine hug.
I love her vibe and I can relate to her in so many ways and because I can relate, I really hope the relationship she is in right now actually is healthy because some of the things she said made my anxiety rise with red flags. Truly do wish her the best and she is killing it so at the end of the day, good on her for bagging that coin
Same! I'm a little worried, like in aaa.. "blink twice if you need help" kinda way.
I really hope she seeks some sort of professional help. She seems so stuck and I feel like she should really address some of the trauma from her childhood.
You can tell she is getting slightly upset when telling her childhood story. I hope she is happier now.
I hope she is happy. I don’t think she should ever be ashamed of herself either. She is only 21 that’s still very young. Stay safe Belle and don’t let people stop you from doing what you want to do.
My guy is very respectful in this interview and she was super honest. By the end of the interview, it felt like this was a full-on therapy session. + dad vibes
Her childhood sounds depressing af. Kinda feel bad for her
I would assume most who get into sex work dont have the best child hoods.
the first half was triggering my protective older brother instincts hard, was so glad to hear in the second half that she has a healthy stable relationship with her SO
I wonder about that. Would she even have a reference for what a healthy relationship is? Kinda sounds like the boyfriend is running the show.
@@Malusifer Yeah, I got some weird vibes hearing about their dynamic, too.... Kinda creepy, imo.
did you expect someone in prostitution/porn to have a happy balanced childhood? i already knew she had it bad or not cared for before listening because it's how it is, at least wasn't as bad as most of the rest.
I hope she truly is happy and living this lifestyle because she wants to and not because she is seeking the love and attention she never got as a child. She seems like a wonderful and intelligent person. Again I just pray that she's happy.
Maybe not seeking love and attention, but obviously a big beautiful bag of money.
I would agree if it seemed like it was a part of her life spiraling out of control, but it seems she's very deliberate about what and when she puts out content. Like, it's a conscious choice to provoke reactions, gain a larger audience, or make more money, not feeding an addiction born out of trauma.
@@sod0m I agree she does seem very in control. It was a very interesting interview. I think Phil did one hell of a job of asking questions without getting sensational or disrespectful.
Thanks ❤️
@@MrDofusplayer Unless she is investing that money its only going to hurt her in the long run. Sometime within the next few years she will start to lose her audience and wont be pulling in as much money
I love how honest everyone you interview is
25:10 "What was really weird was going around other houses and seeing that it wasn't like that for other people..." Phil's reaction, man...
You know I actually enjoy bell as a person. She seems extremely EXTREMELY smart. She’s very confident and it’s pretty inspiring. I feel like she has done some stuff that wasn’t the best but she’s very smart.
Well she's switched on... But a lack of education can't help
"...guys don't really care about controversies, these drama channels are mainly female audience that don't follow my OF"
Holy shit, she is smart.
Isn't that obvious? xD
Everyone knows girls tend to enjoy gossip/drama more than guys
@@KevinAccetta That's so true. I'm female and it floors me to see how much hate other females dump on Belle.Some of them are so obsessed with hating her and getting others to hate her and I really don't understand it. They act as if she did something to them on a personal level.
@@mizzLopez Probably jealous to some degree I'd imagine 🤷🏽♂️
Which I guess I understand; she came out of nowhere and is huge and rich for showing her body basically. Still, doesn't mean she should get hated on lol
@@KevinAccetta Jealousy is definitely a big part but the way they go in on her is so deep rooted. You'd think she stole their boyfriends/husbands lol.
@@mizzLopez Ive seen just as much hate or more towards belle and other female sex workers from males
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That doesn't sound right so now I gotta Google this 🤔
I've always felt Belle is a performance artist with a side of fetish. I def empathize with Phil about the moment you realize it's not normal for one of you parents to hit you or throw you across the room. the abuse shapes you for the remainder of your life. For me I'm one of the lucky ones who turned it into the driving force of knowing what kind of parent I refuse to be.
can confirm she wasn't lying about old dudes dating emo girls who are underage. At the time in 2007 when I was the 17 yr old and just mad they were takin the chicks I could actually get. Now lookin back that shit is weird. At the time idk wasn't part of the conversations we were having so didn't seem like a big deal.
Yup, I saw a lot of this too and I'm not even from the UK or USA
it was also a thing over here in germany
allbeit not on the scale it was over in the UK
But i personally know quite a few women who were dating guys in their mid 20s when they were like 15 back in their emo days.
I think this is only shocking to people who dont know about the alt,emo,goth scene.... but to people in the scene that shit isnt new.... whets new is that people like me aint alone anymore in calling out that this is basically pedos grooming kids !
@@Ben-Doverbich this. and its like that in America too. it must just be they view them as easier and cause a lot of us were more "free spirited" and unsupervised it just happens. was wrong then and is wrong now. glad people are finally waking up.
@@jordanw2009 girls aren't exactly victims here. they learn real quick who will give them the most stuff, and it's not guys in their age group. this behavior continues until they hit a wall sometime in their 30s. then they either grab whatever beta they can get, or become increasingly resentful of men trying to be forever 21.
@@rickpickle I agree
ngl, I did not have high hopes for this one. But I was wrong, she's quite interesting.
Honestly, she's adorable and deserves happiness.
Phil this is an amazing interview tbh - such great questions and a great flow and just you did amazing. Very interesting gal
I completely resonate with what she said about emo/scene culture of 14 year old girls with 25 year old guys. This was pretty much my experience and every girl I knew in the culture and its only since becoming an adult I realise how the worst thing it was!!!!
She invited it. Still does to this day.
@@Grimm_Butterfly does not mean that she wasn't a LITERAL child!
@@Grimm_Butterfly Why are you spam posting, are you a stalker or something?
@@Grimm_Butterfly Why do you care so much? Is there something you want to talk about? It's ok it's not your fault, come here and give me a hug 🤗
@@Grimm_Butterfly isn’t that kind of the point? A 14 year old doesn’t know any better. They flirt, they’re learning about themselves. An adult, is an adult. They’re supposed to know, no matter what you don’t fuck around with children. Blaming a kid for being a kid is so ridiculous.
Adorable. Phil, Thanks for giving us an opportunity to see her side vs what's been publicized in the media. It's always great to see us introverts succeed.
She's British. Biggest plot twist ever....
honestly like her or not, she is a genius. blew up with the whole ahegao face thing, then embraced the lewd cosplays, after that embraced the meme of a true gamer girl and turned all of that into a profitable business enough that she managed to sell supposed bathwater which for all we know could easily just be some dirty water she got from a creek or whatever. she is a perfect example of "taking advantage of your opportunities"
I just feel like Phil is slowly becoming doctor Phil, but better.
I dont know if comparing Phil to one of the worst people on TV is fair. Phil deserves more respect then that.
Phil tricking me into watching his podcast for the first time
It's like old thumbnail Phil
when phil doesn't totally agree with a guest, he ends his comments with "but i don't know"
libra tings
"Actually I shouldn't actually say his age"
Phil: "Wait wait wait your not going to tell me a story about a man in his late 20s again are you?"
Belle: "No of course not"
Phil: "oh okay good"
Belle: "he was in his late 40s and I was 15" the dynamic of this interview
She said something close but I changed it for the comment 😊
well its not really the dynamic of this interview, she never really got engaged with guys in their 40s as far as I know
Enjoyed this one, I've never payed much attention to Belle outside of her doing troll shit online and seeing her Onlyfans exploded , but hearing her speak and getting some insight into her as a person give me a new perspective so good luck to her in whatever weird shit is next.
I love how open and vulnerable this interview was, loved it!
This has really changed my view of her. I also feel like this helped me answer some feelings about my own past, hearing her talk about kind of accepting what has happened in her youth with her parents. Her whole 'I'm making the most of what I get'-attitude is really helpfull
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