I live in Pennsylvania I drove all the way across the state today to go get a 6800 amplifier and then I drove all the way to New Jersey and bought that TX 6800 tuner I’m an old Stereo had never had any of this equipment I’m in love this stuff is awesome awesome video incredible
Thankx Michael, more than for its sonics this collection has great sentimental value. It represent a time where music was a treat to listen to, as well as to look at.. 😅
Hi Jeffrey, indeed it was. That was the solo reason for me to assemble this system. There is still one piece missing a SPEC 2 Power amp, you let me know if you spot a 220v hanging around ;)
+crventura My wife loves Portugal. She stayed there a few days on the way back to the US from Angola. She really wants me to go back with her and now I have a reason! May I come play with yours toys?
He he ... Sure you can, you wold be more than welcome. I live in nice place called Aroeira at 5 mn walk from the caparica beach. Let me know when the flight is booked ;) Cheers
Hi crventura, amazing system not only for the sound quality but for its historical value to audio lovers. I am happy that you took the effort to maintain such a vintage system that means a lot to us who were young kids back then in the 80s. I am interested to know if you tried pairing your Pioneer electronics with some modern non Pioneer speakers and what your impressions are. Thanks for sharing your systems with us! Moussa
Paco Charte lets share your joke with the rest of the community. For those thinking that the cables are suspended for the mere reason of costing 17K € here is a more in dept view of the subject. em.geosci.xyz/content/physical_properties/dielectric_permittivity/index.html Paco, do your self a favor and spend ten minutes of your time to learn something useful ;)
Very nice! Hi, I have “all” components to build “Blue line” rack . Rt-909,CT-F1250,TX-7800,CT-F950,RG-2,DT-500,SR-303,SG-9800and SA-8800 . How to connect them in ONE system? Please help ,where I can found Schematics for wiring . Thank you very much! Best regards!
Very nice setup! But, if this is your "beach rig", what is your serious listening system like? I'm doing something similar but on a much lower scale... still, when one of my tube amps is down for maintenance or repairs, I've got a silver-faced system to turn to... Thanks for posting this remarkable system! atb - Luther
Hi Luther, thank you for your kind words. It is a very nice system but uncómparable to my other two systems. Check my channel. You will find a Naim active system and my main system the DBL/Soulution/DCS ;) Cheers Carlos
Da aparelhagem paionir eu conheço bem o gravador de bobinas em fita um dos melhores que foram fabricados eram utilizados na maioria das rádios outra maravilha
Dude, the system is from 78, and is represented here for its iconic value only. It is one of my three systems and I’m not using it for other than display. Cheers
Very nice my uncle had a Mitsubishi vintage silver system full rack..with two extra custom speakers. .I just wish I had it.. but it was passed down to his son.. and son passed it to his sister. . now I don't know what happened to it? when I asked my cousin about it she told me her husband and friends blew it out? which I don't believe that. she knows am interested in it?
Lovely system...really enjoy your videos. Would you mind giving up the brand/model of lamp used over the tt? I've been looking for something similar without luck... Thanks!
Hi this was veeeery hard to find. I could find one on a local furniture store called "Casa", not sure where they imported it from but its china made for sure ;) Cheers
Very nice system! Do you mind me asking how you have the Dynamic Processor, the EQ and the R2R connected and in what order? I have had some suggest through the tape loop with EQ first, RG second and R2R last in the loop. Thoughts? I have SX-1050, RG1, EQ-9500, RT-707. Thx.
Hi Jose, Thankx. I set this system a few years back I cannot really recall the sequence I use. My guess is (While using the Preamp second tape loop), Dyn processor first, echo processor second end EQ last as it puts some coloration to the signal. The reel to reel was on the first tape loop, of that I'm sure Best
WOW!!! Do you know any seller who sells replicas or has changes for the knobs of a SA 9500? The two big ones, they look like the SPec 1 ones. Thanks in advance anyway! Mike
I should dig deeper, hopefully I'll find something.. by the way.. FANTASTIC collection!! I love that era from Pioneer. I have the HPM 100s and the SA 9500. The amp would me mint except from a tiny but visible (if you look for it) scratch on both the bigger knobs. They annoy me, you can understand. Thanks for the video and the kindness! Mike
Hi ThatManLam, We are listening to a very rare recording of the Dizzy Gillespie Trio, live at the Montreal Jazz Fest. The trio is composed of: Dizzy (Trumpet), Toots Thielemans (Guitar) and Bernard Purdie (Drums); One of the best jazz drummers of all times, if you ask me ;) Enjoy !!
Hi Peter, that little bugger is called a Resonator, built by a German manufacturer called Finite Element. This gadget converts energy basically. It transforms vibration in heat, this way the electronics are less exposed to vibration. The frames and the amplifier table, are from that brand. Underneath each shelf, they put four Resonator units each one tuned to its own frequency. Its a nice tuneup gadget I tell you that ;)
***** I have never heard of this before. Very interesting though. I will have to look into it. Could you say something about how such a vintage Pioneer system performes compared to modern HIFI systems? Will I have to buy a high end system today to match it sound-wise? I'm asking because I have been considering buying a vintage system of some sort (could well be a Pioneer) as they are more affordable than new system. Also they often look better. Thanks
***** Hi Peter, what I'm about to say may start a war but I'm in to this for such a long time that I think I'm entitled to; Lets start with the content, a few years back when these systems came out, we use to listen to music, nowadays most of what we ear is crap. Now, if we're to listen to crap why have a sophisticated system to play it ? In my opinion thats what all the mid market manufacturers had in mind when they produce they're current line of equipments. Simply put; Crap to play Crap ;) That being said how they compare, well, they don't, today if you're looking for a good sounding system you have to spend a lot of cash (check my other systems), If you go main stream you get ... Crap. Now on the mid 80´s manufacturers like Denon, Sony, Onkyo, Akay, Nikko, Sound Craftman and a few others they were rely up to build some serious good sounding devices cos at that time people did give a shit about what they were listening to. If yo ask me, I would prefer 10 times a classic system to a mid market one. Now there is a catch with these vintage systems; with 20-30 years of usage the condensers are way past they're "bed time" and that is no good, one other important thing (but not difficult) is to find better OP Amps, any recent OP Amp have a much lower background noise.... Well I could go on and on, but to cut a long story short, go for the vintage system and have the power supply condensers replaced as well as all the OP Amps you can ;)
***** Hi crventura, Thanks for the advice. Just a couple of questions. As I'm no expert, would you please explain what the OP amps are? You write in the video that you have fitted new caps on the SPEC 4 and SPEC 1. Is there any particular reason for this? Sorry if this is a silly question. I am not an expert in HIFI, but since I want to build a vintage system, I need all the information I can gather from the ones who know. Thanks.
***** Hi Peter, OP Amps are those little transistors that amplify the signal inside each unit, even cassette decks have them. The Capacitors after 20-30 years cannot hold the charge as good as they use to when new, so they should be replaced after 20 years for sure. Now, if I we're to build a vintage system I wouldn't go for this pioneer line, I would probably go for Marantz ... ;)
Never thought on attaching a price tag to this system, for me it’ only has sentimental value 😊 But I tell you, in 78 this complete system here in portugal was retailed by the same price of two mid priced apartments. No plans on getting an 8 track cos this series never had one, but I’m missing one Spec 2 power amp, I only have the spec 4 😬
By elevating the cable from the ground, they reduce the influence of the ground source on the electrons flow inside de cable. It's not a noticeable thing on this system but very noticeable on my main system. You get a much better defined stage and air and lower background noise ;)
Hi Tim, these are the Pagode racks from Finite Element. A German company that went bankrupt a couple of years back. I’ve heard they are coming to live again. But be prepared these are expensive. I bought these new at a price of 8K€ each. Best
Great equipment, but I can't appreciate the look fully because I'm dizzy as sh.. from the crazy way you're using the camera. Way to fast and stupid angles.
Beautiful setup!! I'm working on my Pioneer collection myself, but you have a stunning setup, room and sound! It's amazing what some of the higher end gear from the 70's can sound like! One question,though, while they look sexy as hell, don't you think all the processors degrade the sound?! Having said that I just bought a SR-303 in a pawn shop 3 days ago in order to nearly complete my Pioneer system, but I don't think I'll actually use them What's your feeling on the processors contribution to the sound quality?.Thanks for sharing a beautiful system! :)
HI, resolution-wise they degrade the signal, but back then listening to music was all about looking at moving lights and all, so, the bigger and brighter the system was, more you loved to listen to it. I thing this cultural part of "listening" to music totally lost nowadays. Back to the processor, you have a second one, the Range Expander, it still degrades the original sound a bit but on a controlled usage it can be a lot of fun. It makes the softer passages softer and the loud passages louder ... Lots of fun you should try it ... ;)
***** I agree with you 100% about the cultural aspect of listening to music! I remember going into a few of the "high-end" shops with my Dad in my early -mid-teens, and all the Mac and Marantz equipment was on pedestals with all that glowing Mac green and Marantz blue! It almost was like sex.... LOL or as close to it a 14 y.o. has any concept of (back then anyway!). Thanks, I'll give it a try. :)
googulisevilscum I couldn't put it any better !!! :D I recall, drolling over a few shops at the time (early 80´s mid 90´s) with all those Nak's, Technics and Onkyo setups that didn't need to be playing to "sound" nice... :))
Very nice! Hi, I have “all” components to build “Blue line” rack . Rt-909,CT-F1250,TX-7800,CT-F950,RG-2,DT-500,SR-303,SG-9800and SA-8800 . How to connect them in ONE system? Please help ,where I can found Schematics for wiring . Thank you very much! Best regards!
Hi Evgeny, its very simple really, You connect the open reel to tape 2 on the Pre, and connect the Equalizer to tape 1. the tape deck goes on tape 2 input/outputs on the Equalizer. Now the tricky part; on the EQ tape 1 in, you connect the dynamic expander out and on the Dynamic Expander in you connect the reverb unit out. Finally the Reverb unit in gets the EQ out .This way you have the three units daisy chained and you can use de defeat switch on every one to check the effect on each one. Hope that helps ;)
Maybe Pioneer was not a SUPER DUPER brand , but their products were excellent. have few of them and love it !
I live in Pennsylvania I drove all the way across the state today to go get a 6800 amplifier and then I drove all the way to New Jersey and bought that TX 6800 tuner I’m an old Stereo had never had any of this equipment I’m in love this stuff is awesome awesome video incredible
Thankx Michael, more than for its sonics this collection has great sentimental value. It represent a time where music was a treat to listen to, as well as to look at.. 😅
Alot of polishing there......beautiful
crventura, nothing but respect for you!
The word "dream" doesn't quite describe your setup.. Delight for your eyes and ears! Bravo!
Thankx Radu !!
All the Best
Excellent! This was just about every high school boys dream circa 1979! It was mine then and still is now!
Hi Jeffrey, indeed it was. That was the solo reason for me to assemble this system. There is still one piece missing a SPEC 2 Power amp, you let me know if you spot a 220v hanging around ;)
+crventura You're not in North America?
Nop, Portugal EU ;)
+crventura My wife loves Portugal. She stayed there a few days on the way back to the US from Angola. She really wants me to go back with her and now I have a reason! May I come play with yours toys?
He he ... Sure you can, you wold be more than welcome. I live in nice place called Aroeira at 5 mn walk from the caparica beach.
Let me know when the flight is booked ;)
Cheers
very sad that they dont make them like this anymore
Glorious, beautifully made and durable equipment!!!!!
Fantastic sound system.
Absolutely spectacular!!
MAN THIS IS ONE FANTASTIC SYSTEM YOU ARE SO LUCKY.
Beautiful setup, impressive.
Excellent !!! Beautiful set
God back in the day I thought it was great listen to a friend's Sansui or a single McIntosh but that's incredible
Hi crventura, amazing system not only for the sound quality but for its historical value to audio lovers. I am happy that you took the effort to maintain such a vintage system that means a lot to us who were young kids back then in the 80s.
I am interested to know if you tried pairing your Pioneer electronics with some modern non Pioneer speakers and what your impressions are.
Thanks for sharing your systems with us!
Moussa
Hi Moussa, Nop I never did. What I did try was to connect these HPM's to a Spectral power amp, they sounded great :)
Cheers
Get down with the get down sound...
Great Pioneer hi-fi👍👍👍
Great system and great inspiration!!
El arte transformado en tecnología
I'm gonna end up like you some day.
Die Anlage ist immer noch ein Traum
Outstanding !
LOL @ the cables being suspended off the ground. Hilarious.
Paco Charte lets share your joke with the rest of the community. For those thinking that the cables are suspended for the mere reason of costing 17K € here is a more in dept view of the subject.
em.geosci.xyz/content/physical_properties/dielectric_permittivity/index.html
Paco, do your self a favor and spend ten minutes of your time to learn something useful ;)
Absolutely lovely, well done, Sir !
Эстетически безупречно...
Another perfect setup from my friend crventura!
Are yes super fantastic 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 System
best ive seen in awhile
Звучит великолепно. Слушаю через наушники.
Kudos for you. Impressive system.
Great system ❤️
Complimenti.
Now that's a thing of beauty
Suddenly, it's 1978 and I'm with the biggest drug dealer in town.
Great !!!
Delicious.
Excelente HI-FI, Pero la filmación es muy rápida y no permite apreciar los detalles de cada componente
Very nice!
Hi, I have “all” components to build
“Blue line” rack . Rt-909,CT-F1250,TX-7800,CT-F950,RG-2,DT-500,SR-303,SG-9800and SA-8800 . How to connect them in ONE system? Please help ,where I can found Schematics for wiring .
Thank you very much!
Best regards!
Wow 😍
I can hear the harsh square wave even listening this thru my tube amp
+TheWarped45 I'm sure there is a pill for that :)
шикарная аппаратура!!!!!
This is major league
Hi crventura, very nice system. I was wondering what those puck shaped things are that I see sitting on top of a few of the components in the video?
Hi Ryan, those are resonators from finite element a German company. They convert vibration in heat 😉
Es otra cosa lo máximo
Very nice setup! But, if this is your "beach rig", what is your serious listening system like? I'm doing something similar but on a much lower scale... still, when one of my tube amps is down for maintenance or repairs, I've got a silver-faced system to turn to... Thanks for posting this remarkable system! atb - Luther
Hi Luther, thank you for your kind words. It is a very nice system but uncómparable to my other two systems. Check my channel. You will find a Naim active system and my main system the DBL/Soulution/DCS ;)
Cheers
Carlos
WOW
muito lindo, show de bola
Very, very nice, but I would search for some original woofers. Or take a papir of Pioneer TAD Woofers.
Hi Siamac, I would but as you might know they are truly hard to find ;)
Thankx !!
Beautiful system. What Dizzy Gillespie album was that?
Live at montreux 1974 (I think).
Da aparelhagem paionir eu conheço bem o gravador de bobinas em fita um dos melhores que foram fabricados eram utilizados na maioria das rádios outra maravilha
what´s it "paionir" ?
Todo un gama alta exelente
Gorgeous :-)
Una favolab
Was nice then, but from year 2000....shit got better then.
Dude, the system is from 78, and is represented here for its iconic value only. It is one of my three systems and I’m not using it for other than display.
Cheers
crventura No disrespect, I had one myself.
Very nice my uncle had a Mitsubishi vintage silver system full rack..with two extra custom speakers. .I just wish I had it.. but it was passed down to his son.. and son passed it to his sister. . now I don't know what happened to it? when I asked my cousin about it she told me her husband and friends blew it out? which I don't believe that.
she knows am interested in it?
What a waste !!! :(
Lovely system...really enjoy your videos. Would you mind giving up the brand/model of lamp used over the tt? I've been looking for something similar without luck... Thanks!
Hi this was veeeery hard to find. I could find one on a local furniture store called "Casa", not sure where they imported it from but its china made for sure ;)
Cheers
All that snake oil
Lmao, true though
Lot of toys you are a rich man.
Very nice system! Do you mind me asking how you have the Dynamic Processor, the EQ and the R2R connected and in what order? I have had some suggest through the tape loop with EQ first, RG second and R2R last in the loop. Thoughts? I have SX-1050, RG1, EQ-9500, RT-707. Thx.
Hi Jose, Thankx. I set this system a few years back I cannot really recall the sequence I use. My guess is (While using the Preamp second tape loop), Dyn processor first, echo processor second end EQ last as it puts some coloration to the signal. The reel to reel was on the first tape loop, of that I'm sure
Best
Thank you very much for your reply. Have a great weekend.
Did the ever make commercial four track 11.5 open reel tapes?
No, never did, this is just a hobby ;)
Cheers
WOW!!!
Do you know any seller who sells replicas or has changes for the knobs of a SA 9500? The two big ones, they look like the SPec 1 ones.
Thanks in advance anyway!
Mike
Hi mike, I don’t but my guess is that in the US should be a few. Have you google it ?
I should dig deeper, hopefully I'll find something.. by the way.. FANTASTIC collection!! I love that era from Pioneer. I have the HPM 100s and the SA 9500. The amp would me mint except from a tiny but visible (if you look for it) scratch on both the bigger knobs. They annoy me, you can understand.
Thanks for the video and the kindness!
Mike
What phenomenal band are we listening to in the background? Thanks.
Hi ThatManLam, We are listening to a very rare recording of the Dizzy Gillespie Trio, live at the Montreal Jazz Fest. The trio is composed of: Dizzy (Trumpet), Toots Thielemans (Guitar) and Bernard Purdie (Drums); One of the best jazz drummers of all times, if you ask me ;)
Enjoy !!
Thank you again and, yes they are great!
Nice setup. What is the round thing on top of your Spec 4?
Hi Peter, that little bugger is called a Resonator, built by a German manufacturer called Finite Element. This gadget converts energy basically. It transforms vibration in heat, this way the electronics are less exposed to vibration. The frames and the amplifier table, are from that brand. Underneath each shelf, they put four Resonator units each one tuned to its own frequency. Its a nice tuneup gadget I tell you that ;)
***** I have never heard of this before. Very interesting though. I will have to look into it.
Could you say something about how such a vintage Pioneer system performes compared to modern HIFI systems? Will I have to buy a high end system today to match it sound-wise? I'm asking because I have been considering buying a vintage system of some sort (could well be a Pioneer) as they are more affordable than new system. Also they often look better. Thanks
*****
Hi Peter, what I'm about to say may start a war but I'm in to this for such a long time that I think I'm entitled to; Lets start with the content, a few years back when these systems came out, we use to listen to music, nowadays most of what we ear is crap. Now, if we're to listen to crap why have a sophisticated system to play it ? In my opinion thats what all the mid market manufacturers had in mind when they produce they're current line of equipments. Simply put; Crap to play Crap ;)
That being said how they compare, well, they don't, today if you're looking for a good sounding system you have to spend a lot of cash (check my other systems), If you go main stream you get ... Crap. Now on the mid 80´s manufacturers like Denon, Sony, Onkyo, Akay, Nikko, Sound Craftman and a few others they were rely up to build some serious good sounding devices cos at that time people did give a shit about what they were listening to. If yo ask me, I would prefer 10 times a classic system to a mid market one. Now there is a catch with these vintage systems; with 20-30 years of usage the condensers are way past they're "bed time" and that is no good, one other important thing (but not difficult) is to find better OP Amps, any recent OP Amp have a much lower background noise.... Well I could go on and on, but to cut a long story short, go for the vintage system and have the power supply condensers replaced as well as all the OP Amps you can ;)
***** Hi crventura, Thanks for the advice. Just a couple of questions. As I'm no expert, would you please explain what the OP amps are? You write in the video that you have fitted new caps on the SPEC 4 and SPEC 1. Is there any particular reason for this? Sorry if this is a silly question. I am not an expert in HIFI, but since I want to build a vintage system, I need all the information I can gather from the ones who know. Thanks.
*****
Hi Peter, OP Amps are those little transistors that amplify the signal inside each unit, even cassette decks have them. The Capacitors after 20-30 years cannot hold the charge as good as they use to when new, so they should be replaced after 20 years for sure. Now, if I we're to build a vintage system I wouldn't go for this pioneer line, I would probably go for Marantz ... ;)
How much is the system worth? And when you gonna get a pioneer 8 track player lol
Never thought on attaching a price tag to this system, for me it’ only has sentimental value 😊
But I tell you, in 78 this complete system here in portugal was retailed by the same price of two mid priced apartments.
No plans on getting an 8 track cos this series never had one, but I’m missing one Spec 2 power amp, I only have the spec 4 😬
@@crventura I love the spec 4 I think it looks better then the spec 2
What do the "magic" pocks do?
By elevating the cable from the ground, they reduce the influence of the ground source on the electrons flow inside de cable. It's not a noticeable thing on this system but very noticeable on my main system. You get a much better defined stage and air and lower background noise ;)
Alguien me puede decir que amplificador es mejor el pioneer sa-9800 ó el philips holandés proyectsound A-8000 por favor
Where can we buy the shelf?
Hi Tim, these are the Pagode racks from Finite Element. A German company that went bankrupt a couple of years back. I’ve heard they are coming to live again. But be prepared these are expensive. I bought these new at a price of 8K€ each.
Best
Alter schwede wie kann man solche musik gut finden
São muitos anos a virar frangos :)
How tall is the rack?
Hi Tim, 1.20m
do you wear a lab coat when listening to it?
Hi Perf, I do, and now in Covid times I need to wear a mask as well 😅
Name of this music please?
Dizzy Gillespie - Kisses - Live ( Digital Montreaux, 1980 )
Need VU meters
КЛАСС
Nothing sounds as equal to Analog
You need speakers.
Can i buy this? 😅
Sorry mate, personal collection. 😉
Б...ь наши умеют делать когда захотят
Great equipment, but I can't appreciate the look fully because I'm dizzy as sh.. from the crazy way you're using the camera. Way to fast and stupid angles.
Not to worry, this video is old as sh... and i am a much better cameraman now 😅
PS: I totally understand your Dizzy-ness 😂
Nice stuff, terrible video!
Beautiful setup!! I'm working on my Pioneer collection myself, but you have a stunning setup, room and sound! It's amazing what some of the higher end gear from the 70's can sound like! One question,though, while they look sexy as hell, don't you think all the processors degrade the sound?! Having said that I just bought a SR-303 in a pawn shop 3 days ago in order to nearly complete my Pioneer system, but I don't think I'll actually use them What's your feeling on the processors contribution to the sound quality?.Thanks for sharing a beautiful system! :)
HI, resolution-wise they degrade the signal, but back then listening to music was all about looking at moving lights and all, so, the bigger and brighter the system was, more you loved to listen to it. I thing this cultural part of "listening" to music totally lost nowadays. Back to the processor, you have a second one, the Range Expander, it still degrades the original sound a bit but on a controlled usage it can be a lot of fun. It makes the softer passages softer and the loud passages louder ... Lots of fun you should try it ... ;)
*****
I agree with you 100% about the cultural aspect of listening to music! I remember going into a few of the "high-end" shops with my Dad in my early -mid-teens, and all the Mac and Marantz equipment was on pedestals with all that glowing Mac green and Marantz blue! It almost was like sex.... LOL or as close to it a 14 y.o. has any concept of (back then anyway!). Thanks, I'll give it a try. :)
googulisevilscum
I couldn't put it any better !!! :D I recall, drolling over a few shops at the time (early 80´s mid 90´s) with all those Nak's, Technics and Onkyo setups that didn't need to be playing to "sound" nice... :))
googulisevilscum I would never run the processors
Just finished my 1974 pioneer set up, keep chipping away at yours it is worth it.
Very nice!
Hi, I have “all” components to build
“Blue line” rack . Rt-909,CT-F1250,TX-7800,CT-F950,RG-2,DT-500,SR-303,SG-9800and SA-8800 . How to connect them in ONE system? Please help ,where I can found Schematics for wiring .
Thank you very much!
Best regards!
Hi Evgeny, its very simple really, You connect the open reel to tape 2 on the Pre, and connect the Equalizer to tape 1. the tape deck goes on tape 2 input/outputs on the Equalizer. Now the tricky part; on the EQ tape 1 in, you connect the dynamic expander out and on the Dynamic Expander in you connect the reverb unit out. Finally the Reverb unit in gets the EQ out .This way you have the three units daisy chained and you can use de defeat switch on every one to check the effect on each one. Hope that helps ;)
@@crventura thank you very much! Happy Holidays!