Got the hydraulic excavator to lift just on 15kg on 4.5Mpa. Don't think I want to go higher than that though! I've had a chat with the factory and they reckon it's fine to run at 4mpa for general play, so that's what I'll do. 12-ish kg is adequate for the full experience. Solved the leak issue, too. More on that in another video when we go over this thing in more detail, coming soon!
Thanks Carlton! Be aware that I later realised the hydraulic pressure in the excavator was turned right dowm. I've since rectified this and it's now as strong as you'd expect, with a lift capacity of around 23kg / 50lb
More informative videos on each vehicle coming soon - thanks for the feedback, that's very much appreciated :) (I wasn't sure anyone would be interested in these things but after your comment I already have a bunch of videos in mind that I think will be interesting! Thank you)
@@RCTNT , I said before I really like your content you got really fun stuff going and you keep entertaining & informative which is very important keep up with us and work.
well that was entertaining lol.. the excavator is that just the 4200xl painted white? I am on the fence between a few different excavators on which to get.
It could be, there's scant detail about it yet. I'll do a video on it soon with the cover off. It's about as budget as hydraulic excavators get, short of converting a Huina 1580! I'll add that I'm now running this one at 4mpa with the seller's blessing and it's plenty strong. This is the cheaper end of things. I might have bought the 336gc in hindsight (or whatever the budget Kabolite 336 model is), but after some tweaking and screw tightening this one is growing on me.
Hydraulic, easily. I had an issue in this video and have since fixed it. Hydraulic excavator is strong enough to bend its own bucket, now. Same system as in the bucket loader. There's really no comparison. Hydraulic is where it's at for strength.
Do you mean the yellow wheel loader or the white excavator? Wheel loader can do about 20kg and it's running at 3mpa. Excavator I haven't measured yet but it will have a video soon. I'm running it at 3.5mpa and it's strong enough to bend metal, so I'm guessing 20kg or so. I didn't represent it well in this video. There is one coming for it though! I haven't run either at 5 yet.
That's some serious pulling power on that BC8 winch. But, considering the vehicle and its other specs, not really all that surprising. That truck is pretty beastly, I expect pretty much everything about it and everything it can do matches that description. Your choice of winch on your TRX-4 is interesting. Why did you choose that one, and what bumper did you mount it on? I put the stock "Scale Winch" from Traxxas on my TRX-4 1979 Bronco. Traxxas states that the max weight of that winch is 10lbs, but I have never tested it. I suspect the relatively soft plastic of the Traxxas "scale winch bumper" will fail long before the winch reaches maximum capacity. That bumper is soft, flimsy, and very bendy. I don't trust it for anything serious, I just haven't been motivated to change it. While I haven't tested just how much it really can pull, the winch itself is pretty solid and seems to work well. On my wife's Redcat Gen8 V2, we mounted a Warn 8274 from RC4WD on the stock bumper. That's what a Scout II would have had from the dealer, it's what they SHOULD have, so when I found out there was a scale one, that was the only logical choice. And let me tell you, that 8274 is every bit the beast a real 8274 is. RC4WD claims it has a 50lb dead lift and 70lb rolling drag and I believe them, there are videos right here on UA-cam demonstrating it's capable of quite a bit more than that if you push it. If you're looking for a good reliable strong and tough scale winch, that's the one to have. It's monstrous. Eventually the TRX-4 will get one of these too. Honestly, all of the weight capabilities of these vehicles you have are pretty surprising. I expect them to be capable, in order to do scale construction type things and to make playing with them genuinely interesting and fun. It really wouldn't be if they couldn't do what they're supposed to. But I think they outstrip expectations by a goodly amount. Those are impressive machines.
Ah yes, the 8274! I remember when RC4WD released that in mid 2016, what a beast! I've been meaning to get my hands on that at some point, but haven't gotten to it yet! Amazing power. The one in my Bronco is just a cheapie. I cut into the grille and recessed it a bit. It's bolted to the plate behind the bumper, from memory - it's been a while since I looked at it - but it runs on 3S via a WP-1060 that's run from the GT-5's fifth channel, on a dial. Gives that fine control both directions :) Nice choice for the Gen 8 V2. I didn't know much about Int. Harvester until recently - just wasn't on my radar, given they're pretty much non-existent in Australia in favour of the Japanese 4x4s here. I saw the one that Derek on VGG fixed-up a bit, recently. I definitely see the appeal!! Oh and hey, I haven't had time to make a follow-up to this video yet with the hydraulic excavator, but I had its hydraulic pressure turned down too much. It's now running at about 2.8 PSI and the arm can lift about 16KG. Much better than in this video! Strong enough to even damage itself (ie. bend a bucket or snap a track section) if I'm not careful! It's a lot of fun - it'll get a dedicated tour video soonish :)
such wonderful video my mate Even i l😘ve the compare between these machines But i want ask you about the excavator Hydraulic And faroe wheel loader WA470 this is not a limit for them you must open the pressure for them All Until they can lifting more this is not the END you must open the pressure to 20 bar At least from the thump screw well thx my mate Cheers🍺
Hey thanks, I've since played with the pressure and yes, they go much higher! I owe that excavator a video but the wheel loader had one recently-we covered the pressure adjustment there :)
@@RCTNT HI. Again well look dude this loader its not bad Even when you open the pressure But if you want real power And strong loader you must try JDM Earth mover 870k she best and strongest than faroe WA470 ... JDM 870K she is best thx Again bud ..greetings from Canada🤗
@@RCTNT i agree👍 there is 5 reason Until buy JDM 870K no.1 she have disc brack like real machine no.2 you can adjust the pump no.3 you can remove the teeth from the bucket no.4 she have 2speed And diff lock no.5 she made from full metal without any 3D printed Even have good details
Ah! This was my ignorance/forgetfulness! The hydraulic pressure was at the minimum setting. It's since been turned up and is now strong enough to bend its own bucket if you're not careful! The 1580 is great value though isn't it!
I was sharing your dread as you put more and more weight on these RCs... Almost had me sweating, suffering for those tiny little metal gears! Speaking of winches, we were trail driving the RCs today. We were wondering where do you draw the line? Some competitions are trying so hard to make the courses challenging, it's not like they require a winch ro pull yourself out of tough lines, but if you don't use it to swing from the cable as you drive, you might not make it. Nuts! Personally, I've never used one, although my little MST CMX "Jimny" (242mm wb on 83mm diameter tires) would really benefit from any help to creep up in many spots... although I wonder how "lazy" on relying on the winch would I become if I had one. Also, I haven't seen much winch specialized content, if you wanted any ideas... which I'm sure you already had, but, anyway, there ya go, haha! =)
Lol awesome thanks I've been in comps for a few years where winches were needed half the time. You don't get "lazy" with them because they're a bit of a pain - you need to resist using Hand of God to recover. But for scale driving and fun, it's entertaining in limited doses. The best comp courses don't need a winch but can reward their judicious use. Building a course is something that's hard to teach or define, but with some practice you can make something that balances on that knife's edge of challenging but possible for all to finish. Winches can add to that, but shouldn't be the central focus of a course - unless it's specifically a winch challenge... And boom, there's a video idea. I have a bunch of different winches. I guess it might be useful or interesting to do something that combines a comparison/review with a challenge of some kind. Hmm.
@@RCTNT Oh, I'm liking those ramblings. Could be very interesting on getting to better understand the types, uses and avoiding abuses of winches. Do let those draw some notes for a future video!
Great thread..I'm new to crawling so I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can and you have some really good video ideas and I would definitely be here to watch those for sure..
Heh, nice, you found it! There is a feature video just about the loader in the same playlist that's worth a look if you're interested, too. Cheers ua-cam.com/video/HiuV7C7qyPo/v-deo.html
No kidding, it's a steep barrier to entry. Prices have been coming down, but it'll need an order of magnitude more popularity to make a real difference. Hydraulics are super fun though, if you ever can manage it.
@@RCTNT Really! And by the way, that RGT ex86110 crawler, the pickup, blue, do you still have it? There on Instagram, you could post some of your collection. What do you think?
I have it, yep. I could put it on IG I guess. You can see a lot of my collection on my 6 month anniversary and 1 year anniversary videos here on the channel, too. Though things have grown a bit since then!
Got the hydraulic excavator to lift just on 15kg on 4.5Mpa. Don't think I want to go higher than that though! I've had a chat with the factory and they reckon it's fine to run at 4mpa for general play, so that's what I'll do. 12-ish kg is adequate for the full experience.
Solved the leak issue, too. More on that in another video when we go over this thing in more detail, coming soon!
Nice!!!! Perfect for my friday morning!
Hope you checked the load rating of the box!
Lol I stood on it! She's one sturdy cardboard case, that's for sure!
very interesting test really enjoyed this video and your time doing it thanks
Thanks Carlton! Be aware that I later realised the hydraulic pressure in the excavator was turned right dowm. I've since rectified this and it's now as strong as you'd expect, with a lift capacity of around 23kg / 50lb
This was very fun & entertaining. Pretty cool stuff though could definitely be bit informative as well👍...
More informative videos on each vehicle coming soon - thanks for the feedback, that's very much appreciated :)
(I wasn't sure anyone would be interested in these things but after your comment I already have a bunch of videos in mind that I think will be interesting! Thank you)
@@RCTNT , I said before I really like your content you got really fun stuff going and you keep entertaining & informative which is very important keep up with us and work.
That is INSANE lol. Can you imagine using something like some scale snatch blocks what kind of weight they could pull/lift! Just unreal!
Haha I do actually have scale snatch blocks here. Should do that sometime!
well that was entertaining lol.. the excavator is that just the 4200xl painted white? I am on the fence between a few different excavators on which to get.
It could be, there's scant detail about it yet. I'll do a video on it soon with the cover off. It's about as budget as hydraulic excavators get, short of converting a Huina 1580!
I'll add that I'm now running this one at 4mpa with the seller's blessing and it's plenty strong. This is the cheaper end of things. I might have bought the 336gc in hindsight (or whatever the budget Kabolite 336 model is), but after some tweaking and screw tightening this one is growing on me.
Love that white excavator
It's a lot better now too. Hydraulic pressure was way too low in they video. Will do a closer look at it soon :)
@@RCTNT Great am subscribe to you so when you post I will see it...awesome machine
So in your opinion, which one is better, hydraulic or electric?
Hydraulic, easily. I had an issue in this video and have since fixed it. Hydraulic excavator is strong enough to bend its own bucket, now. Same system as in the bucket loader.
There's really no comparison. Hydraulic is where it's at for strength.
Nice vid,, truck winch is amazing,,👌,amazing all.them little vehicles lifting so much,,😁😁😁👍
Didn't really enter this video with a plan so much as simple curiosity. Was fun to make, glad you enjoyed it!
Worm gears really put in work lol
Don't they just!
Thanks for this nice vidéo, please the machine with the hydraulique pump 5mpa how many kgs can it load. Thanks
Do you mean the yellow wheel loader or the white excavator?
Wheel loader can do about 20kg and it's running at 3mpa.
Excavator I haven't measured yet but it will have a video soon. I'm running it at 3.5mpa and it's strong enough to bend metal, so I'm guessing 20kg or so. I didn't represent it well in this video. There is one coming for it though!
I haven't run either at 5 yet.
@@RCTNT thanks how about the white excavator
@@khelifihebbache8032 expand my last comment, I talked about it too. Video coming in another month or so. Cheers
@@RCTNT thanks very much, excuse me i don't speak english correctely hi.
@@khelifihebbache8032 all good, my friend
That's some serious pulling power on that BC8 winch. But, considering the vehicle and its other specs, not really all that surprising. That truck is pretty beastly, I expect pretty much everything about it and everything it can do matches that description. Your choice of winch on your TRX-4 is interesting. Why did you choose that one, and what bumper did you mount it on?
I put the stock "Scale Winch" from Traxxas on my TRX-4 1979 Bronco. Traxxas states that the max weight of that winch is 10lbs, but I have never tested it. I suspect the relatively soft plastic of the Traxxas "scale winch bumper" will fail long before the winch reaches maximum capacity. That bumper is soft, flimsy, and very bendy. I don't trust it for anything serious, I just haven't been motivated to change it. While I haven't tested just how much it really can pull, the winch itself is pretty solid and seems to work well.
On my wife's Redcat Gen8 V2, we mounted a Warn 8274 from RC4WD on the stock bumper. That's what a Scout II would have had from the dealer, it's what they SHOULD have, so when I found out there was a scale one, that was the only logical choice. And let me tell you, that 8274 is every bit the beast a real 8274 is. RC4WD claims it has a 50lb dead lift and 70lb rolling drag and I believe them, there are videos right here on UA-cam demonstrating it's capable of quite a bit more than that if you push it. If you're looking for a good reliable strong and tough scale winch, that's the one to have. It's monstrous. Eventually the TRX-4 will get one of these too.
Honestly, all of the weight capabilities of these vehicles you have are pretty surprising. I expect them to be capable, in order to do scale construction type things and to make playing with them genuinely interesting and fun. It really wouldn't be if they couldn't do what they're supposed to. But I think they outstrip expectations by a goodly amount. Those are impressive machines.
Ah yes, the 8274! I remember when RC4WD released that in mid 2016, what a beast! I've been meaning to get my hands on that at some point, but haven't gotten to it yet! Amazing power.
The one in my Bronco is just a cheapie. I cut into the grille and recessed it a bit. It's bolted to the plate behind the bumper, from memory - it's been a while since I looked at it - but it runs on 3S via a WP-1060 that's run from the GT-5's fifth channel, on a dial. Gives that fine control both directions :)
Nice choice for the Gen 8 V2. I didn't know much about Int. Harvester until recently - just wasn't on my radar, given they're pretty much non-existent in Australia in favour of the Japanese 4x4s here. I saw the one that Derek on VGG fixed-up a bit, recently. I definitely see the appeal!!
Oh and hey, I haven't had time to make a follow-up to this video yet with the hydraulic excavator, but I had its hydraulic pressure turned down too much. It's now running at about 2.8 PSI and the arm can lift about 16KG. Much better than in this video! Strong enough to even damage itself (ie. bend a bucket or snap a track section) if I'm not careful! It's a lot of fun - it'll get a dedicated tour video soonish :)
such wonderful video my mate Even i l😘ve the compare between these machines But i want ask you about the excavator Hydraulic And faroe wheel loader WA470 this is not a limit for them you must open the pressure for them All Until they can lifting more this is not the END you must open the pressure to 20 bar At least from the thump screw
well thx my mate Cheers🍺
Hey thanks, I've since played with the pressure and yes, they go much higher! I owe that excavator a video but the wheel loader had one recently-we covered the pressure adjustment there :)
@@RCTNT HI. Again well look dude this loader its not bad Even when you open the pressure But if you want real power And strong loader you must try JDM Earth mover 870k she best and strongest than faroe WA470 ... JDM 870K she is best
thx Again bud ..greetings from Canada🤗
@@The-Warm-voice1359 no doubt, it looks good.
@@RCTNT i agree👍 there is 5 reason Until buy JDM 870K
no.1 she have disc brack like real machine
no.2 you can adjust the pump
no.3 you can remove the teeth from the bucket
no.4 she have 2speed And diff lock
no.5 she made from full metal without any 3D printed Even have good details
@@The-Warm-voice1359 sounds good!
😉👍
Is crazy the lower end excavator is stronger . I have one and i have no complaints
Ah! This was my ignorance/forgetfulness! The hydraulic pressure was at the minimum setting. It's since been turned up and is now strong enough to bend its own bucket if you're not careful!
The 1580 is great value though isn't it!
I was sharing your dread as you put more and more weight on these RCs... Almost had me sweating, suffering for those tiny little metal gears!
Speaking of winches, we were trail driving the RCs today. We were wondering where do you draw the line? Some competitions are trying so hard to make the courses challenging, it's not like they require a winch ro pull yourself out of tough lines, but if you don't use it to swing from the cable as you drive, you might not make it. Nuts!
Personally, I've never used one, although my little MST CMX "Jimny" (242mm wb on 83mm diameter tires) would really benefit from any help to creep up in many spots... although I wonder how "lazy" on relying on the winch would I become if I had one. Also, I haven't seen much winch specialized content, if you wanted any ideas... which I'm sure you already had, but, anyway, there ya go, haha! =)
Lol awesome thanks
I've been in comps for a few years where winches were needed half the time. You don't get "lazy" with them because they're a bit of a pain - you need to resist using Hand of God to recover. But for scale driving and fun, it's entertaining in limited doses.
The best comp courses don't need a winch but can reward their judicious use. Building a course is something that's hard to teach or define, but with some practice you can make something that balances on that knife's edge of challenging but possible for all to finish. Winches can add to that, but shouldn't be the central focus of a course - unless it's specifically a winch challenge... And boom, there's a video idea.
I have a bunch of different winches. I guess it might be useful or interesting to do something that combines a comparison/review with a challenge of some kind. Hmm.
@@RCTNT Oh, I'm liking those ramblings. Could be very interesting on getting to better understand the types, uses and avoiding abuses of winches. Do let those draw some notes for a future video!
Righto, I'll get onto it!
Great thread..I'm new to crawling so I'm trying to soak up as much info as I can and you have some really good video ideas and I would definitely be here to watch those for sure..
@@276rclife6 thanks for the reminder!
Tooooooop! espettorc
Heh, nice, you found it! There is a feature video just about the loader in the same playlist that's worth a look if you're interested, too. Cheers
ua-cam.com/video/HiuV7C7qyPo/v-deo.html
@@RCTNT thanks Buddy. i love this construction 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽 But this car's are Very expenssive kkk
No kidding, it's a steep barrier to entry. Prices have been coming down, but it'll need an order of magnitude more popularity to make a real difference.
Hydraulics are super fun though, if you ever can manage it.
@@RCTNT Really! And by the way, that RGT ex86110 crawler, the pickup, blue, do you still have it? There on Instagram, you could post some of your collection. What do you think?
I have it, yep. I could put it on IG I guess. You can see a lot of my collection on my 6 month anniversary and 1 year anniversary videos here on the channel, too. Though things have grown a bit since then!