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You know what would be cute ? With project kamp having a history of putting up signs it would be sweet to have signs in the finished buildings honoring all the people who have worked on it :)
Up you go
Or maybe in remembrance of everyone who died in it when it collapses
@@opticaltrace4382 Do it onion style and put up the sign before the tragic accident that will have been preventable.
@@opticaltrace4382negative Nancy 😂
Coming from an earthquake prone country, New Zealand, this whole episode made me extremely anxious!
Ahhh kiwi brother, or sister
@@courtthompson2236
Kia ora
Small world......
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FYI, Tane boomer
@@kiwi_welltraveled4375 Kia ora bro
Geez, I was holding my breathe as the long lintal stone was rolled along the path and then raised into position. Excellent work Team Kamp.
God I love this channel. I always enjoy the episodes where you are building something, but this stonework was a whole new world of construction techniques and challenges. Super cool that you're doing dry stonework in keeping with the techniques that were traditional in the area. I would love to learn more about stonework in future episodes!
I watch your videos from the beginning, and love to see how motivated and positive you approach all the difficulties.
Dry stone walls get their stability from the big stones, they should fit perfectly together. Using small stones to even out the big ones is not the right way to do it. They are only used to fill gaps afterward, the weight of the wall must be carried by the big ones alone.
Either the big stones are put together in a stable way, or the filling stones need to be supported by concrete, imho.
Yes!!!!
Tight joints that you can't put a piece of paper in, these are stable. Courses of these correctly installed make solid structures. You can see the time the StoneMason took on the old work to make sure that all of the joints were correct before going to the next course above. If you are going to do work by hand you have to have the proper tools to dress the stones correctly. I noticed that the lintel that they installed had a door slot and a pivot hole in the "side"😂 since they're framing it out in wood it's unnecessary , but a nice bit of old craftwork .
Watching them pick up the stones made my back hurt. Lift with your knees, not your back! lol
Actually, lift with a naturally straight back, using your core muscles, take a breath, use valsava technique, bend at the hips and knees.
Watch a few deadlift vids mate 👍
I'm an old craftsman and I got a little sick watching you today. Moving and lifting stones weighing more than half a ton, no safety equipment whatsoever (helmets and steel-capped shoes would be the minimum). And when you pull a 600 kilo stone uphill with a chain hoist, you don't stand behind the stone. If the old, weak belt breaks, you can get a nasty whiplash in the face just before the stone breaks your bones.
And do you know that there are several fairly active earthquake zones in Portugal?
Strong earthquakes are rare, but what do you think? How strong does an earthquake have to be to bring your 600 kilo stone down from up there?
And: You put each individual stone in a bed of mortar; subsequently smearing mortar into the cracks hardly improves stability.
I'm sorry I can't say anything more positive - but I thought in this case I couldn't keep it to myself.
All the best, Georg (from Germany)
I'm a Journeyman Mason and I have to agree with a lot of your statements. Earthquakes don't occur very often in Portugal ( do they ?I didn't check)but they do still occur and this building with the proper reinforcement might stand one. However in its current condition it will not hold up to an earthquake as can be evidenced by the pile of rubble that you found by nearly every one of the ruins, yes? As it is too late now, you can still retro reinforce. This can be achieved by using rebar, drill into the wall and the foundation from most likely inside , pound rebar spikes in and create a wall of rebar , form up around it and pour a solid concrete wall at least 8 inches thick, a buttress I think it is called. Research block and tackles, snatch blocks and pivot cranes. Old stonemason techniques such as dressing stones will be useful There are several simple crane models you can use, that will make moving these blocks a lot easier. As this man said before putting your blocks in a bed of mortar is far better than dry fitting. At least use dry mortar. I have a thousand other techniques and tips for you but I didn't want to make this too long if you have any questions just ask...
@@redpecker12 We had a 5.4 magnitude earthquake 6 weeks ago. But I don't think it did any real damage... This building was probably fine from it without the motar yet.
I don't quite agree about lifting the rock uphill that way. Was quite clever actually. Those belts are made to hoist more than 1/2 tons for sure without problems
Yah, I sometimes wonder at the lack of safety features and the lack of understanding about how things work. "It's probably fine" is not a good thing to hear when talking about stonework with only clay mortar which can resist downward compression but not up-and down movement or side-to-side movement that occurs in earthquake tremors. (I kinda winced when I heard "yeah, the granite is decomposing and weak, but the inside is probably fine.") Most of Asia Minor is littered with the fallen stones and columns of the Greeks and Romans who didn't build for earthquakes. And does no one remember the Lisbon earthquake of 1755?
I admire the perspicacity of the group and the energy dedicated to the cause, but putting safety second is the same as putting safety last. When we are young and strong, our bodies can fool us into thinking we can just do something w/o long-term consequences.
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That's a lot of very good advice, I think. I'm not a bricklayer, so I only have a limited knowledge of this trade - thank you for your post.
I'm a bit sensitive about earthquakes because I live in an active area. Strong earthquakes are rare here too - but you always have to expect them. In my experience, an earthquake of magnitude between 2 and 3 could be enough to cause the building in its current state - the new structure - to collapse. We have earthquakes like this every few weeks. In Portugal, the dangerous zones are concentrated in the south of the country, but there are also isolated hotspots in the middle.
Specifically: In the earthquake areas of Portugal (except the Azores) there were 9 earthquakes in the last 24 hours.
The strongest reached 3.2, and three others were between 2 and 3.
Georg
PS: 6 weeks ago we have had a 5,4 quake 84 km south of Lisbon. I dont know, were you located in Portugal - but be careful!
“now it’s just two people watching a stone” hey sometimes that’s the best you can do 😂
Wow! this was a big and heavy job. I like how you preserve the old ways and are building in the traditional way
I’m so glad they decided to save the cornerstone instead of cutting it, so much material history preserved.
They should have kept it in place, the angle is now superunstable !
From my admittedly slight knowledge of stone building granite is an extremely hard stone, so it’s so easily cut that means that it’s been damaged by the fire and shouldn’t be used for construction
It can't be granite. Granite that has been damaged by fire flakes of in flat sheets. And the grain structure is also all wrong, it's supposed to be parallel lines, that's why it flakes. The quarts and feldspar are supposed to be mixed together homogenous, not separated out into crystals. It has to be some kind of gneiss.
Granite just don't look or behave like that. At least no granit I ever seen and I have seen a lot of it, everything is basically just naked bohus granite bedrock where I am.
Congratulations on all that hard and heavy work. As a Safety Officer I had my heart in my mouth, and if I had have come across a similar job in England I would had stopped it. But at least you had a lifting device, although I suspect those lifting bands were designed to secure a road vehicle tarpaulin, and not designed for lifting weights. You need to check their maximum lifting load. and check for damages to the bands.. I hope you know how much granite weighs so that you can calculate the maximum size (and therefore weight) of large stones. I would think that you need to use cement to keep the structure stable and watertight. I hope you will also have a sturdy wooden frame Inside the house. Once again a great job done, and I hope the next phase of building is successful. Best Wishes Pete (Manchester UK)
I think they also need a "ring beam" to cap the walls and hold them all together.
@@peterhicks3516 totally agree, you really need to up your safety protocols
@@peterhicks3516 The whole thing looks unstable to me. It's pointed with clay, not mortar. The stones just rest on each other rather than being fitted and mortared. The walls are too narrow for this.
@peterkilver2712 "I hope you know how much granite weighs"
Have you watched the video?
That scaffolding gave me so much anxiety! LOL The ruin is looking more like a little house every day. Great work!
Yaaaayyyy it‘s Monday and we get our Project Kamp fix. ❤❤❤❤❤
I was very glad you found a re-use for that big stone rather than cutting it!
Several times I had trouble watching ... YIKES! Take care guys!
This project is a great reminder that the great cathedrals and castles of Europe took decades to build and have stood for centuries and will continue to do so for centuries to come. Glad you are doing it the traditional way. It will ensure that the building will last for generations.
I had visions of the Egyptians building the pyramids. 😁
@@jimstratfordflYou have to visit the pyramids then. And then imagine how one would lift, drag and place one of those giant blocks into a giant pile. Not feasible, even in modern times.
...and they didnt all speak the same language.
@@MarcoReekers01you don't have to imagine. They've worked it out how it was done, it's all online if you care to look.
Not only did they take a long time to build, they also took a massive amount of manpower and coordination which had to be maintained through those decades
The lady that placed the mortar a few videos ago did an excellent job.
You might want to get a structural engineer in to assess the build and sign off on it. If they refuse to sign off, don't use the building for habitation. Also, consider getting some stress indicators put in so you know if the walls are shifting.
It's not just earthquakes that can bring that down. Simple settling from the new weight, erosion, your changing the soil profile from the shovel work, removing plants that hold the soil together, etc ... small things you don't even consider ... will change things. The structure has compressive strength, but is very weak from lateral motion.
I'm scared.
I hope they didn't brush off and mock this advice like the others they got before. Go ask legitimate advice from a structural engineer if you don't think fellow netizens' concerns are valid!
Keeping everybody safe is one vital way to really keep this project "sustainable".
I would be happily mocked if you can come back with a sound endorsement from someone pro who can really assess the safety of the site.
A 600 kg elongated stone taken from a forest-fire, placed in a house you can tear apart with your bare hands as shown in the video. I am by no means an expert, but I wouldn't even walk close to that building. I hope they reinforce a lot, but the "traditional clay" approach is worrying. I just hope that thing holds for the safety of the hard-working people over there, but also that they do have at least one expert come out and look at it, as you suggest, before they have people inhabit it.
From a long term standpoint, you should really be using Lime Mortar and not Clay Mud. It would make a much stronger structure over all and be safer in the case of an earthquake.
totally agree
It's called using common sense, really - you’ve got a point there. Using something that will last 10+ years. This entire project they are doing is more about getting it done and revisiting it later - Generation 1, revisit; Generation 2, revisit; Generation 3, revisit. It’s not necessarily what you're proposing - to get it done once and not have to revisit it!
About 30 years ago I watched a video about a man building a stone fence. There was one point that I still remember; "it's tempting, but never use small rocks to stabilize the big ones. The little rocks will act like wheels and the whole thing will come down in the wind."
They don't want to use lime because of the emissions
@@sestun And somebody used small stones decades ago and it is basically still standing.
Noticing the stone shift at 21:53 makes me think that it's not going to end well. I believe the stones should be chiseled with dished surfaces to make them more stable, which would hopefully eliminate the need for tiny stones as load-bearing support. I have been stacking clutter to above eye level ever since, so trust me, I know my stuff.
Don't worry, they claim it is safe.
Im worried about the fact that you cut the masonry corners each side of the future window.
It affects the stability of the whole front and back facades, i don't believe you can rely on the window frame to compensate. A narrower window would have both spared original building and effort, and made a safer building, without a critical loss of light...
I agree I would not want to be in this building in even a small earthquake. the lentil will fall outwards. I hope. So will the back wall.
Also, they really be using Lime Mortar and not Clay Mud to hold all the stones together.
@@michaelcravens3767 The placement of the stone or brick that provides the strength. The Mortar provides stability against movement and ingress of water into the wall.
The mortar is dependent on the adhesion with the rock which is to crumble to really bond well. Even the use of rocks between rocks to fill the gaps and steady the rock weakens the wall. but can be done if the contact between the rocks is flat and smooth and makes contact over as much surface on both sides. I have had my knuckles cracked by stone masons for doing so.
I agree with that, these walls are very dangerous. They should used lime mortar between the stones like the old ruin was built. And they should have build reinforcements with metal rebars in concrete, at least on the two corners near the future window linked to a belt around the roof.
Their construction skills are good to build dry walls in a garden, but not to put people inside.
If you really want to made a dry stone wall, you have to shape perfectly each stone, in order to flatten them to put nothing between them, it take a lot of skill and a very big amount of time.
just a little bit worried for the futures users, not trolling.
see you.
This large opening weakens the corners . Walls at each ends can collapse inward. Also this granite is rotten . Rot should be scraped out of the building stones for having a sound material .
Well done team!!! What a joy to watch, might be my fave video - lots of new insights in how to renovate such a structure. Respect to the team! ❤🎉 curious to see the progress of this project!
Corner stones on the window wall being cut may compromise the stability if the two taller walls.
What a mistake and unnecessary work also...
Best to use eye protection next time. When I took a wall down a stone hit my eyeball - I was very lucky that my eye and sight were saved at A&E. 🤓
25 28 - a pair of safety glasses seen, well done. The rest of this is just an accident waiting to happen. Really frightening.
I love ALL Project Kamp videos!
Even the ones where they only cut mimosas?
The last one was a bit boring...
Oh man... the way you dealt with the wasps was like a Jackass stunt. Hilarious lol
You should be real brave to stand under this lintel after weakening the corner wall.
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Hey Dave Hakkens, I really enjoy your content /progress. Health and safety must be a priority. That was a scary video, one slip , big problems.
wonder if Dave ever has to ask people to leave because they are lazy and dont want to work?
Well done ! Good job you can be proud 🫡
Next week ruin falls down after intervention by Kamp inhabitants
Pat yourselves on a great job, fellas! Well done!😊
1. I'd have had the lintel with the holey side face down. I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it if there's an earthquake of any serious magnitude. It doesn't leave me feeling confident that its structural integrity would remain intact. I certainly wouldn't fancy sleeping in there.
2. You have all of those mimosa logs you keep piling up. Is there any way that you could build some kind of log cabin out of them? I was thinking about perhaps using a variation on the wattle and daub technique.
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The lintel stone is upside down, the arch should be underneath and the flat should be on top
I love living on the edge, but those stone walls doesnt look safe. Would avoid staying in that building for longer periods of time. Rain, wind and, as some people mentioned, earthquakes will take that building down quite fast
This is the most amazing and hard working update yet! You guys did great stone work, and even looked like ancient Egyptians rolling that huge door lentil stone on the mimosa logs. Best ever!
This is my favourite episode of the season so far ! The video quality is top notch ( In some episode the video quality is so bad, I have t squint my eyes and put on the highest quality available). Beautiful work they made. I do have to say that I love when you build things. Mostly houses.
I commend your energy to reconstruct, at the same time there are earthquakes there, probably the reason those stones came down in the first place I would strongly suggest you use proper mortar and consult a proper mason for safety, the next quake anyone inside its a death trap, i live in california and have been through quite a few and have seen the results of poor construction good luck always enjoy your videos
like probably many of the viewers i got goosebumps watching all the activity with the big stone over the door. please guys invest some time in safety. i have a background in architecture and house building and was just waiting for something to happen at any moment, with happily didn't. also i have a question you might have to consider. "What is the structural benefit to have that big stone over your front door?" if you decide to keep it that way, please reinforce it with something really strong like a metal rectangular frame
Really love your videos! watching you from year one, but this time you got me real scared. keep you guys safe
What a beautiful stone structure - good work!
I luv the duo comedy in working it was great to see😂
Sometimes I wonder why I watch all these videos, but seeing the chain hoist suspended on scaffolds and being used as a crane made me realize I could do work with my own similar hoist at home. Seemed smart at first to pull that log with the hoist, but a motorized winch on a vehicle would be really nice. If this were America, one of the Kampers would definitely have a Jeep with a winch. One time our over-preparedness would come in handy. Cheers!
30:43 Serving up Project Kamp cat walk?! 😂
On a serious note, I love that ya'll respect the history of the land and rebuild and reuse the ruins ❤. If more people would fix up was is existing, we'd have a lot less waste in the world.
In italy i think is not possible to renovate with dry stack. there is a reason that people stoped using it
So super impressed with you all!!!!!
Better hope there is no earthquakes!
There are not a lot of earthquakes in Portugal
@@wolk2 "not a lot". So there are a few? It only takes one for someone to be killed by falling rocks. These guys are putting someone elses life on the line by not bedding those stones with mortar.
@@wolk2 Takes only one.
@@wolk2 look up lisbon 1755
The walls next to the windows looks really flimsy. Would have been better to make the windows smaller and leave the larger corner stones. Maybe the architect made a mistake with the large window design...
Totally agree !
Architect wouldn't do such basic mistake.
@@user-vo3st8kx7s A professional architect wouldn't go anywhere near Klown Kamp.
Hey team, please consider reinforcing the lintel stone. It’s upside down. You’re unsure of its integrity, have weight stacked on it over a wide expanse and someone is standing under it. Love the hard work, suggest you recruit an engineer maybe ❤
What a perseverance, i'm impressed!
Fantastic results, Big stones put in a New place to Bring a New Life to the Kamp history. BRAVO!!!👍👍👍🔧🛠️🔨🔨🛠️🔨🏁🏁🏁🏁
Is there a reason why you don't "cement" clay layer for layer like with normal brickwork?
Cement has a lot of CO2 emissions to produce.
@@mircomuntener4643 Safety is more important than small emissions. They live very green lives as it is, there can be some compromises
Stonehenge Craft 101. A joy to watch.
Those stones were very heavy but success was achieved. Very good work! That ruin will soon be a beautiful little home.
Interesting approach and great job, are you installing a ringbeam to interconnect all walls? The ruin was a ruin for a reason - so you may actually think about some concrete ring beam and/or some metal to ensure structural safety. Wood beams are also possible....
Yes, a concrete ringbeam is the minimum to add on the top of the walls, this is the first that came in my mind. Dont let the roof spread your walls.
In the last Q&A you told us u cant force everybody to wear protection while working with chainsaws etc.
If you dont change the way of thinking about safety on buildingsides at some point somebody will get hurt.
you showed us in this episode a 600kg toothpick what was laying in the sun,rain,fire for years.
before you showed us how breakable it is.
Than this pice is gonna be used to catch the weight of the wall and the roof.
I mean what the fuck this ''stones' are nothing more than compressed dirt :D
this is not a wet roof or mould on the wall.
This looks like russian roulette.
Great point! I remember thinking the same during that Q&A too, and I get that it can be tough to get everyone on board with wearing protective gear, but safety really needs to be a top priority-especially when working with such massive stones or dangerous equipment like chainsaws. I think it could help if Project Kamp agreed on clear guidelines that make safety gear non-negotiable. Maybe even designate someone on-site to lead by example and make sure everyone’s equipped with helmets, steel-capped boots, and gloves before any heavy work starts.
In this episode, seeing the 600kg stone after years of exposure to the elements, it’s clear that just a small mishap could be catastrophic. I really hope they focus on a solid safety plan moving forward-something that can help prevent any accidents before they happen. Maybe even sharing a safety checklist with viewers could inspire others too!
One day there will be no update on Project Kamp.
That's how you will know that someone died in Portugal.
I hope that won't happen!
Amazing hard work guys. Nice to see old buildings coming to life and provide more dry space for you guys.
5:38 "Reloading, mate, cover me."
I believe it is time to start thinking about constructing a log arch.
Play safe from Elliot Lake, Ontario, Canada.
hammer plus scissors equals protective glasses... 😯 Please take care of you..
I love the scene with the large stone moving, that was very funny
I would have like to see longer internal reveals where the opening is, the strength is in the corners and you have removed them. UK building regs have 650mm internal reveals
Yes their choice is very unsafe...
idk why but moving that 600 kg rock was intense
I am sweating it not falling on someone. Wild. And it seemed like I was watching how people have been moving stones for many centuries.
It wasn't 600kg. One man does not roll 600kg with just a crowbar. Their grasp of reality is as precarious as their masonry.
@@ratheskin58 That's the power of leverage. Also that's a big ass crowbar. But yeah 600kg does seem unlikely
Hellooo Everybody ! A question did you not put some mortar or cla or lime under the stone, just a little, just to stabilize, reinforce and glue together ? Ty. Miguel
That's such a tedious job! You practiced your patience so much haha
At last, a video with some content worthy of watching. Well done lads, not the best stone to work with but your masonry skills held the day.
It’s so nice to watch “real work “❤❤
Loving the masonry work!!
Loved the stonework!!! Jim in California
Next project, haul a fishing boat over the mountains from Porto and build an opera house ❤
Best episode yet. Love when yiu guys restore the ruins. Can't wait to see the community center.
my back hurt watching this.... amazing work
These walls look very, very unstable.
I am not an expert, so maybe and hopefully I am completely wrong, but I would not set a foot in this building.
What do you think?
No you're not wrong
They have been doing it for 100 years and they are still there, probably stronger than your wooden/plaster wall at home.
@@Alexdelannee as it happens I live in a good solid house built with bricks. 😊
@@Alexdelannee Sure, they've been building dry stone walls for 100 years. However there is a technique to building them and these guys aren't using it. I've done courses in building with stone (both dry stone and mortar bedded stone) for when I renovated my stone cottage, and I can tell you this structure is unsafe.
@@Alexdelannee Did you notice the conditions of the other stone buildings? Walls had come down. And, FWIW, lathe-and-plaster isn't exactly the "load bearing" part of a wall. It covers the load bearing part.
Look, I understand, you'd like to see some of the "old ways" preserved and used again. They offered advantages we may not see with the things that replaced them. But "good enough fer the old folks, is good enough fer me" isn't really where you want to go.
Good job legends very difficult terrain let alone doing a task very labour intensive
Did you stack the lintel on top of the crumbling stone? This is… dangerous…
That was amazing how you guys come together and come up with ideas to accomplish projects it was hard work but I’m sure satisfying for you all 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
now that is really old school building - I love it
Stuff like this is why I disassembled my wheel barrow and wrapped the handle bars in angle-iron.
Great music choices for this video. Great stone wizardry 🎉😊
What a beautiful memory of moving that massive stone up that steep hill.
amazing work, i can only imagine how that will look like at the end
I wish you were using eye protection when you chisel those rocks. But the job you did in moving that 1300 pound lintel into place was epic! DA
You all did an amazing job! Such challenging work. I admire your determination. ❤
So now we know how the pyramids were made
It's crazy to see how such a small looking stone is so difficult to move, some of those old Egyptian or South American ones are insanely huge!
@@gb8628 when you have endless supply of slaves everything is possible
I was thinking more like Stonehenge!
Very good job. Team work made the dream work! I really enjoyed this week episode. ❤
Think of how amazing your chain hoist would be to the original builders of this hut😂
I wanted to bring you all a fresh bear after so much hard work…
Well done! Unbelievable!
Bear or 🍺 beer???
@@patsykluting-lucas3804 🐻🍻
A little dangerous, but I'm game. Is it cold and bubbly?
@@patsykluting-lucas3804 😅😂🤣
Great job guys! I bet the people moving the bulk of the stones felt it on their back. I know I had to learn how to move tons by hand the hard way... I agree with other people in the comments, that you should definetly reinforce the building somehow from the inside. Be it wooden beam structure or what ever.
Why didn’t put some clay before putting the stones? It looks very unstable, all the rocks are moving
This has got to be the most stressful video out of Project Kamp so far! I've never been so tense in my life.
everyone knows that there's _huge_ demand for videos of two guys watching a stone move
Stone wizards now staring, carving, performing at Project Kamp. Wow, finished building the stone wall, overcoming high challenges. Dieter and Team = awesome. Look forward to next steps as the havest season progresses to winter.
That was some serious manual labour and a good job that health and safety were not in the vicinity to shut you down.
Unquestionably, log rollers is the best possible use of mimosa.
Hi Team, If you are moving very heavy stuff with a wheel barrow use webing (like from an old seat belt or a rachet strap) to connect around the wheel hoop. This enable 2 people to pull at the front while one lifts and pushes.
Those stones might originally have come from a Moorish castle or Roman temple. Either way, great work team!👍
Hard work, Suggestion to put the stones in front of the wheelbarrel as much as possible for or a the wheel, it will be less heavy to lift. Help with the wheelbarrel is fine, but use a rope to tear the wheelbarrel. And finally a tip for the real big stones, try it with 6 or more pipes, like a 50mm pvc pipe and roll the stone on these pipes. I hope it helps. Good luck!
What a great job, we can see it on your smiles at the end of the day ! Keep on !