Deep Dive: Insulation Comparison for Camper Vans and More
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Click the timestamp to skip to different video sections:
00:00 - Intro
01:34 - Thinsulate
03:14 - Dynaliner
03:52 - Fiberglass
05:44 - Mineral Wool
07:07 - Denim
08:04 - Cellulose
09:09 - Natural Wool
10:36 - Rigid Foam Board
13:24 - Spray Foam
16:43 - Cork Underlayment
17:47 - Radiant Barriers
19:54 - Overall thoughts
22:46 - Condensation
Hello, this is the eighth video in my van build series! This one will be a little different than the previous videos. Instead of going through how I built my van, this one will be a general comparison of the different types of insulation you might consider using in a van or camper or similar build. Enjoy!
Looking for detailed videos about all aspects of the build?
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This is by far the best van insulation video comparison I have seen. Thank you for all of the information!
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The BEST insulation comparison video. Helped me to choose the right material! Thank you!
So impressed with the time you take to analyze all the planning process and costs of the build out. You are the first UA-camr I support through PayPal (and I watch the ads all the way to the end to help you keep making videos.). Keep the videos coming! Thanks.
All of these are excellent. There aren't a lot of really comprehensive resources for nitty gritty stuff like this. Keep up the good work.
Thank you. This is an awesome video. Very informative. I appreciate the time you took to make and share this video.
One additional consideration regarding spray foam - be aware that many/most body shops will refuse to work on any area that has spray foam behind/near it.
Thank you so much for the details and covering all aspects from price to R value to health..... Helped me to choose the one suit me the most.
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This is easily the best video on insulation for vans (and maybe about insulation in general!).
Outstanding review. Thank you!
GREAT VID. Thank you for takin the time to make this
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This is great! To the point and informative. Thanks for the upload!
I had not thought of Thinsulate or wool! Thanks!
Many thanks for such a well presented, informative, helpful upload
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Another great video. These are all great.
Excellent comparison
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Very clear and well presented. A couple of points that made me ask wth? VOC's from fibreglas? I imagine this is referring to building a fibreglas shell with epoxy and the VOC's that result during curing. All loose insulation and some rigid foam (open cell like polystyrene) will allow moisture to pass thru to the cold metal surface and produce condensation. You need a vapor barrier with acoustic sealant at edges and seams to prevent moisture buildup and loss of insulation value and worse mold or rot. Finally, some rigid foam has a shiny polymer on one side. The air gap must be on the shiny side and that must be facing the heat source that you want to reflect. So if you want to retain heat in cold weather you want the shiny side inward with the air gap on the inside of the reflective material. This setup will not reflect heat away from the vehicle in the summer. To reject heat you would need the air gap between the sheet metal and the reflective material and then the insulation inside that. Heat transfer is very complex and you did a great job with a lot of information.
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Great video man. You have a great grasp of a very complicated topic for such a young man. Thanks. How about a vid on van layout?
This is so helpful thank you!
you just confirm why I'm using wool . great content
Nice job!
Very informative! Thank you!
Havelock for my build. You just finalized that decision. Cheers from Canader eh!
Very helpful. Thanks!
thank you well done Happy Trails
Great video! Thx!
Great info, thank you!
Thank you for another great video! I did not know that polyiso loses R-value in the cold. I am liking wool for my next build. I heard hemp is gaining popularity but haven't researched it. I am unsure on spray foam having heard batt insulation like wool and Thinsulate manage moisture better. Anyway, video is much appreciated.
VERY good video, thanks for taking the educational classroom approach. I don’t need to know what’s going on in your personal life when I am researching insulation. I am just starting to build my 2nd van, and this subject has gotten more brain processing time that most other up-fitting issues. I am beginning to believe most of us are killing a fly with a sledgehammer. Let’s face the fact that you are working inside a tin can. The structure of this tin can includes many, many hollow spaces that are difficult, or impossible to insulate effectively. You can fight this battle with 3 weapons; insulation materials, good heaters and good ventilation. The heaters and the ventilation are easier ways to effect the entire living area of your van/RV. Insulation is much more difficult to do this with. Steel is a great conductor and every surface that touches it moves heat into or out of you van. Forget a radiant barrier, you will have near zero effect on the comfort inside your van for your effort. If you insist on the comforts of a stick build home, stay home. If you want to live in a van in the outdoors, get a good heater, and season appropriate clothing!
Great video - very informative. I've seen some folks advocating covering all exposed interior metal surfaces with neoprene to combat condensation. Any thoughts on that? Seems like that might be better at absorbing moisture than combatting it.
I'm going with natural wool insulation in my future van build
the complexity in just insulating that the weird geometry of vans entail, i'm begining to the even more that the way to go is a box that you build out, and then attach onto a cutaway cargo van.
Then maybe cut out a hole so that you can walk directly into the driver's seat.
And also add some aerodynamic plastic fenders so that the oncoming air goes around the van more smoothly instead of a flat face of the box.
Thank you!
gotta say Moser, Veerry infomative!
thank you
Very clear and informative presentation. But I thought you would cover vapour barriers?
I'm insulating my van now. Your video was EXCELLENT. Thank you. I'm wanting to use spray foam in parts of my van I can't reach with the rigid stuff. Would spray foam make my van rust? Hope you can reply.
Hey Moser
Thanks for bringing us these gifts of information
I am truuuly grateful
I'd even like to donate
any platform for that ?
What if you used the highest R value per thickness material, and then coated it in some sort of sealer prevent moisture from degrading the material as well as to trap the harmful particles and fumes from getting into the air?
And if the sealer is a thermal bridge, just wrap the sealed rigid foam board with wool to mitigate some of the thermal bridging, effectively turning a parallel thermal circuit back into a series one.
One upconversion company's experience on UA-cam said they have tried different types and methods of spray foam with panel warpage from the exothermic hardening process of the foam. It would be interesting to hear if DIYers have had the same experience?
Hey Sam, what kind of insulation did you use for those deep places near the wheel wells of your Transit van? I have a Transit van but am camping at a campground on Mcchord AFB in the cold and I use an electric heater to keep warm but condensation is building up real bad on the wheel wells and in those deep cut outs. Thanks! Happy Holidays 🎄.
It sounds like your favorite choice is wool. Is that what you would build with now?
Im trying to figure out what insulation would be best for irish weather (winter) loads of different info but this is helping break it dowm. Still cant decide tho 😅
reminds me of report presentation in college
For non-Americans: this video describes R-values in [ft²·°F·h/BTU]. Most other countries will use an R-value that's also known as the Rd-value, which is specified in [m²⋅K/W]. It is a factor 5.678 lower than the American R-value.
Hope this helps, it took me a while before I figured out why the values in this video were so high xD
Hi Moser! Im thinking about insulating my van with 20mm Kaiflex but I'm not sure if I'd need an aluminium layer too... what do you think about it? do you think Kaiflex (or Armaflex) is a good choice?
Congrats again for your work and channel and thank you.
Greetings from Spain!
If I may add: spray foam will fill drain holes, so they won't be able to do the job they were intended for.
But you dont need them. No condensation can form on the metal shell.
How would you ventilate insulation? By having some space between the insulation and the wall siding?
Thank you, Sam! I was hoping for some information regarding fire retardation.
What about Hemp? Thanks for a fantastic video
Great video as always Sam. Do you have amazon affiliate links? i didnt see any on your site id like to support the channel
What are VOCs?
"Volatile organic compounds (VOCs) are organic compounds that easily become vapors or gases. Many VOCs are hazardous air pollutants."
(I had to look it up. 😃)
The simple answer is : insulating a van is expensive if done correctly. Most people use cheaper products to cut the cost. Use what the companies who make camper vans use and do it once.
I’d like to know about vapor barriers. Will a vapor barrier keep moisture out of insulation? What options are there for vapor barrier material? Is a vapor barrier compromised when screwed through to attach a plywood wall for example?
I just watched another van insulation video, where foam board was used on the floor and ceiling and then mineral wool in the walls and crevices. The argument was made that the vapor barrier was critical to seal the insulation in so that moisture from within the van could not reach the insulation. So reflectix was used as a vapor barrier material and was completely taped in place with aluminum tape. Then plywood walls were attached to that.
@@MoserMakes You raise a good point about the metal being a vapor barrier and so moisture will be trapped between the exterior metal and the interior vapor barrier. However, most automotive construction has vent holes and drain holes between the inner (structural) and outer body panels to deal with condensation and leaks around windows etc. It is important when installing insulation that you do not block this ventilation by stuffing all of the supports with wool or spray foam. If you take factory panels off of doors you will see under the upholstered panel a vapor barrier with a sealant applied between the metal inner panel and the vapor barrier. This barrier is to prevent warm moist air from hitting the cold exterior metal other door components. I hope this helps.
Moser Makes There are many videos on van insulation, yet not a lot of agreement on materials or methods, but I feel your two videos here on insulation and vapor barriers clear up all the confusion so that I can proceed with a solid plan for my next van build, somewhere in the next 6 to 8 months.
Five years ago I bought a Chevy Express 3500 and built it into a work van and full-time home. I love this lifestyle, I have never been happier, and I’m ready to repeat the process with a high roof van this time. But I want to build it better, especially the insulation and the electrical and the plumbing. My goal is to have all those decisions made before I buy the van, so that the build can happen rather quickly without delays to research how to do each phase of the build.
Rest assured your videos and comments here are extremely helpful, and I greatly appreciate the clarity, conciseness, time and effort you’ve put into everything.
@@MoserMakes Thank you for your thoughts. I think we can agree that it is complicated and that the last thing you want is moisture in insulation with nowhere to go. A civil engineering prof (John Timusk) from the University of Toronto came up with a house that had dynamic walls he drilled holes in walls between the studs that allow air to flow (slowly) and either cool or warm as it moves from inside to outside. I think that some variation of this might be the solution for van insulation perhaps one or 2 laptop fans on either side.
for a radiant barrier, doesn't the air gap have to be on the outside (aka the radiation source), rather than on any one side?
The best way..to insulate a van..is to pray it snows a foot…lol ..Eskimo talk 😉
Thanks so much for this! How thick of natural wool insulation would you recommend for a Van prepping for a Michigan winter?
The big thing here is not to compress the batts. They will loose r value if you do this. Best to measure your depth then adjust your thickness accordingly. You can peel layers off the batts to adjust for depth variations. Again, don't compress & you'll b fine.
I'd be really interested to have the fire risk/retardant values in these also! Is thinsulate more fire retardant than wool? That would be the only thing making thinsulate the better option
How do you fix Thinsulate to the walls and ceiling of the van? If you do it with glue is there a good glue that doesn’t have off gassing problems? Are there other clever ways of fixing it to the wall? Also if the insulation isn’t covered with wall paneling of some kind will it’s insulation properties suffer much?
Moser Makes
But wall paneling does provide an air gap.
Thanks for the glueless suggestion and link.
Nixt.
ps:
I was a bit confused when you mentioned at the end the sound-deadning isolation without mentioning more
Don't you use Thinsulate for that ?
Thanks !
i believe so
Algorythm come on!!!!
Weight is important for my planning. Kg per m3 would be nice. Cheers.
None are that heavy.
How is cork more sustainable?, they are already using rubber corks for wine because of the cork shortage.
Yes
What about HEMP?
What about Hemp? I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
have you tried it yourself?
Rock Wool is not safer than Fiberglass. Just an FYI.
What about Armaflex?b
After 4 years, covid and camperization business growth... is there some improvement? Some new material? After all your experience, what could be the best combination between cost/insulation and health care of the insulation materials? Thanks
Havelock wool is what I’ve been using the most now.
@@MoserMakes i've seen a lot of enthusiastic (paid) review about that product. Thanks Moser
@@MarcoPi-pq5kg I have no affiliation with them but I've had good experiences in my uses with it and it's cheaper than thinsulate.
@@MoserMakes i don't want to say you made advice for them... My intentions was to say: thanks, i've read Always a lot but there was Paid review, so hearing from you that Is a really good solution Makes me think It Is true and that deserve a try. Sorry if due To my bad english i wrote a rude thing :(
@@MarcoPi-pq5kg all good! I figured that was what you meant
Recycling plastic is best by far
JJ from Outer Banks
Great video. Just can't get use to understand R value, instead of U value (which is regardless of thickness of material). R value is a misleading&confusing American term. Anyway I'll check your other videos, it should be informative.
Insulation is just one of several layers to use in Automotive applications. You can use any type you like. You apply it wrong. You're wasting your money and time...
And yes I tried most of them. Only one way works to stop heat\cold transferring to the inside\outside of the Vehicle. So if you want true four season insulation properties. Learn how to use and install the stuff...
And? So which type do you think is the most effective?
@@TheAllang123 I prefer 3M SM400L..Placed against the bare walls first. Then Radiant Barrier RadiantGUARD XTREME Attic Insulation 1000 sq ft on the outside of that..Making sure you cover all exposed metal surfaces. The roof is a big one. Windows are a heat sink. You can use tint that is applied to the outside. The same stuff they use on Car wraps..
And you don't have to use lots of spray glue. You just want it to stay put. Till you foil wrap over it. Then install your paneling. As the Spray glue will turn to dust any ways.
How much you need depends on you.
People die in fires..more from the smoke..then the flame…cork is known as the smokiest ….you don’t want that ..in your ‘house’…building science 101