All variations of the city's name derive from the original (and current) appellation in Greek: Θεσσαλονίκη (from Θεσσαλός, Thessalos, and Νίκη, Nike), literally translating to "Thessalian Victory" and in origin the name of a princess, Thessalonike of Macedon, who was named so because she was born on the day of the Macedonian victory at the Battle of Crocus Field. Slavs NEVER ruled the city before, neither did bulgarians. The proud Hellenic Republic liberated it from the ottomans in 1912.
Something happened with my first comment, so this one that you saw is out of context. Thessaloniki was founded by Greeks and I said that there was two versions about how Slavs started calling Solun. First one is because Thessaloniki was too hard to pronounce so they adopt short Solun.
Proven by your language? Do you know what Alexander means in Greek? (alexi->keep away, andres -->men) Keep away men, because he was undefeated. Fillip? (Filos ->friend, ippos ->horse) a friend of horses, because he was an excellent rider. Alexander horse's name was Bucephalus (Bus-> Cow, cephalos ->head) because its head was like a cow's head. All these are evidence that they were speaking an ancient greek language. But I guess you are the only decendans of ancient macedonians of course.
The real Macedonia is not just that part in Greece, there is part of Macedonia in Republick of Macedonia too! It is from Prespa to Veles! My granddad and his parents are from a village near the borders of Greece! That means that they are real Macedonians too! Btw ... where are you from ??? Your youtube name MKTikvesh?
MAKEDONSKO IME Makedonsko ime nie imame Makedonsko ime nie slavime Sekoj eden den to e nasa cast Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas Nie nesme Grci nitu Bugari Nije nesme Srbi nitu Albanci Sekoj eden den to e nasa cast Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas Taa e zelja da dojdi den Da zivejme sekoj den vo mir i sloboda Zname Makedonsko to e svetlost nas Zname Makedonsko to e soncen zrag Sekoj eden den to e svetski raj Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas Taa e zelja da dojdi den Da zivejme, vo sekoj den Vo mir i sloboda Vo mir i sloboda
There is a city named Solun located in Inner Mongolia. If you google wikipedia "Solun Inner Mongolia" you find out, where exactly your anchestry is spoted on the map.
That's correct. Hellenes is not a word that describes a tribe and, as you said, there was not a tribe under the name Hellenes. Achaians (Athens) was a tribe. Spartans (Dorians) was a tribe, Ionians, Aiolians ect, were tribes. For some reason though historians were using the word Hellenes for all of those. Therefore, the term Hellenes does not refer to a tribe but rather to group of tribes. As concerning Macedonians, the royal family put it self within this larger group of Hellenes
Second version is that Justinian II gave Solun monopoly to produce salt. Same goes for Constantinople. We call it Carigrad(Tszar-city) but that doesn't mean we found it. Istanbul is Turkish version of name Constantinople so they didn't change its name, they just simplified it to be closer to their language.
@asfaehey right, and I don't actually understand this confusion regarding the identity of the Royal family of Macedon.......I mean....it is pretty clear that they, the Macedonians themselves, said that they are Hellenes by descendants. Not only they said that, but they also PROVED that and they repeated it many times during wars mainly for encouraging the Macedonian army before a fight. I don't know why is so difficult for FYROM to comprehend that.
SKOPIANS I AM GREEK AND I AM FROM THESSALONIKH!!!!SO IF YOU FEEL SO EMBARRASSED BY BEEN SKOPIANS AND YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A LITTLE PIECE OF OUR HISTORY ITS OK WE WONT MAKE YOU CRY,,,,,JUST PLEASE STOP BEEN ANNOYING CAUSE YOU ARE NOT GREEKS AND ALEXANDER WAS TOTALLY GREEK !JUST RELAX IN YOUR CORNER AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THE FACT THAT WE COULD HAVE ALL THE AREA BUT WE ARE NICE PEOPLE AND WE LEFT TO U A LAND TO LIVE ON!
@CAKIMacedonian oh my god! Go out, get some clean air! His kingdom was Macedonia, what makes this different than Greeks. Greeks was in kingdoms and city-states! Persians called all the Greeks Yunans! ALL. And today, all the people of Middle East call us Yunans! They call us Yunans because they knew the Ionians first. Just like the Romans, they knew us as Greeks because they knew the Greek tribe first.
The first Macedonian newspaper ever was published in Vienna by the Macedonian brothers 'Poulios' from Siatista, Macedonia, Greece in 1790,it was called "Efimeris" ("Newspaper" in greek). The earliest Macedonian newspaper in Thessaloniki was the "Ermis" [Hermes] (1875), owned by the Garbola family of publishers, which circulated from 1881 to 1885 as "Pharos tis Makedonias" [Beacon of Macedonia].
Αυτοί ζουν στην παραποίηση της ιστορίας όλη την ζωή τους και όσες αποδείξεις και να του φέρεις θα βρίσκει κάτι άλλο να πει ακόμα και αν είναι βλακεία, γιατί πολύ απλά αν στο τέλος αποδεχτεί την αλήθεια θα παραδεχτεί ότι μια ζωή τον κοροϊδεύανε οπότε είναι πιο εύκολο να τα αρνείται όλα. για αυτόν εμείς είμαστε κατασκευασμένο έθνος το 1830 και πριν ήμασταν άλλα έθνη, κάθε αρχαία πόλη-κράτος ή βασίλειο ήταν ξεχωριστό έθνος και έλληνες δεν υπήρξαν. πιστεύουν ότι υπάρχουν απο 1 έως 5 εκατομμύρια
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independent in what sense? If you mean politically, yes. Administratively, yes. Militarily, in same cases, yes. These were tribes and there are reasons we call them tribes. They were having their own systems. This however does not mean that they were completely different people and the strongest evidence in that is the language and its dialects. These tribes had their own army and they fought each other. When an external enemy was appering then they were fighting together.
@asfaehey There is very small Slavic population in Republick of Macedonia. Maybe you have learned that Slavs came here in 6th century but it is not true, Slavs were there earlyer. Slavs had their own language. Example Slavs are Russians too and they don't came in Balkan for learning language, they had own language. Some greeks say that our names don't have meaning. Example: My name is Петар Илиев, English: Peter Iliev, Greek: Πέτρος Ηλίας My name means rock, stone, mountain (something strong)
Thessaloniki was the name of Philip's II daughter! The ''''Thessaloniki'' was named after her father Philip II, because they learned the birth day of victory over the Thessalians!Θεσσαλονίκη=Θεσσσαλία+νίκη=νίκη επί των Θεσσαλών(Thesssalia+victory) = victory over the Thessalians.General ''Cassander'' order to claim the throne of Macedonia, he married his half sister of Alexander the Great''Thessaloniki''in honor of which founded the city,uniting 26 townships,which were around the Thermaikos Gulf.
Yes they were different nations and countries Sparta Atena Teba etc are city states ,same as now Germany Italy Spain and France are Europeans but different countries and nations,same as Ukraine Russia Belarus Kazakstan are different countries and nations.And another thing present Greeks are not related with any of those old city states People simply because they came from middle east and northern Africa much later after 16,17,18 centuries together with the Ottomans.
@asfaehey Why someone who already have language should adopt another language ??? o.O Slavs didn't adopted anything. Your name means winter from the Greek word "chimon", btw nice name and nice meaning :)) Alexander once was talking with Serbs(slavic tribe) and he helped them for someting. I heard this from one historian.
@asfaehey My nation is 30% Ancient Macedonians, 20% Teutons, 15% Hellens, 15% Slavs, 10% Illyrians, 5% Phoenicians and 5% Hunnians. Ancient Macedonians were speaking Koine language. Old Greeks had own language and it was Arheja language. Macedonians are older than greeks. When greeks(Dorians) came in nowdays Greece there already have been land called Macedonia and people called Macedonians. Btw Slavs were on Balkan earlier, beleive me.
The base of Venetian alphabet was the Phoenician, Greek, Etruscan and Semetic alphabet. Not to mention that the language of Venetians is old Latin, not even close to Slavic. Where did you find similarities? Now you started matching symbols with no base to make it look like with your language so to appropriate plaques with symbols that none has transcripted in the entire world to support your without business paranoia? So all the Slavs are Macedonians now, all but not the Greeks? No despair:P
@CAKIMacedonian LOL Do you create Macedonian religion now? Nika means victory. Normally is "Niki" but in every Doric dialect the long "η" become "α". the etymology is: Thessalia (Thessaly) + Niki (victory) = Thessaloniki. For the victory, in Thessaly!
well skopians say makedonia for makedonians. I agree and say the same : Makedonian for makedonians Why you have the right to say that and we dont I am a proud makedonian and makedonia belongs to me and i speak the makedonian language which is greek
@asfaehey Ok "Stormy" :))) Yes but there was reason why they were speaking greek. Becouse in Byzantian land national language was greek and the greek language was imposed. They had learn greek language, maybe they did not want to but they had. Btw can you tell me what means "Opos trosis takemitis"? :))) Here we have some of the greek words like oti and ela.
The reason you speak English is cuz at 3000k English was voted national language and you had to learn it at 2010. Do you even see what bullshit you write
That's correct. Only Macedonians could decide for Macedonians. Similar, only Spartans (Dorians) could decide for Spartans or Athenians for Athenians. What we have to conclude from that though. Spartans and Athenians are different nations and/or people? No. They are different tribes but same people speaking the same language. Ancient Greece was a territory populated by an indo-european group of people later called Hellenes. This group split-up, initially, in 4 sub-groups and formed 4 tribes.
When Fillipos beated Thessalians, his daugter was born. He gave her a name which means Victory in Thessaly. (Victory = Niki in Greek). Her name was Thessaloniki. This name is 100% Greek, you (Skopians) took that name and converted it to a slavic one "Solun". Even if you call this city Solun, the name has greek origin. Macedonians was a hellenic nation ( if you understand what hellenic means), you came in history in the 10th century.
@Reds1896 he is slavobulgarian gypsy...macedonia is greek!!and you know that!! What was the language in which Aristotle taught Alexander? What language conveyed by Alexander in his campaigns in the East? Because we now ancient inscriptions in Greek cities founded by Alexander, coming to Afghanistan, rather than Slavic? who's right now...??
Click " MUSEUMS OF MACEDONIA " more than 125 in nothern greece! Click " Ancient Macedonians Olympic winners list " on Google! Click " Byzantine Macedonian dynasty "Only greek names.....
@CAKIMacedonian The Greek culture spread to the world. It would be crazy if Alexander spread the Greek culture, if we wasn't Greek. But he was Greek and he spread the Greek culture everywhere! Persians called the conqueros Yunans and Indians Yavannas, that means Greeks
1)Everywhere you dig, you will find greek monuments...!!! 2)The first language in the world was the greek one 3)90% of the english words have greek origin 4)We greeks made the world for you to leave in...!!! 5)They found greek ships in amazonio ocean before colombus 6)All of you have Greek genes = 90% Hellenic History since 40000 BC. Hellas - Cyprus - CONSTANTINOPLE - Asia minor - Macedonia - Northern Epirus = all HELLAS BIG GREECE THE TIME IS NEAR
@CAKIMacedonian hey read better my commet. I wrote that every long "η" in Attic dialcet become "α" to Dorian. That happened to every Dorian dialect. Niki > Nika / Mitir > Matir e.t.c. Even today there are those words to Tsaconians for example (a Dorian dialect) In Greece never was one language, it had too many dialects.. even today.
Conservatorio "MAKEDONIKO" in Thessaloniki from 1926!!!! Newspaper "MAKEDONIA" 1911 Greece, and of course in greek!!!! Newspaper "The Lighthouse of MAKEDONIA" (Φάρος της Μακεδονίας) of course in greek 1887!! 1887!!! Macedonia(Greece)-Vardaska(Jugoslavia) 3-0 Any comment friends from scopja???
@CAKIMacedonian First of all we speak for 300 BC!!! THREE HUNDRED BEFORE CHRIST! That we, the Macedonians, fought against Athens does not means something. Sparta and Athens was always in war! Prophet Daniel (Daniel 8, 21) call Alexander "malak Yavan". That's mean "king of Greeks". In the Persian inscription "Naxi Rustan" the Macedonians called "Yaouna Takabarou" (Greeks with hats). Because they always wore the Kausia.
Makedonia is a greek word. Filipos, megas alexandros are greek names or is the name of alexander the great alexandrovski?? Or is pella in bulgaria?? Pella is in Greece, Macedonia is in Greece, the The letters of the remaining parts of Macedonia are in Greek, so you can not be called Macedonians, just because you live in a leftover piece of Macedonia. Macedonians are Greeks. You are of Bulgarian descent.
but the ancient name of Alexander sister and kassandros wife was THESSALONIKI.SHE GETS THIS NAME BECAUSE she was born the day HIS FATHER PHILLIPOS WON in the place of krokeon-where it belongs to thessalia.But for Makedonians L.T.D is verry Petit letters.makedonians l.t.d" construct"their own books only for use of his people.
Sweet dreams slav ...dream that Makedonia is your country ...will always be a dream.....χαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
??? It seems to me that you are running around your finger. Words, as you said, are invented at some point of history like the word "Hellenes". The biggest propagator of the word Hellenes was Alexander the Great himself and it was widely used by many historians of that time (and not only). I am not quite sure what you mean by "official" word. However, Macedonians was a tribe lice Ionians or Aiolians and didn't claimed to be something else. All these tribes were Hellenic tribes (as they said).
@CAKIMacedonian And did you need a translation? I mean about you are "not" slav :)) You played against Croatia and Montenegro and they speak Slavic. Well today you will play against Greece as Alexander was.As he spoke Greek,had Greek Gods and took part at Olympic games where ONLY Greeks were allowed....or do you can read some ancient inscriptions of Makedonia?Let me guess...NO YOU CANT because you are NOT Greek as Makedons are! YOU ARE SLAV!!!!
@@GamerZz-yu7lw Oh ypu mean when Bulgarian Revolitionaries called Comitatzides, tried to Bulgarise the purely Hellenic (Greek) population but got their asses kicked. That proves nothing
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First answer me what was the name of Alexander's mother??? After you do that go check what wikipedia and BBC's official site write about ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟ ΤΟΝ ΜΕΓΑ!
Macedonia derives from the Greek word Μακεδονία which comes from the adjective Μακεδνός=Macednos=Tall taper. Μάκος=Makos=Μήκος in modern Greek meaning long, length, tall, distance and it is the first part of the word and it is from Doric Greek dialect. Even the name is Greek and you are in such a gall to continue talking!!
I have you another one...English got the word ''make'' from Makedonia right?? Hahahahaha!! Even i personally can find better motives. Don't mention brother. It is my pleasure. Why are you exposing yourself s so much? I will forever wonder!!
Cause your channel doesn't proves a bit the etymology of the word. The etymology is given from historians from the times of Ancient Macedonians and it is the one i said. This is just a hypothesis with no base at all, with no scientific proves, now you made the Latin language your language and the Venetic language your language, right? What follows now...that Greek was ''Macedonian language'' and we stole it? Right now you made yours 3 languages...Venetian, Venetic and Bulgarian. What next??
Οκ this is good...now you have to explain the rest 9.999.999 Greek words with whatever is the same from your language to say ''Greek language is Slavic''!!! Hahahahhahahaa!!! I am not trying to give an explanation. The one i told you is fact...the word Macedonia derives from Μακεδνός, Homer, Herodotus and many others describe the term which Macedonians explained it. Homer describes a big war between coreligionistic and speaking the same language people and th eonly differences mentioned are....
@asfaehey Then tell me what was "Greek" Macedonian part in 1912 year? It was Macedonian and there was not greeks like you!! Now there are 11% of Macedonians in north Greece (Macedonia), all others are Slavs and Greeks! You think that Greece is not slavic state? Ofcourse it is! The most famous Slavic tribes in Greece are Sagudates, Belegezites, Milings, Ezerites, Vainuiti and many more. Btw Macedonia is not just that part in Greece, also ancient cities of Macedonia are Astibo, Heracleas and more.
Το see how hideous is this explanation just to imagine that the word Don was even at the Venetian language which is the old Latin language talked to Latium at first. Your word for lady, miss is completely another one(not even a part of the word is the same with your language). Not to mention that he doesn't even uses any historical explanation for this theory!! So he just said that ''Don is our word and the entire Latins got it from the word Macedonia the time that our word is different.
Yours SNP's have shown relative sequences with people from upper Asia and Caspian areas of Caucasus, exactly where Slavic populations came from. Just random?? I don't think so...experts of DNA!! And if our DNA is closer to African populations, great..all humans came from Africa right?? So we are much older nation in the area than yours!! Ha...ha!!
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Yes you leave in a place where in the ancient years belonged to the Macedonians, but you have nothing in common with those. Accept it, and try to find a national identity, you are a mix of gypsies-albanian-bulgarians-turkish. That is why the Serbians don't think you are one nation.
...entirely geographical like Thucydides who mentions the borders of Epirus, Thessaly, Achaea, Macedonia...etc. There is no mention of different language of Macedonians, nowhere. Not a single linguistic difference except the case of ancient Thracian s who by the way about 60% of their language was entirely Greek words. So yes...etymology?...why don't you start finishing this hideous war of nothing? Cause doesn't matter how you straggle...history shows the truth and shouts ΕΛΛΑΣ!!!
@CAKIMacedonian wasnt you Yugoslavia? And we dont talking about ethnicity but about race.And you ARE SLAVIC race wich MAKEDONS DOES NOT have been but they have been a Greek race from the Dorian tribe.You speak Slavic,you have Slavic Alphabet but you claim to be descedant and connected to Makedons.The whole world knows anout your lies.Even your Bulgarian brothers are loughing about your theories.
I need to confess that Solun is a greek city , but in the past and in the present the city is with big bulgarian minority(macedonian), north greece was populated by bulgarians , but there was a genocide thanks to your grandparents , national heroes and other homosexuals, but even now in northmacedonia a big part of the people speak bulgarian and identify them as bulgarian(macedonian) sorry i just tell the truth , even it hurts
The history of the city of Thessaloniki is 2.300+ years old. Many people stayed there from different ethnicities including Jews, Turks, Romans, Venicians, etc. However, none of these people ever tried to identify themselves as Macedonian except you! You are of Slavic DNA stock, speaking a Bulgarian dialect, but never had a national identity. Now you try to steal Greek names and history. As for the genocide it is only in your pathetic mind.
YOU ARE SLAVS and you have no relation to Μακεδονια οr Alexander the Great. By the way Macedonia Alexandros Filippos Aristotelis Voukefalas are all greek words .You are Slavs and you came much later to the place.That s all... Anything else is nonsence and dreams you wish to be true
All variations of the city's name derive from the original (and current) appellation in Greek: Θεσσαλονίκη (from Θεσσαλός, Thessalos, and Νίκη, Nike), literally translating to "Thessalian Victory" and in origin the name of a princess, Thessalonike of Macedon, who was named so because she was born on the day of the Macedonian victory at the Battle of Crocus Field. Slavs NEVER ruled the city before, neither did bulgarians. The proud Hellenic Republic liberated it from the ottomans in 1912.
Something happened with my first comment, so this one that you saw is out of context. Thessaloniki was founded by Greeks and I said that there was two versions about how Slavs started calling Solun. First one is because Thessaloniki was too hard to pronounce so they adopt short Solun.
Proven by your language?
Do you know what Alexander means in Greek? (alexi->keep away, andres -->men)
Keep away men, because he was undefeated.
Fillip? (Filos ->friend, ippos ->horse) a friend of horses, because he was an excellent rider.
Alexander horse's name was Bucephalus (Bus-> Cow, cephalos ->head) because its head was like a cow's head.
All these are evidence that they were speaking an ancient greek language. But I guess you are the only decendans of ancient macedonians of course.
The real Macedonia is not just that part in Greece, there is part of Macedonia in Republick of Macedonia too! It is from Prespa to Veles! My granddad and his parents are from a village near the borders of Greece! That means that they are real Macedonians too! Btw ... where are you from ??? Your youtube name MKTikvesh?
MAKEDONSKO IME
Makedonsko ime nie imame
Makedonsko ime nie slavime
Sekoj eden den to e nasa cast
Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas
Nie nesme Grci nitu Bugari
Nije nesme Srbi nitu Albanci
Sekoj eden den to e nasa cast
Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas
Taa e zelja da dojdi den
Da zivejme sekoj den
vo mir i sloboda
Zname Makedonsko to e svetlost nas
Zname Makedonsko to e soncen zrag
Sekoj eden den to e svetski raj
Sekoj eden den toj e zivot nas
Taa e zelja da dojdi den
Da zivejme, vo sekoj den
Vo mir i sloboda
Vo mir i sloboda
You're not Greek and Bulgarian. YOU ARE SLAV!!!
You just a slav nothing more nothing less
There is a city named Solun located in Inner Mongolia. If you google wikipedia "Solun Inner Mongolia" you find out, where exactly your anchestry is spoted on the map.
Macedonia is Greek 🇬🇷🇬🇷😍😍
you are bulgarians and your real name is vardarska..MAKEDONIA IS ONLY ONE AND GREEK!!!!!
Ohhh...You are Turkish.litle baby.Macedoni 4 Ever!!!
3 hours and Skopje will be Greece
1 second and athina wil be Macedonian!😠
@@st3fan735 lololololololo
That's correct. Hellenes is not a word that describes a tribe and, as you said, there was not a tribe under the name Hellenes. Achaians (Athens) was a tribe. Spartans (Dorians) was a tribe, Ionians, Aiolians ect, were tribes.
For some reason though historians were using the word Hellenes for all of those. Therefore, the term Hellenes does not refer to a tribe but rather to group of tribes.
As concerning Macedonians, the royal family put it self within this larger group of Hellenes
hahaha xD luckily there is still people with sense of humour!
solun is the turkish name used by the slavs
Second version is that Justinian II gave Solun monopoly to produce salt. Same goes for Constantinople. We call it Carigrad(Tszar-city) but that doesn't mean we found it. Istanbul is Turkish version of name Constantinople so they didn't change its name, they just simplified it to be closer to their language.
Ο θεός να σας ευλογεί , κουφάλες !
@asfaehey
right, and I don't actually understand this confusion regarding the identity of the Royal family of Macedon.......I mean....it is pretty clear that they, the Macedonians themselves, said that they are Hellenes by descendants. Not only they said that, but they also PROVED that and they repeated it many times during wars mainly for encouraging the Macedonian army before a fight.
I don't know why is so difficult for FYROM to comprehend that.
SKOPIANS I AM GREEK AND I AM FROM THESSALONIKH!!!!SO IF YOU FEEL SO EMBARRASSED BY BEEN SKOPIANS AND YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE A LITTLE PIECE OF OUR HISTORY ITS OK WE WONT MAKE YOU CRY,,,,,JUST PLEASE STOP BEEN ANNOYING CAUSE YOU ARE NOT GREEKS AND ALEXANDER WAS TOTALLY GREEK !JUST RELAX IN YOUR CORNER AND SAY THANK YOU FOR THE FACT THAT WE COULD HAVE ALL THE AREA BUT WE ARE NICE PEOPLE AND WE LEFT TO U A LAND TO LIVE ON!
@CAKIMacedonian oh my god! Go out, get some clean air! His kingdom was Macedonia, what makes this different than Greeks. Greeks was in kingdoms and city-states! Persians called all the Greeks Yunans! ALL. And today, all the people of Middle East call us Yunans! They call us Yunans because they knew the Ionians first. Just like the Romans, they knew us as Greeks because they knew the Greek tribe first.
The first Macedonian newspaper ever was published in
Vienna by the Macedonian brothers 'Poulios' from Siatista,
Macedonia, Greece in 1790,it was called "Efimeris"
("Newspaper" in greek). The earliest Macedonian newspaper
in Thessaloniki was the "Ermis" [Hermes] (1875), owned by
the Garbola family of publishers, which circulated from 1881
to 1885 as "Pharos tis Makedonias" [Beacon of
Macedonia].
Αυτοί ζουν στην παραποίηση της ιστορίας όλη την ζωή τους και όσες αποδείξεις και να του φέρεις θα βρίσκει κάτι άλλο να πει ακόμα και αν είναι βλακεία, γιατί πολύ απλά αν στο τέλος αποδεχτεί την αλήθεια θα παραδεχτεί ότι μια ζωή τον κοροϊδεύανε οπότε είναι πιο εύκολο να τα αρνείται όλα. για αυτόν εμείς είμαστε κατασκευασμένο έθνος το 1830 και πριν ήμασταν άλλα έθνη, κάθε αρχαία πόλη-κράτος ή βασίλειο ήταν ξεχωριστό έθνος και έλληνες δεν υπήρξαν. πιστεύουν ότι υπάρχουν απο 1 έως 5 εκατομμύρια
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@@justmyopinion6410 you know the meaning of the word macedonia ?
Macedonia is greece🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
independent in what sense?
If you mean politically, yes. Administratively, yes. Militarily, in same cases, yes.
These were tribes and there are reasons we call them tribes. They were having their own systems. This however does not mean that they were completely different people and the strongest evidence in that is the language and its dialects.
These tribes had their own army and they fought each other. When an external enemy was appering then they were fighting together.
@asfaehey There is very small Slavic population in Republick of Macedonia. Maybe you have learned that Slavs came here in 6th century but it is not true, Slavs were there earlyer. Slavs had their own language. Example Slavs are Russians too and they don't came in Balkan for learning language, they had own language. Some greeks say that our names don't have meaning.
Example: My name is Петар Илиев, English: Peter Iliev, Greek: Πέτρος Ηλίας
My name means rock, stone, mountain (something strong)
Thessaloniki was the name of Philip's II daughter! The ''''Thessaloniki'' was named after her father Philip II, because they learned the birth day of victory over the Thessalians!Θεσσαλονίκη=Θεσσσαλία+νίκη=νίκη επί των Θεσσαλών(Thesssalia+victory) = victory over the Thessalians.General ''Cassander'' order to claim the throne of Macedonia, he married his half sister of Alexander the Great''Thessaloniki''in honor of which founded the city,uniting 26 townships,which were around the Thermaikos Gulf.
@asfaehey
I don't know ...maybe because they were Hellenes as they, themselves said???
Yes they were different nations and countries Sparta Atena Teba etc are city states ,same as now Germany Italy Spain and France are Europeans but different countries and nations,same as Ukraine Russia Belarus Kazakstan are different countries and nations.And another thing present Greeks are not related with any of those old city states People simply because they came from middle east and northern Africa much later after 16,17,18 centuries together with the Ottomans.
@asfaehey Why someone who already have language should adopt another language ??? o.O Slavs didn't adopted anything. Your name means winter from the Greek word "chimon", btw nice name and nice meaning :)) Alexander once was talking with Serbs(slavic tribe) and he helped them for someting. I heard this from one historian.
@asfaehey My nation is 30% Ancient Macedonians, 20% Teutons, 15% Hellens, 15% Slavs, 10% Illyrians, 5% Phoenicians and 5% Hunnians. Ancient Macedonians were speaking Koine language. Old Greeks had own language and it was Arheja language. Macedonians are older than greeks. When greeks(Dorians) came in nowdays Greece there already have been land called Macedonia and people called Macedonians. Btw Slavs were on Balkan earlier, beleive me.
The base of Venetian alphabet was the Phoenician, Greek, Etruscan and Semetic alphabet. Not to mention that the language of Venetians is old Latin, not even close to Slavic. Where did you find similarities? Now you started matching symbols with no base to make it look like with your language so to appropriate plaques with symbols that none has transcripted in the entire world to support your without business paranoia? So all the Slavs are Macedonians now, all but not the Greeks? No despair:P
@CAKIMacedonian LOL Do you create Macedonian religion now?
Nika means victory.
Normally is "Niki" but in every Doric dialect the long "η" become "α".
the etymology is: Thessalia (Thessaly) + Niki (victory) = Thessaloniki.
For the victory, in Thessaly!
well skopians say makedonia for makedonians. I agree and say the same : Makedonian for makedonians Why you have the right to say that and we dont I am a proud makedonian and makedonia belongs to me and i speak the makedonian language which is greek
@asfaehey Ok "Stormy" :)))
Yes but there was reason why they were speaking greek. Becouse in Byzantian land national language was greek and the greek language was imposed. They had learn greek language, maybe they did not want to but they had. Btw can you tell me what means "Opos trosis takemitis"? :))) Here we have some of the greek words like oti and ela.
The reason you speak English is cuz at 3000k English was voted national language and you had to learn it at 2010. Do you even see what bullshit you write
That's correct. Only Macedonians could decide for Macedonians. Similar, only Spartans (Dorians) could decide for Spartans or Athenians for Athenians. What we have to conclude from that though. Spartans and Athenians are different nations and/or people?
No. They are different tribes but same people speaking the same language.
Ancient Greece was a territory populated by an indo-european group of people later called Hellenes. This group split-up, initially, in 4 sub-groups and formed 4 tribes.
When Fillipos beated Thessalians, his daugter was born. He gave her a name which means Victory in Thessaly. (Victory = Niki in Greek). Her name was Thessaloniki.
This name is 100% Greek, you (Skopians) took that name and converted it to a slavic one "Solun". Even if you call this city Solun, the name has greek origin. Macedonians was a hellenic nation ( if you understand what hellenic means), you came in history in the 10th century.
Maybe is name Solun from Slavic word SOL (Salt) SOL-un!
In Croatia was city SOL-in on Adriatic sea!
The Sister of Great Alexander was Thessalonike and not Solun.
@Reds1896 he is slavobulgarian gypsy...macedonia is greek!!and you know that!!
What was the language in which Aristotle taught Alexander?
What language conveyed by Alexander in his campaigns in the East?
Because we now ancient inscriptions in Greek cities founded by Alexander, coming to Afghanistan, rather than Slavic?
who's right now...??
In the matter of fact we are stronger than you think ;)
ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟΝΙΚΗ from ΘΕΣΣΑΛΟ-ΝΙΚΗ
Tesalia (capital=Larissa) Niki =Victory
THESSALONIKI
Θεσσαλονίκη was also a sister of Alexandrer
Click " MUSEUMS OF MACEDONIA " more than 125 in
nothern greece!
Click " Ancient Macedonians Olympic winners list " on
Google!
Click " Byzantine Macedonian dynasty "Only greek
names.....
nice clip...dont give up Macedonians...true clip is great to see....
Space landing on the surface of the sun are more believable than those
@CAKIMacedonian The Greek culture spread to the world. It would be crazy if Alexander spread the Greek culture, if we wasn't Greek.
But he was Greek and he spread the Greek culture everywhere!
Persians called the conqueros Yunans and Indians Yavannas, that means Greeks
that's correct.For athenians was Mhthr,for Doriv(Macedonians)was mater
Did you guys know.. that in Ancient Macedonia,the capital of the Macedonian empire was Solun?
WELL YOU DO NOW
Trololo
1)Everywhere you dig, you will find greek monuments...!!!
2)The first language in the world was the greek one
3)90% of the english words have greek origin
4)We greeks made the world for you to leave in...!!!
5)They found greek ships in amazonio ocean before colombus
6)All of you have Greek genes = 90%
Hellenic History since 40000 BC.
Hellas - Cyprus - CONSTANTINOPLE - Asia minor - Macedonia - Northern Epirus = all HELLAS
BIG GREECE
THE TIME IS NEAR
@CAKIMacedonian In every ancien Indian text about Macedonians they call them "Yavanna" or "Yonaka"
Prophecies of Saints
2 countries will become 1
xa xa xa
THE TIME IS NEAR
@Beojotaen
I don't expect clever comments from silly ppl .... only fools laugh like that.
I doubt if you understand what irony and metaphor are.
@CAKIMacedonian hey read better my commet. I wrote that every long "η" in Attic dialcet become "α" to Dorian. That happened to every Dorian dialect.
Niki > Nika / Mitir > Matir e.t.c.
Even today there are those words to Tsaconians for example (a Dorian dialect)
In Greece never was one language, it had too many dialects.. even today.
The ancient Macedonians say the city Thessaloniki and not solun.
solun is the Slavic name
Brothers of macedonia are you with us against greece ?
Da živee Makedonija.R.M R.M
NASE KE BIDE I SOLUNSKO POLE ALE ALE!!!!!!
Conservatorio "MAKEDONIKO" in Thessaloniki from 1926!!!!
Newspaper "MAKEDONIA" 1911 Greece, and of course in greek!!!!
Newspaper "The Lighthouse of MAKEDONIA" (Φάρος της Μακεδονίας) of course in greek 1887!! 1887!!!
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Any comment friends from scopja???
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MAKEDONIA WAS IS AND ALLWAYS BE HELLENIC!!!
@CAKIMacedonian First of all we speak for 300 BC!!! THREE HUNDRED BEFORE CHRIST! That we, the Macedonians, fought against Athens does not means something. Sparta and Athens was always in war!
Prophet Daniel (Daniel 8, 21) call Alexander "malak Yavan". That's mean "king of Greeks".
In the Persian inscription "Naxi Rustan" the Macedonians called "Yaouna Takabarou" (Greeks with hats). Because they always wore the Kausia.
@Bumgetear It means Ilija's (Ηλίας's) ... (Ilija is name)
Makedonia is a greek word. Filipos, megas alexandros are greek names or is the name of alexander the great alexandrovski?? Or is pella in bulgaria?? Pella is in Greece, Macedonia is in Greece, the The letters of the remaining parts of Macedonia are in Greek, so you can not be called Macedonians, just because you live in a leftover piece of Macedonia. Macedonians are Greeks. You are of Bulgarian descent.
If you ever study history in school about 1913?
but the ancient name of Alexander sister and kassandros wife was THESSALONIKI.SHE GETS THIS NAME BECAUSE she was born the day HIS FATHER PHILLIPOS WON in the place of krokeon-where it belongs to thessalia.But for Makedonians L.T.D is verry Petit letters.makedonians l.t.d" construct"their own books only for use of his people.
@CAKIMacedonian no your language is south slavic.
OK say to me that MACEDONIA is yours! say to me your arguments! YOU DON'T HAVE! .l.
@asfaehey Yes yes i know what means oti and ela becouse we are using them :))
Sweet dreams slav ...dream that Makedonia is your country ...will always be a dream.....χαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχαχ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It seems to me that you are running around your finger.
Words, as you said, are invented at some point of history like the word "Hellenes".
The biggest propagator of the word Hellenes was Alexander the Great himself and it was widely used by many historians of that time (and not only). I am not quite sure what you mean by "official" word. However, Macedonians was a tribe lice Ionians or Aiolians and didn't claimed to be something else. All these tribes were Hellenic tribes (as they said).
@CAKIMacedonian And did you need a translation? I mean about you are "not" slav :)) You played against Croatia and Montenegro and they speak Slavic. Well today you will play against Greece as Alexander was.As he spoke Greek,had Greek Gods and took part at Olympic games where ONLY Greeks were allowed....or do you can read some ancient inscriptions of Makedonia?Let me guess...NO YOU CANT because you are NOT Greek as Makedons are! YOU ARE SLAV!!!!
0:24 "solun will be the capital of macedonia again"
when was it the capital of it?
@Canale con le cose belle in 1912 just before Macedonia was partitioned between Greece, Bulgaria and Serbia... get it ?!
@@GamerZz-yu7lw Oh ypu mean when Bulgarian Revolitionaries called Comitatzides, tried to Bulgarise the purely Hellenic (Greek) population but got their asses kicked. That proves nothing
@@GamerZz-yu7lw Try to read a Universal History Book, not your propaganda shit, and you'll learn the truth
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Solun,not Thessawhatever.
@263NightWolf263 σημαινει κατι στη δικη σου γλωσσα ιλιεβ?
First answer me what was the name of Alexander's mother???
After you do that go check what wikipedia and BBC's official site write about ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟ ΤΟΝ ΜΕΓΑ!
@CAKIMacedonian strike out for food? is that your best shot? come on i will give you one more chance xD
@CAKIMacedonian Speak Macedonian re malaka see how well you know the Greek alphabet and language. By the way im born in Thessaloniki.
@CAKIMacedonian If your constitution was written in ancient macedonian probably I could read it but you not.
Macedonia derives from the Greek word Μακεδονία which comes from the adjective Μακεδνός=Macednos=Tall taper. Μάκος=Makos=Μήκος in modern Greek meaning long, length, tall, distance and it is the first part of the word and it is from Doric Greek dialect. Even the name is Greek and you are in such a gall to continue talking!!
I have you another one...English got the word ''make'' from Makedonia right?? Hahahahaha!! Even i personally can find better motives. Don't mention brother. It is my pleasure. Why are you exposing yourself s so much? I will forever wonder!!
KAVLI = PSOLUN.
Anything else??
yes
@CAKIMacedonian
You sound more Greek day by day ;)
@lalakinos
Thats What You Did to Real Greeks .... Right ?....
Cause your channel doesn't proves a bit the etymology of the word. The etymology is given from historians from the times of Ancient Macedonians and it is the one i said. This is just a hypothesis with no base at all, with no scientific proves, now you made the Latin language your language and the Venetic language your language, right? What follows now...that Greek was ''Macedonian language'' and we stole it? Right now you made yours 3 languages...Venetian, Venetic and Bulgarian. What next??
Οκ this is good...now you have to explain the rest 9.999.999 Greek words with whatever is the same from your language to say ''Greek language is Slavic''!!! Hahahahhahahaa!!! I am not trying to give an explanation. The one i told you is fact...the word Macedonia derives from Μακεδνός, Homer, Herodotus and many others describe the term which Macedonians explained it. Homer describes a big war between coreligionistic and speaking the same language people and th eonly differences mentioned are....
@asfaehey Then tell me what was "Greek" Macedonian part in 1912 year? It was Macedonian and there was not greeks like you!! Now there are 11% of Macedonians in north Greece (Macedonia), all others are Slavs and Greeks! You think that Greece is not slavic state? Ofcourse it is! The most famous Slavic tribes in Greece are Sagudates, Belegezites, Milings, Ezerites, Vainuiti and many more. Btw Macedonia is not just that part in Greece, also ancient cities of Macedonia are Astibo, Heracleas and more.
0:21 Arab?
Το see how hideous is this explanation just to imagine that the word Don was even at the Venetian language which is the old Latin language talked to Latium at first. Your word for lady, miss is completely another one(not even a part of the word is the same with your language). Not to mention that he doesn't even uses any historical explanation for this theory!! So he just said that ''Don is our word and the entire Latins got it from the word Macedonia the time that our word is different.
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Yours SNP's have shown relative sequences with people from upper Asia and Caspian areas of Caucasus, exactly where Slavic populations came from. Just random?? I don't think so...experts of DNA!! And if our DNA is closer to African populations, great..all humans came from Africa right?? So we are much older nation in the area than yours!! Ha...ha!!
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@CAKIMacedonian Sure it was pal keep deluding yourself
Yes you leave in a place where in the ancient years belonged to the Macedonians, but you have nothing in common with those. Accept it, and try to find a national identity, you are a mix of gypsies-albanian-bulgarians-turkish. That is why the Serbians don't think you are one nation.
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS - MAKEDONIJA ZA MAKEDONCITE .
another body in a coma.....sad to be brainwashed
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
learn ancient Greek
learn History
...entirely geographical like Thucydides who mentions the borders of Epirus, Thessaly, Achaea, Macedonia...etc. There is no mention of different language of Macedonians, nowhere. Not a single linguistic difference except the case of ancient Thracian s who by the way about 60% of their language was entirely Greek words. So yes...etymology?...why don't you start finishing this hideous war of nothing? Cause doesn't matter how you straggle...history shows the truth and shouts ΕΛΛΑΣ!!!
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@asfaehey Maybe you are from Macedonia but you are not Macedonian !!!
This is the problem. Slavs claiming MACEDINIA name and culture. What does Ma edinia mean slav? Ask a Fyromian and he can't answer you
@CAKIMacedonian wasnt you Yugoslavia? And we dont talking about ethnicity but about race.And you ARE SLAVIC race wich MAKEDONS DOES NOT have been but they have been a Greek race from the Dorian tribe.You speak Slavic,you have Slavic Alphabet but you claim to be descedant and connected to Makedons.The whole world knows anout your lies.Even your Bulgarian brothers are loughing about your theories.
if u call urself macedonian then ur greek
I need to confess that Solun is a greek city , but in the past and in the present the city is with big bulgarian minority(macedonian), north greece was populated by bulgarians , but there was a genocide thanks to your grandparents , national heroes and other homosexuals, but even now in northmacedonia a big part of the people speak bulgarian and identify them as bulgarian(macedonian) sorry i just tell the truth , even it hurts
The history of the city of Thessaloniki is 2.300+ years old. Many people stayed there from different ethnicities including Jews, Turks, Romans, Venicians, etc. However, none of these people ever tried to identify themselves as Macedonian except you! You are of Slavic DNA stock, speaking a Bulgarian dialect, but never had a national identity. Now you try to steal Greek names and history. As for the genocide it is only in your pathetic mind.
YOU ARE SLAVS and you have no relation to Μακεδονια οr Alexander the Great. By the way Macedonia Alexandros Filippos Aristotelis Voukefalas are all greek words .You are Slavs and you came much later to the place.That s all... Anything else is nonsence and dreams you wish to be true