CANCEL CULTURE | the rise of "call out culture" with Fully Raw Kristina and Cash
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- I sit down with Fully Raw Kristina and Cash to discuss the social phenomenon and rise of cancel culture. Sometimes more accurately described as “call out culture,” it collectively attempts to harm the reputation, social presence, and sometimes even livelihood for violating a particular ideological standard.
At this point in her career, Fully Raw Kristina has been “called-out” more times than one can count. In this episode she shares her personal stories, how she handles the mob rule, where she came from, and where she is today. Cash, her boyfriend, brings insight into many of the specific events Kristina has gone through and his support for her. Together we unpack, dissect and reflect on what cancel culture means for our society, it’s consequences, and how we can move forward.
This episode covers
- Kristina and Cash’s relationship story
- Their life in Hawaii, garden goals and plans
- Dissecting cancel culture and what encourages social media mob rule
- Self censorship and the current political environment online
- The times Kristina has been “called out” throughout her online career
- The Veg News fiasco
- social media during the George Floyd protests
- Self acceptance: It isn’t your job to make everyone like you
- How you’ll never be criticized by someone who is doing more than you
- Hate videos/comments vs constructive criticism
- The watering down of important labels
- living in an echo chamber: the consequences of labeling everyone who disagrees with you as morally repugnant
- If ill intent versus being well intentioned changes anything
- And moreeee.
WHERE TO FIND CASH AND KRISTINA
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This video out of all the videos so far really clicked and shifted something within me that I didn’t know even needed shifted. I appreciate you Ellen and Kristin and Cash for sharing and inspiring so many people
Thank you for sharing and listening!❤️
✨you will love Project Veritas UA-cam channel
I am still wanting to know how Cash and Kristina broke up, being that they seem to be SO close here.
@@SuiGenerisAbbie I think it’s important to know that each individual person is entitled to their privacy and you can see Kristina visibly standing her ground to cash once when he was talking like she wasn’t there. You can see it’s not perfect. No relationship is. She shares so much of her life publicly and she is aloud to have privacy. Who are you or anyone myself included to demand to know something so delicate? If it was something she wanted to share she would. And maybe she will in time. He has spoken his peace about it and his side ish.. but they both are humans and they both have the right to not address their private lives
@@SuiGenerisAbbie I think they have love but need different things. He seemed to miss his culture and his people. If you know the Kauai experience...it's pretty rural...
I doubt LOVE would be enough for most people there especially Black, Latino, and anyone else who have a sexy beautiful culture to love and miss....
I’ve followed Kristina almost since the beginning of her channel. This was long before I went vegan. She’s always seemed like such a genuine and kind person. I’ve never heard her speak negatively of anyone. I loved this more in depth conversation with her and Cash. What wonderful people.
I have been following Kristina for about five years now and I have to admit her content lately has not felt all that authentic to me. However after having listened to this, it makes sense that a person would become more publicly guarded and self protective as they age and get "canceled" by people who know nothing about them. This podcast format, to me as a long time watcher, felt so pure and honest and reminded me why I do appreciate that she shares any part of herself online at all. I'm going to adjust my expectations going forward and remember to appreciate rather than expect. Much love for this fantastic conversation!
Thank you Ellen for having Kristina and Cash on your podcast. Ill be honest, when I saw the VegNews post about Kristina, my heart was saddened. I didn't look more into the claims or even into the story, I am a busy mom and didn't take the time I should have. I appreciate you giving them a platform to tell their story and a safe place to share thought and advice. I have a newfound respect for Kristina and I am thankful for you all! Love to you!
Hello, lovely people. It's so nice to be a part of respectful and kind conversations. When done right, the things we don't view similarly seem to become so few and so insignificant - paling by comparison with how many things we discover we have in common.
I really enjoyed listening/watching this Podcast. At 65 years old I can confirm it is not a new thing to be cancel cultured it was definitely going on in my youth however where my heart goes out for you all is that it is made so public now I honestly don't know how such tender hearts and minds can cope with the vindictiveness. My Mother always told me to never judge anyone's actions or words until I had walked a mile in their shoes it took me many years to understand what she meant but she was right and I that's how I try and live my life now. The one I taught my own children was 'Bitterness is a poison you drink yourself and wait for the other person to die' I have found this one so true in my life as well. Ellen, Kristina & Cash thank you for the Podcast I wish you all much love, light, joy and happiness in your lives. 😘X
Such a beautiful podcast. Thank you Helen. I have been following Kristina for many years and I remember that she shared about the co-op closing and she going through tough times with people around her. I wanted to reach to her to tell her that her global community is so much bigger than a small group of negative people. Her global community consists of many different kinds of people, vegan and non vegan. I am not vegan but I love her messages and her recipes. Often critics come from people from small tight knits groups close to home, and sometimes understanding and compassion come from unexpected groups of people. So Kristina, best is to reflect and take what happened as part of your journey. You are here today on this podcast with a deep message because of all this. Your loving community is bigger than you imagined. Big love from the island of Mauritius in the Indian Ocean. Xoxo
This episode was amazing! You are all three so grounded and well adjusted! Love to see humans interacting in such a compassionate way…this is the way forward for all of us!
Oh Ellen! You are a true instrument of peace and light. I love who you are!! The world is a better place because of your existence and the light you bring to others! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
What an awesome conversation... humanity is experiencing SO much division... thank you Ellen, Christina and Cash!
thank you for joining and listening!
Thank you Ellen for making this happen! THIS conversation was very therapeutic! Love Cash! Love Kristina! Love you Ellen! Your energies fuel my heart with inspiration.. grateful and honored to see the light shared on matters of "call out culture"... love love love this episode!!
Cash is clearly very intelligent and well spoken but I’m not sure he actually likes her. This woman really needs to take care of herself.
I think they can be Friends But Not more
Kristina is such an amazing human being, is so sad how people can be so hateful in the online space. If you wouldn’t do that in person why do you feel entitled to do so online. It is still just as hurtful especially towards someone who only tries to spread positivity though her platform.
Agreed!! People just only see from their own limited perspective and many are jealous (of course!) She’s beautiful successful kind, and living her dream.
Way to go Kristina!! So excited to see my two favorite UA-camrs getting together. 😘♥️✨
They are both inspiring to meeeeee
Agreed! Kristina is an amazing human being with zero ill intent toward others. She'll ALWAYS have my full support. She has kept me inspired for years. Haters can sucks it.
It pretty much shows how people really feel. In public they always comply but when they know they cannot be caught due to anonymity they can finally release their rage. In some sense it's better though they do this online than in real life. However, it is deeply disturbing that people have so much frustration inside of them. That tells a lot about the fragile state of society that only works because people are scared of doing such things in public. Fear is the easiest tool to govern after all ...
@@laaaliiiluuu do you know we are in democracy? I've never been rude in my comment on Kris' videos. But if I think that take 20 supplements means that her diet is deficient, I have the right to write it
@@paolarosichetti899 It's not that people express their opinion that is bothersome. It is HOW they do it that is bothersome. Instead of a rational discourse many people just aggressively fight each other.
Hi Kristina and Cash. This is a avid follower who cares deeply about your beautiful cause in making food medicine and have a genuine love for people and appreciate just how important you both are in making life worth living by continuing to encourage this epic life style that could change life as we know it. My name is Warnell but my friends call me Nelly. I remember my best friend Barbara who introduced me to one of your youtube videos for the first time about 3 or even 4 years ago. I was going through a tough time trying loose weight and other health issues that made me feel very discouraged about my future. When I saw one of your videos I immediately became obsessed with your lifestyle. So I remember watching video after video for about at least a good 4 hours that day. And I haven't stopped watching since. I have had your app for over 2 years that I follow as many times in a day as possible. I have never felt better about following anyone on social media as I do with you. Sometimes I can loose myself and watch your app or youtube videos for a very lengthy amount of time regularly. lol. I say these things because when I look at you both with the energy and the genuine love you have for this lifestyle and each other I am at peace because I remind myself that not all people are evil and that what you have is what the whole world is poorly lacking in.... Innocence and true love and happiness. Each time I watch any video from you I close my eyes and imagine a better place a world that is brought back to perfection beauty vitality and love. It is truly paradisaic. I image a perfect world with perfect people eating wholesome food that God intended for us to eat in the first place and where no one will harm you. sometimes that's what keeps me going everyday no matter how hard life gets. It gives me peace of mind and always puts me in a better mood. I already know that you are overwhelmed with all the comments and can't possibly read them all or ones you don't want to read. But if you are reading this please know that I consider both of you as close friends I just haven't met yet and you have given me a better outlook on my life and circumstances. Not everyone is out to get you. Some of us rely on you everyday and your encouragement and motivation to better our lives and to give us a natural high through food. You need to know you are loved and appreciated . Thank you for giving me and all of us really something wholesome and wonderful to watch everyday. your follower , warnell.mobley@gmail.com
I don’t think if I can agree with the idea of “I can only love you fully if you could do this first “…..
Kristina and Cash have now split apart -- he went back to live in Houston. He sounds here like he basically wants all of her time, almost like he wanted to control who she saw, and their life in Hawaii seemed all about him. I'm happy for her now.
Totally agreed. I hope the best for them x
What a load of crap 😂
Oh please. Get a life. You don't know any of these people.
Lmao it's absolutely opposite, he left to socialise, have fun, meet people and enjoy great food, she remains the in complete isolation depriving her of ANY fun that the world and food brings, lmao, she was the oppressor and not him!
@@kimberella2105 completely agree with you, huge trainload of crap, lol
Ironic, a few days later he abandons the woman and the lifestyle. He must have been miserable. They looked like an instagram couple but not like a genuinly happy couple. Can’t imagine the way she must feel abandoned in Hawaii and far from family. She should have kept her private intimate life off camera and not mix a man with her brand.
Ya, but did u hear how he supported her passion? I'm really wondering was he legit in the beginning...I'm feeling so bad for her now.....he knew what he was getting into so I'm wondering why the sudden bail out. Maybe his intentions were true though and he ended up just not being able to handle it. He said..shecwas thinking I didn't want her...whoa...she was feeling the vibe....he didn't want her and she knew it.....omg...I think he wasn't ready for more than friendship......damn......I'm so sorry for them both.
Kristina is cool! She was always transparent about herself, her goals, and her relationships. Even people married for decades still divorce, why not two young people who were just dating?
@@pohanahawaii You’re right about that. We all try with best hopes and intentions and sometimes we fail at relationships, learn lessons. I’m just happy (for her) she isn’t addressing his drama and the breakup in any way, keeping her private life to herself, as she should be. He didn’t deserve her one bit judging by the maturity level of how he exited. But I don’t agree with your “they were just dating” - just dating is when you go on dates and try someone out. Not when you move in to live together, let alone move together to a whole new country to start a new home there.
@@KrisssValnor Hawai'i is not another country though it may seem like it 😏. I maintain that you never know what people are really like until you're stuck with them 24/7 for a long period of time (like recent COVID lockdown.) And after some personal experiences, I think for relationships to happily last, it seems you have to share the same core values, life goals, and financial outlook as well. Otherwise, it'll just be too much arguments, silent resentment, or passive aggressive words/behavior.
@@pohanahawaii Absolutely. And I cannot believe I wrote “another country”, I must have been very tired 😄
This podcast it’s the best thing I could experience today… I’m so grateful to have the chance to listen to it and reflect on my perspective about how people perceive me and how much self-doubt I’ve built up during time… I’ve also loved to Know better Kristina and Ash…Thank you so much Ellen 🙏🏻❤️
Jenna marbles another beautiful person canceled for something in her past as she grew into the person she is now. The fact that people do forget about humanity and what it means to be human. We grow learn and change.
It’s super nice to hear kristina and cash. I like listening to her she’s a great person and I don’t know him much but his voice is so chill i love it! I’m glad to hear her story from her mouth and not from strangers with assumptions. Great episode thanks guys!
They broke up
@@andyanderson6522 ???
I keep pausing this and coming back to it so I can make it last as long as possible. Kristina was the first UA-camr I found when my family went vegan. We were excited to learn she also lived in Houston and always hoped to make it to her co-op but weren't able to before it closed. My son loves her energy. ❤
I'm not sure I could ask out a guy 3 times and he says no.... Kristina is a beautiful vegan 🌱
I ❤️ her channel
She's a little crazy. Didn't she smear VegNews in this video? And she clearly ACTS in her videos. She acts NICE. But then she calls some vegan's 'vampires'.
This was such an insightful and thought-provoking conversation that I needed to hear today. I absolutely love Kristina, and I am so grateful for the content she puts out! Totally a fan and a loving supporter who believes that she is only full of grace, love and beauty - a pure and lovely spirit. That's it!
I have so much love appreciation and respect for Kristina and Cash . I agree they are both so humble and Kristina has experienced so much of the call out and cancel culture.so much love respect and wisdom being shared in this space .
they are both truly wonderful people!
@@theellenfisherpodcast they are both such humble ,caring individuals . You choose amazing people for these podcasts
I love Kristina! She’s beautiful inside and out ! Cash is such a gentleman 💕❤️!!
Kristina and Cash are so amazing and I absolutely love what Kristina does in the world and how she put herself out here/there for all of us. I have been following fullyraw Kristina for eons.. I love her and I have been on a lot of her challenges. I just love her and her energy. I find her absolutely so genuine, beautiful and amazing. She and Cash are so sweet together and I love how they were speaking about healthy boundaries, that is a tough one for me and a friend is teaching me that right now. It is really not easy but my friend is right, but it is not easy to do with close friends and people I love.
You do realize these two broke up right after this?
What a great conversation! All you three of you shed so much positive light in this world and often times your light attracts those darker energies who set out to destroy. You all have grown through these challenging times and handled it with grace, compassion and self love. I admire how you've all stayed in your authenticity and are genuinely trying to make this world a better place by sharing your knowledge and aspects of your life while keeping healthy boundaries and not letting the haters live rent free in your head. Love the integrity you all bring to the table and how you stand strong in your own truths. Well done! Fantastic podcast❤️
Such a wonderful Podcast Ellen. You highlighted two of my favorite people…so I subscribed to all of your SM 😂 Kristina is such a beautiful soul and I have followed her for years. She has helped me so much since 2014 to treat my body with wholesome healthy food and in the process watching her grow into the kind, empathetic human this world needs. The World 🌎 needs people like you and Kristina to use your platform to bring people back to oneness. We are each other’s keeper. Continue to smash divisions by showing how we are all one. Loved Cash’s perspectives, he is her Soul Mate. The Universe has called you and Kristina to continue to do the work. Big Love ❤️ from my Heart to Yours…Keep Walking in the Light ✨✨✨
Ellen was MADE to podcast. 🎤 🥰
awe thank you so much!
Yes she’s a natural!
I 100% agree. She's great!
@@yc5000 Yes she seems to have found her mission. And yes, considering the troubled situation outside and the division through humanity, we - the people - have to find an new paradigm.
Thank you all for this real raw honest deep diving conversation! 🙏✨
Very good words said ❤️
It's fascinating the way more evolved people like these get so heavily criticized and torn down. People get so triggered into their own shame when they see anyone who has something they haven't developed yet. Who would ever think that being more loving makes others hate you, but it does. I only watched the intro but what Cash and Kristina said at the opening was spot on.
Cash you are solid, peace be with you✨✨😍
This is a beautiful, kind, truthful, and insightful podcast. Thank you both, so much!
thank you! thank you for your support and listening
I just love Kristina she is so down to Earth
Lmaooo, what a joke
This was such a beautiful, open and authentic conversation. So grateful for humans like you all! ❤️
So insightful to hear the real stories behind all the madness. Kristina is a light to this world and doesn't deserve that negative energy. Such a strong being to still be showing up and shining through it all💕. Cash is clearly an awesome guy and I'm glad they have each other. Some feedback: I would have loved to hear more from Kristina, after a while it felt like very Cash and Ellen dominant. Kristina seems to be the person to only speak when space is given and I don't think it was given 🙏🏾 Just thoughts for your future guests 😉💖 Thanks for having her on, been a long-time fan of Kristina 👑
I think the whole point of Kristina to go on Ellen's show was for Ellen to defend her, so it made sense for Ellen to speak more. Kristina makes videos all the time, she has all the time in the world to speak her mind. So many vegans attacked Kristina that Ellen went on a limb to defend her. SO that was Ellen's moment to state her thoughts. The same with Cash...people wanted to hear what Cash thought.
@@naturalhealing7209 I think that's an insightful take, considering the conversation topic. I, also, don't think Kristina needs anyone to defend her when she's fully capable of speaking for and standing up for herself, how she mentioned in this podcast. I think kind constructive feedback can help anyone grow in their new podcast journey ⭐ I hope Ellen's future guest can benefit from more space to speak on their own behalf
Such a wonderful discussion. I really loved Kristinas last point that we should attempt to foster unity rather than division in our online and real life conversations. Beautiful!
Words just hit differently when they're expressed with the purest intentions and respect coming from a place of growndesness! Beautiful podcast Ellen.
I'd love to hear a conversation around you alls position in Hawaii, you all take up space and gentrify the space (not attacking) but I do wonder how you all feel when you hear ppl categorize you as colonizers. I'm very much on the fence about things like this because I live on an island slightly similar to Hawaii, being overrun but by statesiders at a very fast rate and very little of them care for the people and the culture, its hard not to want to cancel them when you see your home disappearing.
@@user-yp6xj5xp1b really?? Wow this is... hurtful really upset I even followed this family for soo many years now.
I didn't pay that much attention..... but thats wild. I def saw the Candace Owen's thing... but even i have friends who slightly support Trump and have mixed views about Candace... but the idea that they don't care that they might be adding to the eraser of a community is disgusting.
@@Hazardz09 wow, maybe you should listen to this podcast one more time. Isn´t this exactly call out culture? Assuming something about Ellen and her family, even though she is not politicly active on her channel or insta, so what do you know. You seem really hurt by this, but you dont even now if it is true or not, furthermore, if was... so what? She is amazing person and politics is so complex guys. Just saying and reminding you to not jump on conclusions. Love :))
@@nikolazvrskovcova1865 doesn't seem like you really read my comment her political views aren't too much of my concern. I mentioned having friends who support Trump and tend to not hold that against anyone, my issue is their position on the island and I never said I was canceling them I said I was hurt 1. Because I know she read the comment and won't or hasn't acknowledged it 2. Because I feel like if you are gonna love a place sooo much and not highlight the issue, cause it's a big issue, that you are a part of and not maybe give some advice to expats about how to avoid being an issue or suggest how they can help the community etc.. I've listened to the podcast 2 times. In terms of ppls intentions behind posts not being malicious I can totally get that, at the same I'd ask them to be more realistic about their post the whole world is watching and not everyone is gonna slow down to research your intention, and the fact that some issues go straight over their heads are on first glance very offensive thats just the reality of it. It's a business first and foremost.
@@nikolazvrskovcova1865 she and her husband are pro life but support I*srael a apartheid state that brutalizes and arrests and tries children under a military court . They value unborn Christian white children lives only
14:30 sounds a little crazy for me.. Kristina asking him three times to date her and he refuses giving her conditions, situations they have to deal with before dating while being always in contact just not dating? Would not be better to deal with everything with a support of the SO? And Ellen being amazed by this?
Hm...
Having listened this with knowing they did break up..
Me never wanted to actually wanted to be with her…
Something really resonated with me that Kristina said. Shem said something along the lines of every possible thing that could have been perceived as wrong were used against her and it made me think how common that hat occurs but we fairly seem to collect all of the good or positivity that someone has done/shares. I think a lot of growth could happen and a good impact could be achieved if we all strives to collect the good of people. Of course there are circumstances when the bad of someone’s actions will truly out weight anyway good and they will be deserving of just consequences but as a general rule let’s not collect the 10% bad of 100% of someone’s overall life…There’s still that 90% good! Let’s try to focus on that. Besides like you said just having a different opinion doesn’t even make someone wrong it’s just makes them different.
We need more of these people in the world
Listening to this I had a lightbulb moment... Bruno from the new Encanto movie is totally a perfect example of cancel culture! I have a disdain for cancel culture because it removes respecting others from the equation and usually never takes intent into consideration. It’s like the gossip circle gone crazy and affecting others livelihoods. Bruno went into hiding from it and so do many people, sometimes for emotional protection other times for their physical safety. It’s horrible to push people to that point. Instead we should have open dialogue on both sides to help people learn and grow past these things and get the accurate info out there more.
Loving this episode!! It is difficult to admit to my own faults, but this really has helped bring more awareness to my own black and white thinking and my automatic believing in the loudest opinions on the internet without question. Such an energy drainer as well. Thank you for bringing light to this!!
thiissss 🙌🏼thank you for sharing
I love the whole conversation. I been watching Fully Raw Kristin for years. Kristin and Cash you guys positive energy is so beautiful. I love you garden ❤
Yesss!! We are buying land in Oklahoma in the mountains and beginning our journey growing our own food!!! 💕💕💕💕
and have eggs too for collagen support
Amazing how one person's action destroys another person so quickly.
Exciting to see how people overcome the destruction.
Lets build each other up!
Loved this episode. Kristina is the one un UA-cam i have been following the longest. I just love her positivity. Thank you Ellen for bringing this to us and I am looking forward to see more of Cas as well.
I love this episode!! I’m so glad you had Kristina and Cash on. Kristina is who brought me into this world. And she brought me to you! Way back when you were Mango Island Mama. I was working at a coffee shop where I was alone most of the time and I would put on your videos and dream of better days. I’m still working on manifesting my dreams, I got very off track and stopped caring about things like veganism, kindness, humanity, etc. I became addicted to drugs and the last thing I was worried about was being plant based. Now that I’m sober and getting my life back, hearing you and Kristina converse reminds me of who I was and who I wanted to be. I can’t wait to hear more from you Ellen. And I’m definitely rekindling my love for Kristina now 💕💕💕 The world is a better place with you in it.
Wow! What an incredible man Cash is with so much emotional intelligence, kindness and love. Having 'followed' Kristina in the online space for at least 7 or 8 years, I'm so, so delighted that she has found such a beautiful, transformational relationship. Thank you Ellen for creating such a beautiful podcast video. xx
This was an amazing pod cast! What a wonderful couple. Cash is an incredible communicator! Wow! Well done Ellen, that was a good time. 😍
Loooove this conversation!! Well done Ellen! Excited to be listening to all your upcoming podcasts :) ;)
Thanks Christina & Cash for sharing about your life 😘😘😘😘
I have always admired Kristina and have learned so much from her lifestyle. She is a strong a businesswoman who exudes confidence and passion for her lifestyle. This has been my favorite of your new podcasts. I have lived a Vegan lifestyle for 20+nyears and I still learn so much from you both. Thank You!
amazing conversation that needs to continue with everyone. Thanks for talking about this. Much Love to you all.
Hi Ellen, would you ever talk about why you stopped being a raw vegan and started incorporating cooked food into your diet? I watched you before you transitioned to cooked food so I was always curious and would like to know, love your vids / podcast! Thanks!
I think it was andrew having 1 cooked meal a week and Elvis started joining. Also she started craving cooked foods in pregnancy more I believe. She has a video from a long time ago she breifly mentioned it on her main channel
@@MichaelaScull Oh really, thanks for the information. I must have missed it!
Great podcast. New subscriber. Love Kristina! Appalled by all the injustice she has suffered impressed by the elevated way she deals w loss. Cash seems like a sincere person. Thanks Ellen👍🏻
What an amazing podcast! Thank you Ellen, Kristina and Cash for this great episode! Call out culture defined at its best. 👏👏👏 Keep it up Ellen! ❤
Cash really does have wings. This was a great conversation and Kristina, you are so humble and lovely.
It is such a joy to listen 3 healed souls who are so down to Earth and mature in their thinking. Thank you!
Really great conversation. You three are empathic thinkers. I want to state something that I think is very important that you may consider changing your mind about - blocking. Blocking someone is actually showing you don't agree with free speech. It's easy online to just scroll by but we must never stymie someone's free speech even if they are jerks. We can scroll by or "have a go at them". I think it's a good thing that we can say anything we want online as opposed to "real life" because we can truly express ourselves online without fear of being punched in the face or something. Especially for women, online is a huge asset for speaking our mind. We must not throw this amazing agency away and hold it dear. We need to learn how to keep our emotions composed and remember - it is just words on a screen, often by people you don't know or will meet. If we could just take other's opinions as their own and not take them onboard ourselves, it will contribute to our growth immensely. Thanks for this convo.
Love seeing you all evolve, I can remember the first videos from Kristina and Ellen. Now seeing you both where you are now is so inspiring.
What a great podcast! Well done! Love you all! Thank you for speaking up!
Unity, yes Kristina! Bless your beautiful heart ❤️ ✨
I loved this and getting to hear Kristinas experience being a raw vegan leader in the media, yet being demonized by other people in the movement. Her videos have always been kind and warm, and full of positive ideas like recipes and other helpful information. Many channels survive on videos that focus on tearing non vegan people or other vegans down. That doesn’t help anybody. The fact that Kristina has always focused on sharing positive messages and has never used the name of another person, even if they used hers, in a negative light, really shows her character and the level of professionalism of her business. I’m sorry that she has dealt with so much negativity when she is spreading such a positive message. Thanks for this episode 💕🌼🌸
Love this conversation and got to learn Kristina in a more intimate way and truly see how genuine she is! Love love love this video!!😍
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I have been watching Kristina off and on for years. I have always felt a little sad for her. I hope her and Cash stay together and enjoy years of happiness and success together.
Wow thank you so much for this very grown up, civilised, human conversation !! 👏🏽 👏🏽 Was not sure about this podcast topic but since i love and trust ellen’s content i thought i’d give it a listen, and i am so glad i did ! Did not know about cash and kristina but so thankful i got to discover them here. This conversation was so balanced, articulated and kind while talking about such a deep topics, and definitely gave me food for thoughts and how to reconsider certain things. Absolutely loved it thanks to you all for such quality content with quality people 🙏 🍃
Love that these are so long! Definitely keep up the hour long limit 😍
I’m glad Cash got out this Situation because it was draining him and was about to take him out.
omg absolutely love this so much. have been into Kristina's content & vibe for soo long
LOVE LOVE LOVE UNITY WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL…healing in the process🥰🌷☀️🌴💃🏽🦜🫐🥬🥥🥭🤩💫✌🏽🌈👌🏽💖🤙🏽🏖🙏🏽thank you beautiful hearts & souls!!!!!!
I’m still wondering when Kristina will acknowledge when she said to my face, at the Woodstock Fruit Festival 2013, “it doesn’t matter” - when she’d not pitched up to the dance class she was scheduled to give - where 30 people were waiting for the class to start.
I left the class after a half hour of waiting and saw Kristina come out of one of the more expensive chalets.
I told her there are all these people waiting for word of class cancellation or for her to show up as scheduled.
To which she said to me “it doesn’t matter”, as she walked away.
I felt horrified and disgusted.
None of this is me having a hard day.
I was having a great time at the festival.
I was just so disgusted in her response because I care about people genuinely and my need for honor, integrity, authenticity wasn’t met when she did that.
I have plenty of things going on in my life - this is nothing to do with “not having something to do” or “being vindictive” or “envy or jealousy”.
This has to do with asking Kristina to be real and tell the truth - that she said that and didn’t care about those people waiting.
Nor me that has to hear that.
Ugh. The Festival just wasn’t the same and I don’t think I’ll return because of it.
To understand that action’s consequence is that I no longer believe her “good intentions” and “altruism”.
Not trying to “cancel” her.
Just hoping she can see her pattern and understand why some people don’t trust her.
Honestly, I watch her because I’m always looking for wholesome vegan content.
But, since that interaction with her, there’s a cringiness underlying now.
I’ve reached out to her a few times about it. She continues to ignore my requests. It’s difficult to believe her. There’s no hate from me. She continues, for the rest of her life’s patterns, to Avoid this. I did come to the source and tried to talk to her about it. I will continue to doubt her integrity until she addresses what happened.
I understand she doesn’t like that part of herself nor wants to face that part of her that “doesn’t care about people” in a way she wants to be seen to.
She wants a public apology from veg news for doing something that doesn’t meet her need for integrity.
I’d like NOT a public apology from her, on behalf of those 30 people at the Woodstock Fruit Festival, that didn’t meet our needs for integrity… I’d like public explanation and admittance that she truly doesn’t always care.
Kristina, how about you just start with this?
Win me over again by being brave and doing this. Not for me - for you.
Cos this pattern of yours is THE THING people can pick up on and why you dig your hole to self pity.
Ellen, Andrew, Cash, don’t “cancel” me for speaking up and making my request.
Kristina, a real friend tells you the truth.
I have done this here, again.
You might not “be in a place you can hear me out”. I’m not waiting around. Just saying - this is in the background of my experience of you wherever I notice you via your content.
And I’m not the only one.
Can you understand this?
Can you create unity here?
Can you shift your perspective and see where I’m coming from?
It’s not from any trauma, nor lashing out, that I ask for this simple thing - for your growth and contribution to the moment you said “it doesn’t matter” about those 30 people who were waiting, confused, disappointed and then I’m the one who has to continue to support a vegan sister who did that (said “it doesn’t matter” - which doesn’t meet my need for integrity), because I’m the one who was exposed to it. Well, thanks alot🤷🏽♀️.
So I’m the one who keeps asking:
Can you face this, acknowledge this, say that sometimes you just don’t really give a 💩 about people and that’s the truth. We can see through it and you’re trying to convince us we’re not seeing what we’re seeing. Come on. I ask you to use this opportunity to be real.
This is a first hand account of my experience with you in person, Kristina. Can you not react from emotion, and actually hear the problem?
Can you then face this issue in yourself and then let me see your growth towards integrity?
Can you overcome your fear of embarrassment and step up? Not see this as an attack but as your responsibility to face in a kind way?
We’ll see.
Honestly, who cares? Why are you pressed about something that happened so long ago? Who knows what was happening that day, but the fact that you are holding on to it says more about you than anything else. Why look for trouble, instead acknowledge we never know what other people are going through and move on?!?!
2013 and you are still holding on to that? I’d say that says more about you than her. Move on. Let it go. It will do you good.
@@janliz7967 @Mama2agn yes, integrity, transparency and honor is that important to me… Feeling at ease is that important to me… that I will continue to ask her to talk about it publicly.
It’s not “saying anything about anybody”.
It’s a simple request at best, for her to stop faking /feigning care of others in every video (mostly just adverts these days, for her product affiliates and, in future, whatever she produces on her land - just to make money)… and at the least, it’s a first hand account of my experience with her that I am sharing with you, so you all know what happened and what she didn’t do about it - she didn’t care about the people at all.
The truth is, to her, We “don’t matter”.
She didn’t even pop in to say “ah, sorry, not sorry - I was busy doing other things and didn’t feel like giving the class”. But then she complains about her reputation as fake.
It happened in 2013, but I watched this podcast last week. It’s still relevant and annoying if she continues to point the finger at others, without looking at herself and what she’s done.
Saying “it doesn’t matter” is not ok.
We held space for her instead of going to the lake or taking a different class, or sleeping in, or going for a run. It does matter. We do matter.
I care. Who knows what those 30 people that day were going through?
Show up for people you committed to show up for. If you can’t, or just don’t care, say so and let them go with dignity to them.
Thank you.
Wow 😳 Let it go... let it go... you have to let that shit goooooooo. Thank you and best of luck to you in your future and journey in learning to let shit goooooo
@@sbein305miaKristina, stop trolling me with your troll accounts. Lol. PS you just called yourself shit. Ugh
Beautiful conversation! Thank you for opening up on such important topics 💜🙏
I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast!! Thank you, Ellen!! Keep going with new interesting topics! :)
God bless these people and their families ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ knowing the wisdom of God in your life is the biggest blessing !
I loved this episode so much! I love being able to see you all in such a genuine authentic way!!!!!!
Beautiful Interview! Sometimes things happen but is our response to it that elevates us!
I have to say this is really eye-opening. I’m not a troll and I don’t usually comment on people‘s pages or anything for that matter, unless it’s positive. However there have been times in the past where I have jumped on the bandwagon, and made comments about the situation thinking it is true because other people might be saying it is. What I realize from this is, we really don’t know anything about anyone. And who gave anyone the right to be so self righteous that we think we have a right to comment about someone’s personal business because they made a video about something unrelated. I think people need to take a deep dark look at them selves and realize the root of trying to bring someone down, stems from self misery and feeling the need to bring everyone down to their level because they cannot elevate themselves. I hope everyone learns some thing from this, it really it’s something to think about.
I love that what you all said about Unity,compassion. What a great podcast. I"m sorry Kristina that you had to experience that.
This was such a good episode. Thank you guys for sharing🙏🏼💕
Fully gave up social media (except Pinterest and UA-cam) for my own mental health reasons.
i really like how cash said that we need those people in our lives that will call us out...i am def that friend...if you want to the truth im there to tell you are messing up...or give another perspective...many people however, just do not want to hear it...so they tend to stay away from truthful friends and loved ones...
Cash is so cool! Loved hearing him talk more and really love them together! I hope everything works out with the two of them💚🌱 Christina is amazing!
I loved this episode, Ellen. It really changed my perspective on certain things. Thank you!
Ironic, a few days later he abandons the woman and the lifestyle. He must have been miserable. They looked like an instagram couple but not like a genuinly happy couple.
I wish the nice comments start being louder than the hate. Also a positive change I think we can all do is stand up for the influencers when they are being attacked by the cancel culture
I'm sad that he left Hawaii and I hope him and Kristina can get back to each other.
I'm ok with it because that's what dating is. You tried, it didn't mesh, you go on to find other you mesh with better.
I used to watch her years ago when I was vegan! I am no longer vegan and don't believe it's healthy for me, BUT I still respect her and can't believe the hate she's gotten and what she's been through.
min 37 ish they were about to get into black lives matter all kinds of stuff and i do think it is so important and relevant to cancel culture and i feel like that whole conversation was kind of cancelled and put back on a tiny focus of one person and how they feel yes also valid but not nearly as expansive and also u could feel the re direction it was awkward and also sad ~ the trauma behind what cash is saying really was put aside and could have been so much more gently handled ~
I also thought it was very awkward when none of them really took a stance on it and Kristina just spoke for him instead
BLM is part of the problem. It’s a money-making scam with the added baggage of pushing Marxism (it’s openly admitted as such in their stated objectives) and pushing racial division. Proportionally, there are far more incidents of black on black violence than white on black in the US. Police are more likely to use lethal force against white citizens than black. But that doesn’t go along with BLM’s narrative, so the data is buried and people who point it out are marginalised as racists. It’s lunacy. And where are all the millions of dollars that BLM accumulated? Are they helping fund better education or local infrastructure in impoverished communities? Nope, it’s been used to grow the property portfolios of the organisation’s leaders. It’s a pyramid scheme.
@@slefievero5336 from recent info he betrayed Kristina so does he really deserve a word and a place in Kristina’s world . No one knew him before her , if it wasn’t for her he wouldn’t be even invited
Simply a beautiful and relevant conversation.
What a beautiful conversation! Thank you all! ❤️🙏
one of the best episodes! you are really helping me with your podcasts atm!
I would have liked to hear you discuss the current social climate a little more but this was still awesome.
Christina has always tried to help people, with her free vegetables and fruit recipes. love her, she is beautiful.
I’m LOVING this podcast Ellen ❤️ so inspiring. Keep going!
Thank you Kristina and Cash for sharing your story. I’ve seen the harassing post. It’s disappointing to see such negativity and hate. Stay strong Kristina!
I am glad you invited Kristina. As she said, she went through a lot but she is strong and a wonderful soul! She is a true inspiration!
I really enjoyed this podcast! People can be so hurtful just trying to get attention, and I’m so sorry those who try to help people are targeted! I follow you both and you’ve both helped me and my family! Please keep on keeping on and know you’ve got more supporters than nasty haters!
Cash and Andrew need their own podcast to raise awareness on self worth! Great men who were smart to love fabulous women!
Just wanted to say that I have followed Kristina’s journey for many years and am happy for her and how far she has come over the years, and hope she continues for many years ahead.
Ellen thank you for this episode and “I” wish you well.
You need to calm down by Taylor Swift is the perfect song for this video topic! Thank you for sharing your experience and being vulnerable kind❤️
I didn't renew my subscription to VegNews because in my opinion they advocate for animal welfare rather than actual veganism. And now I find out that they are trying to bad mouth people who are vegan and advocate for veganism. Well, that just solidifies my opinion! So who is actually behind their company. It doesn't sound like descent people who want to advocate for veganism. People need to start waking up. I would say that 99 percent of these so called organizations and magazines that say they are trying to help animals and promote veganism are actually NOT vegan and really are in it to destroy the vegan movement.