The Truth About The Du Bois-Washington Controversy

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  • @ByronJames7
    @ByronJames7 3 роки тому +42

    "up from Slavery" great autobiography from Booker t Washington

  • @JoshuaPellum
    @JoshuaPellum 11 місяців тому +8

    I have these two men along with my 7th removed grandpa (who escaped slavery in Alabama) photos as a daily reminder of what to do Thank you Thomas Sowell!

  • @DavidOhlerkingII
    @DavidOhlerkingII 3 роки тому +28

    I love tha Sowell.

  • @jayteegamble
    @jayteegamble Рік тому +15

    5:45 Washington's speech here reminds me of John Adams: "My sons must study navigation, commerce, and agriculture so that someday their children will have the right to study painting, poetry, and music"

  • @friendlyone2706
    @friendlyone2706 3 роки тому +36

    Tuskegee Institute's airmen helped win WW2 -- They did Booker T Washington proud.

    • @user-lj6gk4lv9s
      @user-lj6gk4lv9s 7 місяців тому +1

      I didn't make the connection until I read your post.

  • @robertabell9182
    @robertabell9182 3 роки тому +44

    Thank you 🙏 Dr. Sowell for enlightening us ones again. Bless you Sir in all you do in Christ Jesus Name Amen 🙏.

  • @jayecurry1369
    @jayecurry1369 3 роки тому +28

    It's one thing to have rights, but another thing to use them properly. That seems so self-evident, yet it seems that so many have not come to realize the truth of it.

    • @paulgrant7949
      @paulgrant7949 3 роки тому +7

      Your statement is very accurate for all people, no matter their race, creed or colour! We all need to take responsibility for our actions and the subsequent success or failures of those actions.

  • @BaltimoresBerzerker
    @BaltimoresBerzerker 3 роки тому +66

    In Baltimore City, I wasn't taught about Aristotle, only Plato. We never read much from Booker T Washington, but plenty of material on DuBois. This alone illustrates the intention of indoctrination in schools which are administered by politically monopolized Democrat cities. They emphasize a political tradition and political culture of denouncing the past and complete revolution in a leftist sense. Not permitting students to learn the opposite tradition of gradual change that's also present in western culture. One has to learn the other half of reality on your own time, and sadly not one student participated with me in this pursuit. This highlights the dim future our country has made for itself.

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 2 роки тому +4

      Really? That's fascinating. See I went to a very good high school that was not part of the normal public school system (we were a charter school and a very good one at that) and we were required to read both "Up From Slavery" and "The Souls of Black Folks" in American Literature as well as learn about both men's activities and philosophies in American History. We also had to read "Politics" by Aristotle and "The Republic" by Plato. In Economics we read "The Wealth of Nations" and "The Communist Manifesto" both and then had to debate their merits in class (this was what turned me from being a self described communist, as I had to read the Wealth of Nations and defend it and it blew my mind. I also was found by God and got right with him around the same time and that blew my mind as well. So all in all it was a very productive time).

    • @caljader3388
      @caljader3388 2 роки тому +2

      I appreciate the comments,,thanks.

    • @stp479
      @stp479 2 роки тому +3

      Groomed to be but a tool, and, eventually, cannon fodder. Glad you continued your education.

    • @robertortiz-wilson1588
      @robertortiz-wilson1588 Рік тому +1

      @@pittland44 that's a beautiful story! God bless! I would hope that one day we will be able to play our part to spread something of that experience to the majority of the country.

    • @pittland44
      @pittland44 Рік тому

      @@robertortiz-wilson1588 Amen and G-d willing.

  • @dblev2019
    @dblev2019 Рік тому +3

    Without a doubt the best comparison between these two men.

  • @mwalimuwade6910
    @mwalimuwade6910 8 місяців тому +5

    I agree with Booker T Washington

  • @rev.stephena.cakouros948
    @rev.stephena.cakouros948 3 роки тому +35

    Du Bois was an elitist sort of like Plato the fountainhead of Communism; who had little regard for the common man. Aristotle differed in respect of that and private property rights as well.

    • @S.J.L
      @S.J.L 3 роки тому +12

      Du Bois definitely seemed to have "the vision of the annointed." The whole concept of "the talented tenth" seems to permeate the left and much of our media, education, etc.
      I would be against that even if they were the best tenth but, worse, we have elevated many of the worst among us, across the American spectrum.

    • @NoahBodze
      @NoahBodze 2 роки тому +1

      He’s precisely who Popper meant as a bad guy in Open Society and it’s Enemies.

  • @tomchristian9932
    @tomchristian9932 3 роки тому +91

    Is there racism, yes, however if you allow anything in this day and age to stop you, that’s you fault… not the color of your skin!

    • @murdockhancock1660
      @murdockhancock1660 3 роки тому +3

      If you crush a mans pride and self confidence he'll turn to demagogue and tyrants to reassert them

    • @jimmymags6516
      @jimmymags6516 3 роки тому +10

      @@murdockhancock1660 A person can only crush your pride , if you let them .

    • @Eusebeia7
      @Eusebeia7 2 роки тому +4

      Proverbs 16:9 A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps. Psalms 119:133 Order my steps in thy word: and let not any iniquity have dominion over me. Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. Rom 8:6 For to be carnally (5 senses) minded is death (separation from God); but to be spiritually minded is life (Zoe, life together with God) and peace.

    • @xfx7627
      @xfx7627 Рік тому

      Man stfu the system in power is deliberately oppressing us we’re not stopping anything

    • @reek459
      @reek459 10 місяців тому

      This half way true. Now fortunately i know white people in power. But b4 i knew ppl. They shut me down tried to incarcerate me. Ruin my life b4 i was 10. My fingers prints been in the system since 2006 when i was 8 in 4th grade..... funny bc ive never done a crime.

  • @jimd8008
    @jimd8008 3 роки тому +5

    Always a pleasure thank you

  • @friendlyone2706
    @friendlyone2706 3 роки тому +24

    The Booker T Washington system is the most reliable.

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 2 роки тому +6

      Yup. The Japanese did it, the Chinese, the Jews, the Vietnamese, etc.

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 2 роки тому

      @@_VISION. Opportunity comes to the prepared. The unprepared will never recognize any opportunity --- and those who excuse or even encourage low standards, deny opportunity to those tricked into accepting low standards.
      I recently re-watched the Marva Collins Story, available free on UA-cam and Amazon. The movie and book were popular in the last century, but today would be cancelled since it featured a black teacher who demanded -- and received -- high standards from her inner city black students. Unfortunately, like the hero of Stand by Me, those who claim "understanding" means accepting inferior results seem to have overwhelmed the good she did.
      Watch and share the movie. It will help promote the good these two men attempted.
      I think The Marva Collins Story is Morgan Freeman's most important film.

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 2 роки тому +4

      @@friendlyone2706 I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.
      Imagine if us American blacks had we did what BTW envisioned.

    • @vernonrobinson1685
      @vernonrobinson1685 Рік тому

      @@_VISION.
      How did the other ethnic groups do it?

    • @Ma1q444
      @Ma1q444 7 місяців тому

      @@_VISION.?

  • @dj012001
    @dj012001 3 роки тому +7

    Interesting and informative video. I think I need to read more Primary sources.

    • @rdyplyr2141
      @rdyplyr2141 3 роки тому +3

      Have you read Inside Education by Dr. Sowell? I read this book in 1999 and was so sickened that I told my husband that if I ever got pregnant I was home schooling, never got pregnant but I have seen what is upon us now coming due to Dr. Sowell and all of his books. That man is my hero. I emailed him after reading that book because I was so impacted by it and he actually emailed back, which he apparently rarely did because his assistant usually checked his emails. If have forwarded that email to every email account I have had since 1999 to preserve it LOL.

  • @mwalimuwade6910
    @mwalimuwade6910 8 місяців тому +4

    Booker T Washington, Marcus Garvey and Elijah Muhammad were black America's best black leaders !!!!

  • @terencebelprez8158
    @terencebelprez8158 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this. When learning about both figures in high school, my manner in which they were discussed seemed to paint one as ineffective and the other as a visionary.

  • @barryon8706
    @barryon8706 3 роки тому +14

    I learned a lot. Starting with that, all this time, I was pronouncing Du Bois wrong. I am firmly on Washington's side here, but I am far more sympathetic toward Du Bois than I thought I'd be. He prized Black education and didn't want it dumbed down like slave masters did and Oregon now does. And, if he embraced communism, he maybe only have had the history of communes in the U.S. to go from, and those usually prospered for a generation then disbanded, and didn't turn into the authoritarian pits that Marxism lead to.

    • @Diasporaliving
      @Diasporaliving 2 роки тому

      I have not heard anybody pronounce the last name Du Bois correctly, including the narrator of this video...just as no one pronounces Des Moines properly either.
      French words, both names are.

    • @mikeb5372
      @mikeb5372 Рік тому

      There's an enormous difference between a comune and communism

    • @kenyattathompson6685
      @kenyattathompson6685 Рік тому +5

      Du Bois if y’all had ever met, would not have spoken to you!
      He was an elitist

  • @angusdog22
    @angusdog22 Рік тому +2

    You can either overcome adversity .. Or let it define you, consume you , crush you .

  • @user-lj6gk4lv9s
    @user-lj6gk4lv9s 7 місяців тому +2

    I have 3 friends with PhD's who couldn't change a tap washer, chemistry PhD's, 2 of them put diesel into a petrol mower after first noting that they had to be careful which jerrycan to get it from as one had diesel in it.
    One of them managed to get a bit of work driving forklifts.
    If only Booker T had educated them instead.

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger733 Рік тому +5

    Du Bois was a thoroughgoing socialist who became an outright communist by the 1930s, with love for Karl Marx. As such, he was a revolutionary who had nothing but contempt for America and agitated for violent overthrow of the “racist structure”.

    • @thisguy7976
      @thisguy7976 7 місяців тому

      It was a racist structure back then. Not saying I agree with all of his views

    • @shauncameron8390
      @shauncameron8390 4 місяці тому

      And thought Black people were too stupid for capitalism.

    • @elongatedmanforever1252
      @elongatedmanforever1252 3 місяці тому

      ​@@thisguy7976
      No not really it was certain individuals not the structure.

  • @dragunov815
    @dragunov815 2 роки тому +2

    That was interesting.

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 Рік тому

    Thank you for making this clear!

  • @istvanszabo3229
    @istvanszabo3229 3 роки тому +6

    This UA-cam channel desperately needs more exposure!

    • @stephenpowstinger733
      @stephenpowstinger733 Рік тому

      I’m afraid Sowell is considered an Uncle Tom by mainstream civil rights activists. He is quite an accomplished writer.

  • @letavoss5938
    @letavoss5938 3 роки тому +16

    I wish humans would finally wake up and understand what racism really means and that no single race has a monopoly

  • @botticelli728
    @botticelli728 3 роки тому +10

    One thing I think a lot of people today either ignore or don't know is that he was trying to save people's lives at a time when the lynching of black people was commonplace.

    • @jimmymags6516
      @jimmymags6516 3 роки тому +2

      How common where those lynchings ?

    • @botticelli728
      @botticelli728 3 роки тому +4

      @@jimmymags6516 It's a big, long history. Here's something from Wikipedia with some stats from 1900 to 1930: "White Southern Democrats enacted Jim Crow laws in order to enforce blacks' second-class status (see Nadir of American race relations). During a period of time which spanned the late 19th and early 20th centuries, lynchings reached a peak in the South. Georgia led the nation in lynchings from 1900 to 1931, with 302 incidents, according to The Tuskegee Institute. However, Florida led the nation in lynchings per capita from 1900 to 1930.[8][9][10] Lynchings peaked in many areas when it was time for landowners to settle accounts with sharecroppers.[11]"

    • @Channelthatprovidesplaylists
      @Channelthatprovidesplaylists 3 роки тому +8

      @@botticelli728 Ehhh you sure you can trust Wikipedia?

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 2 роки тому

      He who?

    • @botticelli728
      @botticelli728 2 роки тому +3

      @@_VISION. Booker T. Washington. There was a big dispute at the time as to whether he was being too much of an accommodationist to Southern whites.

  • @tomjeffries58
    @tomjeffries58 3 роки тому +7

    Where does Mr. Sowell get time to take photographs?

    • @sv3931
      @sv3931 3 роки тому +5

      Dr. Sowell

    • @tomjeffries58
      @tomjeffries58 3 роки тому

      @@sv3931 Dr. Jill

    • @jayecurry1369
      @jayecurry1369 3 роки тому +4

      If you truly love doing something, you make the time.

    • @tomjeffries58
      @tomjeffries58 3 роки тому +2

      It was a compliment of his vast lifetime work. Normally I wouldn't explain, but apparently with this group I need to make an exception.

    • @vplan
      @vplan 3 роки тому +5

      @@tomjeffries58 He is a true Dr! Dr, Sowell cured me from ignorance. :) It was very painful recovery…

  • @christophmahler
    @christophmahler 2 роки тому +6

    One should take a look into the use of the term _'race'_ within the Anglosphere of the 19th century and realize that half a century before the pseudo-science of Nazi eugenics, the term implied notations of _culture_ , foremost (e.g. Alfred Milner's 'Anglo-Saxon race patriotism' of the 1920s included the Celtic Scots and Irish as ethnic elements of the US).
    Otherwise all aspirations of self-improvement would have been futile... in comparison to actual evidence in accomplished individuals, to the contrary...
    It is in interpreting 'race' as a lasting constitution of physiology that it becomes polarizing to multi-ethnic societies in which ethnic purity is prioritized e.g. over inclusive Christian culture (whether of Hiberno-Scottish or Ethiopian historical origin).

  • @fbcpraise
    @fbcpraise 3 роки тому +4

    Wow. Really. What book is this from?

  • @knicksprop
    @knicksprop 3 місяці тому

    Two great black figures, though, like all figures within our history, had their flaws. Which is important. We should not pedestal great people, applaud their positive efforts while being mindful of their drawbacks.

  • @PaulanCollins7585
    @PaulanCollins7585 9 місяців тому

    Thank you sir, for all you'v done for the advancement of color people, bla k Lawyers Doctors and much more ..and all the students that advance ........

  • @davidbarnett5931
    @davidbarnett5931 3 роки тому +4

    👍

  • @jimwerther
    @jimwerther 3 роки тому +4

    Considering the fact that 100% of the content of this channel is taken from original sources without paying a dime, is it too much to ask the poster to let us know which book this comes from?

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 2 роки тому +3

      It came directly from one of his books. I pretty sure it came from the first listed in the description, but it could also have been included in any of the others. I've read most of his books years ago. they are very well referenced, every fact and figure look up able, and each is an easy, chatty read.
      If you want to feel sorry for yourself and whine "Why bother?", do not read Sowell's books any more than you should listen to Booker T. Washington.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther 2 роки тому +2

      @@friendlyone2706
      Seems you misunderstood my comment, as your response is rather off topic.

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 2 роки тому +2

      @@jimwerther Thomas Sowell IS the original source -- unless you are talking about the sources for his books, and that has already been handled. But you are right, they should state which book.

    • @jimwerther
      @jimwerther 2 роки тому +2

      @@friendlyone2706
      Indeed. Thank you.

  • @_VISION.
    @_VISION. 2 роки тому +1

    What book is this one specifically? Crazy that I have to even ask this.

  • @bkasoul9643
    @bkasoul9643 28 днів тому

    What is the source of this commentary?

  • @Mr.Witness
    @Mr.Witness 2 роки тому +2

    What book was this from

  • @metatron4890
    @metatron4890 2 роки тому +2

    What book is this from?

  • @justinnamuco9096
    @justinnamuco9096 2 роки тому

    Dew-bwah

  • @josedanielherrera7115
    @josedanielherrera7115 2 роки тому +1

    There's nothing more important then growing sweet potatoes!

    • @heysimmone
      @heysimmone Рік тому +1

      That's what I was thinking. "More important duties???"

  • @michaelreynolds8204
    @michaelreynolds8204 Рік тому +3

    WEB, Du Bois is the most overrated person in black history. He lived in the north. He was amongst white people all the time and never in danger. Even when he was in the Atlanta university, he stuck to the University and Atlanta was the most safe place for a black person he was not well known Booker T. Washington on the other hand spoke to 250,000 to 1,000,000 people in his lifetime in person, he was known he was the most popular black person in the world, and I mean known he was the most known black person in the world except for when Jack Johnson became a heavyweight champion but anyways, Booker T. Washington lived in the south And raised school in the south and taught people about businesses and WEB, Du Bois said that he was a compromiser even though WB, DuBois and Booker T. Washington agreed on 90% of issues. In fact WEB, Du Bois praised the speech which WEB, Du Bois, labeled the Atlanta compromise how could he be such a smart person and a graduate from Yale and Harvard And praise the Atlanta compromise of course he didn’t mention this in souls of black folk anyways WEB Du Bois, very good historian so overrated, the most underrated, Ida B Wells, Timothy Thomas fortunes the African-American league, the African-American council and all of the slaves who became leaders Booker T. Washington, being the last slave leaders. Those were the real people who had to go through danger Martin Luther King went through great danger what danger what protest the WEB, Du Bois do he wrote the crisis, but somehow WEB Du Bois got kicked out of the NAACP by Walter White. I see nothing in his work that really makes him stand out. The brother was never in danger. anyways, I’d be Wells, Timothy Thomas fortunes African-American leave the Afro American council by the way, WB DuBois didn’t even really found the NAACP that was done by white people WB DuBois and 60 others were brought along afterwards and WEB Du Bois made sure that I had a B Wells was written out of the NAACP. His magazine never mentioned Ida B Wells anti-lynching crusade, and he took credit for many things that the Afro, American council, Timothy, Thomas, Fortune, and Ida B Wells did this was a criticism that was made by one of the lieutenants of Marcus Garvey. His last name was Farris who was with WEB Du Bois in the Niagara movement and he said that WEB Du Bois, just copied Ida B Wells, Timothy, Thomas Fortune And Marcus Garvey. What is his real biggest accomplishment really not the African flag not African fro American day, not Black History Month. What did he really accomplish? No big marches Booker T. Washington has a school. Martin Luther King went to Booker T. Washington school Rosa Parks, Winchester Skegee or she grew up in Tuskegee. There’s so few actual accomplishments of WEB Du Bois he was a talker. he was a great writer, but how come we don’t talk about these people who are actually in danger like the leader, the person who made the Chicago defender. He was in danger, and he built his paper from the ground up, employing lots of Black people, WB DuBois employed almost no one, except for the money that he got from the white people who ran the NAACP anyways, I’m just giving you food thought think of all the slaves think of all these other people who are obscured and WEB, Du Bois, main claim to fame is putting down Booker T. Washington and of course WEB Du Bois distorts every single Point inside of his book is distorted and ridiculous, because Booker T. Washington he supported higher education. Of course he supported rights he fought for civil rights behind the scenes. He save the black man from lynching behind the scenes, saying that he turned him away from the college, and wouldn’t let him in Booker T. Washington had to lie and obscure some of the things that he did Thomas diction Thomas Dickson the man who made the Klansman and birth of a nation he was 1 million cellar with his racist pieces of crap anyways, he could see right through Booker T. Washington and he said that Booker T. Washington is training Black people to be competitors with white people he’s training, Black people to have a nation within the nation and to be our competitors. He said the competition is war, and this is very terrible. If it was to be replicated, it would be the worst thing for white America, Booker T. Washington‘s enemies who threatened him were the biggest racist and then you have this little guy who is supposed to be on black team WEB, Du Bois sniffing at him from the other side Booker T. Washington couldn’t even defend himself because to do so would be saying that yes I am pro protest and I’m not Mr. nice guy so you got one guy able to hit you constantly and Booker T. Washington Hass to have his hand behind his back but of course Booker T. Washington had a day job which is raising a school and sending 1000 kids out of poverty and fighting for civil rights behind the back. He actually was doing concrete stuff anyways if you think about it think about how overrated WEB Du Bois is think about it my brother bye

    • @sterlingferguson1704
      @sterlingferguson1704 Місяць тому

      You should do research before writing, Du Bois went to Fisk University and not Yale University. Booker T Washington last wife was a big fan of Du Bois and spoke out against Jim Crow and supported the Civil Righs movement. Du Bois said that the school that Booker T Washington founded would not exist without the teachers from the black Liberal Art going there to teach. Du Bois said that Booker T Washington was advocating a caste system for blacks to live in with no rights. Du Bois was the class act and I feel sorry for you, for not reading his work,

  • @merlinwizard1000
    @merlinwizard1000 2 роки тому

    61st

  • @boomerzman6148
    @boomerzman6148 Рік тому +1

    Another interesting questionable analysis from Tom Servant! Each chose a path! Each had shortcomings! Black-White? Where does these labels originate? Which is better!

  • @ricardocantoral7672
    @ricardocantoral7672 Рік тому +2

    Du Bois only wanted to be addressed as "Dr. Du bois". He was an elitist.

  • @JanethMancilla-y6j
    @JanethMancilla-y6j 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank god im not black that would be ebmbersing😂

  • @EM-tx3ly
    @EM-tx3ly 3 роки тому +6

    Both got visible White ancestry
    Could be related

    • @chitownmo
      @chitownmo 3 роки тому +2

      Washington's father was a slave master. His origin is sad but a symbol of overcoming the conditions of the society he grew up in.

    • @yrretgnortsmra8955
      @yrretgnortsmra8955 Рік тому

      Oh really no shit what is your point?

    • @vernonrobinson1685
      @vernonrobinson1685 Рік тому +2

      Most Black Americans have "visible" white ancestry.
      So.......