|TZP Ep99| A Christian Prophet and an atheist discuss spirituality and the supernatural.

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  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +43

    Kalenga is our well informed school dropout.

    • @dominicpotoka2969
      @dominicpotoka2969 10 місяців тому +1

      yo the boy Is finally getting some credit for being a drop out.... 🤣

  • @bevenmushibwe4055
    @bevenmushibwe4055 Рік тому +22

    The prophet has a few lessons to learn too, there is just somethng missing in him. He doesnt strike me as well vested in the word and spirit. He may have the gift but that doesnt mean is in the right standing, gifts can be exhibited by anyone but testing him against other parameter there is just something missing in him.

    • @khalidoudiallo5568
      @khalidoudiallo5568 Рік тому

      You are right! He seems not to fully strike me as well..

    • @alineted108
      @alineted108 Рік тому +2

      His not even a real believer his just hungry for money 😊

    • @muthibochizuma1879
      @muthibochizuma1879 8 місяців тому

      There is something not making sense about him

  • @gettoknowzambiawithkay31
    @gettoknowzambiawithkay31 Рік тому +21

    Elson did a very good job to bring the lady on the podcast..... I don't think she's entirely atheist, i think she just has questions which she hasn't been able to find answers to and most importantly needs an encounter with God.

  • @juliusngongola1704
    @juliusngongola1704 Рік тому +22

    Let’s do another one but with more knowledgeable guests please.
    Enjoyed the whole episode still

  • @nataliekangwa7221
    @nataliekangwa7221 Рік тому +21

    I wish you invited knowledgeable people it would have been an interest conversation

  • @Munyati1
    @Munyati1 Рік тому +101

    There's a huge difference between an atheist and an angry christian.😂😂

    • @jacoblongwe9892
      @jacoblongwe9892 Рік тому +7

      I feel the line is blurry 😅... In fact most angry christians have the illusion that they are atheists

    • @chiyabachiwala8842
      @chiyabachiwala8842 Рік тому

      Don't speak like you know her. I've known of her for over a decade. She's as atheist as atheist can get

    • @Thetechfather
      @Thetechfather Рік тому

      Lol

    • @hildamwape850
      @hildamwape850 Рік тому +3

      and she is an angry christian😢

    • @enosbanda1051
      @enosbanda1051 Рік тому

      😅

  • @louischanda6884
    @louischanda6884 3 місяці тому

    God uses your faculties!!! ❤❤❤

  • @CollinsMwape-ch5lp
    @CollinsMwape-ch5lp Рік тому +13

    With all due respect, please we need a very serious atheist and real bible scholar. These ones are not equal to task

  • @studiocreative9248
    @studiocreative9248 Рік тому +10

    I love Sovi"s calmness

  • @kennedymchomba6204
    @kennedymchomba6204 Рік тому +22

    I think this girl became an atheist out of peer pressure. She went to school and discovered most scientists were atheist and decided to join in order to fit in. You can clearly see that she doesn't know what's she's doing. May God give her a chance he gave us to see his love and acknowledge his existence in Jesus Christ's mighty name.

    • @Steve-390
      @Steve-390 3 місяці тому

      Ndimwe ba kale muntu uv have never spoken to, mu na full summary ya muntu 😂😂

  • @chipulumwansa2540
    @chipulumwansa2540 Рік тому +2

    I honestly have so many questions but I would love to see more insightful discussions about this topic. I’ve got plenty of questions for the prophet about his faith however let’s leave it here. Thank you Elson and K-plus for this wonderful podcast 😀🫶🏾🫶🏾

  • @kondwanichiwenda2229
    @kondwanichiwenda2229 Рік тому +3

    Uncle Elson is mastering the art.
    You are doing great bro

  • @kwangumwale7531
    @kwangumwale7531 Рік тому +6

    I met him once, he prayed for me 😊

  • @sithembinkhosiAtanase
    @sithembinkhosiAtanase Рік тому +8

    I was once like the lady in the video…..all I used to do is contradict without willing to listen and learn about Christianity.
    Thanks for the prophet👍

  • @zuzelarian
    @zuzelarian Рік тому +7

    Its how Elson and K-Plus are indirectly roasting the Prophet😂😂

  • @cypriansankata3201
    @cypriansankata3201 11 місяців тому

    Mr Elson you had a privilege that thousands of people doesn't have and looking for. meeting and talking to my father Prophet Emmanuel Makandiwa ehhh God loves you zoona

  • @WilliamMMumba
    @WilliamMMumba Рік тому

    One of my favourite prohpets,so much love and respect for you IBS

  • @johnmukuwa217
    @johnmukuwa217 Рік тому +67

    You should invite a more informed athiest

    • @jacoblongwe9892
      @jacoblongwe9892 Рік тому +11

      And a well educated prophet. Theologically and otherwise

    • @Thatzulugirl05
      @Thatzulugirl05 Рік тому

      @@jacoblongwe9892I haven’t seen the rest of this but just from the five mins he kinda won without adding his “prophetness” 😂 but kaya what the rest of the podcast will bring let me watch 😅

    • @lyricsarepower6904
      @lyricsarepower6904 Рік тому +7

      No, actually, this woman stood her ground ,
      She articulated her thoughts very well. Way better than most atheists she is well informed.

    • @Thatzulugirl05
      @Thatzulugirl05 Рік тому +8

      @@lyricsarepower6904 I mean that’s what you saw , can’t take that away . 😂I think both did a horrible job .. elson isn’t my fav, but he seemed to have good questions for them that they didn’t really give straight answers to . both guests off this podcast might talk about being strong on their beliefs, but when Confronted about it they really didn’t represent their views well . 🤷🏾‍♀️ she threw around words she thought were “intelligent “ 😂 but awe me I want them to redo this topic with a different group 😂

    • @lyricsarepower6904
      @lyricsarepower6904 Рік тому

      I agree they both could have done a better job representing their views.
      But they did well , there are atheists and Christian apologists that are way worse.

  • @hatskings
    @hatskings Рік тому +4

    this lady not a real atheist, but I love the prophet's confidence and the calmness

  • @jamesrichphiri3987
    @jamesrichphiri3987 Рік тому +2

    The accurate interpretation of those passages means if you reject Jesus and the work of salvation..

  • @cedricmusangu4370
    @cedricmusangu4370 Рік тому +4

    No one will admit that Tasiyana had valid questions, heads in the sands humble servants!

    • @kelenaduweduwe813
      @kelenaduweduwe813 Рік тому

      ...and it's good to ask. It's great to get clarification. I am a believer but would ask 80% of her questions because I also get confused at times.

  • @Miltonsankiss
    @Miltonsankiss Рік тому +1

    the lady raised very good points,she had good questions too and the prophet barely answered any.........we need the lady back on the podcast,really want hear her side.

  • @hillzfix6102
    @hillzfix6102 Рік тому +2

    The episode was great teaching.. We wanna more!!! Like this. 🎉

  • @chishamwashingwele7019
    @chishamwashingwele7019 Рік тому

    Prophet sovi I salute your Grace sir❤ one thing about people called by God are always humble, knowledgeable and guided by the holy spirit

  • @MosesPaul-xo1dc
    @MosesPaul-xo1dc Рік тому +4

    Wow Prophet is full of knowledge and wisdom of God .... I enjoyed the broadcast.

  • @noahmulongotijr7935
    @noahmulongotijr7935 Рік тому +5

    The problem with prophets today, is they base their understanding of God on their so called "visions" and not the bible, that's why the prophet couldn't quote a single verse from the bible. One doesn't need to defend God, because that's like defending a Lion, just unlock the cage (the bible), because every question that lady asked, would have been answered if the prophet knew the bible. I mean John 3:16 is a direct quote from Jesus, Jesus literally said those words, he was responding to a question that Nicodemus asked him, John 3:9-10..

  • @LinaEsther-z7k
    @LinaEsther-z7k Рік тому +4

    I am amazed by the prophet's calmness!

    • @graciouskabungo2934
      @graciouskabungo2934 6 місяців тому

      I'm equally amazed by his lack of bible scripture quotation

  • @mwanzamambo887
    @mwanzamambo887 Рік тому +14

    Elson and K-Plus seemed to be more informed than the guests in this discussion.
    Did anyone catch what was happening when Tasiyana stood up? It got a bit chaotic there for a moment!

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +11

    This one is an angry christian not an atheist💪🏽

  • @nsamachangala4463
    @nsamachangala4463 Рік тому

    This is uncle Elsons best episode .... Keep up the good work elson ... Today kalenga was more of a listener

  • @larrytvchannel3954
    @larrytvchannel3954 Рік тому +2

    Wow this is amazing first time finishing the podcast to the last thank you k and Elton you guys are amazing

  • @Mwelwajr
    @Mwelwajr Рік тому +2

    Great man of God Prophet Isaiah Sovi

  • @ellingtonkyabala75
    @ellingtonkyabala75 Рік тому +6

    I believe that she’s still catholic and I didn’t hear her making any concrete arguments against the existence of God. She’s agreed mostly with what Prophet Sovi was saying. I could tell how the host’s diverted the attention to the prophet because he’s well informed. The prayer did Give. The name JESUS will always be lifted above all

  • @graciouskabungo2934
    @graciouskabungo2934 6 місяців тому

    The prophet spoke of being baptized but not of believing in Christ. I do trust his testimony of salvation should have been the first to be spoken of. I do hope he is saved,
    I even failed yo finish this podcast because i felt misrepresented as a believer.

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +3

    Prophet Makandiwa is something else💪🏽

  • @kabwe1005
    @kabwe1005 Рік тому +4

    This conversation had no direction ... The interviewers had more knowledge than the interviewees.

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +4

    Flamboyance has taken away the simplicity of the Gospel

  • @kathleenmoonga9926
    @kathleenmoonga9926 Рік тому +4

    If we are uncertain of what God looks like, we can not claim our physical appearance is like that of God's. If you read the original scriptures and translate them as they truly mean, you may find that the whole notion of Christianity has been manipulated over time to suite the authority that benefits from it in that moment, eg the Roman empire hence "Roman catholic". It boils down to our spirit, soul, subconscious, whatever you may call it. We have no idea what our soul looks like and that's the part of us that is "like God". our physical being evolves to best accommodate our subconscious. If we are like God, we must be God, that's why manifestation, meditation, prayer, chanting etc are a strong link between the world we know (physical) and the one we don't (spuritual/scientific) . It boils down to terminology and what you call what.
    The principle is the same in my opinion. You get what you give, positive energy attracts posive vibrations, good deeds attracts blessing aka the law of attraction through, prayer, meditation, manifestation.

    • @lovewellmwiinga-mystic
      @lovewellmwiinga-mystic Рік тому

      I don't think I fully agree with this. We were made in God's image and likeness, that is to imply we are like him physically and in reasoning. Not exactly like him though. There is a verse in revelation, that describes what John saw in a vision, the description of Christ given includes hair, a head, a body, legs and feet. And the complexion too...
      Exactly as we are physically, having all the parts mentioned 🙏

    • @kathleenmoonga9926
      @kathleenmoonga9926 Рік тому +1

      @@lovewellmwiinga-mystic I think it boils down to the level of understanding of each individual. Spiritually is a personal journey that is easier with other people who believe in the same things we do (congregation). The mistake we make as human beings, because thats the only form of existence we know ourselves to be, is to make the religious teachings attached to spirituality more important. When we separate the two, it all becomes clear, and when you read whatever scriptures or literature that strengthen your belief from a spiritual point of view, you start to understand some of things alot different and start to embrace the true powers you actually bear within.

    • @lovewellmwiinga-mystic
      @lovewellmwiinga-mystic Рік тому +1

      @@kathleenmoonga9926 that's a pretty interesting perspective. There's never a 'one shoe fits all' truth to all this religion stuff.

  • @BrightMulengaJR
    @BrightMulengaJR Рік тому +2

    Expected more from this episode

  • @davieslukonde2596
    @davieslukonde2596 Рік тому

    This conversation reminds me of the book Conversation with God. People should read it.

  • @tor6328
    @tor6328 Рік тому +1

    The lebron james vision😂 that flew over everyone's head lol he meant to say king james version aah elson😂😂😂

  • @jimmynkhata69
    @jimmynkhata69 Рік тому +1

    The way the lady is looking at Sovi, with that ka eye admiring look.

  • @chilubamulenga6252
    @chilubamulenga6252 Рік тому

    Elson!!! "she's used to shaking big black things"...kKKKKK lmao

  • @ronaldchisenga4
    @ronaldchisenga4 Рік тому +1

    Speculation can’t exhaust this topic it needs well informed people

  • @kepsonsakala5610
    @kepsonsakala5610 Рік тому

    really enjoyed this episode

  • @chikumbichambwe6440
    @chikumbichambwe6440 Рік тому +1

    It would have been nice to have them discuss proper science and proper theology. I was expecting discussions about facts, theories, experiments, biology, physics, chemistry, miracles, cosmology, etc 1/10

  • @jacksonmwanaumo9403
    @jacksonmwanaumo9403 Рік тому +6

    I want a memory as accurate as Kalenga's

  • @bcs-beautifulchocolateskin5410

    This is such an interesting topic can we redo it with people who can backup their beliefs confidently.

  • @keithmaliko4511
    @keithmaliko4511 Рік тому +2

    He predicted that South Africa was going to win and they won, amazing Prophet Elson 😅 double inserts sarcasm...

  • @salifyanjisichilindi5940
    @salifyanjisichilindi5940 Рік тому

    Mwe Lesa, how I wish I was part of this conversation.

  • @ngendainengu5758
    @ngendainengu5758 Рік тому +1

    All in all this was great

  • @BadgerLogistics
    @BadgerLogistics Рік тому

    The way the guys looked at eachother when she changed seats. Lady has a backside to drool over. 😂

  • @mostache1104
    @mostache1104 Рік тому +3

    Kindly asking for the lady's email address. I would want to discuss her views. Am a science enthusiast as well as a firm believer in the existence of a Creator. Do I have proof? Yes I do. Do I have a list of scientists that were once aitheists but are now believers? Yes I do. Faith is usually confused for gullibility but at Hebrews 11:1 the Bibles definition of faith there shows that faith requires evidence and so I agree with the phrase he who alleges must prove. From that background I would like to discuss this topic with the lady all I ask is just an email address

  • @darrelsilavwe4479
    @darrelsilavwe4479 Рік тому

    Simple answer to identifying false prophets is you will know them by their fruits. Which fruits?? The fruitage of the spirit

  • @princeosward2469
    @princeosward2469 Рік тому

    Prophet Isaiah has alot to learn,he is still young in the spirit,cause of ven the way he answers questions its not satisfactory......Trust me its possible to tell between false and true prophet.

  • @fixtechcomputingzambialtd.9251

    I don’t know whether I’m the only one who, whenever either of them was bringing up a point or trying to justify something, there’s a certain convincing type of a way I was expecting them to assert something. Unfortunately, they were all lacking that confidence and enough knowledge about the different grounds they both claim to stand on.
    I watched the podcast half way and failed to finish it; all because I couldn’t be convinced enough that these two souls you had invited truly know what they’re standing for.

  • @abigailsikwabi8662
    @abigailsikwabi8662 Рік тому

    This was an interesting episode

  • @walusungukawangu5199
    @walusungukawangu5199 Рік тому

    Interesting episode.

  • @apostlejoseph8773
    @apostlejoseph8773 Рік тому

    Children don't require faith but the ones taking of faith need to have faith

  • @deemackenzie4827
    @deemackenzie4827 Рік тому

    out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things.
    Matthew 12:34-40
    This Tasila lady awe ine ikona I just can't relate with someone who doesn't believe God's existence brah

  • @573vo6
    @573vo6 Рік тому

    Good EP as always guys enjoyed the 1hr 55, but that @ss tho,,, yoyoyooo

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +1

    That’s how deep Prophet Emmanuel Makandiwa

  • @jeffylmusonda2177
    @jeffylmusonda2177 Рік тому

    Who designed the designer?

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +3

    We have made Church a transaction more than it is a relationship with God

  • @thandiwechunga5
    @thandiwechunga5 Рік тому

    I remember you and sunday school maranatha.you have a calling bro..we saw it when you were young

  • @chingadmulala9297
    @chingadmulala9297 Рік тому +1

    Am a Christian, had an epiphany once...with all this evolution talk u guys had. With global warming and the ice melting n all...the Antarctica being the largest, what if the owners of earth during inception (frozen aka hibernating) are sick and tired of our shit and are waking up😅 to relaim this land we call Earth😅😊

  • @cressychabala1614
    @cressychabala1614 Рік тому +1

    This is why you cant mix the spiritual world and the physical world. The two have different understanding and the two stand true in their form.

  • @philipmemphis3483
    @philipmemphis3483 Рік тому

    Kplus i love youre T-shirt.
    Zambia ku chalo

  • @missqt48
    @missqt48 Рік тому +2

    She mentioned cancer on a child.
    This is how I see it!
    You reap what you sow!
    I have experienced my consequences, from actions performed before I was born. Hence I accent my suffering and hence it’s only me to make it right with the Lord and those around me. So my children and children’s children do not reap bad fruit but yield healthy fruits.

    • @missqt48
      @missqt48 Рік тому

      accept*

    • @jacoblongwe9892
      @jacoblongwe9892 Рік тому +1

      You don't always reap when you sow, and sometimes when you reap it's not what you had sown 😅

    • @simendanamakando768
      @simendanamakando768 Рік тому +1

      The devil does not fight his own!

  • @brucembandujr.6016
    @brucembandujr.6016 Рік тому

    This episode is not on spotify

  • @mastaluZambia
    @mastaluZambia Рік тому

    Isaiah 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”
    1. The law = The 10 Commandments as the ultimate law
    2.Testimony of Jesus that He came, He lived, He died and resurrected to offer us a chance at salvation.

  • @stardust3142
    @stardust3142 Рік тому +1

    Neil Degrasse Tyson definitely it is not a creationists. He supports the scientific community on the theory of evolution. Did you guys even follow him?

  • @chandachandamiyoba9051
    @chandachandamiyoba9051 Рік тому +1

    1hr06 min to 1hr07min 😂😂😂😂 Kplus and Elson 👏🏻 😂😂💀

  • @mekilukwesa4159
    @mekilukwesa4159 Рік тому

    Just the beginning of this episode is already 🔥

  • @MkhuzoMwanza
    @MkhuzoMwanza 3 місяці тому

    Part 2 please.

  • @ObedLukando
    @ObedLukando 11 місяців тому

    She will know her maker one day

  • @CephasDaka
    @CephasDaka Рік тому

    Please invite Reverend Walter Mwambazi

  • @vickyitenyo.
    @vickyitenyo. Рік тому

    I'm a LOYAL viewer of this podcast from Kenya! You guys do such an amazing job! However Tesiyana is an ANGRY christian with basic scientific knowledge NOT an aethist.

  • @marvinchamata958
    @marvinchamata958 Рік тому

    I love Intelligent conversations.

  • @mrgreatzambia
    @mrgreatzambia Рік тому +2

    Is it we did it or God did through me?

  • @darrelsilavwe4479
    @darrelsilavwe4479 Рік тому

    I wish I was in this room. 😅 so many unanswered questions

  • @ronaldchisenga4
    @ronaldchisenga4 Рік тому

    Beautiful conversation but the guests were not prepared for the conversation

  • @elppiofficial
    @elppiofficial Рік тому

    whats the name of the prophet nd his social handles?

  • @mathewskhon6091
    @mathewskhon6091 Рік тому

    Elson did us justice tasiyana standing holy moly

  • @zulumathews3355
    @zulumathews3355 Рік тому +1

    @k-minus kindly bring on board maphonga joshua ,Walter mwambazi not kids.

  • @chipotips
    @chipotips 4 місяці тому

    The time uncle Elson switched Seats with the "Cherry" Kalenga and uncle Elson Smiled bonse!

  • @traviehuncho7786
    @traviehuncho7786 Рік тому

    Why isn’t this on Apple podcast?

  • @apostleeliasmwanza2919
    @apostleeliasmwanza2919 Рік тому +6

    Elson has a Prophetic Calling😂

  • @hudsonmanda3692
    @hudsonmanda3692 Рік тому

    Sovi is calm and full of knowledge..he knows what he was talking about unlike the lady who had no enough information as an Atheist like she claim to be

  • @allanchisha656
    @allanchisha656 Рік тому +1

    Elson grows with each episode, more refined

  • @Mulenga888
    @Mulenga888 Рік тому

    Why are we not yet at 100 k guys let’s share the podcast let’s hit the 100k

  • @phillipngongo7398
    @phillipngongo7398 Рік тому

    We don’t know and it’s frustrating to link things to a God when faced with knowledge gap or uncertainty.

  • @burntcoffee2447
    @burntcoffee2447 Рік тому

    @Thatzedpodcast please try reach out to Candace owens

  • @portipherpaul3896
    @portipherpaul3896 Рік тому +2

    Lol after she stood Kalenga and Elson looked at each other funny 😆

    • @mwanzamambo887
      @mwanzamambo887 Рік тому

      Yeah, what was happening kashi 🤣🤣🤣

    • @wezingwira9574
      @wezingwira9574 Рік тому

      we know what they were laughing at 😅, she's packed

  • @collinsmcstyle2701
    @collinsmcstyle2701 Рік тому +1

    This girl is not an Atheist.. there is just something that happened to her and she's Blaming God for letting such to happen... She seeks answers to alot of questions .. we can help her solve hrr doubts... The answers are in the Bible...

  • @ulunjitandizo
    @ulunjitandizo Рік тому +1

    The arguments were not well articulated from both sides, the guests seemed to be nervous, and they didn't express themselves well enough. In every argument they kept derailing from the main topic of discussion. Generally though, it was a great episode to watch, very engaging.

  • @kelenaduweduwe813
    @kelenaduweduwe813 Рік тому

    Now we should be commenting on the last episodes. Next Tuesday you owe us 2 episodes 😂😂😂.

  • @fightmma2343
    @fightmma2343 Рік тому

    Awe babe Tasiyanna aba nayo 😏😏😏chilimo limo chi babe

  • @Thatzulugirl05
    @Thatzulugirl05 Рік тому +4

    This podcast for today awe mwe let’s bring some better debates this one was good topic but the people involved seemed to have stressed out the hosts lol 😅😅😅😅

    • @bevenmushibwe4055
      @bevenmushibwe4055 Рік тому +2

      i agree. Both guests dont know where they stand. They just have an idea of what they are living by, they are at student level

  • @Steven-t9c1v
    @Steven-t9c1v Рік тому

    This is lovely