Why The Yamaha Volvo V8 Exists?
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- Опубліковано 20 чер 2024
- There are brands that made a specific engine concept that often that it became a part of their brand. Most certainly, a straight-5 is such an engine for Volvo, but when they announced and introduced a V8, no one had a word against it. It gained so much popularity and spiced up some models even more. And that's not the whole story of the B8444S.
00:00 Intro
00:34 Yamaha involvement
01:19 Engine design
02:53 60° vs 90° V-8
03:53 Balancing shaft issue
04:31 Yamaha Outboard 5.3
05:39 5.6-litre
06:29 Summary
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You have to give Yamaha credit where it's due. That is a really nice sounding 4.4 liter V8.
Yamaha has also made some of the most reliable outboard engines ever, especially the two stroke models and the Enduro models used in poor countries are simply brilliant
Yamaha has been designing for decades, provided “creamy engines“ to numerous automotive manufacturers including Toyota and Ford, now I guess volvo. They are makers of excellent engines. They are the innovators.
All v8s sound the same
@@RivieraByBuick I respectfully disagree. Two engines of identical displacement can sound and behave completely different based on internal components and tuning.
@@jeremymcauliff8485 there could be veeery minor changes in sound. But the main thing why sound is the same is firing order. Regardless the engine volume. 2.5 l and 8 l v8 sound the same if they have the same firing order. And i am talking about the engine sound, not the exhaust - which can be very different.
Yamaha should just make their own cars tbh
They once had a 800hp supercar concept im 2015 tokyo motor show. Too bad they don't have enough budget.
With Yamaha speakers and amplifiers.
@@Erispedia fantastic idea
The OX-99 existed but was stupid expensive for the time
I could’ve sworn they had atleast one
Such a creamy engine, handles good power and runs smoothly. What an engine they made, also amazing for engine swaps in narrow cars too. Also a very reliable engine, I know people who push these beyond 400k miles now problem.
Creamy??
@@oneaboveallferrarifan2725 smooth
If Yamaha makes it, it is a winner and not cheap.
As long as one of the belt pulleys doesn’t seize up.
@@mtylerw Replace them in time, and they won't. But many owners forget about it...
one of the best technical auto channels on youtube. i like that im not being screamed at or just watching dudes in a garage not explaining anything.
You must have watched scotty kilmer lmao😂 he explains it well but hes always screaming
My pleasure
@@tobyrempel8952 . Yep . Scotty Kilmer certainly is " Unique " .
Anything that Yamaha has ever been involved with from engines, to musical instruments, to sound mixing equipment always works, and works very well, is reliable and very durable. Yamaha have always been very talented at making excellent products. You could buy a Volvo quite happily and have every confidence that you will get an exceptional V8 engine with it.
Yamaha is I *BIG* reason that the Lexus LFA sounds so good.
Sadly couldn't say the same about my 115cc Yamaha moped tho from chugging fuel now it chugs fuel AND burns oil at the same time
I know it burns oil because it shoots white smoke from the exhaust if its blue your fuel and oil mixed together
chugging fuel means it was probably running rich which eventually gummed up the piston rings so now it burns oil. A carb clean/ rebuild probably could've prevented that
As a current and permanent owner of a B8444S I would say this engine is perfect.
Great video, fond memories. I used to help out once in a while with the V8, while I was working on the SI6. Managed to destroy one of the first prototype engines while changing camshafts. Went by the markings on the gears and the chain (RTFM), and made the cardinal fault of not manually turn the engine a couple of turns after replacement (this was done on overtime on a Sunday, we all wanted to go home).
There is a long story behind it, but it ended up costing Volvo 100.000 dollars in 2003 money, and a lot of dissapointed Japanese representatives coming in on Monday morning for the emmissions test with the new cam setup
That would have been embarrassing! I'm sure the boss was not impressed.
@@FonicsSuck To say she wasn't impressed is quite an understatement. Since we worked over the weekend we had the Monday off. I was sound asleep at 7:30 AM when the phone rang, and the first thing I hear when I pick it up is "What the hell have you done?!" Haha, luckily, I was only assisting and the guy from the V8-project got most of the blame. Both of us got to keep our jobs, phew
Do you work at Volvo? What could I say about the T6 3.0 engine? (B6304t4) Is it true that it was made together with Porsche?
im a yamaha marine technician, knew there was similarities but never knew the 350 was the same motor with reversed intake and exhaust cams. neat.
I own 4 Volvos with this engine. Love the sound and performance
Maintenance?
I have a 2010 S80 V8 Executive, and there’s a lot to like about my car. But I think the engine defines it and will elevate its status years from now compared to the other S80s
Definitely! The T6 has comparable power but the V8 has that awesome sound at start up.
I think the same. This engine is a masterpiece. I had XC90 V8 and now S80 V8 for 7 years. No blank switch, all options. You just can find anything better. Even for double the money!
Funny to see you here, we are friends on Insta- I own an ‘08 S80 v8. The engine definitely makes the car, I’m driving mine into the ground!
Yep that v8is sweet sounding I bought my 2007 S80 6 months after my first ever Volvo a 1995 960 estate the 3ltr straight six in the 960 is sooth and graceful and the V8 a monster compared to it but both can cruise all day at low revs and eat up the miles .. my 960 makes my smile, my s80 makes me wet myself and grin from ear to ear..
I bought my V8 because as soon as I heard it I fell in love 😍
I love my 2010 Xc90 V8.. But thinking of trading it for a lexus LS460 V8 or Toyota Majesta V8, but 2 different types of cars.. Here's my clips of my V8
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Yamaha has some really good engineers. I would love to see a video why toyota called yamaha to make a cylinder head for toyota's 3sge beams engine and what is good about it and the weak spots
Good idea, noted!
Funnily enough basically every performance engine Toyota has made, had the heads designed by Yamaha, 4A-GE, 3S-GTE, 2ZZ-GE, 2JZ-GTE, 1LR-GUE. Toyota's as performance cars would be nothing without them.
@@absolutezero7344 in a way they are a bit like Cosworth was back in 60s/70s.
@@VisioRacer Not just the 3SGE, but all Toyota -G cylinder heads are made by Yamaha, as far back as the 2T-G and 18R-G of the 70s, which were DOHC, 2-valve, hemi 4 cylinders.
I’ve had the pleasure of doing 5 balance shaft replacements working as a Volvo technician. I did 2 in chassis before I learned it’s much easier to drop the engine for that repair.
Do the heads still need to come off to do it?
@Caspian Bell - yes. One head must come off because one cannot remove the balance shaft rear bearing cap with both heads in place. I could not even remove the cover plate over the balance shaft valley with both heads on - even with swivel sockets and extensions.
Was this on the pre-2005 models like the video suggests?
2005 was the first model year that the V8 was available on XC90. In 2007, Volvo put it in the S80 as well.
That is the only reason that is holding me back of buying one… that awfull expensive repair of the balance shaft😩
I remember when my brother showed up at the family summer cottage with a prototype XC90 V8, before they were released. Amazing engine.
I own a 2007 Volvo XC90 v8, still driving strong at 187k miles, best automobile and engine I have ever owned, silky smooth v8 acceleration, drives as good as it rolled off the assembly line.
I just bought one my friend 07 as well with 116k on the clock..I went ahead because of the toyota asin tranny and of course a yamaha v8..any major issues? Anything to be on the lookout around this mileage?
Picked up my 07 XC90 V8 Sport in Passion Red last July and couldn’t be happier. Great video!
What's even more impressive is how Volvo managed to put a 3 liter inline six transversely in my V60. Sad to see all cool Volvo engines gone now though :/
Don't bash the VEA too much, while the i4 is less unique it's still a remarkably smooth and power dense engine family
Volvo engines are still pretty bad ass the T6 is pretty sweet makes similar hp to the ford inline 6 the way they setup the inline 6 is how they can fit the motor into the chassis by putting the front of the engine to the transmission
@@brannonatkinson Audi did this with their V8 and V6 in 2006, and BMWs new B58 is this way too, I think it's an awesome design!
@@nilssjoberg2522 Yeah the new i4 is good on power, I even ordered one for next year (T8) but they still don't sound quite as good sadly :/
@@brannonatkinson which Ford i6? The Barra?
I purchased a 2007 S80 V8 and I love it, its got enough power and has all the comfort you need for a older car and sounds fantastic
GMC had a 60 degree V8 with splayed crank pins from the '66 model year through '72. It was 637 cubic inches and was produced as both a gasoline and diesel engine.
That same engine series had a 702 cube v12 dubbed the 'Twin 6' as well
*In the USA* the S80 *V8* was only offered for *model years* 2007 to 2010.
It's a pity the 5.3 stroker & 5.6 overbored engines were never put into a car. Imagine a Noble M600 with a 5.6 plus boost! M800 anyone?
This dude makes me pay attention more than teachers do, great vids man
Much appreciated!
I’m about to pick up my second Volvo, looking at a 2007 XC90 V8 Sport. The one I test drove was smooth as butter, very different than the V70XC I’m currently driving.
Just wanna say thankyou for all your efforts in such an awesome channel 🙏
Regards
Australia 🦘
I amazed you can consistently come up with such interesting content!
I love the fact that when editing footage in you visually switch to a new scene but keep the sound of the footage running.
When you said 60 degree V8, my first thought was "balancing shaft" and sure enough, it has one and it's a problem. Larger bore and stroke with a 60 degree v6 to reach similar displacements would probably have been a better way to go. Gets rid of the need for both a balance shaft and split journals.
Only on the first model year (05) and it was because people would spray water directly into the engine bay, down the wrong hole, which would cause it.
@@lomamedia676 a sealed self lifetime lubricated bearing in the middle of the engine that requires removal of at least 1 cylinder head....yeah id have to agree that's a problem
many 60° V6 engine still use balancing shafts, especially diesel ones. If I was to decide the engine choice, I think a VR6 would have been the absolute best engine to fit transversely
@@jamesmay5394 I never said it was not a problem. It just won't be one if you buy a newer example and avoid the rare 2005 model year.
@@lomamedia676 Increasing complexity decreases reliability. Always.
I have a s80 07 a lovely engine and car, specially here in northern sweden where i have good use of the all wheel drive during the winter with all snow and ice.
Awesome someone made a comprehensive video on this gem. Thank you 😊
I had a V8 SHO. Not much torque, but it happily revved to its 7k redline and sounded amazing. It looked great in the engine bay too.
I'm planning on taking that engine and combining it either with a 5-speed or 6-speed from a Mazda 3 or Ford Focus and putting it in my 92 Mazda MX3 gs. Like the one up there in the profile pic. All I know is 2,500 lb with a 250 horsepower v8 run by a megasquirt 3 ecu.. if I can figure out a way to put in the rear diff from a Mazda speed 6, I might even make one all wheel drive. Sure I could buy a hellcat, but I'd rather build something unique that revs to 7 to 8,000 RPMs and will do 160 mph.
I have a 2007 S80 V8 awd. 170k miles. With muffler and resonator delete! Sounds fantastic.
how bad is the drone? I recently picked up an S80 V8 and I want to do something to the exhaust but I don't want alot of drone since it's my daily driver.
@@jacobgravitt9796 in my opinion it's not that bad. Not nearly as bad as my 2013 dodge charger with a hemi and the MDS cylinder shutoff that drones bad at 80mph when the MDS kicks in.
Could you make a video on what it sounds like please?
Volvo had some crazy nice builds back then, I've got a T6 from -02, a twin turbo straight six in a luxury volvo, it's nuts :D
this is where Europeans differ from Asians , innovative
@@Sevan59 How is that more innovative than Asian manufacturers?
Hows that 4T65E holding up? It was always the weak link on those whiteblock T6s
@@nilssjoberg2522 Really smooth so far, (it's only got around 8k miles on it), I do know that they strengthened the trans on the 02-models and forward after they were a problem in the earlier models... not sure how the strengthened it though.
@@Pellepalt I knew GM used the 4T65HD on the supercharged 3800, I'm not sure what's different or if they can be swapped. I've heard maybe it's possible?
I looked at S80 V8s before buying my Merc CLS 500, as having owned a Volvo before (C70 5-cylinder), I like their ethos & think they're a left-field choice. Unfortunately I found them to be quite rare. Great cars.
Indeed. I would love to own an S80 V8! A few years ago, I had the chance to buy one, but wife didn’t like that it felt “too heavy”. 😢
@@ghostwrench2292 change wife
I have a 6-speed AWD T5 S40. A complete stranger offered to buy it cash within a week of me driving it off the lot. Nope. I've yet to see another one in the wild.
@@similaritiesendhere I used to wrench at a Volvo dealer and I can say I can think of 1 S40 that ever came through (any of the 3 Volvo dealers where I worked) that were 6MT AWD. It was a blue S40 traded in and I did VCT seals on it. You surely own a unicorn. Take good car of it!
@@ghostwrench2292 Thanks, bro. Mine is a 2007 back when Volvo was in bed with Ford. They're basically the nicest Ford Focus ever built unless you're into drag racing Honda Civics still. It's not that kind of car.
There's this video on UA-cam of one being tracked at Nurburgring.The driver was effortlessly keeping up with and passing "sportier" vehicles as if they were just commuting to work. They're little bulldogs in the midrange and T5's sound a lot like baby V10's when pushed hard. Unicorn indeed.
I've longed to do a restomod P1800 with one of those in it. It'd make a lot of people real angry, but it's not like that's ever stopped me before.
I have a 1800es and a 4.4 it is next project after my jetboat gets a W8 engine, it was getting the 3.4 sho v8, but now I have the w8 for it.
No LS motors for me.
There's an XC90 in my town that runs around with a very nice exhaust setup. Possibly just a muffler replacement, but it sounds significantly meaner than the rest of the car looks.
There's was stock sport exhaust available for xc90s
@@Damien.D no, this is definitely a raspier... I hate to say "hack job," because it sounds better than that, but it definitely has a "bolt on a set of universal Flowmasters" quality to it. Good, but not OEM good.
Circa 2010 I worked at a Volvo dealership and one of the techs did a repair on an XC90 V8 AWD system. The issue only presented itself at WOT, so after the repair and before putting the rest of the exhaust on, the tech took it for a road test to verify the car was fixed. It was the funniest thing to hear a loud, screaming V8 at WOT and see this SUV blasting down the road! 😂
He had his catalytic converter stolen 😂🤣
@@Nagrom510 hahahahaha got em
Yamaha are known for their extreme engines. Remember the 72 degree Lexus LF-A V10 engine?
I love mine , had a Brabus 210 and a Pontiac gto but the Volvo edged them both out with a complete package. 2007 50k on the clock full option with Remus free flow exhaust and modded chip full hp and sounds great .
The S80 with that v8 was the first car that surprised me with how quick it was
I have a 84 Yamaha Venture which has a 1200cc V4, it's the Parent Engine for the Vmax. Anyways the Combustion Chamber's, Valve arrangement, Valve Relief on Piston top. Everything is almost identical.
Very interesting indeed! Thanx for the video!
you've got a new sub mate, keep it up ;)
Got myself a s80 v8 last year and hell I'm happy with that car :D
if it's good enough for Judd and noble, it's good enough for me
was the balance shaft issue fixed during a certain year? also why did you say that the s80 doesn't have the problem if it has the same engine. Looking for s80 or XC90 but want to avoid this issue
The last image shown is the V8 Supercar racing series in Australia.
Yamaha should make more engines. They are always great.
The Noble M600 used a twin-turbocharged Yamaha-built Volvo B8444S and you could choose from variable power outputs ranging from 450 hp (336 kW; 456 PS) (Road setting, 0.6 bar (8.7 psi) pressure), 550 hp (410 kW; 558 PS) (Track setting, 0.8 bar (12 psi)) and 650 hp (485 kW; 659 PS) (Race setting, 1 bar (15 psi)) through the use of a switch present on the dashboard.
I had the 06 ocean race xc90 with the v8 but my sister totaled it when I wasn’t home 😖 I miss it so much
👍 deployed. Great content VR.
I'm sure they could have squeezed a ton more power out of this thing, but they chose not to, to make it more reliable, I assume. Cool Engine!
With Yamaha making the base design with bigger displacement for their marine applications, I wonder if anyone has checked if parts are interchangeable in order to stroke the Volvo unit.
No replacement for displacement, as they say.
For when you want a V8 on your Volvo 240 while keeping it all Volvo.
I like the way you think!
I was working at a gradywhite dealership when those yamaha 350s came out. We had never seen an outboard like those. The torque is unreal. They behave like a diesel, and for those who are unfamiliar; the differences between diesel and gas on land are exaggerated on the water, in my opinion at least. You couldnt goose those motors to stop the boat backing down the slip cuz anything more than idle would send a geyser up in the air when the propwash hit the bulkheads. I miss driving those things.
It is a nice and smooth engine. Just so nice to drive and with an awesome sound
I was just thinking about this Yamaha Engine the other week and boom here you are. lol Let's get some videos on smooth creamy engines. :)
Great tone to it!😀
Very reliable engines I would say only problem was the power steering pumps leak and both main seals but other then that they are great engine
this engine was also used in Noble M600
That's what the Video said.....................
Who cares about Noble!!!!
There's a guy or two that fitted one of these into a S60.
Also some bold blokes who did in an s40. I'd kill to drive that
Super interesting top work
Thanks!
Awesome engine and awesome video
I had XC90 V8 back in the days, such a great silky smoothy motor with low consumption for a V8.
I'm swapping this from xc90 to my sebring, the underside and subframe stuff is very similar to mazdas cx-7's and mazda 3's (even the brakes) platform and transfers over in a nice package. v8 awd convertible is what I'm going for. Already made the measurements and all i have to do is shorten the driveshaft and redo the subframe mount. Glad somones finally covering this cool AND very cheap to get engine
Yeah, but then you have a Sebring, which is a total piece of shit. Just buy a Volvo V70 instead.
@@richardharrold9736 it was my first car and a v70 isn't a convertible. Plus the 97 jxi is one of my favorite convertible body styles. Finally I'm well aware of how junk things are on there aside from the motor as I've basically redone everything on it even tho it only has 100000 Miles, everything around the motor falls apart. Hence the swap :)
@@frjhracing I said C70, not V70. The Sebring is just utterly awful in every way, it even looks terrible.
@@richardharrold9736 dude can't even read your own comment where it says v70...lol, to each their own. Sorry I gotta plan and don't care how stupid it sounds
@@frjhracing damn, I definitely typed C70, must have been autocorrect. Didn't proofread before posting. Anyway, C70 is the same platform as S80 and XC90 so it should all bolt straight in, plus it looks so much better than the POS Sebring...
My mom has this engine in her ‘05 XC90. Great performance and power… fuel economy is on the low side though
I understand the love for these engines because I have a 2007 xc90 with the v8. I was a kid when it came out but I always loved the xc90. But I'm a v8 lover and I never knew volvo had a v8 until I brought one. (2020) I test drive and chose it over a 2012 3.2 xc90. It is addictive fun to drive this machine, but an extreme cost. I would drive this thing like a nascar ( literally). Drove it through all the snow storms and felt safe and confident while doing so. But I abused it so bad i broke the transmission. Expensive lesson to learn but i didn't value what I had and now am looking at my xc90 sit out of commission until I can to afford to PROPERLY FIX MY TRANSMISSION, which will be $7,000. I paid $3,200 for and I would love more videos on how to service these cars in all. Not to many out there. Any advice hit me up. I love this video and look at all volvo videos because my xc90 has brought me the experience of, take care of your shit. If you want it you have to afford the expense of maintaining it. And all of this said is coming from a mopar fan. Cheers everyone
just buy a yugo.
7k for a trans rebuild? what are they smoking?
4k absolute tops. At that price just find a new trans...
Nice, ive got the 07 model as well im looking forward to digging into it this summer with my bud, ill let ya know if i find anything that would be usefull for you
Man these things can take abuse but some have valve failure
My buddy has an S80, I had the pleasure of doing a front cover because the serpantine belt ideler bearing ate it's boss. Good engine, bad bearing.
woah! thx for sharing
Ooo I made it in a video! 😆
This engine has been enlarged to 5.6 litres as a Yamaha boat engine. There is also a 4.2 V6 derivative.
engine was also used in noble M600 sports Car in UK
The saying goes "cherry on top" or "icing on the cake" !!!
How about for tuning? Are they any good?
Thanks sir great video man thats one awesome V8😀
6:55, AUSTRALIAN V-8 Supercar Racing Series.
my 2009 XC90 V8 with 280,000ks on the clock, still runs & looks like new!
Amazing engine! absolutely love mine ❤ - Volvo 4 Life!
An amazing car for sure I've got a 2007 with 227k, never known a car with such character
VOLVO社製V8エンジン
珍しいですね!
この動画で存在を
初めて知りました!
遠い昔正式に後輪駆動車を
生産していた頃に
出して頂きたかったです!
My buddy had an s80 that he homebrew supercharged. Super cool car.
Would love to know more about his setup 🙏🏼
My volvo do 400.000 km with no mechanical problem. Fantástic engine.
Can you do a video about the 4.2 V8 from Audi?
Whoever owns the boat at 5:05 is a maniac!!!
I love it when yamaha helps with engine designing
You forgot about the Noble M600, a supercar that uses a twin turbo varient of this engine
I love my v8 xc90. The motor is a gem.
I had an XC90 with this V8 and man I loved that car
You didn't mention the Noble M600 with a turbocharged version of this engine
Has anybody modified the s80 engine for power? I’d love some information
If the I5 in my V-70 ever goes I'm swapping to make it a V8-70 and will need a longitudinal mount V8, will either go LS or Volvo whichever is cheaper.
Lol that'd be so cool..😆 but as long as you change the oil every so often and don't let the timing belt fail those I5 engines never die lol.
@@michaelkuzmadutton7879 I may have to to a transmission, it's one of those auto "sealed for life" units. If it fails and I can't somehow get the swap I'm moving to the Ford Panther platform with a nice single valve unstressed V8, BoF construction, and doing some simple mods like wide whites, red steelies, chrome hubcaps, and a rumbly dual exhaust. A "street car" needs comfort and looks more than speed and a Merc done right never goes out of style.
@@themadscientest that's going to be neat. I'm not too sure about the trans durability but my c70 with the 2.4l turbo and a 5 speed manual has 275,000 hard lead foot banging gears nascar style driving and still runs like a clock.
@@themadscientest on either it's 2nd or 3rd clutch I can't remember for sure.
As soon as Yamaha released the 350 hp first version of the outboard v8 i knew it was based of the volvo engine. The compactness it was developed for is perfect for this application.
looks like in line 5 is still the best reliable way
Volvo's 3.0l T6 is better tbh. Doesn't have oil burning issues the T5 2.5 does.
Best sound of entire V8 without turbo.
Its hillarious that it sounds FAST AF but goes slow as hell🤣🤣🤣
These are great engines. Very smooth and reliable, and sound great. You just need to keep up on maintenance, as with any engine. The most annoying thing is keeping up with fixing all the oil leaks!
07 S80 V8, owner for 7 years now, even used on track days. Not a single leaking.
@@Mark__A Nice! We've had our '07 XC90 V8 Sport for about 3 years now, and I've had to reseal the timing cover and replace the valve cover gaskets. It has a small leak from the upper oil pan, but I'm not going to touch that until it's absolutely necessary.
Please please please make a video about the Mercedes M111 engines
But as back in my country.. they ginormous expensive when volvo came in to the workshop. Cause of sparepart are kind of rare to find.
We have an optimised S80 V8 AWD ....approximately a little over 5 sec to 100km/h...
How much boost can they take?
I don't know why more companies don't use Yamaha.....when they did the original Taurus sho ,I was impressed and I'm a Ford hater. My cousin , has an original sho with 256000 plus miles and he drives it every Friday on payday. On 2018 he drove it from Kosciusko Ms to Houston tx.
So it's a v8 r1m ? And sounds like one 🤯
Wonder if the 5.6 cam would fit in the 4.4 to build a stroker?
Crank, not cam. Assuming the firing order is the same, yes, it should work.
1:13 ... i know that sound... i live whit S80 from 2016 .. no problems since... make sure you regulary change oils and filters and it will be happy harmony what i can say
Maybe a stupid question, but can you place that boat v8 into car without heavily modify the complete engine?
I wish I could speak about it with the right person who knows more about outboards. But there is an Evinrude V8 powered Volvo Amazon which is a similar concept
hit 5.33 0-60 mph in mine. only has CAI and a straight pipe :). I also get 25 mpg on the highway 😳