They say that Xin Jia comes from Chen Zhaokui, but the Chen Village style to me looks different from other students of Chen Zhaokui's lineage. In fact, the so-called "Four Tigers" of Chen Village all seem to be at least slightly different from each other, but their Lao Jia are pretty close. Do you have a theory of why this may be the case? I know this topic can be "political" so if you don't care to speculate, I understand.
One of the great things about taiji is the expectation that performances will differ from one person to the next. It is a living tradition. In the video I said that New Frame trains martial techniques. But more accurate would be that it trains the expression of internal power. (Old Frame trains understanding & building internal power). Each person is different so naturally their expression will differ too. I’m not a historian, but my understanding is that what we refer to as new frame comes from Chen Fake who taught in Beijing.
@@_eastmountain Yes, Yang Style also has some variation, but I think less than Chen. Sun and Wu even less. Perhaps it is kind of like when a botanist wants a new variety of flower, they go to the place where it evolved because that's where the diversity is. Although I'm sure Chen Fa Ke had a lot to do with it too.
There is 83 form master feng and zhang followers teach, can you please tell me difference, and what the best for overall purpose which includes health, spiritual and martial.
@@Radheychib I don't know Feng Zhiqiang's Hunyuan routine, unfortunately. Sometimes the postures are counted differently, so it is the same routine but the number of postures is different. Sometimes a master will create a shorter routine for teaching purposes, like Chen Zheng-lie's 18 Posture routine.. My preference is the traditional old frame (laojia) routines, both 1st & 2nd (yilu & erlu).
This is a great summary of the differencies between the frames. Thank you from someone who has just started practicing the new frame 🙏
Glad it's helpful. New frame can be challenging to learn, but also very rewarding!
They say that Xin Jia comes from Chen Zhaokui, but the Chen Village style to me looks different from other students of Chen Zhaokui's lineage. In fact, the so-called "Four Tigers" of Chen Village all seem to be at least slightly different from each other, but their Lao Jia are pretty close. Do you have a theory of why this may be the case?
I know this topic can be "political" so if you don't care to speculate, I understand.
One of the great things about taiji is the expectation that performances will differ from one person to the next. It is a living tradition.
In the video I said that New Frame trains martial techniques. But more accurate would be that it trains the expression of internal power. (Old Frame trains understanding & building internal power). Each person is different so naturally their expression will differ too.
I’m not a historian, but my understanding is that what we refer to as new frame comes from Chen Fake who taught in Beijing.
@@_eastmountain Yes, Yang Style also has some variation, but I think less than Chen. Sun and Wu even less.
Perhaps it is kind of like when a botanist wants a new variety of flower, they go to the place where it evolved because that's where the diversity is.
Although I'm sure Chen Fa Ke had a lot to do with it too.
There is 83 form master feng and zhang followers teach, can you please tell me difference, and what the best for overall purpose which includes health, spiritual and martial.
@@Radheychib Feng's style is mostly for health. You might like Hong's Practical Method.
@@Radheychib I don't know Feng Zhiqiang's Hunyuan routine, unfortunately. Sometimes the postures are counted differently, so it is the same routine but the number of postures is different. Sometimes a master will create a shorter routine for teaching purposes, like Chen Zheng-lie's 18 Posture routine.. My preference is the traditional old frame (laojia) routines, both 1st & 2nd (yilu & erlu).