Nah get the cbr1000rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr fireblade sp version
I personally loved the styling of the RR SP fireblade with the gold wheels and silver frame/swingarm over the current RR-R SP. A gorgeous machine and more capable than I could ever hope to be.
OC: If I had the cash and a track nearby, I’d go with the SP model over trying to build up the regular model. That being said, I don’t have that kind of cash and I’m not much into CBRs but if I were…
I don’t understand why you’re comparing a old cbr non SP to a new cbr SP. i would’ve understood the 2019 SP but you went old basic to newest highest spec.
this video feels wrong, your comparing two different models. You have an older RR and a new SP. the 2017 RR had a SP model too. the new model is RRR and RRRSP! so your RR is the older model fireblade!
Ummmmm correct me if I’m wrong (as the US market might be different to here in the U.K.) but you are not comparing apples with apples. This year fireblade is a CBR1000RR-R. The R SP is the SP version of that. The fireblade you had to compare is last years hence the RR not RR-R.
The US market is different. The 2 models available are cbr 1000rr or cbr 1000 rr-r SP . In Us the 1000 rr-r (no SP) that you can buy in Europe isn't available.
@@2wheelsonly614 not by that much. About 15hp. It's the lightest 1000 cc SS. For a bike to ride on the streets, it's pretty good. I'd take it over an R1.
I’m going to say this again. As an owner of the RR, it’s not worth it. The bike is brilliant, more comfortable, has more power than you could feasibly use. I ride it to work, weekend rides and track days. It’s a phenomenal all round bike that’s very comfortable for a sports bike. Slap a titanium akra exhaust on it, flash the ECU (which you can do yourself) and you’ve got yourself nearly a 200hp bike (191BHP at the wheel) for 10k less. More comfortable, awesome looking. Unless you have the money and don’t give a shit and just want a trophy bike (and let’s be real, if that was you, you wouldn’t be here) then get the cheaper bike and live your best life my guy.
RR SP OWNER here perfect balanced bike with all the electronics for the geeks ligtweight and more than enough power when flashed! Like 80% here can even use the 200+ hp the RRR got and believe me its heavier than the sp and sp2.
Good job. Chase did a video year1/2 ago claiming he would do comparisons and n 600cc motorcycles after he did a 650 shootout. He apparently don’t care about newer riders bcuz he doesn’t comment on my requests of when he’ll release the video
@@cdubbrider3740 If you are a new rider and are also looking at anything 600cc and up, you're doing something wrong anyway. A 600cc Supersport is the second last thing you should be looking for as a beginner. 650cc is recommended if your "beginner" mind is mature enough. Anything higher powered is just dumb (for a beginner), because if you looked at any of the R7 videos in this channel you'd know that even that is pleeeenty for even experienced riders.
@@Daniel-dj7fh ur not 100% accurate. As I still consider myself a newer rider bcuz I have so much more 2 learn as a rider. I be had my license 2-3 years and have owned ninja 650 4 a year now. I think a 600 is an adequate learner bike 4 anyone who has common sense a a rider. Not every rider is a throttle head (contrary 2 popular belief). A beginner rider can do the same thing as a 600cc does.
@@cdubbrider3740 Of course a 600cc can ride the same as a 125cc, but most of the people who want to ride bikes want to ride fast or be cool. And therefore a big bike is not a good idea. You said you have had a 650 for a year now, but you also have had 2 year pre experience which doesn't mean you have learned everything. But you are not a fresh beginner anymore. Anyone who is responsible and has the right mind can even start on a 1000cc if they want. But not many have either traits.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yup. My point is that a foolish rider can get hurt on a 125cc if it’s not a 600 tho. So it’s technically not gonna save everyone 4rm riding dumb.
I wish Honda would re-design the 600 rr and then make a ‘RRR’ SP version of that. It would also be really cool if they did a 250 RRR SP that revved to like 20k rpm and made 55-60hp
I too had this choice. I bought a new old stock 2019 CBR1000RR-SP. Got the more comfy ride position of the RR, and the fancy electronic ohlins suspension, and titanium bits that make the SP special. And I got it all for 15 grand brand new.
I know it's like apples and oranges but how does that compare to the Hayabusa I have a 2005 I want something smaller for the garage is it more comfortable or the same
Coming from European rider, I have to note it's comparison of two completely different generations of the bike with a huge leap between them. In Europe and other non-US markets the double-R is discontinued and there is a "plain" non-SP triple-R available in stead of double-R, which would be more fair comparison. Double-R is still the good old road-oriented sportsbike, while triple-R is an all new race-bred sportsbike with the namesake being the only similarity, hardly comparable in my opinion. That being said, I love all Fireblade content, old and new, so thanks for the vid :)
It’s because the SC77 does not meet the EU5 regulations and is not sold anymore. My wife has a 2017 with Akrapovic which is fantastic to ride and an awesome bike (we slapped braided brakelines in and some extras). The new SC82 meets EU5 regulations
You missed they biggest difference between them. The RR is the old model (first produced in 2017) which is still produced for the US. You don't get the new MY21 "base" model for some reason. It is labelled the CBR1000RR-R. What you have essentially done is compare a first gen BMW S1000RR with an M1000RR.
I recently went to a Honda dealership as I want to purchase the brand new CBR650R... I saw the RR and RR-R SP and damn, they're huge! The rear tire so sooo fat, I love the look of them, I can only imagine how crazy these machine are honestly!
OC: As much as I love the SP I think I would want to build a regular RR into the way I want WHICH I think can be as exciting at the end of it all. PLUS you never really see a fully built Honda CBR 1000 at bike meets which can also be a head turner. I know with my type of riding I’m on the bike every weekend and wouldn’t make it out to track days much. I’m a weekend rider and bike night/cruise kinda guy. To me turning a bike that is out-the-box “ok” into a head turner is equally satisfying as having a track ready, the Mark Marquez experience Honda RRR SP
I still have the 2017 SP 2 that i built (big budget), and the new RR-R SP.. 2 different feeling machines, love the SC77 chassis, looks and comfort. the new bike is for those times when it is about putting out your best performance..
CBR 1000 RR was released 2017 as stock version. They release an new "fireblade" about every 4 year. so you are comparing a 4 year old bike non "special edition version" to a 2021 special edition ,HRC edition. That's why there are so many discrepancies your telling us about, and price diffrence.
So… we made this exact same video lol. The Fireblade was built specifically for WSBK racing, hence the winglets and 215HP. The Blade’s handling is sublime mostly down to the frame, then suspension tbh. 99.9% of riders should get the RR, it’s a great bike with plenty of potential. But the Fireblade feels fantastic ripping off an apex and flickering the TC at a track (as I’ve shown 🙃)
Not gonna lie . When I saw the CBR 1000RR I laid my eyes on her like damm she is the best fcking machine I've ever see . Ik there are plenty of bikes that are best of best in 1000cc segment but. RR ue emotion for me . May be I'm future inshallah I'll buy it. And as for the new model or CBR -SP it's have its own looks and power and that is a killer machine both are best in there respective fields.
I have the 2018 CBR1000RR and I have no complaints. The bike is comfortable for a super sport motorcycle and I used it to commute and have fun, the only modifications it has are power commander V, Akropovic full exhaust system, K&N filter, body sliders, and double bubble wind shield. The RRR is awesome but it is out of my price range and I would never be able to use its full potential.
Exactly I just bought a 2021 cbr rr who is gonna run 212 mph this guy looks like he might but only to grab some crispy creme gtfoh he's talking about a bike but admits he is a mediocre rider at best
@@chorseundgrd I truly hope you get to the dealership wouldn't budge at all they knew what they had and the demand is way higher than the supply I paid around 19k out the door i wanted the matte black one or i wouldve spent the extra 300 on the 2022 I've put about one thousand in upgrades and about to drop another one on ECU flashed and dyno tuned honestly it's a great bike but I hate the fact they put so many restrictions on it
I dont see 12k.....don't forget to give up one thing you still get credit for stock stuff....slap on ohlins and you should get credited for your showa, same with other stuff And how many can ride a stock bike to its potential, especially in the city Buy RR, get susp tuned and throw on a pipe and map or tune I would get RR
2 different generations of blade, why didn't you test rr sp against the rr-r sp? That would of been a proper comparison, track day bike against track day bike. Or didn't the u.s. get the sp of the older bike?
A fair comparison would have been the cbr1000rr sp vs the cbr1000rrr sp. Would have been more fair. The previous sp has full ohlins semi active suspension and brembos also.
OC: For my money I'm going with the RR, a trailer, 5 sets of tires and as many track days as I can get. The RR delivers the power in a far more approachable manner and it's output is closer to ideal IMO. In the years that I've been riding, it seems like anything too far over 150bhp makes me more concerned about how the electro nannies are going to react if I go into the next corner too hard for its liking or what the fuel cut will be like if I give it too many beans on corner exit. I'd rather ride hard on a machine that has its handling and traction engineered into it rather than programmed.
This. I can push a 600cc to the max, 1000 is a different breed, needs a good track, and a fkin experienced rider. I'm not getting very much out of RSP, but I appreciate the tech and consider it to be the best 1000cc out there.
IMO the SP is really the answer to Italian's super bikes that are more powerful, may look more aggressive but less reliable. At the end of the day, I will only ride any of the big four from Japan and Honda is the no 1 for me.
@@georgiaguardian4696 Great minds think alike brother, I'm of the same attitude and a total Honda fanboy for the same reason. For me it's Honda and then Suzuki, but cause my old man likes Suzuki lol.
Fyi, MY2017 Honda CBR1000RR there's a SP version, but they split it into 2 SP versions. I think maybe you already know that, the SP1 and the SP2. The SP1, the front suspension is already use Ohlins semi active suspension and the front brake calipers are already use Brembo calipers. What about the SP2 ? Actually it's the same as the SP1 version, but in the SP2 the wheels are use from Marchesini forged wheels, which provides much lighter handling than the standard version and the SP1 version
I'm kinda confused at why your base model over there in America Is different to our base model here in England. Our base looks identical to the SP, same bodywork with the wings built in, it still has the showa suspension and nissin brakes, compared to the ohlins and brembo parts of the SP. Our base has the titanium akropovic too. Over here, the bike hasn't sold very well, so you can get an SP registered in 2020, but brand new with zero miles, for the same price as a 2021 registered base model 👍🤠
Everything is great on the triple R. That's your comparison. I could've say that without riding the RSP. Didn't even talked about the brakes 😒🤦🏽♂️. 17 minutes to tell me the RSP is better... Anyone could've said that 🙄. Is like comparing the CBR 650F and the 1000RR. Anyone knows the RR is way better than the F. Duh 🙄🤦🏽♂️😒
This video is literally the most stupid comparison video ever. You compared the old model to the new model. Of course they are different FFS - that was the point of replacing the SC77 with the SC82. I have seldom seen so much misinformation presented in a single video 🤦♂️
OC: This isn't a fair comparison. The RR has two other "SP" models that you completely skipped. The SP1 and the SP2, both of which have similar features to the RR-R SP. These features include braking systems, suspension, weight, and even looks. Although I will say that the RR-R SP is the first bike that I have seen to completely stun most (if not all) non-Honda fans. So much so that even chaseontwowheels does not believe that the RSP should be a CBR :) No surprise here. Anyways, nice video though...
The rr and rr sp is not really that much different in terms of power the only difference is the suspension adjustment by hand or by electronics the brakes don’t work equally as good they just fade faster on the road there real no difference you only feel the difference on the track there only a 1kg weight difference between the 2 and it’s not unsprung or rotational mass.
My cb1000r has same motor. Just asking what is the difference besides price and programming for top end? Its still 3.3 to 60 and 120 in second gear. My r is naked. Still fast af. Top out hard at 168. Still dead and quick enough lol. It a 2022 with mono rear. Engine brake trac control abs and stable. At 13k. And looks sexy naked. Sounds sexy. And who needs go over 168?
Chase has put on some lbs. I was a subscriber back in 2014 and grabbed a sweatshirt I purchased a while back and looked up the channel and legit didn’t recognize him
This bike shares nothing with a moto gp bike when they mention sharing parts with gp bikes they are referring to world superbikes and Hondas special parts used in the top classes of racing. The cbr1000rrr shares nothing with an actual moto gp bike. A moto gp bike is nothing like a cbr1000.
Already made my decision getting the 1000rr save a ton$$ then go to work! dyno, cat delete, servo delete, some exhaust, u have more then ENOUGH TO DESTROY CANYONS MOUNTAINS COAST, keep the rubber on the road boys. Just got the CBR1k at 17989 out the door at ..ride on formally house of motorcycles San Diego! BOOM MATT BLACK METALLIC Yeee& Haaa! ..PS. as 4 weight? Its electronics & ad ons (which r quit impressive) but u need 2 b ON A TRACK so save that cash 💸 boys & go for a lot more rides get that trailer & haul u ass to the COAST OF CALI ..HEAVEN! 1 FOOT IN HEAVEN!
I consider this video totally unfair for comparing two different generations of CBR. I own a 2019 CBR 1000 RR SP2 and has the exact same body like the 2021 CBR 1000 RR you present because Honda kept the same style between 2017-2021 for RR generation Now you to compare the last generation of regular CBR 1000 RR (2017-2021) with the new generation of Fireblade (2021-present having new engine/design) it shows that probably you didn’t do enough research before or you are just unprofessional! What about you to compare a 2019-2020 CBR 1000 RR SP2 with a 2021 Fireblade RRR? You'll be probably surprised that the differences between them are insignificant besides design(because let's be fair - design sells!!!! Especially for this idiot generations craving for attention on social media)! Respectfully,
This video is a prime example of miss-information. To start with, the RR model is actually a left over 2019 "SC77"(the exact model in lineage of WHAT CBR it is) where as the 2021 Triple R-SP is the NEXT model year of CBR, known as an "SC82". This is because everywhere else in the world got a base model version OF the Triple R, where as America got last years left overs because they didnt sell well in America, and Honda didn't want to bring the base model Triple R to the States in fear of low sales. So YES the Triple R-SP is 100% deserving of the CBR name, as it is technically the REAL CBR that was intended to take over the CBR name. Also the CBR name is NOT the only bike name Honda uses to race, the OTHER name is "RC" as in RC30/RC45/RC51/RC213-VS - the REASON why they cant name any of their current race bikes they sell to the public under the RC name, is because they use the RC name exclusively for V style engines where as the CBR is exclusive to inline 4 engines. They both have inline 4 engines, but NO NO NO THE TRIPLE R HAS A BRAND FUCKING NEW ENGINE! THE SC82 ENGINE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE SC77! Its literally the only reason why they can have all those new parts in their bike because it was redesigned to handle it. As for the weight difference, the power to weight ratio in the Triple R-SP is MUCH better than the old SC77 model. For staters, a base SC77 will be LUCKY to make 175whp with a full system, filter, tune and stacks. Anyone who says any different is either on a very built engine or has a very untrustworthy dyno. In fact the low power was a problem Honda had in racing with the SC77, the chassis of the bike is very small and nimble, so if any more power was built into it, after a point it would be a bit unstable, lots of wheelies. The Triple R-SP on the other hand has a redesigned chassis to fix these problems and thats because it can easily hit well over 200whp with a very basic tune, full system, and filter, stacks are still being tested but its an easy 205-210whp bike, where as the base model sc77 would need a LOT of engine work and tuning to come close to it, anyone with Honda experience can tell you, HRC parts to build an engine, yeah thats gonna be a $30-$40,000 engine build not to mention the 3rd gear on that SC77 is historically weak, and the electronics love to create false neutrals with the quickshifter. As for the suspension, I own a 2017 SP2 with the previous gen Semi-Active ohlins, they are easy to adjust and in the hands of a good suspension tech are GREAT when dialed in. HOWEVER Hondas menu is kind of annoying to navigate through and the Showa's are easier to see consistent results out of. The Showa will always remain consistent to how its set, which means the bike is predictable and easy to go faster on. On both Gen 2 and Gen 1 Semi-Actives, you really only see them working on the street, because on the track the servos do the work too slow and cant catch up with race pace. Manual Ohlins would have been MUCH better AND much more race focused, Semi-Actives are very soft and are very road focused, where as ironically the showa's really arent and are more race focused than the ohlins that cost twice as much. What Chaseontwowheels is talking about is because he is not used to riding a bike with tuned suspension, so when a bike does tuning for him it will be remarkably better for him than what he is used to. But if Mr Dave Moss tuned the Showas for him, he would love them both, and if he was track pushing the bike: the Showas might actually feel better. By now if you read this you should know by now, the Triple R-SP has better electronics and display because it was intended to REPLACE the "RR" SC77 from last year, but America couldnt buy enough bikes from Honda in order for them to justify giving us the ACTUAL base model. CO2W should 100% do what he said, and get a trailer and do some track weekends and do a bit more homework. He has a LOT of potential to really inform and teach riders, but only with proper training and learning can he do that. After about 3 weekends on track his content would drastically change for the better, and the knowledge dropped in the video would be much more accurate because he would have a backround that has been coached and tailored to understanding the bikes he is testing. If I had 30k, I wouldnt buy any of those bikes, I would buy a used truck with a 6ft+ bed, a GYTR 2022 R6(the track only bike), a ninja 400(track built) and a track membership.
The basic CBR RR is the most dull looking sports bike out there. I bought a new 2021 BMW S1000RR m package and I am still very happy with it. The RRR has got some bad reviews too and has broken down on some group tests after it was launched.
Mmmmm I'll stay with my 250.... Look at them death machine 😄😄😄.... Nope...my nose 👃 so sensitive I can smell a skunk and then sneeze... Whiskey throttle pop a wheelie and straight into the back of a car.... No thank you
I hate everything about this comparison. There is an actual CBR 1000 RR SP version with Öhlins suspension and Acra Titanium Exhaust and Brembo brakes wich was so much better than the standard version... Please just do a little bit of research and dont push videos just because. I personally prefer well researched Videos that have a meaning and not some half assed Video, because of the weather, that leaves me with no new information and highly unsatisfied... Watched it whole, hoping you would at some point realise...
I guess the new one just more on power loops, ebu and touch start. But rr remains double double any day, mileage & sleeky machine.. less heat, better buying it abroad
It's not even the same bloody bike... The CBR1000RR of the current gen looks the same as the RR-R and has received many of the same upgrades, the bike in the video is an irrelevant comparison as it's old gen, doesn't have the new engine, brakes, suspension, frame, fairings, electronics, nothing. Nothing at all. It's like comparing a Panigale 1299 to a Panigale V4, it's not even a similar bike... 0:36 no shit sherlock, reasons mentioned above.
Such straight, unbent, arms with wrists taking the load when riding. I'm always reminding myself to relax, bend elbows, grip tank, and use my shoulders to steer. I guess I can do vids also without being able to ... I can't finish vid.
OC: SP and track days for sure. I'm still waiting for my first bike to show up at my local dealers....it's an SP...a Yamaha MT-09 SP. I need to get a few years/4000+ miles under my belt before thinking of additional bikes.
The RRR is just a 1000cc tuned up to rev like a 600cc, not fit for road riding but you cant tell on track. Wait for the Vtec or whatever Honda does to catchup to the pack.
Why u gona spend 5k for electronic suspension unless u dont know how to set SAG on the bike. I stick with conventional shocks and forks ajusted properly and learn how feel the road conditions bumps,etc. Dont waste your money 5k for more gizmoz useless
I'd take a CL70 on a back road with no cars before I'd take either of these in that ridiculous traffic. How do you ride with all those morons in cars, pickup trucks, tractor trailers, etc?
I think it could be a good idea for Honda to have a cbr1000r “single R” that is even more relaxed ergonomically. And maybe tuned for more torque. Kinda like a sport tourer? I’ve also seen some concepts for a version that would be like an adventure sport bike. Kinda like the s1000xr
They do have a CB1000R that is basically what you're talking about, just has a bit of a retro styling, they also made a sporty looking variant up to 2017 but that was replaced by the retro look. The adventure touring option is also a thing, in the form of the NT1100 but whilst that's looking like it'll be a very similar chassis to the XR or the Tracer 9, it'll have the 1100cc africa twin engine which is frankly garbage. Typical of honda to chose the most boring and underpowered engine in their entire lineup to put in an otherwise interesting motorcycle...
@@AntaresSQ01 yeah I’m aware of the cb. It’s a cool bike but I’m looking for something with fairings. I’ve seen rendering of the sport tourer with the twin and the 1000 I4. Hopefully they make the right call once it’s official 🤷♂️
I agree. They need a replacement for the cbr1000f they had years ago. They could dress up the cb1000r like what kawasaki did with their z1000 into the ninja 1000.
Here to put my BIG AGREE in here. I have a CBR650R I basically love because it's a "softer" way to get the 600CC screamer thrills (and still more than enough power) in a way more comfortable package (I have full hardbags all around!). I'd love that for an upgrade, a CBR1000R that's still full fairings & is basically just the regular sportsbike but with slightly more relaxed ergos, tuned suspension and ECU, and low exhaust. The low exhaust especially helps in order to mount full bags
@@BigDonkMongo Here I am a year later. Still wishing that was a thing. Closest thing we have to it right now is the ninja 1000 SX. And the new GSXS 1000 GT. Both really good options if that’s still what you’re looking for.
@@VR46YAMAHA The engine stock is very likely tuned right for the exhaust system. Yea, I mean you can have abit more midrange if you want, but at 200hp, why do you need more? I could understand, if someone is tuning their bike to have a linear power delivery through the rev range to have a nice smooth pull, but that doesn't necessarily mean upping power. Which 90% of people who tune their bikes do.
OC: RSP all day. The standard RR is just no comparison when it comes to both build and ride quality, and you surely won't get anywhere near the track capabilities of the RSP with a base RR. You can't just buy Moto GP engines like that.
OC: If I had to chose from either bike I'd take the normal cbr1000rr, I really liked the 2011 model. If I had to take a Honda, I'd rather take the cbr650r because it makes more sense. But the R7 is kinda stomping over the cbr650r in my head atm.
Both great looking bikes. I just wish Honda would put the exhaust back under the seat on these 1000cc bikes. I know it serves no purpose but it sure as hell looks the dogs bollox! (means the best for you Americans) ☕🐸🤦🏾♂️😂
Just like most dudes who buy Ford raptor never see a grain of dirt am sure most owners of fireblade never see a track......but if you have cash Honda will most certainly sell all of them
take these bikes to the fricken track dude..... reveiwing bikes that are designed 95% for the track and not taking them to the track is the same as reviewing a chocolate bar and not truly enjoying it through eating it
Titanium engine bits, the incredible electronics (they are better tuned on the sp), the absolute savage of a motor, and the looks. The SP is the way to go...if you have the money to. The standard cbr falls short if you can get a base s1krr for about the same money.
The CBR1000RR has been deemed as one of the more streetable 1000’s due to its light weight and ergonomics which aren’t as aggressive as most the other super sports. And let’s be honest, no one needs a 1000 on the street, nor will anyone like you and me ever come close to the capabilities of any liter bike. With BMW you also need to deal with maintenance costs. For someone stacking the miles on, the CBR1000RR is the objectively the best liter bike for the street…
@sleeper.simulant7327 very logical thinking, and I agree. But I've ridden that sp and it is incredible and feels special to ride, the cbr 1000rr is fine and that's about it. So it depends on the riding experience you want.
Dieser Vergleich ist sinnlos. Im Video sieht man, dass das Moped vom Auto überholt wird. Als Deutscher sage ich: die Technik in der RRR ist un einiges besser, was auch die Sicherheit erhöht die alte RR lässt sich jedoch besser steuern und lenken. Der letzte Gang ist auch länger übersetzt, so dass man auf der Autobahn auch über 370 km/h (230mph) fahren kann. Bei der RRR ist bei 340km/h (211mph) Schluss. Aber das sind Welten Unterschied mit euren 75mph. Da reicht doch auch ein Tretroller, oder nicht?
They are so different because they are two completely different bikes. The older generation is the SC77 and the new generation is the SC82. The new generation is a complete redesign of all components. The SC77 was offered in 2 SP models, SP-1 and SP-2. SP-1 like mine is the trackday variant and the SP-2 is a road homologated race bike. The new CBR1000RR-R is a different animal all together.
@@Jason.cbr1000rr Maybe because the 650r was designed to look like the old Fireblade, I dunno. It's really not a fair comparison of both bikes imo. On one hand the cbr1000rr in the video is the older fireblade, on the other hand the rrr is the SP model. SP models usually get all the goodies compared to the normal blades
Think I’ll just wait for the RRRR version
I think Imma get the cbr1000rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr model.
Nah get the cbr1000rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr fireblade sp version
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Y'all crazy. LMBO
@@dan3thegoat fire blade MAX
I personally loved the styling of the RR SP fireblade with the gold wheels and silver frame/swingarm over the current RR-R SP. A gorgeous machine and more capable than I could ever hope to be.
Think the 17-19 model is the best model Honda made
OC: If I had the cash and a track nearby, I’d go with the SP model over trying to build up the regular model. That being said, I don’t have that kind of cash and I’m not much into CBRs but if I were…
Love your videos bud always hella fun watching you
OC: with that $30k i would buy the RR and make it my own. choose what i want and how i want it.
I don’t understand why you’re comparing a old cbr non SP to a new cbr SP. i would’ve understood the 2019 SP but you went old basic to newest highest spec.
Or you could have the 2021 CBR 1000RR-R non SP. If you're not on the USA 😄
oc: SP for sure! It and the Multistrada V4S are my favorite bikes of 2021.
I'd build the RR, it's a more practice bike.
this video feels wrong, your comparing two different models. You have an older RR and a new SP. the 2017 RR had a SP model too. the new model is RRR and RRRSP! so your RR is the older model fireblade!
Ummmmm correct me if I’m wrong (as the US market might be different to here in the U.K.) but you are not comparing apples with apples. This year fireblade is a CBR1000RR-R. The R SP is the SP version of that. The fireblade you had to compare is last years hence the RR not RR-R.
The US market is different. The 2 models available are cbr 1000rr or cbr 1000 rr-r SP . In Us the 1000 rr-r (no SP) that you can buy in Europe isn't available.
OC. Not worth the extra money. Get the 2017+ CBR1000RR non-SP. The 1000cc super sport bike's prices are out of control.
Picked up my 2018 for 11,499 last summer! Sooooo.... That RSP is was actually 17k MORE! No thanks, not worth that when you could of bought TWO RR's.
How about dont get a honda period...they are slow af
@@2wheelsonly614 the bike is not slow. The rider is slow. This is not a 300.
@@Victic005 true lol...well its still down alot on hp compared to the others..i had one before my zx10 and its a big difference in power.
@@2wheelsonly614 not by that much. About 15hp. It's the lightest 1000 cc SS. For a bike to ride on the streets, it's pretty good. I'd take it over an R1.
I’m going to say this again. As an owner of the RR, it’s not worth it. The bike is brilliant, more comfortable, has more power than you could feasibly use. I ride it to work, weekend rides and track days. It’s a phenomenal all round bike that’s very comfortable for a sports bike. Slap a titanium akra exhaust on it, flash the ECU (which you can do yourself) and you’ve got yourself nearly a 200hp bike (191BHP at the wheel) for 10k less. More comfortable, awesome looking. Unless you have the money and don’t give a shit and just want a trophy bike (and let’s be real, if that was you, you wouldn’t be here) then get the cheaper bike and live your best life my guy.
This
RR SP OWNER here perfect balanced bike with all the electronics for the geeks ligtweight and more than enough power when flashed!
Like 80% here can even use the 200+ hp the RRR got and believe me its heavier than the sp and sp2.
@@bslugz 100% with you on that
2021 CBR 1000RRA owner. I'm happy I didn't buy the SP model
I want to own a bike that gives value when my son sells it.
OC: I'm buying a 600 and performance riding classes, and trailer, and basically unlimited track days for that $30k. Rider mod > bike mod.
Good job. Chase did a video year1/2 ago claiming he would do comparisons and n 600cc motorcycles after he did a 650 shootout. He apparently don’t care about newer riders bcuz he doesn’t comment on my requests of when he’ll release the video
@@cdubbrider3740 If you are a new rider and are also looking at anything 600cc and up, you're doing something wrong anyway.
A 600cc Supersport is the second last thing you should be looking for as a beginner.
650cc is recommended if your "beginner" mind is mature enough.
Anything higher powered is just dumb (for a beginner), because if you looked at any of the R7 videos in this channel you'd know that even that is pleeeenty for even experienced riders.
@@Daniel-dj7fh ur not 100% accurate. As I still consider myself a newer rider bcuz I have so much more 2 learn as a rider. I be had my license 2-3 years and have owned ninja 650 4 a year now. I think a 600 is an adequate learner bike 4 anyone who has common sense a a rider. Not every rider is a throttle head (contrary 2 popular belief). A beginner rider can do the same thing as a 600cc does.
@@cdubbrider3740 Of course a 600cc can ride the same as a 125cc, but most of the people who want to ride bikes want to ride fast or be cool. And therefore a big bike is not a good idea.
You said you have had a 650 for a year now, but you also have had 2 year pre experience which doesn't mean you have learned everything. But you are not a fresh beginner anymore.
Anyone who is responsible and has the right mind can even start on a 1000cc if they want. But not many have either traits.
@@Daniel-dj7fh yup. My point is that a foolish rider can get hurt on a 125cc if it’s not a 600 tho. So it’s technically not gonna save everyone 4rm riding dumb.
I wish Honda would re-design the 600 rr and then make a ‘RRR’ SP version of that.
It would also be really cool if they did a 250 RRR SP that revved to like 20k rpm and made 55-60hp
Your wish has been granted, the new 600RR is going to be revealed in August!
Umm guess what
Oh boy do i have something to tell you😅
I too had this choice. I bought a new old stock 2019 CBR1000RR-SP. Got the more comfy ride position of the RR, and the fancy electronic ohlins suspension, and titanium bits that make the SP special.
And I got it all for 15 grand brand new.
Does the standard RR have Ohlins?
@Mike Hunt the standard RR has Showa suspension, look it up. I know the retail price was too cheap for full Ohlins
I know it's like apples and oranges but how does that compare to the Hayabusa I have a 2005 I want something smaller for the garage is it more comfortable or the same
@@richardcerritelli9657definitely not as comfortable as a busa, the busa is a very large sport tourer where a fire blade is a straight sport bike.
Best choice tbh
The older model does come in an SP Version I have a 2017 I think that would have been a better comparison SP Vs SP
I agree. Or the standard vs the standard.
@@MikeB..69 Standard isn't available in the US (yet)
Coming from European rider, I have to note it's comparison of two completely different generations of the bike with a huge leap between them. In Europe and other non-US markets the double-R is discontinued and there is a "plain" non-SP triple-R available in stead of double-R, which would be more fair comparison. Double-R is still the good old road-oriented sportsbike, while triple-R is an all new race-bred sportsbike with the namesake being the only similarity, hardly comparable in my opinion.
That being said, I love all Fireblade content, old and new, so thanks for the vid :)
It’s because the SC77 does not meet the EU5 regulations and is not sold anymore. My wife has a 2017 with Akrapovic which is fantastic to ride and an awesome bike (we slapped braided brakelines in and some extras).
The new SC82 meets EU5 regulations
And it's not worth another 15000 euro. No justification in that.
You missed they biggest difference between them. The RR is the old model (first produced in 2017) which is still produced for the US. You don't get the new MY21 "base" model for some reason. It is labelled the CBR1000RR-R.
What you have essentially done is compare a first gen BMW S1000RR with an M1000RR.
Cbr1000rr sincr 2004
I recently went to a Honda dealership as I want to purchase the brand new CBR650R... I saw the RR and RR-R SP and damn, they're huge! The rear tire so sooo fat, I love the look of them, I can only imagine how crazy these machine are honestly!
The 650r has a wide rear tyre too
they have the exact same tire xD
The 650R has a 180 section, vs the 190’s on the 1000’s
OC: As much as I love the SP I think I would want to build a regular RR into the way I want WHICH I think can be as exciting at the end of it all. PLUS you never really see a fully built Honda CBR 1000 at bike meets which can also be a head turner. I know with my type of riding I’m on the bike every weekend and wouldn’t make it out to track days much. I’m a weekend rider and bike night/cruise kinda guy. To me turning a bike that is out-the-box “ok” into a head turner is equally satisfying as having a track ready, the Mark Marquez experience Honda RRR SP
I still have the 2017 SP 2 that i built (big budget), and the new RR-R SP.. 2 different feeling machines, love the SC77 chassis, looks and comfort. the new bike is for those times when it is about putting out your best performance..
CBR 1000 RR was released 2017 as stock version. They release an new "fireblade" about every 4 year. so you are comparing a 4 year old bike non "special edition version" to a 2021 special edition ,HRC edition.
That's why there are so many discrepancies your telling us about, and price diffrence.
R R is the best bike ticks all the sections and RRR is too aggressive for street use, more track focused. Hence , my choice would be RR standard ❤️
If the standard 1000rr had the RSP front fairing and headlights it'd be one of the best looking reasonably priced 1000's on the market in my opinion.
I like the way rr look, rrrsp way to techie for me
@@hilmiyahya3027 me too
So… we made this exact same video lol. The Fireblade was built specifically for WSBK racing, hence the winglets and 215HP.
The Blade’s handling is sublime mostly down to the frame, then suspension tbh. 99.9% of riders should get the RR, it’s a great bike with plenty of potential. But the Fireblade feels fantastic ripping off an apex and flickering the TC at a track (as I’ve shown 🙃)
Lol really? That's funny. Of course yall did. First we were right behind Jakes videos so now we've transitioned to you guys huh?
Is this a beef going on? 🤔
@@chaseontwowheels it happens - like some sort of content vortex haha
It’s almost like there is a limited amount of option out there for comparison in the 1000cc category…. Get over yourself
OC: can you do a video on the S1000RR vs M1000RR. Love your vids. Watching from London 🇬🇧
Not gonna lie . When I saw the CBR 1000RR
I laid my eyes on her like damm she is the best fcking machine I've ever see
. Ik there are plenty of bikes that are best of best in 1000cc segment but.
RR ue emotion for me . May be I'm future inshallah I'll buy it.
And as for the new model or CBR -SP
it's have its own looks and power and that is a killer machine both are best in there respective fields.
I have the 2018 CBR1000RR and I have no complaints. The bike is comfortable for a super sport motorcycle and I used it to commute and have fun, the only modifications it has are power commander V, Akropovic full exhaust system, K&N filter, body sliders, and double bubble wind shield. The RRR is awesome but it is out of my price range and I would never be able to use its full potential.
Exactly I just bought a 2021 cbr rr who is gonna run 212 mph this guy looks like he might but only to grab some crispy creme gtfoh he's talking about a bike but admits he is a mediocre rider at best
@@russellcheng8992 How much did you pay? I'm looking at 21 RRs brand new and I think I might be able to negotiate a bit.
@@chorseundgrd I truly hope you get to the dealership wouldn't budge at all they knew what they had and the demand is way higher than the supply I paid around 19k out the door i wanted the matte black one or i wouldve spent the extra 300 on the 2022 I've put about one thousand in upgrades and about to drop another one on ECU flashed and dyno tuned honestly it's a great bike but I hate the fact they put so many restrictions on it
I dont see 12k.....don't forget to give up one thing you still get credit for stock stuff....slap on ohlins and you should get credited for your showa, same with other stuff
And how many can ride a stock bike to its potential, especially in the city
Buy RR, get susp tuned and throw on a pipe and map or tune
I would get RR
2 different generations of blade, why didn't you test rr sp against the rr-r sp? That would of been a proper comparison, track day bike against track day bike.
Or didn't the u.s. get the sp of the older bike?
A fair comparison would have been the cbr1000rr sp vs the cbr1000rrr sp. Would have been more fair. The previous sp has full ohlins semi active suspension and brembos also.
i agree. This comparison was a bit confusing so everyone is trying to figure out the model year of the stock bike. 2017 or 2019 ?
OC: For my money I'm going with the RR, a trailer, 5 sets of tires and as many track days as I can get. The RR delivers the power in a far more approachable manner and it's output is closer to ideal IMO. In the years that I've been riding, it seems like anything too far over 150bhp makes me more concerned about how the electro nannies are going to react if I go into the next corner too hard for its liking or what the fuel cut will be like if I give it too many beans on corner exit. I'd rather ride hard on a machine that has its handling and traction engineered into it rather than programmed.
Well said!
This. I can push a 600cc to the max, 1000 is a different breed, needs a good track, and a fkin experienced rider. I'm not getting very much out of RSP, but I appreciate the tech and consider it to be the best 1000cc out there.
IMO the SP is really the answer to Italian's super bikes that are more powerful, may look more aggressive but less reliable. At the end of the day, I will only ride any of the big four from Japan and Honda is the no 1 for me.
@@georgiaguardian4696 Great minds think alike brother, I'm of the same attitude and a total Honda fanboy for the same reason. For me it's Honda and then Suzuki, but cause my old man likes Suzuki lol.
The comparison should have been between:
RR SP vs RR-R SP
The CBR 1000 RR-R SP is the first bike i am really in love with. However we cant afford a 1.5 million pesos here in the Philippines.
Support bro..
Fyi, MY2017 Honda CBR1000RR there's a SP version, but they split it into 2 SP versions. I think maybe you already know that, the SP1 and the SP2. The SP1, the front suspension is already use Ohlins semi active suspension and the front brake calipers are already use Brembo calipers. What about the SP2 ? Actually it's the same as the SP1 version, but in the SP2 the wheels are use from Marchesini forged wheels, which provides much lighter handling than the standard version and the SP1 version
Cbr1000rr-r sp is the most beautiful looking bike Honda has ever made. Might have to pick one up used in few years. 😍
It need more R's to convince me to buy the bike
Sp looks so much better
Wish they made the SP minus the wings and called it the RR
Like every other manufacturer does
Not totally different designs
I like the RR design better man idk
the Blacked out version of the RR looks great
I lol'd at the cheap ass atlas 3.0 helmets yall are wearing.
good review though
I'm kinda confused at why your base model over there in America Is different to our base model here in England. Our base looks identical to the SP, same bodywork with the wings built in, it still has the showa suspension and nissin brakes, compared to the ohlins and brembo parts of the SP. Our base has the titanium akropovic too. Over here, the bike hasn't sold very well, so you can get an SP registered in 2020, but brand new with zero miles, for the same price as a 2021 registered base model 👍🤠
Everything is great on the triple R. That's your comparison. I could've say that without riding the RSP. Didn't even talked about the brakes 😒🤦🏽♂️. 17 minutes to tell me the RSP is better... Anyone could've said that 🙄. Is like comparing the CBR 650F and the 1000RR. Anyone knows the RR is way better than the F. Duh 🙄🤦🏽♂️😒
The engines are not the same if the rr-r has a different bore and stroke with titanium rods and lighter pistons. That's a huge difference
O.C :- Honda used to make Std CBR 1000-RR SP
Where are those??👀👀
This video is literally the most stupid comparison video ever.
You compared the old model to the new model.
Of course they are different FFS - that was the point of replacing the SC77 with the SC82.
I have seldom seen so much misinformation presented in a single video 🤦♂️
OC: This isn't a fair comparison. The RR has two other "SP" models that you completely skipped. The SP1 and the SP2, both of which have similar features to the RR-R SP. These features include braking systems, suspension, weight, and even looks. Although I will say that the RR-R SP is the first bike that I have seen to completely stun most (if not all) non-Honda fans. So much so that even chaseontwowheels does not believe that the RSP should be a CBR :) No surprise here. Anyways, nice video though...
yes i pointed that out also. Comparing a stock 2017 vs 2021 HRC "SP" special edition is very unfair...
The rr and rr sp is not really that much different in terms of power the only difference is the suspension adjustment by hand or by electronics the brakes don’t work equally as good they just fade faster on the road there real no difference you only feel the difference on the track there only a 1kg weight difference between the 2 and it’s not unsprung or rotational mass.
My cb1000r has same motor. Just asking what is the difference besides price and programming for top end? Its still 3.3 to 60 and 120 in second gear. My r is naked. Still fast af. Top out hard at 168. Still dead and quick enough lol. It a 2022 with mono rear. Engine brake trac control abs and stable. At 13k. And looks sexy naked. Sounds sexy. And who needs go over 168?
Chase has put on some lbs. I was a subscriber back in 2014 and grabbed a sweatshirt I purchased a while back and looked up the channel and legit didn’t recognize him
This bike shares nothing with a moto gp bike when they mention sharing parts with gp bikes they are referring to world superbikes and Hondas special parts used in the top classes of racing. The cbr1000rrr shares nothing with an actual moto gp bike. A moto gp bike is nothing like a cbr1000.
Already made my decision getting the 1000rr save a ton$$ then go to work! dyno, cat delete, servo delete, some exhaust, u have more then ENOUGH TO DESTROY CANYONS MOUNTAINS COAST, keep the rubber on the road boys. Just got the CBR1k at 17989 out the door at ..ride on formally house of motorcycles San Diego! BOOM MATT BLACK METALLIC Yeee& Haaa! ..PS. as 4 weight? Its electronics & ad ons (which r quit impressive) but u need 2 b ON A TRACK so save that cash 💸 boys & go for a lot more rides get that trailer & haul u ass to the COAST OF CALI ..HEAVEN! 1 FOOT IN HEAVEN!
I consider this video totally unfair for comparing two different generations of CBR.
I own a 2019 CBR 1000 RR SP2 and has the exact same body like the 2021 CBR 1000 RR you present because Honda kept the same style between 2017-2021 for RR generation
Now you to compare the last generation of regular CBR 1000 RR (2017-2021) with the new generation of Fireblade (2021-present having new engine/design) it shows that probably you didn’t do enough research before or you are just unprofessional!
What about you to compare a 2019-2020 CBR 1000 RR SP2 with a 2021 Fireblade RRR? You'll be probably surprised that the differences between them are insignificant besides design(because let's be fair - design sells!!!! Especially for this idiot generations craving for attention on social media)!
Respectfully,
This video is a prime example of miss-information. To start with, the RR model is actually a left over 2019 "SC77"(the exact model in lineage of WHAT CBR it is) where as the 2021 Triple R-SP is the NEXT model year of CBR, known as an "SC82". This is because everywhere else in the world got a base model version OF the Triple R, where as America got last years left overs because they didnt sell well in America, and Honda didn't want to bring the base model Triple R to the States in fear of low sales. So YES the Triple R-SP is 100% deserving of the CBR name, as it is technically the REAL CBR that was intended to take over the CBR name. Also the CBR name is NOT the only bike name Honda uses to race, the OTHER name is "RC" as in RC30/RC45/RC51/RC213-VS - the REASON why they cant name any of their current race bikes they sell to the public under the RC name, is because they use the RC name exclusively for V style engines where as the CBR is exclusive to inline 4 engines. They both have inline 4 engines, but NO NO NO THE TRIPLE R HAS A BRAND FUCKING NEW ENGINE! THE SC82 ENGINE IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE SC77! Its literally the only reason why they can have all those new parts in their bike because it was redesigned to handle it.
As for the weight difference, the power to weight ratio in the Triple R-SP is MUCH better than the old SC77 model. For staters, a base SC77 will be LUCKY to make 175whp with a full system, filter, tune and stacks. Anyone who says any different is either on a very built engine or has a very untrustworthy dyno. In fact the low power was a problem Honda had in racing with the SC77, the chassis of the bike is very small and nimble, so if any more power was built into it, after a point it would be a bit unstable, lots of wheelies. The Triple R-SP on the other hand has a redesigned chassis to fix these problems and thats because it can easily hit well over 200whp with a very basic tune, full system, and filter, stacks are still being tested but its an easy 205-210whp bike, where as the base model sc77 would need a LOT of engine work and tuning to come close to it, anyone with Honda experience can tell you, HRC parts to build an engine, yeah thats gonna be a $30-$40,000 engine build not to mention the 3rd gear on that SC77 is historically weak, and the electronics love to create false neutrals with the quickshifter.
As for the suspension, I own a 2017 SP2 with the previous gen Semi-Active ohlins, they are easy to adjust and in the hands of a good suspension tech are GREAT when dialed in. HOWEVER Hondas menu is kind of annoying to navigate through and the Showa's are easier to see consistent results out of. The Showa will always remain consistent to how its set, which means the bike is predictable and easy to go faster on. On both Gen 2 and Gen 1 Semi-Actives, you really only see them working on the street, because on the track the servos do the work too slow and cant catch up with race pace. Manual Ohlins would have been MUCH better AND much more race focused, Semi-Actives are very soft and are very road focused, where as ironically the showa's really arent and are more race focused than the ohlins that cost twice as much. What Chaseontwowheels is talking about is because he is not used to riding a bike with tuned suspension, so when a bike does tuning for him it will be remarkably better for him than what he is used to. But if Mr Dave Moss tuned the Showas for him, he would love them both, and if he was track pushing the bike: the Showas might actually feel better.
By now if you read this you should know by now, the Triple R-SP has better electronics and display because it was intended to REPLACE the "RR" SC77 from last year, but America couldnt buy enough bikes from Honda in order for them to justify giving us the ACTUAL base model.
CO2W should 100% do what he said, and get a trailer and do some track weekends and do a bit more homework. He has a LOT of potential to really inform and teach riders, but only with proper training and learning can he do that. After about 3 weekends on track his content would drastically change for the better, and the knowledge dropped in the video would be much more accurate because he would have a backround that has been coached and tailored to understanding the bikes he is testing.
If I had 30k, I wouldnt buy any of those bikes, I would buy a used truck with a 6ft+ bed, a GYTR 2022 R6(the track only bike), a ninja 400(track built) and a track membership.
The basic CBR RR is the most dull looking sports bike out there. I bought a new 2021 BMW S1000RR m package and I am still very happy with it. The RRR has got some bad reviews too and has broken down on some group tests after it was launched.
Mmmmm I'll stay with my 250.... Look at them death machine 😄😄😄.... Nope...my nose 👃 so sensitive I can smell a skunk and then sneeze... Whiskey throttle pop a wheelie and straight into the back of a car.... No thank you
I hate everything about this comparison. There is an actual CBR 1000 RR SP version with Öhlins suspension and Acra Titanium Exhaust and Brembo brakes wich was so much better than the standard version... Please just do a little bit of research and dont push videos just because. I personally prefer well researched Videos that have a meaning and not some half assed Video, because of the weather, that leaves me with no new information and highly unsatisfied... Watched it whole, hoping you would at some point realise...
I guess the new one just more on power loops, ebu and touch start. But rr remains double double any day, mileage & sleeky machine.. less heat, better buying it abroad
It's not even the same bloody bike... The CBR1000RR of the current gen looks the same as the RR-R and has received many of the same upgrades, the bike in the video is an irrelevant comparison as it's old gen, doesn't have the new engine, brakes, suspension, frame, fairings, electronics, nothing. Nothing at all. It's like comparing a Panigale 1299 to a Panigale V4, it's not even a similar bike...
0:36 no shit sherlock, reasons mentioned above.
Such straight, unbent, arms with wrists taking the load when riding. I'm always reminding myself to relax, bend elbows, grip tank, and use my shoulders to steer. I guess I can do vids also without being able to ...
I can't finish vid.
OC: SP and track days for sure. I'm still waiting for my first bike to show up at my local dealers....it's an SP...a Yamaha MT-09 SP. I need to get a few years/4000+ miles under my belt before thinking of additional bikes.
The RRR is just a 1000cc tuned up to rev like a 600cc, not fit for road riding but you cant tell on track. Wait for the Vtec or whatever Honda does to catchup to the pack.
Why u gona spend 5k for electronic suspension unless u dont know how to set SAG on the bike. I stick with conventional shocks and forks ajusted properly and learn how feel the road conditions bumps,etc. Dont waste your money 5k for more gizmoz useless
There are no comparison between triple r and double r! The 1000rr-r is superior in any way
Kinda stupid on honda's part. Why should anyone get the fireblade when you can get a zx10r. They really should have made the cbr1000rr faster
I'd take a CL70 on a back road with no cars before I'd take either of these in that ridiculous traffic. How do you ride with all those morons in cars, pickup trucks, tractor trailers, etc?
I think it could be a good idea for Honda to have a cbr1000r “single R” that is even more relaxed ergonomically. And maybe tuned for more torque. Kinda like a sport tourer? I’ve also seen some concepts for a version that would be like an adventure sport bike. Kinda like the s1000xr
They do have a CB1000R that is basically what you're talking about, just has a bit of a retro styling, they also made a sporty looking variant up to 2017 but that was replaced by the retro look. The adventure touring option is also a thing, in the form of the NT1100 but whilst that's looking like it'll be a very similar chassis to the XR or the Tracer 9, it'll have the 1100cc africa twin engine which is frankly garbage. Typical of honda to chose the most boring and underpowered engine in their entire lineup to put in an otherwise interesting motorcycle...
@@AntaresSQ01 yeah I’m aware of the cb. It’s a cool bike but I’m looking for something with fairings. I’ve seen rendering of the sport tourer with the twin and the 1000 I4. Hopefully they make the right call once it’s official 🤷♂️
I agree. They need a replacement for the cbr1000f they had years ago. They could dress up the cb1000r like what kawasaki did with their z1000 into the ninja 1000.
Here to put my BIG AGREE in here. I have a CBR650R I basically love because it's a "softer" way to get the 600CC screamer thrills (and still more than enough power) in a way more comfortable package (I have full hardbags all around!). I'd love that for an upgrade, a CBR1000R that's still full fairings & is basically just the regular sportsbike but with slightly more relaxed ergos, tuned suspension and ECU, and low exhaust. The low exhaust especially helps in order to mount full bags
@@BigDonkMongo Here I am a year later. Still wishing that was a thing. Closest thing we have to it right now is the ninja 1000 SX. And the new GSXS 1000 GT. Both really good options if that’s still what you’re looking for.
Honda is back on top with the SP. Brentuning has unlocked it
I never understood why people need to tune their already 3x overpowered bikes
@@Daniel-dj7fh for improvement in mid range and throttle response especially when you’re running a full titanium system 🥴
@@VR46YAMAHA The engine stock is very likely tuned right for the exhaust system.
Yea, I mean you can have abit more midrange if you want, but at 200hp, why do you need more?
I could understand, if someone is tuning their bike to have a linear power delivery through the rev range to have a nice smooth pull, but that doesn't necessarily mean upping power. Which 90% of people who tune their bikes do.
@@Daniel-dj7fh why buy a bike and only get 70% of its power? And some ppl actually use ALL OF THE POWER.
@@2wheelsonly614 I'd love to see some of those "people" actually use all 100% of this bike on the track where it was designed to be.....
The back tire size looks different ( bigger ) on the sp or is it just me?
真羨慕美國的車價 在台灣光CBR1000RRR就要賣978000台幣=31949.30美元CBR1000RRRSP要賣168萬台幣=54882.07美元 所以你們美國人很幸福 賺的多 車價又便宜
OC: RSP all day. The standard RR is just no comparison when it comes to both build and ride quality, and you surely won't get anywhere near the track capabilities of the RSP with a base RR. You can't just buy Moto GP engines like that.
@13:50 - "wheelie control"??? Really??? There's an app for that???
Lotta newer sport bikes have it it’s nice lol
OC: If I had to chose from either bike I'd take the normal cbr1000rr, I really liked the 2011 model.
If I had to take a Honda, I'd rather take the cbr650r because it makes more sense. But the R7 is kinda stomping over the cbr650r in my head atm.
Both great looking bikes. I just wish Honda would put the exhaust back under the seat on these 1000cc bikes. I know it serves no purpose but it sure as hell looks the dogs bollox! (means the best for you Americans) ☕🐸🤦🏾♂️😂
Debaixo do banco esquenta muito o assento
Just like most dudes who buy Ford raptor never see a grain of dirt am sure most owners of fireblade never see a track......but if you have cash Honda will most certainly sell all of them
OC: honestly? I'm track prepping a 300-400 CC bike and having track days for a couple years.
take these bikes to the fricken track dude..... reveiwing bikes that are designed 95% for the track and not taking them to the track is the same as reviewing a chocolate bar and not truly enjoying it through eating it
Titanium engine bits, the incredible electronics (they are better tuned on the sp), the absolute savage of a motor, and the looks. The SP is the way to go...if you have the money to. The standard cbr falls short if you can get a base s1krr for about the same money.
The CBR1000RR has been deemed as one of the more streetable 1000’s due to its light weight and ergonomics which aren’t as aggressive as most the other super sports. And let’s be honest, no one needs a 1000 on the street, nor will anyone like you and me ever come close to the capabilities of any liter bike. With BMW you also need to deal with maintenance costs. For someone stacking the miles on, the CBR1000RR is the objectively the best liter bike for the street…
@sleeper.simulant7327 very logical thinking, and I agree. But I've ridden that sp and it is incredible and feels special to ride, the cbr 1000rr is fine and that's about it. So it depends on the riding experience you want.
18 minutes in and this presenter hasn’t said anything objectivise. A really boring long winded video stopped watching as a result .
Buy a 1000 or go buy an old GP bike. Don’t pay for a stupid markup. The mods don’t add up to the price.
You are always saying CBR. Isn’t the bike called „fireblade“ over there too?
this bikes are not same year bikes , you have new cbr1000rr r non-sp and cbr1000rr r sp both 2020 , you have old rr ...
i love both bikes...but the Fireblade is Honda's S1000RR...i want one of each lol
OC : chase... you gotta do a comparison between the R-SP and the M1000rr
In canada if you buy a new cbr1000 they only sell the rrr sp. We dont have the option to buy the standard version
RC30, RC45, RC51…maybe it should have been the next iteration in that series.
Dieser Vergleich ist sinnlos. Im Video sieht man, dass das Moped vom Auto überholt wird.
Als Deutscher sage ich: die Technik in der RRR ist un einiges besser, was auch die Sicherheit erhöht die alte RR lässt sich jedoch besser steuern und lenken. Der letzte Gang ist auch länger übersetzt, so dass man auf der Autobahn auch über 370 km/h (230mph) fahren kann. Bei der RRR ist bei 340km/h (211mph) Schluss.
Aber das sind Welten Unterschied mit euren 75mph.
Da reicht doch auch ein Tretroller, oder nicht?
You missed the missed the most important part of the comparison.. the straight line race 1/4 of a mile or similar. Too bad.
OC: definitely would grab the sp. I Have a cbr 600 right now and I'm looking into getting a 1000 soon. I just hate bills so I've been pushing it off
I went cbr to 1000 also. Check my channel. A 1000 is gonna change ur life.
Just bought a 20year old ‘blade, couldn’t be happier. 😊
They are so different because they are two completely different bikes. The older generation is the SC77 and the new generation is the SC82. The new generation is a complete redesign of all components. The SC77 was offered in 2 SP models, SP-1 and SP-2. SP-1 like mine is the trackday variant and the SP-2 is a road homologated race bike. The new CBR1000RR-R is a different animal all together.
Wow, all the bodywork on the SP makes the standard look like a 650r lol
How so??
@@Jason.cbr1000rr Maybe because the 650r was designed to look like the old Fireblade, I dunno. It's really not a fair comparison of both bikes imo. On one hand the cbr1000rr in the video is the older fireblade, on the other hand the rrr is the SP model. SP models usually get all the goodies compared to the normal blades
rr really look like a 650r😁
SP is a Type R version of Honda Motorbike
No cap sssp for life had 2007 1000rr back in the day had 600rr ofter sold it know want the sprrr
I feel like this video was biased towards track racing and not just everyday riding....
First thing you do to The Honda is rip the exhaust off it and put aftermarket on. the dash it's just a glorified phone on its side
30K? I'll always prefer to build mine.
With $30k I'd steal the RSP, then ship to the Isle of Man and run the streets till I die!
dont know where the weight comes from next sentence the frame is 2" thicker in some sections lol 😅
Am i the only one that hates akro exhausts? They sound worse than stock
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