I haven't watched the entire thing yet, but I think this proves to to be one of the best civ 5 deity guides ever made. In most communities that talk about civ 5 online, most people reference your videos anyway as guides to play deity. Basically what I'm saying is, this is an incredible guide thank you very much PC j law, it's great to have you back!!
Would fully agree with this. To get such good Civ 5 content in 2024 is massively appreciated. Your old guides were essential when I was getting back into Civ 5 and I’m sure this will further improve my early gameplay
This video in particular helped me beat Deity (after many tries!) I paid people to war on each other and kind of rushed science to gain new eras to make the earlier ages cheaper. But, this guide was what brought it all together. So cheers from USA
Man, i discovered your channel like a year ago, and loved your videos. And now you re back.... what a pleasure. Here s your like and sub, Keep up the great job, you re doing an amazing job.
New civ 5 content!? Also, thanks for your tips. I was always casual (auto workers, no civilian tile management). But since watching your videos im consistantly winning on emperor and getting really close on immortal. Great vids.
And nice idea! It's a tricky subject actually - the short answer is it's quite nuanced sometimes! Short answer: 1. Immortal and below: have a strong empire and scout your neighbours. Even if you get surprise declared on you should be able to produce and army to respond without preparation 2. Deity: conservative settling, proactive relationship management with your neighbours. Pay them to war your other neighbours if possible Sadly it's quite tricky, but conservative (no forward settles) settling and neighbour management is usually the trick!
@@PCJLaw I’ll also add that it’s good to avoid declarations of friendship. Went a whole game without even getting denounced. While you can’t get research agreements, it can still be enough to win science victory if you bulb great scientists
I remember looking at Civ5 vids a few years ago, finding your vids by chance more or less. Then suddenly they stopped and I thought too bad, this guy probably had the best civ vids. Then suddenly looking at a few again your new ones just popped up. Welcome back PCJL.
By far the best Civ 5 guides on the internet! Your understanding of the meta is impressively detailed and accurate and applicable to higher difficulties than any other guide. Your older videos took me from King difficulty to winning on Immortal most of the time. Great to see the early game guide refreshed.
I used to think Deity wasn’t possible and couldn’t get past King difficulty. Picked up Civ again for the first time in years and watched these videos (Most of them multiple times). Just won my first Deity game today! 🎉(Poland, Science Victory, Turn 311 Standard) Thank you PC J Law!
I would definitly love a full game playthrough with your thoughts idk how different the late would be but this made me wanna play the game again and more serious even as a casual player. Hopefully you continue this game
Super helpful! After watching this plus a few of your other recent-ish videos, I've gone from struggling a bit on Emperor to absolutely crushing the AI. Time to level up to Immortal! Thanks so much for the amazing content.
Nice start of the game. Didn't need archers to defend so good focus on growth. Could you make a short about the scientist bulb overflow cap? I remember there is a rule of thumb to never bulb if there are just a few turns left on a tech but forgot the details.
Yeah it's gone well! I felt there was a missed opportunity to rush Egypt, but with 2 great expansion locations and a bit of a unique luxury issue (and Egypt's UU) peace was pretty good regardless It's a nice idea for a Short, thanks! The Short ;) answer is if you bulb one scientist per turn it's never an issue, and try not to go through any tech that's only one turn left unless you have to!
happy to see you back at it, your older vids got me to take another look at civ 5 after initially being turned off by it from the vanilla launch and it became my 2nd fav 4x (tied with civ3) behind alpha centauri
Awesome content, it's so great to have you back! :-) BTW I remember an older video of you that you did in duo with someone else. It was very instructive but I can't find it. :-(
So glad you posted recently, I saw one of the Huns vids and have been watching all your old VODs. Are you planning on playing civ 7 when it comes out? It would be interesting to see a Civ 5 veteran land in a new game and try to figure out new strategies / optimisations. Love the content
Somehow I started playing Civ 5 again after years of dust collecting. I was never suuuper good. Usually played casually on Level 3. Yesterday I easily beat Level 4 with your guide. I'll take a stab at Level 5 next and judging at my last gameplays it should be totally doable. Appreciate your commitment to the game. Wonder if Civ 7 will cause less interest for Civ 5.... Thanks again!
Great video, I recently won my second Diety game and I did most of the things you mentioned. How do you deal with a Deity start when an aggressive Civ settles right next to you? When that happens i find it hard to make that good start.
Well done! That's a tricky situation that has two options I like to go for: 1. If you can get 3-4 cities and back yourself to keep them at war with their other neighbours, go the peaceful route 2. If the land looks flat with no sight obstacles for ranged units, two city Chariot Archer/Catapult or Comp Bow/Catapult rush The bonus of capturing an AI capital is capital lands are really good, so having a second set of "capital city lands" can make up for investing in war - just make sure not to build a 2nd settler (3rd city) yourself as it harms that war rush too much
I would love some Scenario guides. I really enjoy playing them, but haven't managed to complete most of them on Deity, which are almost all my missing Steam Achievements
This is great. I am often ok on Deity but Happiness is often my problem. I did not think to trade early on the gold for the luxury, so that the AI does not trade it away to someone else.
Just won my 1st real Deity game (without cheating the 1st one was using a tiny map with no city stats and 1 ai Venice). I played Babylon on a large island map. Follow some of what you said, expect I went religion (which gave me some happiness). Also it was a Domination victory
These ones! Enhanced User Interface: forums.civfanatics.com/threads/enhanced-user-interface.512263/ Enhanced User Interface [Install Instructions]: forums.civfanatics.com/resources/civ5-enhanced-user-interface.24303/ Air Unit Hotkeys (hotkeys for faster cycling through air units): www.reddit.com/r/nqmod/comments/42b3rw/air_unit_hot_keys_mod/ Multiplayer Reload (Hot Join) Fix (fixes common issues with loading MP games from save files): www.reddit.com/r/nqmod/comments/dzc16e/updated_reload_fix_mod_for_non_eui_users/
Amazing walkthrough! I've been juggling between immortal and deity (getting my ass handed to me on deity) and actually can't wait to try out the new things on here. Does anybody know what mods you're using for your UI? Few things I noticed would make my life so much easier such as the description of wonders and diplomacy when pointing at an AI (or the unit actions on the left hand side).
I'm curious as to why you suggest opening Pottery over AH when you generally don't plan on building anything from it: you might as well reveal horses faster. Sure, if you wanna rush a Shrine (like in this one) fine, otherwise it doesn't make much sense to me, and the default should be AH first.
I followed this channel like 3 years ago, even though I have yet to beat any deity game but really close to it. I usually get to the growth window and the NC kind of late. I think this will help a lot but I think I kind of screw up the mid game even though O manage to get ahead in tech. Do you have any tips for this?
Juste wanted to ask, if u have a insane city that you can rush to block the ai from setling near you, is it worth skipping the first builder ? And if you get declared early War or completly surrounded by ai city without any possibility to expand what should I do ?
Oracle, but you have to be quick about it. Sistine chapel, also not guaranteed. Brandenburg gate, if there aren't any strong warmonger civs in the game to contest it, it's free. Eiffel tower, research electricity and build oxford for radio. 100% free, and a very good wonder at that. Prora, requires a coastal city with strong production. Keep an eye out. Hubble space telescope, by this point you should be way ahead in tech. TL;DR early wonders are mostly not worth even considering, but late game you have options.
@@Frilleon I forgot to add my favourite method of building wonders: letting other civs build it then taking it by force. Think about it, if they're building wonders then they're probably not building a lot of units. Unless your neighbour builds the great wall, that is... In my last game on deity, my neighbour build the great wall, so I connected roads _through_ his territory and started rampaging on the other side of his empire. They key to making this work is to bribe them whenever necessary. Giving the AI 6 gpt as a gift can go a long way towards improving relations.
A huge misconception people have about military victory is that diplomacy doesn't matter. I'd argue it matters the most in a domination game, because it's so easy to make everyone denounce you and start giving you bad trades, or even outright declare war.
I am guessing with the Tradition vs Liberty also comes down to the type of Civ you are playing. If you play Persia or Egypt you could explain a lot of cities and still have enough happiness, while a civ like India is well not worth ever going Liberty.
If you normally go scout->scout->worker why go pottery first instead of animal husbandry? Animal husbandry could improve your tiles while pottery doesn't do anything for you?
Force of habit in case you realise you need a Granary or Shrine early on! It is true there's a chance you could get a 2 Food horse tile early that'll be helpful...
Why?! I always wonder. Why do they always choose Pottery as the first tech if you can have the first benefits from it only when you build Granary i.e. after 2 scouts, worker and maybe a settler. When you have a chance to get an additional production from some tile right after Animal husbandry is researched and horses are revealed. I mean... If you build worker right after 2 scouts, what will he do? OK, this time you have a wheat. But then you still need mining for forest chopping and animal husbandry and you still don't get benefits from pottery. This advise just confuses me every time - it makes no sense.
He's playing on quick game pace, those workers are coming out as quickly as those first three techs are being researched, and he's gonna save those forest chops for settler building which is going to happen at pop 3 or 4, so I'm not really seeing the issue. On standard or epic pace, building those workers early might present an issue, but you're gonna need them anyway for the chops. I also don't see the point of choosing a tech that has a chance of marginally improving your yields over the consistency of having arguably the most important early game building available for you to build asap. I am also of the opinion that the small chance of getting a good religion will always outweigh the need for extra production that might or might not be on high priority early game tiles. (and also might or might not be there at all). For grassland horses, there's an argument, but if it's plains horses when you've got any two or three food tiles, then pottery will do you better. But that's all just if you're trying to play optimally, people like Marbozir don't follow many of PCJ's rules but still win their deity games anyway.
I haven't watched the entire thing yet, but I think this proves to to be one of the best civ 5 deity guides ever made. In most communities that talk about civ 5 online, most people reference your videos anyway as guides to play deity. Basically what I'm saying is, this is an incredible guide thank you very much PC j law, it's great to have you back!!
This is such a kind comment thank you! Glad you enjoy the videos
Would fully agree with this. To get such good Civ 5 content in 2024 is massively appreciated. Your old guides were essential when I was getting back into Civ 5 and I’m sure this will further improve my early gameplay
This is my kind of content right here. Raise a glass to this man!
Glad you're enjoying it!
This video in particular helped me beat Deity (after many tries!) I paid people to war on each other and kind of rushed science to gain new eras to make the earlier ages cheaper.
But, this guide was what brought it all together. So cheers from USA
Man, i discovered your channel like a year ago, and loved your videos. And now you re back.... what a pleasure. Here s your like and sub, Keep up the great job, you re doing an amazing job.
Thank you! Glad you've been enjoying the content and thanks for the kind feedback
Love your channel. Civ 5 is the best and I always come back to playing it. Your guides are the best
New civ 5 content!? Also, thanks for your tips. I was always casual (auto workers, no civilian tile management). But since watching your videos im consistantly winning on emperor and getting really close on immortal. Great vids.
Also, if you want a video idea, I havent yet seen anyone cover how to manage the AI opponents and keep them from constantly warring you.
Great stuff, well done! Glad you're finding some use in the tips!
And nice idea! It's a tricky subject actually - the short answer is it's quite nuanced sometimes!
Short answer:
1. Immortal and below: have a strong empire and scout your neighbours. Even if you get surprise declared on you should be able to produce and army to respond without preparation
2. Deity: conservative settling, proactive relationship management with your neighbours. Pay them to war your other neighbours if possible
Sadly it's quite tricky, but conservative (no forward settles) settling and neighbour management is usually the trick!
@@PCJLaw I’ll also add that it’s good to avoid declarations of friendship. Went a whole game without even getting denounced. While you can’t get research agreements, it can still be enough to win science victory if you bulb great scientists
I remember looking at Civ5 vids a few years ago, finding your vids by chance more or less. Then suddenly they stopped and I thought too bad, this guy probably had the best civ vids. Then suddenly looking at a few again your new ones just popped up. Welcome back PCJL.
Haha thanks! Yes there was an awkward hiatus for a while, but I'm back now!
By far the best Civ 5 guides on the internet! Your understanding of the meta is impressively detailed and accurate and applicable to higher difficulties than any other guide. Your older videos took me from King difficulty to winning on Immortal most of the time. Great to see the early game guide refreshed.
Wow, completely different play style for Deity, I have been playing this game for a decade and still learned new things in this video. Thank you!!
I used to think Deity wasn’t possible and couldn’t get past King difficulty.
Picked up Civ again for the first time in years and watched these videos (Most of them multiple times). Just won my first Deity game today! 🎉(Poland, Science Victory, Turn 311 Standard)
Thank you PC J Law!
I would definitly love a full game playthrough with your thoughts idk how different the late would be but this made me wanna play the game again and more serious even as a casual player. Hopefully you continue this game
bro i was able to beat deity after i watch this specific video, thankyou so much you're awesome bro
Yayyy!!! This guy is back I have been waiting for this guy to start playing again!
You’re the best! Glad to see you back at it with quality content
Super helpful! After watching this plus a few of your other recent-ish videos, I've gone from struggling a bit on Emperor to absolutely crushing the AI. Time to level up to Immortal! Thanks so much for the amazing content.
why do you have so few subscribers and views? This is the best civ 5 tutorial I've ever seen
this was a great watch, cheers, liked subbed and commenting for the algorithm
Nice start of the game. Didn't need archers to defend so good focus on growth.
Could you make a short about the scientist bulb overflow cap? I remember there is a rule of thumb to never bulb if there are just a few turns left on a tech but forgot the details.
Yeah it's gone well! I felt there was a missed opportunity to rush Egypt, but with 2 great expansion locations and a bit of a unique luxury issue (and Egypt's UU) peace was pretty good regardless
It's a nice idea for a Short, thanks! The Short ;) answer is if you bulb one scientist per turn it's never an issue, and try not to go through any tech that's only one turn left unless you have to!
happy to see you back at it, your older vids got me to take another look at civ 5 after initially being turned off by it from the vanilla launch and it became my 2nd fav 4x (tied with civ3) behind alpha centauri
Glad you've enjoyed the videos! Civ 5 was practically my first introduction to 4x games of any kind!
cool to see someone else still plays this game, im gonna hit 2000 hours in it soon.
Awesome content, it's so great to have you back! :-)
BTW I remember an older video of you that you did in duo with someone else. It was very instructive but I can't find it. :-(
So glad you posted recently, I saw one of the Huns vids and have been watching all your old VODs. Are you planning on playing civ 7 when it comes out? It would be interesting to see a Civ 5 veteran land in a new game and try to figure out new strategies / optimisations. Love the content
Somehow I started playing Civ 5 again after years of dust collecting. I was never suuuper good. Usually played casually on Level 3. Yesterday I easily beat Level 4 with your guide. I'll take a stab at Level 5 next and judging at my last gameplays it should be totally doable. Appreciate your commitment to the game. Wonder if Civ 7 will cause less interest for Civ 5.... Thanks again!
Great video, I recently won my second Diety game and I did most of the things you mentioned.
How do you deal with a Deity start when an aggressive Civ settles right next to you? When that happens i find it hard to make that good start.
Well done!
That's a tricky situation that has two options I like to go for:
1. If you can get 3-4 cities and back yourself to keep them at war with their other neighbours, go the peaceful route
2. If the land looks flat with no sight obstacles for ranged units, two city Chariot Archer/Catapult or Comp Bow/Catapult rush
The bonus of capturing an AI capital is capital lands are really good, so having a second set of "capital city lands" can make up for investing in war - just make sure not to build a 2nd settler (3rd city) yourself as it harms that war rush too much
This is actually such an awesome guide, I was struggling to advance against deity AI 😊
Best Civ 5 Tutorial!
Love your content! ❤
love that, thank you!
Glad you like it!
I would love some Scenario guides. I really enjoy playing them, but haven't managed to complete most of them on Deity, which are almost all my missing Steam Achievements
This is great. I am often ok on Deity but Happiness is often my problem. I did not think to trade early on the gold for the luxury, so that the AI does not trade it away to someone else.
Hey PC J Law, great guide. Why aren’t you working the wonder in chichen itza? You would get the food to support it there.
Can’t wait for the one on the growth period mid game
I like how your start played out. Hope you finish this game. Also what happened to your previous atilla game?
Thanks for the video!
Appreciate the guide!
Just won my 1st real Deity game (without cheating the 1st one was using a tiny map with no city stats and 1 ai Venice). I played Babylon on a large island map. Follow some of what you said, expect I went religion (which gave me some happiness). Also it was a Domination victory
what mods and addons do you use?
These ones!
Enhanced User Interface: forums.civfanatics.com/threads/enhanced-user-interface.512263/
Enhanced User Interface [Install Instructions]: forums.civfanatics.com/resources/civ5-enhanced-user-interface.24303/
Air Unit Hotkeys (hotkeys for faster cycling through air units): www.reddit.com/r/nqmod/comments/42b3rw/air_unit_hot_keys_mod/
Multiplayer Reload (Hot Join) Fix (fixes common issues with loading MP games from save files): www.reddit.com/r/nqmod/comments/dzc16e/updated_reload_fix_mod_for_non_eui_users/
Do you play Legendary Start? Is that a setting you normally have on or not?
Amazing walkthrough! I've been juggling between immortal and deity (getting my ass handed to me on deity) and actually can't wait to try out the new things on here.
Does anybody know what mods you're using for your UI? Few things I noticed would make my life so much easier such as the description of wonders and diplomacy when pointing at an AI (or the unit actions on the left hand side).
would love to see a video that ranks civs based on deity singleplayer if that's something you'd want to make
Well done - especially with the timestamps
I'm curious as to why you suggest opening Pottery over AH when you generally don't plan on building anything from it: you might as well reveal horses faster. Sure, if you wanna rush a Shrine (like in this one) fine, otherwise it doesn't make much sense to me, and the default should be AH first.
Tanks for the awesome content. Whats that UI ure using for diplomacy?
Great job!
Thanks P.C J Law
Good gameplay.
Im kinda newbie here, what mods do you use for detailed inforamtions?
Hello.
What interface mods do you use ? How do you see the ressources each Ai has on the right border of your screen for example ?
Thank you a lot
Will you finish that Huns game?
Up next - needs to be edited down as the final part got a bit too long!
Hoping for that too. ❤
I followed this channel like 3 years ago, even though I have yet to beat any deity game but really close to it. I usually get to the growth window and the NC kind of late. I think this will help a lot but I think I kind of screw up the mid game even though O manage to get ahead in tech. Do you have any tips for this?
Very fun to watch game
Juste wanted to ask, if u have a insane city that you can rush to block the ai from setling near you, is it worth skipping the first builder ? And if you get declared early War or completly surrounded by ai city without any possibility to expand what should I do ?
Also do you have a list of generally buildable great wonders on deity Thank you 🙏
Oracle, but you have to be quick about it.
Sistine chapel, also not guaranteed.
Brandenburg gate, if there aren't any strong warmonger civs in the game to contest it, it's free.
Eiffel tower, research electricity and build oxford for radio. 100% free, and a very good wonder at that.
Prora, requires a coastal city with strong production. Keep an eye out.
Hubble space telescope, by this point you should be way ahead in tech.
TL;DR early wonders are mostly not worth even considering, but late game you have options.
@ thanks very much
@@Frilleon 👍🏻
@@Frilleon I forgot to add my favourite method of building wonders: letting other civs build it then taking it by force.
Think about it, if they're building wonders then they're probably not building a lot of units. Unless your neighbour builds the great wall, that is... In my last game on deity, my neighbour build the great wall, so I connected roads _through_ his territory and started rampaging on the other side of his empire. They key to making this work is to bribe them whenever necessary. Giving the AI 6 gpt as a gift can go a long way towards improving relations.
A huge misconception people have about military victory is that diplomacy doesn't matter. I'd argue it matters the most in a domination game, because it's so easy to make everyone denounce you and start giving you bad trades, or even outright declare war.
Moin, can i find a list of your mods. (for example the colered used tiles of a city)
If you settled closer to Egypt you had the opportunity to contest both whale slots
Which workshop mods di you use for your ui
what ui mods are you using?
How did that barbarian boat spawn there with no camp adjacent must be able to tread ice?
@@Zak6959 The boat probably spawned from the camp that was in the top land tile before the camp was removed?
Yeah it spawned from the barb camp on the land. Then the barb camp got cleared.
Poor barbarian galley lol. Iced in forever
Why didn't you settle Tikal one hex south, wouldn't an observatory be worth it?
I am guessing with the Tradition vs Liberty also comes down to the type of Civ you are playing. If you play Persia or Egypt you could explain a lot of cities and still have enough happiness, while a civ like India is well not worth ever going Liberty.
do you play vox populi?
No way you didn’t finish this game right after the vids cmon show us pleeease 😂
I promise you the rest of this game is coming ;)
@@PCJLaw yaaaay so happy you’re back man, I luv Civ V and you’re the deity of this religion
@@Baptmetrailler I see what you did there
what is that UI? How can I get it?))
Comment for algorithm
how do you determine how many workers you need?
I think he said it in this video, don't remember where exactly, but his rule is 1.5x the number of cities you have, so in this case 1.5x4= 6 workers
For Tradition 1,33 per city and for Liberty 1 worker per city.
If you normally go scout->scout->worker why go pottery first instead of animal husbandry? Animal husbandry could improve your tiles while pottery doesn't do anything for you?
Force of habit in case you realise you need a Granary or Shrine early on!
It is true there's a chance you could get a 2 Food horse tile early that'll be helpful...
Why not sell your embassy for gpt?
Why?! I always wonder. Why do they always choose Pottery as the first tech if you can have the first benefits from it only when you build Granary i.e. after 2 scouts, worker and maybe a settler. When you have a chance to get an additional production from some tile right after Animal husbandry is researched and horses are revealed. I mean... If you build worker right after 2 scouts, what will he do? OK, this time you have a wheat. But then you still need mining for forest chopping and animal husbandry and you still don't get benefits from pottery. This advise just confuses me every time - it makes no sense.
He's playing on quick game pace, those workers are coming out as quickly as those first three techs are being researched, and he's gonna save those forest chops for settler building which is going to happen at pop 3 or 4, so I'm not really seeing the issue. On standard or epic pace, building those workers early might present an issue, but you're gonna need them anyway for the chops. I also don't see the point of choosing a tech that has a chance of marginally improving your yields over the consistency of having arguably the most important early game building available for you to build asap. I am also of the opinion that the small chance of getting a good religion will always outweigh the need for extra production that might or might not be on high priority early game tiles. (and also might or might not be there at all). For grassland horses, there's an argument, but if it's plains horses when you've got any two or three food tiles, then pottery will do you better. But that's all just if you're trying to play optimally, people like Marbozir don't follow many of PCJ's rules but still win their deity games anyway.
Only the Lord Jesus Christ can save us
Uh kid, get on civ
Great guide PC, but how do you justify a granary BEFORE settlers in the Capital? they won't help, or do they?
yeah he is having a lot of choices which are debatable but with the granary you get a bit more production for your settlers
Best Civ 5 Tutorial!