How a Dumb Drummer like Myself PASSED College Level Music Theory

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  • @akshaybodla163
    @akshaybodla163 3 роки тому +946

    Bro I’m a computer engineer what am I doing here

    • @ChristopherCricketWallace
      @ChristopherCricketWallace 3 роки тому +18

      we can dream, ma' dude!

    • @jeromejames1931
      @jeromejames1931 3 роки тому +14

      Same, im a chemical engineer. What am I even doing here?

    • @Cvarier-channel
      @Cvarier-channel 3 роки тому +28

      Bro, I'm a software engineer and wish I could just be a full time musician lol

    • @hunghoangmusic
      @hunghoangmusic 3 роки тому +19

      I used to be a thermal engineer, I quitted it. Now I'm attending a music school

    • @Cvarier-channel
      @Cvarier-channel 3 роки тому +5

      @@hunghoangmusic How do you find it? Do you think it's better to stay in school and pursue music after?

  • @DG-mi7yf
    @DG-mi7yf 3 роки тому +422

    I feel like you care about my well being.

  • @fakename5384
    @fakename5384 3 роки тому +209

    That old experienced guy on Facebook was probably Buddy Rich

  • @flipout800
    @flipout800 3 роки тому +122

    Never thought I’d learn music theory from a drummer

  • @abbott5580
    @abbott5580 3 роки тому +248

    Hell yes dude this is like a cheat sheet for what to drill if you want to be "good enough" at piano. Thanks man.

  • @Leith_x
    @Leith_x 3 роки тому +74

    Roughly a victor Wooten quote “you should learn music theory well enough to not use it at all”

  • @owenorr532
    @owenorr532 3 роки тому +46

    May 28, 2020: celebrating 800 subs
    October 16, 2020: reaching 100k subs

  • @vaticpillars
    @vaticpillars 4 роки тому +62

    I (a drummer) too, initially failed music theory and I played piano too. Bb 7 augmented ninth, yay…

    • @chrilborn4138
      @chrilborn4138 3 роки тому +2

      I did well in music theory (in high school) but never applied it after and can't read for shit anymore (10 years later)

  • @alexandrerodrigues9892
    @alexandrerodrigues9892 3 роки тому +56

    dude...that video felt just 'right for me!'!

  • @joewhittle801
    @joewhittle801 3 роки тому +20

    I had to learn from scratch to college entrance-level music theory in 10 weeks (my school didn’t have a music program). All the things you mentioned were what I learned and I’ll add that I learned the I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii as well. I didn’t worry about actual note pitches, I learned relative pitch using the numbers and the root note of the key, then applied the correct numbers to recall the chord quality or recreate the scales on my test. I also learned the sound of the different scales and chord tones. Learning by the numbers helped me understand chord changes when listening to songs. It’s often handy when playing with a fill-in bass player, because you can call changes to them to save the guitarist/singer from turning around and helping them jam something on stage; it helps in rehearsals, etc, it definitely helps me pitch any background harmony note I need to sing as well.
    I love your content sir, you’re an inspiration!

  • @georgehiggins1320
    @georgehiggins1320 3 роки тому +20

    Drummers do have a huge advantage when it comes to rhythmic theory though, ngl 😂

    • @5ped0fs0und5
      @5ped0fs0und5 3 роки тому +3

      Bro, I’ve been playing drums for 2 and a half years and I don’t even know what a dotted quarter note is

    • @georgehiggins1320
      @georgehiggins1320 3 роки тому +2

      5ped 0f s0und Well Some drummers... a lot of the times they're more likely to study rhythmic theory more in depth than other instrumentalists. I've played piano on and off since about ten years ago and I definitely understand rhythm more from hearing it and feeling it than sightreading it straight off a page.

  • @jackorourke1684
    @jackorourke1684 3 роки тому +18

    I had no theory knowledge going into uni but In my theory class's, we had those tiny midi keyboards like yours and the lecturer encorged us to take one out whilst we were learning, you can plug it into your laptop if you want but just being there to visualise all the concepts really helped. If you were a guitarist you could take your guitar with you too. Honestly from a drummer that had very little knowledge in music theory that class single-handedly brought me to a point where I could understand modes and how they're used.
    Highly recommend buying a small midi keyboard just to plonk away while learning music theory its the most useful tool to have!

  • @manuelalfonzoml
    @manuelalfonzoml 3 роки тому +32

    My boi, you are gonna be huge. Love your content.

  • @diane1246
    @diane1246 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much for your super cool explanation!

  • @braepil
    @braepil 3 роки тому +8

    Hey man, I've been trying to learn some music theory for my own use and this was super helpful. Really dig your channel!

  • @djwiggles2835
    @djwiggles2835 2 роки тому +1

    I’m not even a drummer. I’m a senior in high school who plays guitar and piano but can barely read music. This advice is helpful for me who really wants to succeed in theory classes in college

  • @evanclay8230
    @evanclay8230 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you soooo much for making this. I’ve been struggling theory for yearrrrrs. This was so helpful 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @Hydrosama223
    @Hydrosama223 3 роки тому +4

    Two years of college and theory is still rough, so I appreciate this.

  • @FunkyDrumm3r
    @FunkyDrumm3r 3 роки тому

    You earned my subscription. Amazing chops and good humor keep it up!!

  • @loudrumsforyou
    @loudrumsforyou 3 роки тому +1

    i love your style of content, and i feel like im learning something valuable in all of your lessons, consider me subscribed

  • @leonardoguida.
    @leonardoguida. 3 роки тому

    Need more of these🙌

  • @savado
    @savado 3 роки тому

    Great video. I started music school (production and engineering) with a piano background and now I see why some of my fellow students were having a hard time in theory classes; missing the piano!

  • @vincentsantarelli6915
    @vincentsantarelli6915 3 роки тому +1

    thanks for that,,asked that question to blank stares many times !.That helps alot.Just that cycle of 4ths sounds great.Opens your ears.Thx again

  • @jeremygillihan
    @jeremygillihan 3 роки тому

    Thank you for your videos! It's been very helpful to me even though I'm a guitarist.

  • @JasonCallaway0
    @JasonCallaway0 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the advice! This was helpful

  • @laurinfs8916
    @laurinfs8916 3 роки тому

    I somehow made it to the 4th and last year so this is pretty helpful for the final exam... Ur a true Legend!

  • @khemoceanfunkmotion403
    @khemoceanfunkmotion403 2 роки тому

    Thanks! Truly helped me out alot.

  • @Ege-gn5pm
    @Ege-gn5pm 3 роки тому +1

    Very useful video man ✌️ keep cool

  • @Mdjagg
    @Mdjagg 3 роки тому +1

    Great advice. Thanks.

  • @eithelmora6033
    @eithelmora6033 3 роки тому +1

    THAAAAANK YOUUUUUU! Man this is the first time I encountered a normal approach to music theory

  • @rooftop.voter542
    @rooftop.voter542 3 роки тому +1

    This is a huge help to drummers that don’t have knowledge of music theory. This plus a good ear will make you a very successful drummer IMO

  • @zackedrums7224
    @zackedrums7224 3 роки тому +3

    Broooo, in my middle school we just stayed in the drum room screwing around... the drum teachers were teaching at the high school

  • @gabriellopes195
    @gabriellopes195 Рік тому +2

    Being a drummer with absolute 0 knowledge of music theory, I was also afraid of music theory in college. First class, I literally had no Idea what notes were in the sheet. I had to ask the colleague behind me (god bless him). Came home, and started studying. Got a piano, and studied more. Cut to the end of the first semester, I was helping some friends (that played melodic and harmonic instruments) before the harmony exam. After some time, I realized that 90% of people don't actually know more than basic music theory, they know how to read those notes fast on their instrument. Also, drum sheet music is easy, it's more to memorize patterns and where conventions fall. Don't be scared of it!

  • @evilexnumber3
    @evilexnumber3 3 роки тому +9

    Basically to succeed learn another instrument, sick

    • @edoardoteani3681
      @edoardoteani3681 3 роки тому +1

      A bit hard to practic chords in a drumset, dont you think?

  • @jtubef8620
    @jtubef8620 3 роки тому

    I second this advice... Even as someone who started studying music in 3rd grade. It makes things INFINITELY more simple.

  • @BobSchoepenjr
    @BobSchoepenjr 3 роки тому +2

    That was very helpful!

  • @fatblunt5471
    @fatblunt5471 3 роки тому +3

    "Dumb drummer"
    Damn I fit the bill too perfectly :(

  • @egg4ever
    @egg4ever 3 роки тому

    This kind of people found their purpose.. seriously.. I wish you all the best in life

  • @lordhotdawg9902
    @lordhotdawg9902 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks so much zack

  • @smllzr2
    @smllzr2 3 роки тому +3

    This is why I switched and majored in philosophy.

  • @user-fi4yd2kf6g
    @user-fi4yd2kf6g 2 роки тому

    Yes! Piano is the king of all the instruments!
    Saying this (as a pianist) I always wanted to be a drummer lol

  • @kayakchrispy
    @kayakchrispy 3 роки тому

    Brilliance

  • @jordanloomis4294
    @jordanloomis4294 3 роки тому +2

    bro you seem like the nicest guy ever

  • @hikeriko5563
    @hikeriko5563 3 роки тому

    this made me subscribe

  • @ericwallin8786
    @ericwallin8786 3 роки тому +2

    Stay percussive, and use a bell kit!

  • @yarpyarp85
    @yarpyarp85 3 роки тому +1

    dude, awesome

  • @kingmusic3617
    @kingmusic3617 2 роки тому

    Yeah I remember learning about music theory

  • @lemniscatefortunecanfinall2707
    @lemniscatefortunecanfinall2707 2 роки тому

    Gainz:
    Music
    Mindset/Philosophy
    Memes

  • @christophersimpson4968
    @christophersimpson4968 2 роки тому

    Good job my brother bringing a full circle for drummers

  • @KriegdenSeekrabben
    @KriegdenSeekrabben 3 роки тому +2

    Hey Zack, maybe a little off topic but what E-Piano VST are you using in the 7th chord demonstration? Sounds great :)

  • @erchearthelena
    @erchearthelena 3 роки тому

    this vid made me sub

  • @amonpfaudler1043
    @amonpfaudler1043 3 роки тому +4

    I’m not a drummer but good to know

  • @pacoruizserrano
    @pacoruizserrano 3 роки тому

    Great!

  • @5hyguy42
    @5hyguy42 3 роки тому +1

    Well thank you

  • @luifer.00
    @luifer.00 3 роки тому

    wow, thanks for this

  • @mykolaliebiediev7512
    @mykolaliebiediev7512 3 роки тому

    Could you make a video explaining the circle of fifths? I've seen a few explanations, but I still get confused. You seem like you have a good way of explaining things.

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 3 роки тому +1

      Don’t trust this, that is actually nonsense. The circle of fifths just relies on enharmonic displacement. So basically you’re saying:
      If you stack 12 fifths upon each other you arrive at an augmented seventh six octaves higher. So if we start from C, we get a B#.
      Now we just argue that B# is more or less the same as C (on the piano anyway).
      So if you do that you get this circle of the 12 chromatic notes where you can reach any note from anywhere by just going fifths up and down. This is relevant insofar that the relation of tonic, subdominant (fifth down) and dominant (fifth up) is considered the strongest, so basically you’re just ordering the 12 chromatic notes in such a relationship.

    • @mykolaliebiediev7512
      @mykolaliebiediev7512 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheVoitel This is fantastic, I didn't understand a single word! Can you make a video explaining this?

  • @marcelovidal9246
    @marcelovidal9246 2 роки тому

    I SUPPORT THIS CHANNEL!

  • @iwasdozer
    @iwasdozer 3 роки тому

    I played bass in orchestra throughout my public schooling and my teacher didn’t really talk to us about any music theory until junior year

  • @briandegoede4483
    @briandegoede4483 3 роки тому

    I;,=m growing up. thanks for the awsome videos

  • @anthonypassante-contaldi
    @anthonypassante-contaldi 3 роки тому

    As a drummer learning how to play the piano saved my life. It not only helped with theory but it also helped me get more gigs. When you have more irons in the fire it will help make your life a lot easier.

    • @aidanschram9652
      @aidanschram9652 3 роки тому

      Did you learn on your own or take lessons? Im a drummer and I have been learning to play some of my favorite songs on piano but I don't practice consistently and I don't really know what to practice besides songs

    • @TaveZgg
      @TaveZgg 3 роки тому

      @@aidanschram9652 try scales, chords, chord theory, arpeggios, and other things like that, it's what pianists like me do to practice and warmup

  • @metalfreaque
    @metalfreaque 3 роки тому

    I grew the hell up to like this video 💪

  • @TheAlex7863
    @TheAlex7863 3 роки тому

    hey mate, great video! i'm a high school junior right now and i realllllly want to go to uni for music but like i dont know what kind of stuff comes up in theory classes and that. what does the course involve and how good do you have to be to get in? i'm at a grade 8 level and im taking exams right now but i dont know how much better i need to be?

    • @steelstrings4998
      @steelstrings4998 3 роки тому

      Depends on the music school you want to go to.

  • @austinlincoln3414
    @austinlincoln3414 3 роки тому

    Your high school drum class sounds so fun lol

  • @voriskinlaw9775
    @voriskinlaw9775 3 роки тому

    The Circle of 4ths Is Just The Circle of 5ths; Counter Clockwise In Reverse;Good Job Dude

  • @dinospumoni5611
    @dinospumoni5611 3 роки тому +1

    Music theory is more or less the psychological study of how stuff sounds to humans. It's not necessary for making music, but it's still very useful as it's the theoretical framework that explains what makes stuff sound a certain way and how to make it sound another certain way. It's a lot more in-depth and broad than I think most people think. It's descriptive, not prescriptive. Software engineers don't _need_ to understand theoretical computer science but it sure as hell helps them understand what they're doing and why it works how it does.

  • @129jaystreet
    @129jaystreet 4 роки тому +2

    Q guapo!

  • @yapoilian8729
    @yapoilian8729 3 роки тому +1

    I learn music theory bfr I got into drums so it's fine for me

  • @emmanuelrogercosta9671
    @emmanuelrogercosta9671 3 роки тому

    does what you say about the piano works for the guitar as well? Because while playing it I've been using it for learning theory and vocals but the piano is usually recommended for both those things. A piano is probably better to memorize the scales, I totally understand the purpose and I definitely need to give this a shot, Garageband's virtual piano just doesn't feel right for that, I already tried :D

  • @fafuchofafelio4651
    @fafuchofafelio4651 3 роки тому

    Thaaanks a lot maaaaan thanks

  • @DaveonDrums
    @DaveonDrums 3 роки тому

    This guy is a genius

  • @g0pbl0p
    @g0pbl0p 3 роки тому

    i know music theory bc of bass and piano, mainly jazz where bass helps bc of walking bass but i do play drums lol

  • @mortalgekko3335
    @mortalgekko3335 2 роки тому

    I really need to learn at least some music theory lmao

  • @MapleFried
    @MapleFried 3 роки тому

    Holy crap! This is an indispensable tool for doo-doo brain drummers like myself.

  • @nyajvlogs
    @nyajvlogs 2 роки тому

    Thank you…Thank You….Thank You!!!!

  • @tzodearf2596
    @tzodearf2596 3 місяці тому

    That aug7 is a strange beast. What were the notes?

  • @matthewbell745
    @matthewbell745 3 роки тому

    Just wondering, which music software do you use? I have the same keyboard, and it comes with MPC Essentials built in. And I can't navigate it at all. Maybe I'm just a dumb drummer, but I want to make other music too.
    So which d'you use? I'm just curious as to whether I need to 'grow up' and learn MPC, or maybe there's a better alternative(?)
    Thank you.
    M

  • @ClaytonD719
    @ClaytonD719 3 роки тому

    I can tell you use Filmora from 0:10. No hate It’s just cool to see someone else using it 😄

  • @keathmueller7826
    @keathmueller7826 3 роки тому

    I feel your pain.

  • @DowntownDrumming
    @DowntownDrumming 3 роки тому +14

    Music theory=scary

  • @tomasviane3844
    @tomasviane3844 3 роки тому

    Wow, my first piano lesson 😇

  • @baileymclean972
    @baileymclean972 3 роки тому +2

    What synth sound are you using in garage band for this??

    • @ibby_h5574
      @ibby_h5574 3 роки тому

      It's not a synth but it's a Rhodes piano sound

  • @magicalmelon5673
    @magicalmelon5673 3 роки тому +1

    I play the drums as my main instrument and have been playing for nearly 5 years and guitar as my secondary instrument and I only started the guitar 2 months ago. Would I be able to pass year 11 gcse music theory through just learning the guitar and not learning piano chords ( I have a piano and have tried it but I don’t enjoy playing it)

    • @gktelan
      @gktelan 3 роки тому +1

      for sure dude, just memorise the notes on the fret board up to the 12th fret. and also know how to play major and minor scales too lol

    • @THECAPTAINCAKEZ
      @THECAPTAINCAKEZ 3 роки тому +1

      as a drummer in australia I passed our GCSE equivalent without playing piano or guitar. However, as I'm now playing the piano for uni I'd argue it's superior to guitar for learning theory as a drummer for the fact it's so visual. The black and white keys clearly show what sharps or flats you're playing when working through chords and scales. On a guitar however, you can transpose through different keys just by holding the same shapes on the neck. Knowing how to play the guitar is great for ear training, however it's still immensely valuable to be somewhat capable on the piano. Hope this helps (:

  • @jlamjustin9812
    @jlamjustin9812 3 роки тому

    zach : you need to grow up lol in every video he says that lol

  • @Tumi_Pheko
    @Tumi_Pheko 3 роки тому

    "Grow up" I'm DEAD!!!!

  • @R.Ackegan
    @R.Ackegan 3 роки тому

    I am grown up! Jk
    Thanks man randomly found you yesterday. Been thinking of going back to school for this kinda stuff.

  • @westonclark3388
    @westonclark3388 3 роки тому

    I’m gonna go buy a cat piano and then go attend a music theory class. No one can defeat my cat piano with their puny grand pianos.

  • @4chan425
    @4chan425 3 роки тому

    Your brother is a music theory geek

  • @vojtechnovotny5947
    @vojtechnovotny5947 3 роки тому

    Hey, what keyboard are you using please? Can't find it... Thanks!

  • @jakobl9711
    @jakobl9711 3 роки тому

    dude your like-to-dislike ratio is insaaaane

  • @nickcrameri6833
    @nickcrameri6833 3 роки тому +2

    Oi was it Tommy x

  • @johnmurray6906
    @johnmurray6906 3 роки тому

    self taught drummers: tf is a note?

  • @zachschmitt2855
    @zachschmitt2855 3 роки тому +2

    What keyboard are you using in the video?

    • @sulfll
      @sulfll 3 роки тому

      akai mpk mini

  • @ahchv
    @ahchv 3 роки тому

    What’s a good book to learn this stuff from???

  • @jofunin3680
    @jofunin3680 3 роки тому

    Music theory is good when learning early for me becuz you pain will always be forgotten until you remember the day you got smacked to brazil by parents because you didnt remember basic chord proggression

    • @alexzhupanov4242
      @alexzhupanov4242 3 роки тому

      AHh feel you on a spiritual level there. My parents completely obliterated me one time when I got 80% on the RCM music theory test, scariest time of my 9 yo life.

  • @RuShEd_AltF4
    @RuShEd_AltF4 3 роки тому

    "Music Theory is a tool, you put tools in the trunk of your car, not the passenger seat" - Victor Wooten ( godlike bassist)

  • @ericktheroman
    @ericktheroman 3 роки тому +1

    No kidding this is the first time I understand what the f is a 7th chord lol

  • @jonathanbanacky5955
    @jonathanbanacky5955 3 роки тому

    Whats a good keyboard to buy?

  • @mason8971
    @mason8971 3 роки тому +9

    How do I grow up

    • @joewhittle801
      @joewhittle801 3 роки тому +2

      By firstly embracing your inner child and loving life, then realizing your place in the natural order of things and that personal responsibility is the key to a meaningful life. If you decide you want a family, learn what your role would be as a parent and what keeps families thriving. But also don’t ever leave your inner child behind ❤️
      ....BUT, as it applies to the context of this video, ‘growing up’ just means making a choice to figure out this uncomfortable new thing if you decide you’re going to learn it LOL 😂

  • @il-r9954
    @il-r9954 2 роки тому

    I know IM late Buh this helped me

  • @Godzilar
    @Godzilar 3 роки тому

    What’s the piano your using in the video