You know Patrick Magee is a good actor when he is the scariest one in the room next to a once vicious sadist and a giant hulk of a man who can carry a man in his wheel chair with little effort
Yes, a once vicious sadist. Sure, he became metal on the inside with a kryptonite battery to kill Superman; convince the descendants of Loot & Plunder, Dr. Blight, and Verminous Skumm to kill a little girl; and nearly made Beast Boy catatonic with hypnosis; but he was cured alright!
Kubrick nails every scene. I just remembered the one-second shot of Alex's eye-view looking at Darth Vader's muscular arms, and feeling how scared Alex was.
But then he saw Darth Vader's forearms would check him even harder if he didn't drink it.... McDowell said that originally it was just going to be Alex and Frank, but that Kubrick realized it wouldn't make any sense because Alex could just get up and walk out, so he wrote in the part of Julian as "Mr. Universe/Charles Atlas" who'd rip Alex apart if he tried to leave- note how Julian is going up the stairs,, and when Alex gets up and says he has to to leave,.Julian stops immediately in his tracks ready to grab him.
It was Kubrick's idea, not the old man's for revenge, since he gave Alex the robe BEFORE he knew Alex was the one who did it; it was hanging on the door of the bathroom during the bath-scene. Before that scene, the old man just thought that Alex was a victim of the mind-control which the minister was using in order to gain power by being "tough on crime--" which he also did by hiring thugs like Alex's droogs as police to beat up and torture people who spoke against the minister. So when Alex showed up at his door after being beaten by police, the old man thought he was sent by Providence as a messenger to awaken the public to vote the minister out of office, rather than trade liberty for security. That's why he gave Alex his good robe; but Kubrick obviously threw it in as a bit of irony.
I can't even imagine how The Old Man, confined to a wheelchair, would even be able to access each level of his house without a hefty helper around in an age before Stair Lifts.
In my opinion this is the most scariest situation of being helpless and vulnerable for Alex. Not that I'm condoning what he did but he's literally trapped and alone, and he knows the walls are closing in on him second by second. Bad enough when u have these two playing mind games with him but when u involve two more people in your plot for revenge, makes it even more terrifying. Anyone who hasn't watched this movie, there's a few minutes where Frank goes back to being quiet and intensely and silently staring a hole into Alex later on in this scene, best kind of storytelling of revenge I've ever seen.
He raped this man's wife while singing, then she died later at the hospital of pnumonia/shock. He was made to watch. I would have done, far, FAR worse to Alex
He was very young and green in this, and he actually had the stones to ask Stanley Kubrick to limit the number of takes for this scene because “You’re not called “one-take Kubrick” are you?”
***** He also played the Black Knight from Monty Python's "Jabberwocky." (Prowse never got many lines; he had 4 in this movie, and none in later films). He got in a major pissing-contest with George Lucas over being the face of Darth Vader as well as the suit. He was also a competitive weightlifter-- when you see how he picks up alex at the door, it's clearly using perfect form for lifting a weight-- i.e. back up straight, then legs.
***** They could have put a mic in the helmet. Peter Mayhew read lines too, and they were clear- IN ENGLISH. Chewbacca's voice is all we hear, translated from English to Wookee. The point is that Vader had a voice that's as menacing as he looks, while Prowse's voice sounds like "be a dear and pass the sherry, love?"
Rooster Montgomery He's a bodybuilder, it's called POSING; that's why Lucas saw this film and chose him to make Darth Vader so menacing.... and why the three others who play Vader are such a joke in comparison, especially the spastic pimple-faced whiner.
The way that wine bottle slams on the table and makes Alex jump in an already tense, uncomfortable situation just adds grave implications to everything.
only Kubrick could have made McGee's over-the-top delivery anything other than silly. This is one of my all-time favourite scenes in any movie. The perfect blend of tension, comedy, and drama. Smells nice, too!
commentguy721 Alex deserved it; he had the gall to go to the same house where he raped and crippled the residents, be taken in and cared for, and then sing the same song he performed during the attack; that was to show that he hadn't really changed, he just got a V-chip.
@@RoosterMontgomery Despite his great strength Prowse knew it would be awkward, especially as carrying the weight at that height would make it difficult to breathe properly. He even told Kubrick in as many words "You're not really One-Take Kubrick are you?" which shocked the film crew as Kubrick was notoriously hard to work with
The funny thing is that the old man's name is "Frank Alexander," which seems to be a play on the name "Alex;" i.e. he's what Alex would have become if he was "frank," i.e.. uncorrupteed by being abused as a child. Meanwhile Alex's full name is Alex DeLarge, i.e. "Alexander the Great," in that he began dominating others in reaction to being dominated, and becomes a hero..
Okay, I haven't seen this movie in over 2 years, so I can't fully remember the ending, but I believe the moral of the story was that, no matter how hard you try, you can't condition people into being how you want them to be. It tool all sorts of abuse towards alex to snap out of his conditioning, being beaten up by his old droogs, public humiliation. The lesson is to not control people, because psychology adapts. I hope that puts it into perspective.
Probably my favorite scene with my favorite character. If I could play any character it would not be Alex but the crazy writer. The actor confided in MacDowell that he was not sure what Kubrick was trying to do and felt a bit ridiculous playing the character in such an absurdly exaggerated style, but Kubrick knew correctly what this film was meant to be: a dark satire , so there were really no natural prformances to be found. Everyone was over the top but I don't think it got silly or trite.
Its amazing how youtube videos from 12 or more years ago have a very bad picture but films like 50 years old have a way better picture quality them selves
This scene just shows how traumatised and vengeful Mr Alexander is from Alex's past attack because even after realising that it's him, he doesn't even hold back or pretend everything's fine to just trick Alex. It's the tip of the iceberg here as he makes Alex very uncomfortable and backs him into a very dangerous corner where he's almost literally helpless. Even by talking about his wife (they both know he's talking about Alex), holding his arm and also with the wine because his determination to give Alex more wine makes Alex rightly suspicious but because Alex knows he's trapped in that sticky situation, tries to act polite and innocent to try and wriggle himself out of it. It's so interesting how Kubrick victimised Alex following the treatment and villainised everybody else who stood up to him for his hideous crimes.
If you mentioned the two, it is fair to also mention the one who gave him a face, the late Sebastian Shaw (the three building a single character - that of Darth Vader)
So brilliant this scene and so very funny as i do movie scene qoutes alot and this is one of my very favorites to say etc. Wow so classic and the foul bitter old guy is 95% of this acting sequence. Love it and if the person who had uploaded this ( been years ago!!).. sees this recent 2021 comment BRAVO MY FRIEND!! never will this scene be boring or ever out dated. Kansas city is where i reside and thanks and good bye..
The fact that this author had access to knock-out drugs, had no problems involving his bodyguard and had some "friends" he called, tells me he was probably always a little shady.
I love eating my meal in a quiet restaurant and suddenly shouting, "Food ...ALL RIGHT?!!"
its not "Food ...ALL RIGHT?!!", its "FOOOOD!!... All right?!"
@@eliasmakin8810 😆😆😆
Try the Wine!!
@@mikekock927 Very refreshing, Sir! Very refreshing!
@@ingleringlet-snipps3rd449I'm please you appreciate good wine! Have another glass..
Id also feel uncomfortable with Hector Salamanca and Darth Vader next to me
That’s not hector although it looks like him
@@larryquicksave5765 He knows it's not Hector. He was making a joke. Mark Margolis was 31 when this movie came out.
Your profile pic is hilarious 👍👍👍
Gay darth vader on top of that
I am your father,ding ding ding ding....
TRYYYYY DA WINE!!!!!
Nothing to read into there. Seems like a normal way for people to talk.
VERY GOOD BRAND SAR !
You know Patrick Magee is a good actor when he is the scariest one in the room next to a once vicious sadist and a giant hulk of a man who can carry a man in his wheel chair with little effort
More like Darth Vader
Yes, a once vicious sadist. Sure, he became metal on the inside with a kryptonite battery to kill Superman; convince the descendants of Loot & Plunder, Dr. Blight, and Verminous Skumm to kill a little girl; and nearly made Beast Boy catatonic with hypnosis; but he was cured alright!
When you’re at your girlfriends house for dinner, but she has to go to the toilet so you’re stuck with her parents.
Hahahahaha!!!!!
Relatable
This has to be one of the most awkward scenes in movie history, and Kubric just fucking nailed the camerawork.
Kubrick nails every scene.
I just remembered the one-second shot of Alex's eye-view looking at Darth Vader's muscular arms, and feeling how scared Alex was.
FOOOOD...alright? LOL
+Ro man I know. LOL.
TRY THE WINE!
Darth Vader looks unhappy
You mean sad
@@massmuertos1377 he was in the suit
Ahhh
It is the sand
"I'm glad you appreciate fiiine wiiine.....Have another GLASSSZZZZZ!"
Lmao he was checking the wine so hard
But then he saw Darth Vader's forearms would check him even harder if he didn't drink it.... McDowell said that originally it was just going to be Alex and Frank, but that Kubrick realized it wouldn't make any sense because Alex could just get up and walk out, so he wrote in the part of Julian as "Mr. Universe/Charles Atlas" who'd rip Alex apart if he tried to leave- note how Julian is going up the stairs,, and when Alex gets up and says he has to to leave,.Julian stops immediately in his tracks ready to grab him.
Alex didnt' want the wine. then he saw Darth Vader's forearms and changed his mind.... he didn't want to end up like Captain Antilles.
WOW cant believe I never realized that the old man gives alex the same robe he wore when he was beaten and alex raped his wife!!!!
It was Kubrick's idea, not the old man's for revenge, since he gave Alex the robe BEFORE he knew Alex was the one who did it; it was hanging on the door of the bathroom during the bath-scene.
Before that scene, the old man just thought that Alex was a victim of the mind-control which the minister was using in order to gain power by being "tough on crime--" which he also did by hiring thugs like Alex's droogs as police to beat up and torture people who spoke against the minister.
So when Alex showed up at his door after being beaten by police, the old man thought he was sent by Providence as a messenger to awaken the public to vote the minister out of office, rather than trade liberty for security.
That's why he gave Alex his good robe; but Kubrick obviously threw it in as a bit of irony.
damn, I've never realized that!
I must say, it was a damn good meal.
food today is a lot better than it was back in your time
Lomticks of toast
Hello hello hello there!
I get hungry for spaghetti every time I watch this scene.
Of all the incredible things in the film, this impractical room with its odd wooden stairs like a disused sauna has stayed in my mind for 40 years.
I can't even imagine how The Old Man, confined to a wheelchair, would even be able to access each level of his house without a hefty helper around in an age before Stair Lifts.
Kubrick always had a thing for architecture
When singing in the bath gets you in trouble
In my opinion this is the most scariest situation of being helpless and vulnerable for Alex. Not that I'm condoning what he did but he's literally trapped and alone, and he knows the walls are closing in on him second by second. Bad enough when u have these two playing mind games with him but when u involve two more people in your plot for revenge, makes it even more terrifying. Anyone who hasn't watched this movie, there's a few minutes where Frank goes back to being quiet and intensely and silently staring a hole into Alex later on in this scene, best kind of storytelling of revenge I've ever seen.
Alex did deserve it though
He raped this man's wife while singing, then she died later at the hospital of pnumonia/shock. He was made to watch. I would have done, far, FAR worse to Alex
RIP Dave. 6 takes it took to carry Patrick down the stairs in a wheelchair. Man that looked strenuous.
Dave Prowse would've agreed with you as once the sixth take was filmed he was exhausted.
Probably looked more realistic towards the 6th take maybe
He was very young and green in this, and he actually had the stones to ask Stanley Kubrick to limit the number of takes for this scene because “You’re not called “one-take Kubrick” are you?”
The other guy looks like Austin Powers on steroids.
He doesn't flinch the entire scene.
*****
No. My health doesn't allow it.
***** He also played the Black Knight from Monty Python's "Jabberwocky." (Prowse never got many lines; he had 4 in this movie, and none in later films). He got in a major pissing-contest with George Lucas over being the face of Darth Vader as well as the suit.
He was also a competitive weightlifter-- when you see how he picks up alex at the door, it's clearly using perfect form for lifting a weight-- i.e. back up straight, then legs.
***** They could have put a mic in the helmet.
Peter Mayhew read lines too, and they were clear- IN ENGLISH. Chewbacca's voice is all we hear, translated from English to Wookee.
The point is that Vader had a voice that's as menacing as he looks, while Prowse's voice sounds like "be a dear and pass the sherry, love?"
Rooster Montgomery He's a bodybuilder, it's called POSING; that's why Lucas saw this film and chose him to make Darth Vader so menacing.... and why the three others who play Vader are such a joke in comparison, especially the spastic pimple-faced whiner.
Possibly one of the best revenge scenes in film, period.
Love the fucking GLARE Mcgee throws at Alex the entire scene. Also, Darth Vader is a beast for carrying that guy AND his wheelchair.
The way that wine bottle slams on the table and makes Alex jump in an already tense, uncomfortable situation just adds grave implications to everything.
7 people didn't want to try the wine.
FOOD!!!......ALRIGHT!??......IS IT!!??
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@@stairwaytoheaven8 😂
I always like that Alex clearly thinks the Wine is poisoned, but is too scared to come up with an excuse to not drink it without appearing Rude.
Love this scene! The old man was especially scary. Didn't realize his body guard was played by David Prowse.
Who knew Darth Vader invented the hipster?
Not really: a hipster today=how people normally dressed in 1971 (they just didn't do it ironically).
Samuel Barton
He was a Sith Lord before it was cool. You probably never heard of it. ;)
Samuel Barton Joe was the hipster.
MrJimmyTide Long before it was cool... in a galaxy far, far away.....
He played Darth Vader ( as in physically)
Revenge is sweet, what goes around comes around. Great film.
David Prowse....what a body...he was perfect for Darth Vader.
Jedinaut Yeah sure, 6 foot fucking 7 always seem to be kinda puny.
He was also Green Cross man.
@@letsdraw8062 lol
holy crap, David Prowse must have been really strong, carrying a man sitting on a wheelchair
I can never watch this scene properly because I end up wanting spaghetti
Just imagine how it tastes, cooked by a Brit... who is also Darth Vader.
@@SovereignStatesman same
You're a victim of the bolognaise.
How about wine? the ladies seem to like Julian too
I was just thinking that!
MY WIFE.... Used to do everything for me and leave me to my writing!
She was very badly raped, ya see?!
Rooster Montgomery By a gang of vicious young hoodlums!
In this house, the very room you're sitting in now!
@@majinboot8775 I was left a helpless cripple but for her the agony was too great
'Try the wife!'
'I already did, sir.'
Just love how the amount of spaghetti in the dish changes between scenes
only Kubrick could have made McGee's over-the-top delivery anything other than silly.
This is one of my all-time favourite scenes in any movie. The perfect blend of tension, comedy, and drama.
Smells nice, too!
You don’t have to be an body language expert to know how angry he his
I sure wouldn't want darth vader and uncle ringading staring at me while i eat
Tom Evans Hector from breaking bad
commentguy721 Alex deserved it; he had the gall to go to the same house where he raped and crippled the residents, be taken in and cared for, and then sing the same song he performed during the attack; that was to show that he hadn't really changed, he just got a V-chip.
This is the best laced drink scene
Holy smokes! That bodyguard is super duper strong!
David Prowse...weightlifting and bodybuilding champion and the body for Darth vader
Only the British could make spaghetti look so unappetizing
TRRYYYY THEEE WIIIIINE!!! Best line ever
my GF haaaattes it when I yell that out🗣🗣🍕🍻
definetly the best scene of the movie!
6 takes of David Prowse carrying him and his wheelchair holy crap.
Not trying to downplay the effort but I'm sure a Mr. Universe has to lift far more than a man of approximately 200 lbs in a wheelchair.
I find it impressive. He makes it seem effortless and going down the stairs.
@@RoosterMontgomery Despite his great strength Prowse knew it would be awkward, especially as carrying the weight at that height would make it difficult to breathe properly.
He even told Kubrick in as many words "You're not really One-Take Kubrick are you?" which shocked the film crew as Kubrick was notoriously hard to work with
It wasn't so much the wheelchair carrying that was hard as it was making it look effortless even after six takes.
Awkward scene but genius at the same time
7 people thought that the FOOOOOOD was NOT ALRIGHT!!!!
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The funny thing is that the old man's name is "Frank Alexander," which seems to be a play on the name "Alex;" i.e. he's what Alex would have become if he was "frank," i.e.. uncorrupteed by being abused as a child. Meanwhile Alex's full name is Alex DeLarge, i.e. "Alexander the Great," in that he began dominating others in reaction to being dominated, and becomes a hero..
kubrick had all kinds of subtle things in his movies.
wait...So Alex was a victim of abuse? Which part of the movie or book that prove it?
@@espresso5512 The only thing that even remotely implies it in the film is when Deltoid grabs Alex's crotch.
@@espresso5512 no such a thing.
He also quotes Hitchcock
Great scene. This is why I started having wine with pasta.
Pasta, meat and wine, what a way to dine
3:33 When you have thanksgiving dinner with your grandpa and he tells you his childhood stories 😂😂😂😂
This is what happens if I go to my friend’s house with the parents there.
I never thought I'd live to see the day Darth Vader carried a Tory down some steps in order to entrap and harm a man who wasn't even his son...
Patrick Magee performance was terribly underrated. He is spectacular in this film
"They want to torture you...er, HELP you!"
When you have dinner with just your father in law and her bodybuilding brother
Okay, I haven't seen this movie in over 2 years, so I can't fully remember the ending, but I believe the moral of the story was that, no matter how hard you try, you can't condition people into being how you want them to be. It tool all sorts of abuse towards alex to snap out of his conditioning, being beaten up by his old droogs, public humiliation. The lesson is to not control people, because psychology adapts. I hope that puts it into perspective.
Probably my favorite scene with my favorite character. If I could play any character it would not be Alex but the crazy writer. The actor confided in MacDowell that he was not sure what Kubrick was trying to do and felt a bit ridiculous playing the character in such an absurdly exaggerated style, but Kubrick knew correctly what this film was meant to be: a dark satire , so there were really no natural prformances to be found. Everyone was over the top but I don't think it got silly or trite.
that guy seemed, SO much more sane in the book! XD this is funny
Its amazing how youtube videos from 12 or more years ago have a very bad picture but films like 50 years old have a way better picture quality them selves
seconds after hearing him say try the wine while watching the film,i googled "try the wine" and this came up...haha..i love it
Christmas dinner with grandpa
Hector Salamanca is the Hispanic version of this guy. XD
when you have family over.
That takes an awful lot of strength to pick someone up in their wheelchair. And prowse is just carrying like he’s a baby
O&A brought me here.
TRY THE WINE.
This scene just shows how traumatised and vengeful Mr Alexander is from Alex's past attack because even after realising that it's him, he doesn't even hold back or pretend everything's fine to just trick Alex. It's the tip of the iceberg here as he makes Alex very uncomfortable and backs him into a very dangerous corner where he's almost literally helpless. Even by talking about his wife (they both know he's talking about Alex), holding his arm and also with the wine because his determination to give Alex more wine makes Alex rightly suspicious but because Alex knows he's trapped in that sticky situation, tries to act polite and innocent to try and wriggle himself out of it. It's so interesting how Kubrick victimised Alex following the treatment and villainised everybody else who stood up to him for his hideous crimes.
Gotta love how as the wine is poured, it's actually wine color. As Alex drinks, it then becomes.... HAWAIIAN PUNCH! 😂
clock work old man
"Have another glauuzzzz"🍻🍻👊🤘🌲🍄
...and the legendary james earl jones...deep commandive voice....im thinkin..conan James!!!
If you mentioned the two, it is fair to also mention the one who gave him a face, the late Sebastian Shaw (the three building a single character - that of Darth Vader)
priceless acting, love ACO
alex: some friends:/
mr alexander: yes they want to help you
alex: help me sir :DDDDDDDD
GOOD EVENING
Did they get that wine from Ted's Drugged Wine Emporium?
Thuddy Waters Good evening! Feel free to check out Teds wheelchair and handicapped accessories emporium
GRRRR
He stinks and I don't like him.
6 people tried the wine.
6 people don't appreciate good wine!
For years now, i've had "TRYYYY THE WIIIIIIIIINE" as my alert noise for text messages.
I love this movie
I just burst out laughing when he says, "Have another glass."
Jam Lym FOOD ALRIGHT?!?!?
POOR, POOR GIRL!!
My God, It's GENIUS!
FOOD... ALRIGHT??!!!!!?????
god i wish i had old relatives that were half as cool as this guy.
agreed this scene is a great one
So brilliant this scene and so very funny as i do movie scene qoutes alot and this is one of my very favorites to say etc. Wow so classic and the foul bitter old guy is 95% of this acting sequence. Love it and if the person who had uploaded this ( been years ago!!).. sees this recent 2021 comment BRAVO MY FRIEND!! never will this scene be boring or ever out dated. Kansas city is where i reside and thanks and good bye..
That spaghetti looks delicious.
FOOD..alright?....wasn't expecting that when I first saw this masterpiece of cinema...
I like it when the bottle hits the table with so much noise
His expression at 1:47 is classic.
R.I.P
nothing quite as intimidating as that bottle clacking down on the glass table.
Patrick Magee hams it up like an old luvee thespian. Remember that he played the army surgeon in Zulu: " Damn you Chard, damn all you butchers ! "
My favorite scene in the entire movie. So ironic.
3:02 "At least you appreciate LWIAY" first time i ever heard this scene😂
Ah, i've never actually seen that before. Thanks!
1:14 my favorite line in the movie
The fact that this author had access to knock-out drugs, had no problems involving his bodyguard and had some "friends" he called, tells me he was probably always a little shady.
best part when hes singing in bath
Who else is here because of Opie and Anthony?
Linger longer
Lol the bodybuilder is David Praus. That's the guy that wore the Darth Vader suit.
It's funny that the robe Alex is wearing now is the one the writer was wearing when he beat him up.
After the movie was released, they did make a new edition of the book in the 1980's that contained the last chapter, too.
Every Kubrick movie has a bathroom scene
Oh wow. The muscular guy played Darth Vader.
He didn't do the voice, he just wore the suit and made the hand gestures.
Wow, Darth Vader is built.
When the people are looking at you like this you don't must to trust them
I never understood why he didn't leave from there