Fantastic video Andy! thanks so much for such a thorough install, can't wait to see your thoughts on it. if any viewers have any questions about our systems reply with them underneath and we'll answer them :)
Thanks very much! I‘m most looking forward to the transfer into the ‚new‘ bike, where i can really take advantage of the full potential of the system! 😃
@Scottoiler : I'm using the xsystem now (previously vacumn and esystem). Why did you make it so the oil output tube goes up inside it? I have leaks now. If it was just a spigot on the bottom then I could have just retrimmed the tube. Not sure there's anything I can do now. 😞
Hi. With the unit permanently powered up how do you turn it on and off? Manually? In Andy’s case, lifting the seat at the start finish of each ride? Thanks.
@mjpt57 The Esystem and Xsystem go into a sleep mode but they are sensing for the vibrations of a running engine to come to life. The sleeping drain is tiny. If you wish to go totally off the pop the inline fuse. You could on course put an inline switch in but it's not needed
NORWAY,NORWAY,NORWAY 🇳🇴 when will we have the pleasure of your cinematography masterpiece... I'm not impatient or anything😆 Happy Christmas Andy, thanks for all entertainment throughout the year👍
Happy Christmas and a merry new year Patrick. I’m toiling at the editing machine as we speak! There might even be a first installment ready before 2023!!
Been running scottoilers 30+ years on my main bikes, give me a chain drive and a Scottoiler any day over a heavy, hp sapping, expensive shaft drive any day 👍👍
I live quite close to the Scottoiler HQ in Scotland; took my then KTM 1190 over to them for fitment and to allow them to document fitting it to the KTM. This was around eight years ago, it did not have the one way check valve then. It works OK, you can use automatic transmission fluid in the system instead of the Scottoil which I believe is just coloured ATF. Gone to the dark side now.. shaft drive, don't think I will come back.😈 Have a lovely Christmas.
That’s a cool story! Part of the product! I can see how once you’ve gone shaft, you’ll never look aft! (Bad, i know!). In Norway, Ian was forced to have a chain again and he hated it!!
The Tutoro is definitely far easier to install. The next fitting of this, on the KTM will be slightly more involved as I’ll be putting the control panel on the bars. Still good not to have to chop into the vacuum gubbins though.
Depends on what you want and how religious you are. I personally have gotten vastly increased chain life and greatly reduced maintenance faff from having chain Oilers. But for some who are more about messing with the chain and religiously clean and lube, sure the oiler might seem overkill. Horses for courses and each to their own! 👍🏻
Give me the Scottoiler every time. They clean and lubricate your chain while you enjoy the ride. Desert one day, thunderstorms the next, the Scottoiler copes with it all.
Whilst watching it all I could think of was that it's coming off again soon 😁 Oh and I also wondered when you'd realise that the breather tube is not where you fill it with oil. Relieved to see you removed the rubber filler at the end. It would have been like changing the oil on a car through the dipstick hole 😁👍
Haha! True, but not until after 5000km in Norway! It’s sitting on the shelf now, waiting for the elves to fit to the KTM! You can pop the breather bit out and the nozzle on the xm end of the bottle filler pipe fits perfectly into the rubber bit. It’s really not that bad as the oil all pours in and leaves the pipe clear for air to pass. After all, it is the exact same hole the the oil is going in to. If you had the right sized nozzle, you actually could change the oil through the dipstick hole! Might take a while though! 😜
My pleasure Alexander. Happy to help. TBH they just different. Both work well, but where the tutoro wins on simplicity, the Scottoiler wins on flexibility and control.
Hi Andy. Great vid. Interested to see if this makes it onto your ktm. I have an e system and don't really want to mount the display on the 1290s bars so it may end up under the seat once I've done the canister delete.
You definitely earned your stripes with the Scott oiler installs. 🤣🤣 Between the fafary and the criticism I gotta tell you I probably would have given up🤣🤣
They’re not for everyone. I had nightmares with my first, but thankfully they’ve gotten better and I’ve gotten better at fitting them! 😂 Go with what works mate. Most importantly, ride the thing! Merry Christmas to you too and a happy new year!!
Hi Andy, how happy were you with the Scott Oiler after the Norway trip? Still recommend it? I just got a new bike and thinking about putting something like this on my bike.
Very happy. So much so that I’ve just transferred it on to my KTM. I had a few teething problems with the dual injector, so I’ve left that out. But the system works great.
In case I missed it, and possibly stupid question, but how does it decide when to pump the oil? It takes a perm not switched live, presumably isn't when the bike is "on", so is it vibration based or something else?
Hi very good video I have just got one you menchend about the conections to the battery does this impact on the battery, can you conect it to the bikes loom,and if so do you have to reset the screen when you turn on the egnishen?
Thanks! As far as I’m aware, the Scottoiler has a backup battery so it remembers its settings, even without power from the bike. So you should be able to mount anywhere/anyhow. Just remember that the warranty is potentially voided if you cut the O-rings off 😱
@@AndyManCam Hi thank you for that. I can't see how the warrinty can be cancelled its the use of the item hasn't changed just the way its connected I think if I did have a problem I think I might fight it in any case its not as if its a fortune and what's the chances of it breaking ?
6:59 you got that completely around your neck mate . On cars or bikes you would connect the pos first just incase u hit grond its not yet a problem . Ground is the last to be conmected and the first to be removed . The short is usually caused by a 12v spanner hitting chassis but is 0v is not connected then it wont short the way u said it and explained was wrong and dangerous .
As an expensive piece of kit I presume it's now on the KTM. Perhaps you should've just bought a GS instead? 🤔 😉. I see TLR was more than somewhat smitten with the GS on his trip in Spain with TeapotOne. 😱
Not yet, but it must definitely will be. I’m still doing it old school at the moment and already i hate it! 😜 I’m just not taken by the GS. I’d love a shaft drive, but nothing with a shaft, except for maybe the new Moto Guzzi, grabs my attention right now. I interpreted TLR‘s experience as him being very uncomfortable with the lack of feel at the front and a bit scared to push on because of it.
Hey, thanks Teodor. I’m 100kg in gear and already had the preload front and back wound up as high as it would go. I replaced the rear shock for 500€ with a stronger spring, but the front was still on the limit. So it’ll work, but you’ll be wanting to at least change out the springs front and rear pretty soon.
If it's anything like my 650R, they've gone with softer springs and instead rely heavily on compression damping to prevent bottom.out under hard acceleration and braking. I assume this has upsides in cornering (being easier to compress the front in cornering, for instance), but the downside is that all this compression damping sends every last bump through your body. I for one would prefer a more balanced setup, even if it means I need to work harder to get the cornering performance.
I'm interested in a chain oiler for my work commute Versys 650. Which out of the tutoro or this e3.1 would you recommend. I think this scotoiler one looks easier to use with the digital display.
The Scottoiler certainly is easier with the display and the automatically regulated flow based on temperature. But then the Tutoro is far simpler and half the price. So it’s ease of use with extra cost and more involved install, or simple but with less control and less installation location options! 🤷♀️
A most excellent and instructional watch. Be interested to see how it compares with tutoro which seems a lot simpler. But results.. Safe, happy travels 👍
Thanks TT. It’s really a case of horses for courses. Very different tech levels for different needs. The temp regulated flow and digital flow rate setting is pretty cool. I’ll really get the best out of it when it’s fitted ‚properly‘ to the KTM with controls on the dash. 👍🏻
@@AndyManCam I watch with interest. Thanks for a good years viewing. I'm not a huge patreon man but I've signed up to yours as a thank you. It's one of a very small number I consider essential viewing. Safe, happy travels 👍
@@AndyManCam Of course this is ("only") my idea about it : YES ! Because unless you own a Goldwing or another ship like a K1600 of some type, space is always limited on a bike. Not to mention this oiler is otherwise "properly over-engineered" 🤐
Yeah i see that. I guess it’s pros and cons with every system. This Scottoiler reservoir is big, but you can lay it down almost flat and you get more miles per fill up. The TUTORO reservoir is smaller, but it has to be upright and filled more often. The TUTORO is simpler, but doesn’t adjust flow even the temperature changes. The Scottoiler is technically advanced, but for some too complicated. You just need to find the system that works best for your personal situation and machine. I personally am looking forward to the increased oil capacity and advanced control of this system, when i fit it to the KTM. It’s the perfect setup for a mile munching tourer machine. But perhaps too much for a small city commuter.
I actually disagree. But it depends on what you personally want. For me, especially on the new KTM, i want to know that the oiler is working, change settings without having to stop and know that there is oil in the reservoir. With this system i can do all that, plus i don’t need to chop into the vacuum system and the oil flow is regulated based upon the temperature. So for me, all of those high level features are exactly what i want. But if you prefer a simpler system, then there are simpler systems out there to do the job. Just because it doesn’t fit your personal needs, doesn’t mean it’s a bad product. It’s just possibly not the one for you.
Fantastic video Andy! thanks so much for such a thorough install, can't wait to see your thoughts on it. if any viewers have any questions about our systems reply with them underneath and we'll answer them :)
Thanks very much! I‘m most looking forward to the transfer into the ‚new‘ bike, where i can really take advantage of the full potential of the system! 😃
@Scottoiler : I'm using the xsystem now (previously vacumn and esystem). Why did you make it so the oil output tube goes up inside it? I have leaks now. If it was just a spigot on the bottom then I could have just retrimmed the tube. Not sure there's anything I can do now. 😞
Hi. With the unit permanently powered up how do you turn it on and off? Manually? In Andy’s case, lifting the seat at the start finish of each ride?
Thanks.
@mjpt57 The Esystem and Xsystem go into a sleep mode but they are sensing for the vibrations of a running engine to come to life. The sleeping drain is tiny. If you wish to go totally off the pop the inline fuse. You could on course put an inline switch in but it's not needed
Will it fit to new Kawasaki Versys 650 ? BTW great video
It was really nice of Andy to install an oiler on the bike for the new owner. ;-)
Haha! Fear not, the bike may be gone but the oiler remains! The KTM will be getting a late Christmas present when it warms up a bit!
Ktm sold. All the Honda needed was a oiler.
Haha! Not quite! The Honda needed a full respray!! 😂
NORWAY,NORWAY,NORWAY 🇳🇴 when will we have the pleasure of your cinematography masterpiece... I'm not impatient or anything😆 Happy Christmas Andy, thanks for all entertainment throughout the year👍
Happy Christmas and a merry new year Patrick. I’m toiling at the editing machine as we speak! There might even be a first installment ready before 2023!!
Superb review as always, ol'boy. And I enjoyed watching the oil permeate that pipe more than I should have.
Thank you kindly old bean. It was oddly therapeutic wasn’t it. Like watching an hourglass, only with smooth motorcycling consequences!
Been running scottoilers 30+ years on my main bikes, give me a chain drive and a Scottoiler any day over a heavy, hp sapping, expensive shaft drive any day 👍👍
I Trend to agree! I was completely over chains until i got my first Scottoiler on the Versys and suddenly chains were a more bearable evil!
I live quite close to the Scottoiler HQ in Scotland; took my then KTM 1190 over to them for fitment and to allow them to document fitting it to the KTM. This was around eight years ago, it did not have the one way check valve then. It works OK, you can use automatic transmission fluid in the system instead of the Scottoil which I believe is just coloured ATF. Gone to the dark side now.. shaft drive, don't think I will come back.😈
Have a lovely Christmas.
That’s a cool story! Part of the product! I can see how once you’ve gone shaft, you’ll never look aft! (Bad, i know!). In Norway, Ian was forced to have a chain again and he hated it!!
Under the seat is where mine is too. Best place for it.
I totally agree. Nice and tidy!
Makes the Tutoro seem fairly easy to install to be fair.... Although they stopped making the dual feed nozzle for some reason
The Tutoro is definitely far easier to install. The next fitting of this, on the KTM will be slightly more involved as I’ll be putting the control panel on the bars. Still good not to have to chop into the vacuum gubbins though.
Great video. Loved all the quips. Very entertaining and informative.
Is it easier just oiling the chain manually 😂
A solution for a problem that doesn't exist.
Depends on what you want and how religious you are. I personally have gotten vastly increased chain life and greatly reduced maintenance faff from having chain Oilers. But for some who are more about messing with the chain and religiously clean and lube, sure the oiler might seem overkill. Horses for courses and each to their own! 👍🏻
Give me the Scottoiler every time. They clean and lubricate your chain while you enjoy the ride. Desert one day, thunderstorms the next, the Scottoiler copes with it all.
Love the dry humor on pipes
Now i wanna see all these video's again.. but then on the new KTM!
They’ll be along soon enough! 😉
Looking forward to see your Norway tour Andy. Happy Christmas🎅
I’m looking forward to getting it out there! Happy new year!
Whilst watching it all I could think of was that it's coming off again soon 😁
Oh and I also wondered when you'd realise that the breather tube is not where you fill it with oil. Relieved to see you removed the rubber filler at the end. It would have been like changing the oil on a car through the dipstick hole 😁👍
Haha! True, but not until after 5000km in Norway! It’s sitting on the shelf now, waiting for the elves to fit to the KTM!
You can pop the breather bit out and the nozzle on the xm end of the bottle filler pipe fits perfectly into the rubber bit. It’s really not that bad as the oil all pours in and leaves the pipe clear for air to pass. After all, it is the exact same hole the the oil is going in to. If you had the right sized nozzle, you actually could change the oil through the dipstick hole! Might take a while though! 😜
Watching the progress of oil down the tube is almost as exciting as watching paint dry 😂
Yet it's still important and I bet you still watched it!
@@AndyManCam 🤣
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An excellent, helpful and informative vid for someone like me. Thanks.
A year on...
Was it better than the Turoro or worse?
What would you prefer.
My pleasure Alexander. Happy to help. TBH they just different. Both work well, but where the tutoro wins on simplicity, the Scottoiler wins on flexibility and control.
waiting for your valve adjustment and swingarm removal videos.
I’m afraid it’s not going to be happening for this bike as it’s been shipped away in a van.
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Hi Andy. Great vid. Interested to see if this makes it onto your ktm. I have an e system and don't really want to mount the display on the 1290s bars so it may end up under the seat once I've done the canister delete.
It definitely will be finding its way on to the KTM! Haven’t decided how and where yet. 🤔
Merry Christmas Andy ok 👌👍
Merry Christmas Chema and Prospero Año y felicidad!
I use this. Perfect product!
I too am a big fan! I wouldn’t ride without an oiler!
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Fitted mine under the rear seat but in the other side. I’ve the v system. But…
It’s a very tidy solution. Everything out of the way! Needs to be done on such a good looking bike!
You definitely earned your stripes with the Scott oiler installs. 🤣🤣 Between the fafary and the criticism I gotta tell you I probably would have given up🤣🤣
I know right! 🤣 Luckily there’s another one to come, when I fit it to the KTM 🤦🏻♂️
Hi Andy , what happened to the Tutoro oiler you had on the Honda?
That is currently sitting on the shelf, awaiting either a second bike or a journey into the ebay atmosphere!
Never got on with one. merry Xmas cocker 🦃🐓
They’re not for everyone. I had nightmares with my first, but thankfully they’ve gotten better and I’ve gotten better at fitting them! 😂 Go with what works mate. Most importantly, ride the thing! Merry Christmas to you too and a happy new year!!
Hi Andy with the controller under the seat was it working ok ?
Looking forward to the removal video and fitting to the KTM 😀😀😀
It’s only a matter of time! 😜
Hi Andy, how happy were you with the Scott Oiler after the Norway trip? Still recommend it? I just got a new bike and thinking about putting something like this on my bike.
Very happy. So much so that I’ve just transferred it on to my KTM. I had a few teething problems with the dual injector, so I’ve left that out. But the system works great.
In case I missed it, and possibly stupid question, but how does it decide when to pump the oil? It takes a perm not switched live, presumably isn't when the bike is "on", so is it vibration based or something else?
The control unit has accelerometers in it, that recognise when the bike is running and moving. This then tells the pump to pump.
Hi very good video I have just got one you menchend about the conections to the battery does this impact on the battery, can you conect it to the bikes loom,and if so do you have to reset the screen when you turn on the egnishen?
Thanks! As far as I’m aware, the Scottoiler has a backup battery so it remembers its settings, even without power from the bike. So you should be able to mount anywhere/anyhow. Just remember that the warranty is potentially voided if you cut the O-rings off 😱
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Hi thank you for that.
I can't see how the warrinty can be cancelled its the use of the item hasn't changed just the way its connected I think if I did have a problem I think I might fight it in any case its not as if its a fortune and what's the chances of it breaking ?
@donroutledge9115 You’re absolutely right Don. I think they’d be hard pressed to deny a warranty claim in the small courts!
6:59 you got that completely around your neck mate .
On cars or bikes you would connect the pos first just incase u hit grond its not yet a problem . Ground is the last to be conmected and the first to be removed .
The short is usually caused by a 12v spanner hitting chassis but is 0v is not connected then it wont short the way u said it and explained was wrong and dangerous .
You’re absolutely right there. Not sure what i had been sniffing that day.
Great funny video. Enjoyed that
Many thanks! Watch out for the orange version soon! 😜
As an expensive piece of kit I presume it's now on the KTM. Perhaps you should've just bought a GS instead? 🤔 😉. I see TLR was more than somewhat smitten with the GS on his trip in Spain with TeapotOne. 😱
Not yet, but it must definitely will be. I’m still doing it old school at the moment and already i hate it! 😜 I’m just not taken by the GS. I’d love a shaft drive, but nothing with a shaft, except for maybe the new Moto Guzzi, grabs my attention right now. I interpreted TLR‘s experience as him being very uncomfortable with the lack of feel at the front and a bit scared to push on because of it.
Hey Love your videos! Do you think a CB1000R is good for a heavy rider 110-120 kg 190cm suspension wise ?
Hey, thanks Teodor. I’m 100kg in gear and already had the preload front and back wound up as high as it would go. I replaced the rear shock for 500€ with a stronger spring, but the front was still on the limit. So it’ll work, but you’ll be wanting to at least change out the springs front and rear pretty soon.
If it's anything like my 650R, they've gone with softer springs and instead rely heavily on compression damping to prevent bottom.out under hard acceleration and braking.
I assume this has upsides in cornering (being easier to compress the front in cornering, for instance), but the downside is that all this compression damping sends every last bump through your body. I for one would prefer a more balanced setup, even if it means I need to work harder to get the cornering performance.
Totally agree. First get the springs right before you start messing with damping.
Send me the tutoro 🤪I need one for my fz1 n😁
Down side of mouthing dual injector there, no adjustment.
That is true. It has to be fixed firmly and I’m finding that it’s perhaps more susceptible to blockage.
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I'm interested in a chain oiler for my work commute Versys 650. Which out of the tutoro or this e3.1 would you recommend. I think this scotoiler one looks easier to use with the digital display.
The Scottoiler certainly is easier with the display and the automatically regulated flow based on temperature. But then the Tutoro is far simpler and half the price. So it’s ease of use with extra cost and more involved install, or simple but with less control and less installation location options! 🤷♀️
Brrrrr.... Back to Honda or an old video??
An old video. I’m playing catch up! The Honda is 100% gone and all Honda appearances from here on are old Footage 🍊 🎃
A most excellent and instructional watch.
Be interested to see how it compares with tutoro which seems a lot simpler.
But results..
Safe, happy travels 👍
Thanks TT. It’s really a case of horses for courses. Very different tech levels for different needs. The temp regulated flow and digital flow rate setting is pretty cool. I’ll really get the best out of it when it’s fitted ‚properly‘ to the KTM with controls on the dash. 👍🏻
@@AndyManCam I watch with interest.
Thanks for a good years viewing.
I'm not a huge patreon man but I've signed up to yours as a thank you. It's one of a very small number I consider essential viewing.
Safe, happy travels 👍
My pleasure! Thanks for watching for another year! 😘 🎄
Not even 4 minutes into the video clearly shows that this Scottoiler reservoir is WAY longer than the Tutoro one...
Correct. It most certainly is. Is that a bad thing?
@@AndyManCam Of course this is ("only") my idea about it : YES ! Because unless you own a Goldwing or another ship like a K1600 of some type, space is always limited on a bike. Not to mention this oiler is otherwise "properly over-engineered" 🤐
Yeah i see that. I guess it’s pros and cons with every system. This Scottoiler reservoir is big, but you can lay it down almost flat and you get more miles per fill up. The TUTORO reservoir is smaller, but it has to be upright and filled more often. The TUTORO is simpler, but doesn’t adjust flow even the temperature changes. The Scottoiler is technically advanced, but for some too complicated. You just need to find the system that works best for your personal situation and machine. I personally am looking forward to the increased oil capacity and advanced control of this system, when i fit it to the KTM. It’s the perfect setup for a mile munching tourer machine. But perhaps too much for a small city commuter.
Way over thought Andy
I actually disagree. But it depends on what you personally want. For me, especially on the new KTM, i want to know that the oiler is working, change settings without having to stop and know that there is oil in the reservoir. With this system i can do all that, plus i don’t need to chop into the vacuum system and the oil flow is regulated based upon the temperature. So for me, all of those high level features are exactly what i want. But if you prefer a simpler system, then there are simpler systems out there to do the job. Just because it doesn’t fit your personal needs, doesn’t mean it’s a bad product. It’s just possibly not the one for you.
tutoro freck off =))
Now now! 😂 The Tutoro was very effective and provided a good service. But even Scottoiler came a knocking with high tech Upgrades, i couldn’t resist!
And then you sell the bike
3 months and 6000 km later. And the Scottoiler will be going on the new bike.